Michael547:

Are the American and Aramaic bible false bibles?

They are just translations and you can't use FALSE for translations rather you ask if they are ACCURATE OR CORRUPT some textual contents.

Do you agree with American and Aramaic Bible?

Emusan:


They are just translations and you can't use FALSE for translations rather you ask if they are ACCURATE OR CORRUPT some textual contents.

Do you agree with American and Aramaic Bible?

So which translation is neither corrupt nor inaccurate?

Steep:
you don't know your creator. I thought you want to prove that echad is not a compound unity.
Jesus is Almighty God.

Eya...your God died, could not withstand 3 nails...so sad..

My God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent....he is not a Jewish man that qas nailed to a cross..My God is the eternal creator. He is one.

gohf:
If Jesus is God he would reveal himself as God and not have to humble himself to God who is above and above all, revealing God the father.

No! He doesn't have to reveal Himself as God because that's not the reason he came to Earth.

Jesus is divine because he is like God, having the likeness of God but the in the image of man to bear our sins.

Which means while on Earth, He has TWO NATURES: One as divine and One as Human, right?

This post is to reveal who Jesus is

Your post has no authority to do that , God's Word already revealed who Jesus Christ is.

Jesus is God Almighty
Jesus is the Creator of ALL THINGS
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega
Jesus is The First and The Last
Jesus is the Savior of the world.

the real Jesus sent by the Father

The real Jesus sent by Father you can't fully know Him just as you can't fully know the Father. You can only know Him as Scripture described Him just exactly like the Father, to think you know Him in REAL SENSE makes you to be God Himself Jesus as Jesus says “My Father has entrusted everything to me. No one truly knows the Son except the Father, and no one truly knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.” Matt 11:27

So, are you now the Father?

Michael547:

So which translation is neither corrupt nor inaccurate?

Answer my question first before asking yours!

Emusan:


Answer my question first before asking yours!

I never obligated you to answer my question...why must I answer yours?

Michael547:

I never obligated you to answer my question...why must I answer yours?

But the person you quoted, you want answer from him, why?

Is that how you were taught?

Since, you replied me, then you should've answered my question before you ask yours.

Emusan:


But the person you quoted, you want answer from him, why?

Is that how you were taught?

I never forced him to answer my questions.

Michael547:

I never forced him to answer my questions.

Neither do I

So, you don't need to ask me question when you no you can't answer my question in the first place!

Emusan:


Neither do I

So, you don't need to ask me question when you no you can't answer my question in the first place!

You answered a question which I never directed to you...you could have just ignored.

Michael547:

You answered a question which I never directed to you

Yeah! And there no law prohibited that on Nairaland.
If there's any law let me know and I'll apologize

But don't forget just as you quoted that person who didn't make his post about you.

you could have just ignored.

Why didn't you ignore the person you quoted first?

Do you want to be setting rules on Public forum?

Emusan:


Yeah! And there no law prohibited that on Nairaland.
If there's any law let me know and I'll apologize

But don't forget just as you quoted that person who didn't make his post about you.



Why didn't you ignore the person you quoted first?

Do you want to be setting rules on Public forum?

I am not setting a rule on you....I said I won't answer your question. Is that a crime?

Michael547:

I am not setting a rule on you....I said I won't answer your question. Is that a crime?

He won't stop following JWs up and down yet his own church nobody knows!

MaxInDHouse:


He won't stop following JWs up and down yet his own church nobody knows!

Lol...nawa oo😂

Michael547:

I am not setting a rule on you.... I said I won't answer your question. Is that a crime?

Show me where you said the @bold.

If you've said you won't answer my question you should have said so immediately you quote my post, but you quoting my post without addressing my post but only to throw your own question this shows you want something from me.

Why are you always afraid of answering question but you want people to answer your own questions?

Emusan:


Show me where you said the @bold.

If you've said you won't answer my question you should have said so immediately you quote my post, but you quoting my post without addressing my post but only to throw your own question this shows you want something from me.

Why are you always afraid of answering question but you want people to answer your own questions?

Oga leave me abeg...go rest.

Michael547:

Oga leave me abeg...go rest.

I didn't hold you nah

So you lied that you told me you won't answer my question.

Na wa ooo

I blame Constantine for initiating the council of Nicea. The council that created the character of Jesus. He would have just told everyone in the empire to become Adherents of Mithraism. Which he was till he was on his death bed..No body would have known this man .

The presbyters had to choose between worship of serapis (Christianity) and worship of mithras (Mithraism). They voted to go with Christianity. Right there they formulated the new religion they now called Catholicism. Any body who did not believe the new religion was anathema( as good as dead).
Serapis became Jesus at the council of Ephasius....and they have been killing anybody who does not agree with them.Thdy have sort to exterminate the jews, but as God promised a little remnants always remains...

sonmvayina:


Eya...your God died, could not withstand 3 nails...so sad..

My God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent....he is not a Jewish man that qas nailed to a cross..My God is the eternal creator. He is one.

my God exist, he has historical record of him on earth but your god is only an imaginary god, even bat man is more real than your god.

Michael547:

Oga I am not asking you about the JWs.....kindly prove to me why the American standard version and the Aramaic version In plain English is false. Thank you

I have given you Ephesians 6:5 in proof if you do not like it, stab ypurself!

Emusan:
..
Why are you always afraid of answering question but you want people to answer your own questions?

Exactly!
He can ask question forever, even stooping.to stupid ones too!

But now that you put him on the stand, see dodging. People dey o!

Emusan:


I didn't hold you nah

So you lied that you told me you won't answer my question.

