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Jesus Christ Is Not God by gohf: 10:03am On Jul 28
Jesus Christ is Lord!.... but he is not God, indeed he is king and divine but he isn't God.

The basis of true faith is to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and not that Jesus Christ is God.

Matt.16.15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Matt.16.16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matt.16.17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Jesus himself said, John 14:28, "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I."

Demons did not call Jesus God, even though they are lying spirits whose accounts we shouldn't believe Luke.8.28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"


Then what about an angel, Gabriel who had visited Daniel who then visited Mary and said to her,
Luke.1.31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.
Luke.1.32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.


There is the Lord Jesus and the Lord God... Ps.110.1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."

Some even say that the name of Jesus which is higher than every other name is higher than the name of the Father. Not even consider that a son bears his father's name.

Let me use an easier translation so we don't speak too many words, what did Paul say
1Cor.15.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Cor.15.28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

This was Paul who Phil.2.9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,... Jesus did not give himself a name, it was God the Father that gave him a name.

When John writes about testing every spirit, prophecy to verify genuine prophets from false prophets he wrote
1John.4.2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
1John.4.3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.


The question now is what can you call a person or a spirit that says Jesus is God, for God is spirit revealed by Jesus himself but we are to believe that Jesus came in the flesh and is currently resurrected in his body at the right hand of the Father.

The devil is an author of confusion that is why those who are confused claim to be spiritual and that things of the spirit cannot be understood even when John, Jesus, Isaiah affirmed that the spirit gives understanding. How can Jesus be at the right-hand of himself.

You who believe such are the reason why the truth of God is held in contempt as the world views you as being to gullible to believe every nonsense you hear. And the true believers see you as a child tossed to and fro by strange doctrines born out of the imaginations of men.


I who have met the real Jesus testify to you that Jesus and the Father are not the same, yes they are one because they are united as a husband and wife are one in unity but not the same in personality or person.

Jesus is the word of God, and he is divine, the very manifestation of God's word full of grace and truth but he is not God the speaker. He himself testifies of God the Father, as the one who sent him, as the one who testifies of him the son, as the one who does the works.

If Jesus is God he would reveal himself as God and not have to humble himself to God who is above and above all, revealing God the father. Jesus is divine because he is like God, having the likeness of God but the in the image of man to bear our sins.

This post is to reveal who Jesus is, the real Jesus sent by the Father, that those who listen and obey him will be saved. This is the spirit of prophecy, the testimony of Jesus. Blessed is he who understands and sees him.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by itzadorable333: 10:29am On Jul 28
gohf:
Jesus Christ is Lord!.... but he is not God, indeed he is king and divine but he isn't God.

The basis of true faith is to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and not that Jesus Christ is God.

Matt.16.15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Matt.16.16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matt.16.17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Jesus himself said, John 14:28, "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I."

Demons did not call Jesus God, even though they are lying spirits whose accounts we shouldn't believe Luke.8.28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"


Then what about an angel, Gabriel who had visited Daniel who then visited Mary and said to her,
Luke.1.31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.
Luke.1.32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.


There is the Lord Jesus and the Lord God... Ps.110.1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."

Some even say that the name of Jesus which is higher than every other name is higher than the name of the Father. Not even consider that a son bears his father's name.

Let me use an easier translation so we don't speak too many words, what did Paul say
1Cor.15.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Cor.15.28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

This was Paul who Phil.2.9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,... Jesus did not give himself a name, it was God the Father that gave him a name.

When John writes about testing every spirit, prophecy to verify genuine prophets from false prophets he wrote
1John.4.2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
1John.4.3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.


The question now is what can you call a person or a spirit that says Jesus is God, for God is spirit revealed by Jesus himself but we are to believe that Jesus came in the flesh and is currently resurrected in his body at the right hand of the Father.

The devil is an author of confusion that is why those who are confused claim to be spiritual and that things of the spirit cannot be understood even when John, Jesus, Isaiah affirmed that the spirit gives understanding. How can Jesus be at the right-hand of himself.

You who believe such are the reason why the truth of God is held in contempt as the world views you as being to gullible to believe every nonsense you hear. And the true believers see you as a child tossed to and fro by strange doctrines born out of the imaginations of men.


I who have met the real Jesus testify to you that Jesus and the Father are not the same, yes they are one because they are united as a husband and wife are one in unity but not the same in personality or person.

Jesus is the word of God, and he is divine, the very manifestation of God's word full of grace and truth but he is not God the speaker. He himself testifies of God the Father, as the one who sent him, as the one who testifies of him the son, as the one who does the works.

