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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:36pm On Jul 31
seankafor:
In my hometown now , ipob and unknown gunmen have spoiled our imo State and South East finish sad

Killings, attacks and reprisal attacks everywhere sad

You have come with lies again. Okpa has repeatedly confirmed that there is no war in ba sing se

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:45pm On Jul 31
.......the Ofili matter is getting clearer.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by akwesenana: 2:08pm On Jul 31
liveLongNprospa:
grin
Damn. I can't recognize my ex-governor.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 2:15pm On Jul 31
liveLongNprospa:
grin

This man has the worst sense of awareness amongst Nigerian politicians, I mean, it is bad!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:16pm On Jul 31
nihilistjnr:
This is the time where Peter Obi would be organising rallies and building his support base of he was really serious

This is going to be another pointless round of protests, that may lead some unfortunate acts of looting and violence.

The protest is pointless because even if Nigeria wasnt setup to fail from it's inception - which it was, Nigeria is also fully the victim of state capture.

A protest for better governance- yes, but a protest to whom? When has a thief ever agreed to stop stealing your shït because you asked nicely? Or not nicely sef.

The best chance (and it's a very minute one) that Nigerians have of achieving some form of change to the status quote, is the possibleemergence of an anti-establishment figure capitalising on the frustration of Nigerians to build his/her forces for a credible run at next election.

I personally don't believe Obi is such a person, but if he's half the guy obedient claim he is, then I'd expect to see him at the very least making plays to hijack these elections to make very specific pitches to the people. Why not issue a very detailed manifesto? Maybe even go as far as announcing a shadow cabinet with ministers to shadow all current ministries now, using publicly available figures and policy documents to announce to the people how they would do things better instead of Obi's usual quoting of gas-based statistics.

The atmosphere is ripe for true opposition politics to be played if there are players willing to play the game.

Instead, we're likely going to see more cruise, more vibes, and the births of a few more twatter shitfluencers.

Mehn abandon all hope, all ye who enter this useless country.

Apart from your very first and then the very last sentence, I agree with the rest of what you've said.

I shared every bit of concern Kenneth voiced out. Obi's inability to organise his own party alone, coupled with his weakness in the aftermath of the election and his laizer fair attitude towards this protest have made me rule him out as an effective leader.

He reminds me of Jonathan in soo many ways, a fairly good and principled man but weak leader of men.
Why things look very bleak in my opinion is the fact that obidients (Nigerians disenchanted and disillusioned with the governance of Nigeria) will find it extremely difficult to detach from Obi himself.

Obidients really need a rugged fighter to take up their mantle. Obi has fallen short.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:19pm On Jul 31
Kenneth Okonkwo said my mind.

I basically lost hope in Nigerian politics the moment I realised Obi was a very ineffectual leader. His ineffectiveness in the face of the election rigging, the internal squabble in the party, the blatant corruption in LP leadership and his absurd silence in the face of it all tells you that he's not brave enough to rise up to challenges.

Obidients basically handpicked the man to lead them and maybe we couldn't see that he wasn't ready for that role.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 2:24pm On Jul 31
GloriousGbola:


Unfortunately Akpabio is actually and definitely stupid enough to say something like this.

He did. The video is out there.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:24pm On Jul 31
The protest is a wonderful idea. One that should have happened long since, but the lack of succinct messaging concerns me.

The number one win you score as a protester is an effective label of your protest.
If you say "bad governance",, you have to try and be more specific.
Is it corruption? Is it failure of justice? is it failed economy?. Governance is too broad a stroke for protests. Make exact demands.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CAPdan21(m): 2:25pm On Jul 31
Donjazzy must be hydra....e get many heads cheesy grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 2:26pm On Jul 31
donjazzet:
The protest is a wonderful idea. One that should have happened long since, but the lack of succinct messaging concerns me.

The number win you score as a protester is an effective label of your protest.
If you say "bad governance",, you have to try and be more specific.
Is it corruption? Is it failure of justice? is it failed economy?. Governance is too broad a stroke for protests. Make exact demands.

You are right.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 2:26pm On Jul 31
Our Athletics federation continues to disgrace us every Olympics

Last Olympics they didn't complete the mandatory drugs tests, this time they are failing to register athletes

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 2:28pm On Jul 31
Don j really think that nihilist is in support of Obi.

You want Obi to come out against the government and probably say something that will fuel the protest? lol

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 2:30pm On Jul 31
OasisX:
.......the Ofili matter is getting clearer.

Explain in layman terms please
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:36pm On Jul 31
donjazzet:
Kenneth Okonkwo said my mind.

I basically lost hope in Nigerian politics the moment I realised Obi was a very ineffectual leader. His ineffectiveness in the face of the election rigging, the internal squabble in the party, the blatant corruption in LP leadership and his absurd silence in the face of it all tells you that he's not brave enough to rise up to challenges.

Obidients basically handpicked the man to lead them and maybe we couldn't see that he wasn't ready for that role.