Na wa ooo

😆😆😆😆😆

StillDtruth:


I have given you Ephesians 6:5 in proof if you do not like it, stab ypurself!

Are you saying that Ephesians 6:5 proves that the American standard version and the Aramaic bible in plain English are false bibles?

StillDtruth:


Exactly!
He can ask question forever, even stooping.to stupid ones too!

But now that you put him on the stand, see dodging. People dey o!

He knows by answering question he'll expose himself.

when he asked you if American and Aramaic are false (not that he himself take those translations as authentic like NWT) he wanted to be clever by half but immediately I asked him if he agreed with both. He saw where I was going because if he says he agreed with them, he knew very well that the same translations go against his doctrines in many places.


That is the reason he deployed deflection tactics and begin to lie!

Steep:
my God exist, he has historical him on earth but your god is only an imaginary god, even bat man is more real that your god.

The universal eternal spirit..

Not a creation of the Roman empire. Definitely not a man.

But the spirit behind creation.

gohf:
Jesus Christ is Lord!.... but he is not God, indeed he is king and divine but he isn't God.

The basis of true faith is to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and not that Jesus Christ is God.

Matt.16.15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Matt.16.16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matt.16.17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Jesus himself said, John 14:28, "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I."

Demons did not call Jesus God, even though they are lying spirits whose accounts we shouldn't believe Luke.8.28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"


Then what about an angel, Gabriel who had visited Daniel who then visited Mary and said to her,
Luke.1.31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.
Luke.1.32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.


There is the Lord Jesus and the Lord God... Ps.110.1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."

Some even say that the name of Jesus which is higher than every other name is higher than the name of the Father. Not even consider that a son bears his father's name.

Let me use an easier translation so we don't speak too many words, what did Paul say
1Cor.15.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Cor.15.28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

This was Paul who Phil.2.9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,... Jesus did not give himself a name, it was God the Father that gave him a name.

When John writes about testing every spirit, prophecy to verify genuine prophets from false prophets he wrote
1John.4.2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
1John.4.3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.


The question now is what can you call a person or a spirit that says Jesus is God, for God is spirit revealed by Jesus himself but we are to believe that Jesus came in the flesh and is currently resurrected in his body at the right hand of the Father.

The devil is an author of confusion that is why those who are confused claim to be spiritual and that things of the spirit cannot be understood even when John, Jesus, Isaiah affirmed that the spirit gives understanding. How can Jesus be at the right-hand of himself.

You who believe such are the reason why the truth of God is held in contempt as the world views you as being to gullible to believe every nonsense you hear. And the true believers see you as a child tossed to and fro by strange doctrines born out of the imaginations of men.


I who have met the real Jesus testify to you that Jesus and the Father are not the same, yes they are one because they are united as a husband and wife are one in unity but not the same in personality or person.

Jesus is the word of God, and he is divine, the very manifestation of God's word full of grace and truth but he is not God the speaker. He himself testifies of God the Father, as the one who sent him, as the one who testifies of him the son, as the one who does the works.

If Jesus is God he would reveal himself as God and not have to humble himself to God who is above and above all, revealing God the father. Jesus is divine because he is like God, having the likeness of God but the in the image of man to bear our sins.

This post is to reveal who Jesus is, the real Jesus sent by the Father, that those who listen and obey him will be saved. This is the spirit of prophecy, the testimony of Jesus. Blessed is he who understands and sees him.

Sincerely I do not get what exactly your point is about the identity of Christ Jesus. While not come out with a concise and unambiguous explanation of identity of Christ Jesus.

Emusan:


He knows by answering question he'll expose himself.

when he asked you if American and Aramaic are false (not that he himself take those translations as authentic like NWT) he wanted to be clever by half but immediately I asked him if he agreed with both. He saw where I was going because if he says he agreed with them, he knew very well that the same translations go against his doctrines in many places.

That is the reason he deployed deflection tactics and begin to lie!

Exactly!

I sometimes feel he is atheist but when you said "his doctrine" I have to ask what persuasion does he subscribe to?

Michael547:

Are you saying that Ephesians 6:5 proves that the American standard version and the Aramaic bible in plain English are false bibles?

Judge for yourself.

sonmvayina:


The universal eternal spirit..

Not a creation of the Roman empire. Definitely not a man.

But the spirit behind creation.

No evidence that your god is real all you have is your delusion, any body can claim anything what separation facts from fiction is evidence. your god is an illusion,just a figment of your imagination.

My God Jesus became a man and lived among humans leaving behind historical records of him, his place of birth is known, the family he came through is known, he did works no human could ever do, his teachings are with us and no human philosophy or logic is close to the excellency of his teachings, he defeated death and ascended to heaven.

But your god only exist in your brain nobody with working faculty will take you serious.

StillDtruth:


Judge for yourself.

Oga below is a screenshot of the original greek word that is translated as 'slave' or 'servant' in some translations of Ephesians 6:5. Your so-called false American standard version and Amaraic bible in plain English even uses 'servant'.

So where did you get the idea that translating the greek word 'douloi' as 'slave' is evil as used in Ephesians 6:5?
And where is the evidence that the American standard version and Aramaic bible in plain English are false bibles?

StillDtruth:


Exactly!

I sometimes feel he is atheist but when you said "his doctrine" I have to ask what persuasion does he subscribe to?

Maybe he is Jws-Atheist then!

johnw47:


lost fraud jw janosky

you forever blaspheme and mock the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible
calling Them 3 deities which is 3 gods, and you say that the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit
were invented:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

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