If Jesus is God he would reveal himself as God and not have to humble himself to God who is above and above all, revealing God the father. Jesus is divine because he is like God, having the likeness of God but the in the image of man to bear our sins.

This post is to reveal who Jesus is, the real Jesus sent by the Father, that those who listen and obey him will be saved. This is the spirit of prophecy, the testimony of Jesus. Blessed is he who understands and sees him.
This is Truth. YAHSHUA is the Only Begotten Son of THE LORD, who is The Ancient of Days.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by StillDtruth: 2:39pm On Jul 28
gohf:
Jesus Christ is Lord!.... but he is not God, indeed he is king and divine but he isn't God.

The basis of true faith is to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and not that Jesus Christ is God....

If you admit that Jesus is Lord, then these passages show you lack understanding!

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD Deuteronomy 6:5

The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. Zephaniah 3:17

For I the Lord thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Isaiah 41:13

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by gohf: 3:44pm On Jul 28
StillDtruth:


If you admit that Jesus is Lord, then these passages show you lack understanding!

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD Deuteronomy 6:5

The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. Zephaniah 3:17

For I the Lord thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Isaiah 41:13



then you who has understanding, take every Lord ever mentioned as your God as well

Meanwhile it's actually Deutronomy 6:4
Hear Israel, Jehovah our God, Jehovah is one.

You have understanding yet do you know what echad means

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 4:28pm On Jul 28
gohf:
then you who has understanding, take every Lord ever mentioned as your God as well

Meanwhile it's actually Deutronomy 6:4
Hear Israel, Jehovah our God, Jehovah is one.

You have understanding yet do you know what echad means

I know you will say it is a compound 1

My friend, it is not. There is only one God, creator of all. Jesus is a creation of the Roman empire...
He was created to deceive you...don't fall for it..

Isaiah 44:6/7
6. So said the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer the Lord of Hosts, "I am first and I am last, and besides Me there is no god

7. And who will call [that he is] like Me and will tell it and arrange it for Me, since My placing the ancient people, and the signs and those that will come, let them tell for themselves.

Isaiah 45:5
am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God: I will strengthen you although you have not known Me

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by StillDtruth: 7:16pm On Jul 28
gohf:

Meanwhile it's actually Deutronomy 6:4
Hear Israel, Jehovah our God, Jehovah is one.

Kjv said "The Lord" not Jehovah.

So you are jw like Mad Max. i did not know. No wonder the errors and the twisted lies.

gohf:

You have understanding yet do you know what echad means

Did the bible say "echad"? No

Even at that your topic is not talking about "unity" but about The Lord, being "our God", so, you are talking Off Point!

gohf:
then you who has understanding, take every Lord ever mentioned as your God as well

Now i understand why you lie and twist and talk rubbish. Clearly, you are a jw.

See how you have changed it to "every lord" because you cannot counter the bible passages i have just dropped!

Hmm you are playing with hellfire.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Steep(m): 7:46pm On Jul 28
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus is God in respect to his nature but the Son of God in respect to his relationship and with the Father.

Thomas called Jesus God.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.
Paul called him God.

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

The scripture is clear, Jesus is the creator, and ruler over all creation, all creation was created for him and he exist before all creation making him uncreated and have absolute power over all things.

Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 8:10pm On Jul 28
StillDtruth:


Kjv said "The Lord" not Jehovah.

So you are jw like Mad Max. i did not know. No wonder the errors and the twisted lies.


Deuteronomy 6:4

American Standard Version
Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Hear, Israel: LORD JEHOVAH our God, LORD JEHOVAH is one"



Oga, STOP LYING & CURE YOUR delusion.


StillDtruth:


Did the bible say "echad"? No

Even at that your topic is not talking about "unity" but about The Lord, being "our God", so, you are talking Off Point!

Now i understand why you lie and twist and talk rubbish. Clearly, you are a jw.

See how you have changed it to "every lord" because you cannot counter the bible passages i have just dropped!

Hmm you are playing with hellfire.

Illiterate churchgoer exposing his delusion.

grin grin grin grin

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 8:31pm On Jul 28
Steep:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus is God in respect to his nature but the Son of God in respect to his relationship and with the Father.
In respect of his nature, Jesus is a god @ John 1:1.
John & Jesus agreed that the God their heavenly Father is the only true God. John 17:3.
Every other being is a god, John 10:34-36. Jesus said so.



Steep:

Thomas called Jesus God.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.
Your Trinitarian Bibles said that statement is an exclamation.

My God !!! Oh my God !! This is not references to God Almighty.
Oga no deceive yourself . You no know Greek pass them.

grin

Steep:

Paul called him God.

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

The scripture is clear, Jesus is the creator, and ruler over all creation, all creation was created for him and he exist before all creation making him uncreated and have absolute power over all things.

Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

1 Corinthians 11:3,"The God is the head of Christ", said Paul. The same evidence of Paul in 1 Corinthians 8:6.

Every first born in your Bible is a creature Colossians 1:15 has issues with installing Jesus Christ where his God did not place him.
That's the evidence that your Trinitarian mentors doctored that verse in Titus the same manner they doctored 1 John 5:7 & 1 Timothy 3:16.

Paul was a devout Judaism devotee before his conversion. Read his first sermon in Acts 9:20.
grin

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 8:35pm On Jul 28
gohf:
Jesus Christ is Lord!.... but he is not God, indeed he is king and divine but he isn't God.

The basis of true faith is to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and not that Jesus Christ is God.

Matt.16.15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Matt.16.16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matt.16.17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Jesus himself said, John 14:28, "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I."

Demons did not call Jesus God, even though they are lying spirits whose accounts we shouldn't believe Luke.8.28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"


Then what about an angel, Gabriel who had visited Daniel who then visited Mary and said to her,
Luke.1.31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.
Luke.1.32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.


There is the Lord Jesus and the Lord God... Ps.110.1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."

Some even say that the name of Jesus which is higher than every other name is higher than the name of the Father. Not even consider that a son bears his father's name.

Let me use an easier translation so we don't speak too many words, what did Paul say
1Cor.15.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Cor.15.28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

This was Paul who Phil.2.9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,... Jesus did not give himself a name, it was God the Father that gave him a name.

When John writes about testing every spirit, prophecy to verify genuine prophets from false prophets he wrote
1John.4.2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
1John.4.3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.


The question now is what can you call a person or a spirit that says Jesus is God, for God is spirit revealed by Jesus himself but we are to believe that Jesus came in the flesh and is currently resurrected in his body at the right hand of the Father.

The devil is an author of confusion that is why those who are confused claim to be spiritual and that things of the spirit cannot be understood even when John, Jesus, Isaiah affirmed that the spirit gives understanding. How can Jesus be at the right-hand of himself.

You who believe such are the reason why the truth of God is held in contempt as the world views you as being to gullible to believe every nonsense you hear. And the true believers see you as a child tossed to and fro by strange doctrines born out of the imaginations of men.


I who have met the real Jesus testify to you that Jesus and the Father are not the same, yes they are one because they are united as a husband and wife are one in unity but not the same in personality or person.

Jesus is the word of God, and he is divine, the very manifestation of God's word full of grace and truth but he is not God the speaker. He himself testifies of God the Father, as the one who sent him, as the one who testifies of him the son, as the one who does the works.

If Jesus is God he would reveal himself as God and not have to humble himself to God who is above and above all, revealing God the father. Jesus is divine because he is like God, having the likeness of God but the in the image of man to bear our sins.

This post is to reveal who Jesus is, the real Jesus sent by the Father, that those who listen and obey him will be saved. This is the spirit of prophecy, the testimony of Jesus. Blessed is he who understands and sees him.

The folks arguing against the Bible truth, they prefer their 3 deities invented at Nicene rather than the only true God worshipped by Jesus Christ.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47: 12:36am On Jul 29
Janosky:
The folks arguing against the Bible truth, they prefer their 3 deities invented at Nicene rather than the only true God worshipped by Jesus Christ.

lost fraud jw janosky

you forever blaspheme and mock the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible
calling Them 3 deities which is 3 gods, and you say that the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit
were invented:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:54am On Jul 29
Simply quoted Jesus said his father is our father and his God is our God! John 20:17

Definitely he is not our God but our brother in pure worship! Matthew 12:46-50 smiley

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47: 9:13am On Jul 29
MaxInDHouse:
Simply quoted Jesus said his father is our father and his God is our God! John 20:17
Definitely he is not our God but our brother in pure worship! Matthew 12:46-50 smiley

lost false jw mad max

Jesus is definately not a brother to liars, the paranoid, blasphemers, etc
you do so lie:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Steep(m): 9:27am On Jul 29
sonmvayina:


I know you will say it is a compound 1

My friend, it is not. There is only one God, creator of all. Jesus is a creation of the Roman empire...
He was created to deceive you...don't fall for it..

Isaiah 44:6/7
6. So said the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer the Lord of Hosts, "I am first and I am last, and besides Me there is no god

7. And who will call [that he is] like Me and will tell it and arrange it for Me, since My placing the ancient people, and the signs and those that will come, let them tell for themselves.

Isaiah 45:5
am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God: I will strengthen you although you have not known Me
Echad is a compound one.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Expanse2020(m): 9:35am On Jul 29
We all know Jesus is not God...
Only the white brainwasher will said he is a God

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 10:51am On Jul 29
Steep:
Echad is a compound one.

Lol..

Who do you believe, Paul/Mathew /John or the creator of heaven and earth?

Let me know.
As for me, I believe my creator 10000%
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by StillDtruth: 1:40pm On Jul 29
Janosky:

Deuteronomy 6:4

American Standard Version
Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Hear, Israel: LORD JEHOVAH our God, LORD JEHOVAH is one"


Oga, STOP LYING & CURE YOUR delusion.


Illiterate churchgoer exposing his delusion.

grin grin grin grin

See the Maddest Jw in the world.

I said "kjv"

But madman is saying American and Aramaic bible. 😆😆😆 Chai jws are mad people just like muslims and atheists.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 1:49pm On Jul 29
StillDtruth:


See the Maddest Jw in the world.

I said "kjv"

But madman is saying American and Aramaic bible. 😆😆😆 Chai jws are mad people just like muslims and atheists.
Are the American and Aramaic bible false bibles?
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by StillDtruth: 1:54pm On Jul 29
Michael547:

Are the American and Aramaic bible false bibles?

Sure! Since it is the book which the Liars called jw like and are using to sell Lies and "their Lies".
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 1:55pm On Jul 29
StillDtruth:


Sure! Since it is the book which the Liars called jw like and are using to sell Lies and "their Lies".

Na wa oo....where is your evidence that they are false
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by StillDtruth: 2:10pm On Jul 29
Michael547:

Na wa oo....where is your evidence that they are false

O boy. Please grow first so that you do not ask questions whose answer you are supposed to know.

Here, take and read in the interim.
https://www.nairaland.com/8088472/manipulation-bible-verses-jehovahs-witness#129892534

https://www.nairaland.com/4559378/doctrinal-lies-jehovah-witness-religion#68441731
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:12pm On Jul 29
Michael547:

Na wa oo....where is your evidence that they are false

You're responding to the worst, unmannered fellow on Nairaland! smiley

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 2:13pm On Jul 29
StillDtruth:


O boy. Please grow first so that you do not ask questions whose answer you are supposed to know.

Here, take and read in the interim.
https://www.nairaland.com/8088472/manipulation-bible-verses-jehovahs-witness#129892534

https://www.nairaland.com/4559378/doctrinal-lies-jehovah-witness-religion#68441731
Are these threads talking about the American standard version and the Aramaic bible versions?
I'm not asking you about what the JWs believe in.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by StillDtruth: 2:23pm On Jul 29
Michael547:

Are these threads talking about the American standard version and the Aramaic bible versions?
I'm not asking you about what the JWs believe in.

Go and read and see!

But for me, when a liar uses a particular book as his manual for selling his lies, it stands to good reason that the book he is using is the book of lies.

And both he and his book are Liars!
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 2:36pm On Jul 29
StillDtruth:


Go and read and see!

But for me, when a liar uses a particular book as his manual for selling his lies, it stands to good reason that the book he is using is the book of lies.

And both he and his book are Liars!
Oga I have seen those threads and it has nothing to do with those bible versions.
Please show me the evidence for saying that those bible versions are wrong.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by StillDtruth: 2:43pm On Jul 29
Michael547:

Oga I have seen those threads and it has nothing to do with those bible versions.
Please show me the evidence for saying that those bible versions are wrong.

Did you not see those bibles in his presentation?

I have told you. for me, when a liar uses a particular book as his manual for selling his lies, it stands to reason that the book he is using is the book of lies.

And both he and his book are Liars.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 2:49pm On Jul 29
StillDtruth:


Did you not see those bibles in his presentation?

I have told you. for me, when a liar uses a particular book as his manual for selling his lies, it stands to reason that the book he is using is the book of lies.

And both he and his book are Liars.


Show me where in the thread it was Stated that America standard version and Aramaic bible in plain English are false bibles.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Steep(m): 3:28pm On Jul 29
sonmvayina:


Lol..

Who do you believe, Paul/Mathew /John or the creator of heaven and earth?

Let me know.
As for me, I believe my creator 10000%
you don't know your creator. I thought you want to prove that echad is not a compound unity.
Jesus is Almighty God.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Steep(m): 3:35pm On Jul 29
Janosky:

In respect of his nature, Jesus is a god @ John 1:1.
John & Jesus agreed that the God their heavenly Father is the only true God. John 17:3.
Every other being is a god, John 10:34-36. Jesus said so.

There is only one God, there is other God.
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.



Your Trinitarian Bibles said that statement is an exclamation.

My God !!! Oh my God !! This is not references to God Almighty.
Oga no deceive yourself . You no know Greek pass them.

grin



1 Corinthians 11:3,"The God is the head of Christ", said Paul. The same evidence of Paul in 1 Corinthians 8:6.

Every first born in your Bible is a creature Colossians 1:15 has issues with installing Jesus Christ where his God did not place him.
That's the evidence that your Trinitarian mentors doctored that verse in Titus the same manner they doctored 1 John 5:7 & 1 Timothy 3:16.

Paul was a devout Judaism devotee before his conversion. Read his first sermon in Acts 9:20.
grin
you keep proving that you guys are false witness.

Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Jehovah true witness can never say there is "a god besides Jehovah".

Jesus is Almighty God the evidence are all over scriptures.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by StillDtruth: 3:38pm On Jul 29
Michael547:

Show me where in the thread it was Stated that America standard version and Aramaic bible in plain English are false bibles.

I have told you .for me, when a liar uses a particular book as his manual for selling his lies, it stands to reason that the book he is using is the book of lies.
And both he and his book are Liars.

But my little look into the book, Ephesians 6:5 is falls because, "slave" is evil whereas servant is lawful, which is why the kjv said "servant" and not slave which only an evil person will say which is why devils and atheists use these versions when they are blaspheming God and say "God said". Satan bibles i call them!
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Steep(m): 3:41pm On Jul 29
gohf:
Jesus Christ is Lord!.... but he is not God, indeed he is king and divine but he isn't God.

The basis of true faith is to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and not that Jesus Christ is God.

Matt.16.15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Matt.16.16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matt.16.17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Jesus himself said, John 14:28, "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I."

Demons did not call Jesus God, even though they are lying spirits whose accounts we shouldn't believe Luke.8.28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"


Then what about an angel, Gabriel who had visited Daniel who then visited Mary and said to her,
Luke.1.31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.
Luke.1.32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.


There is the Lord Jesus and the Lord God... Ps.110.1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."

Some even say that the name of Jesus which is higher than every other name is higher than the name of the Father. Not even consider that a son bears his father's name.

Let me use an easier translation so we don't speak too many words, what did Paul say
1Cor.15.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Cor.15.28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

This was Paul who Phil.2.9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,... Jesus did not give himself a name, it was God the Father that gave him a name.

When John writes about testing every spirit, prophecy to verify genuine prophets from false prophets he wrote
1John.4.2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
1John.4.3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.


The question now is what can you call a person or a spirit that says Jesus is God, for God is spirit revealed by Jesus himself but we are to believe that Jesus came in the flesh and is currently resurrected in his body at the right hand of the Father.

The devil is an author of confusion that is why those who are confused claim to be spiritual and that things of the spirit cannot be understood even when John, Jesus, Isaiah affirmed that the spirit gives understanding. How can Jesus be at the right-hand of himself.

You who believe such are the reason why the truth of God is held in contempt as the world views you as being to gullible to believe every nonsense you hear. And the true believers see you as a child tossed to and fro by strange doctrines born out of the imaginations of men.


I who have met the real Jesus testify to you that Jesus and the Father are not the same, yes they are one because they are united as a husband and wife are one in unity but not the same in personality or person.

Jesus is the word of God, and he is divine, the very manifestation of God's word full of grace and truth but he is not God the speaker. He himself testifies of God the Father, as the one who sent him, as the one who testifies of him the son, as the one who does the works.

If Jesus is God he would reveal himself as God and not have to humble himself to God who is above and above all, revealing God the father. Jesus is divine because he is like God, having the likeness of God but the in the image of man to bear our sins.

This post is to reveal who Jesus is, the real Jesus sent by the Father, that those who listen and obey him will be saved. This is the spirit of prophecy, the testimony of Jesus. Blessed is he who understands and sees him.
This is what you get when, emphasis is placed on emotional experiences as against accurate doctrine and theology. When incompetent pastors are ordained who lack knowledge in basic Christian doctrine. Smh
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 3:41pm On Jul 29
StillDtruth:


I have told you .for me, when a liar uses a particular book as his manual for selling his lies, it stands to reason that the book he is using is the book of lies.
And both he and his book are Liars.

But my little look into the book, Ephesians 6:5 is falls because, "slave" is evil whereas servant is lawful, which is why the kjv said "servant" and not slave which only an evil person will say which is why devils and atheists use these versions when they are blaspheming God and say "God said". Satan bibles i call them!


Oga I am not asking you about the JWs.....kindly prove to me why the American standard version and the Aramaic version In plain English is false. Thank you

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