😐😐😐😐😐

Peter obi was a mediocre governor of an underperforming Civil service state.

His political experience began and ended in anambra and in attaching himself to what he thought was the winning party. P p

YOU and several others are the ones who tried to rewrite the man's score sheet of Cs and Ds and his record of going with the flow.

You are only saying otherwise because he is not fulfilling your desires.

We all witnessed end sars and it's aftermath.

No one is going to allow themselves to be culpable for incitement and rabble rousing.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:37pm On Jul 31
Emaprince:
Don j really think that nihilist is in support of Obi.

You want Obi to come out against the government and probably say something that will fuel the protest? lol

No I don't think nihilist supports Obi hence my disagreement with him calling Obi a tribalist.

But I agree with this part of his posts.


A protest for better governance- yes, but a protest to whom? When has a thief ever agreed to stop stealing your shït because you asked nicely? Or not nicely sef.

The best chance that Nigerians have of achieving some form of change to the status quote, is the possible emergence of an anti-establishment figure capitalising on the frustration of Nigerians to build his/her forces for a credible run at next election.

I personally don't believe Obi is that person, but if he's half the guy obedient claim he is, then I'd expect to see him at the very least making plays to hijack these elections to make very specific pitches to the people. Why not issue a very detailed manifesto? Maybe even go as far as announcing a shadow cabinet with ministers to shadow all current ministries now, using publicly available figures and policy documents to announce to the people how they would do things better

The point is that Obi has failed all obidients with his actions or more precisely INACTIONS in mounting a good opposition to this evil government.
Every opposition needs a figure head and that figure head determines the success of your revolution.

Myself and millions believed in Obi and to say he has let us down massively is an understatement.
We came out and voted. YOU WON! But the elections were stolen from you and you decided to play the game by their rules rather than being BRAVE enough to lead a total shutdown of the country. You showed weakness and was beaten. I'm disappointed by his ineffectual leadership.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:37pm On Jul 31
Ibime:
Our Athletics federation continues to disgrace us every Olympics

Last Olympics they didn't complete the mandatory drugs tests, this time they are failing to register athletes

It's disgusting.

I used to be a fan of playing for your home country, but that is now shiiit.

Ofili for just run for UK.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 2:38pm On Jul 31
Roland17:


This man has the worst sense of awareness amongst Nigerian politicians, I mean, it is bad!
He's never shown to be intelligent at all disstroy come and explain to us how you rate this man

https://www.nairaland.com/8170839/let-us-here-eating-akpabio
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:39pm On Jul 31
Obi shutting down the country is effectual Leadership?

grin grin grin

It's okay.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:40pm On Jul 31
GloriousGbola:


😐😐😐😐😐

Peter obi was a mediocre governor of an underperforming Civil service state.

YOU and several others are the ones who tried to rewrite the man's score sheet of Cs and Ds

You are only saying otherwise because he is not fulfilling your desires.

We all witnessed end sars and it's aftermath.
No one is going to allow themselves to be culpable for incitement and rabble rousing.

We had no choice because the obidients (Non-partisan Nigerians who seek a total political revolution in the country), needed a figurehead to lead that movement and Obi was the very best of the bunch.

My point right now is that the obidients need to detach from Obi now seeing his ineffectiveness in organising his own movement and party OR Obi sits up and STARTS acting as a leader who millions of Nigerians have hinged their hopes upon.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:41pm On Jul 31
CAPdan21:
Donjazzy must be hydra....e get many heads cheesy grin

I don't understand the statement. Elucidate.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 2:44pm On Jul 31
Ibime:


Explain in layman terms please

National Olympic Committee omitted her name and didn't tell her or her coach.

The gist is they wanted to conserve her energy.
She's one of our best runners and the 100m is what she has been practicing for the last few years as it is the main event for sprinters especially with what you gain.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 2:44pm On Jul 31
donjazzet:


We had no choice because the obidients (Non-partisan Nigerians who seek a total political revolution in the country), needed a figure to lead that movement and Obi was the very best of the bunch.

My point right now is that the obidients need to detach from Obi now seeing his ineffectiveness in organising his own party OR Obi sits up and STARTS acting as a leader whoo millions of Nigerians have put their hope on.

Lmaoooooo.. Wait.. Are you saying Obi was a mediocre governor?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:45pm On Jul 31
izzou:
Obi shutting down the country is effectual Leadership?

grin grin grin

It's okay.

YES!!!
Especially, immediately after the elections. His lack of direction has continuously cost his supporters greatly!

The obidient movement till this very moment is on autopilot and continues to be shaped by different twitter talking heads rather than a form of centralised policy directives and political narratives from its leader.
The movement is essentially falling apart because true believers and idealists are disillusioned by what has happened since then. The chaos in the labor party lays bare just how Ineffective, Obi has been.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:46pm On Jul 31
liveLongNprospa:


Lmaoooooo.. Wait.. Are you saying Obi was a mediocre governor?

No. Where have I ever said that?
I said right there in my comment, that Obi was and remains the best candidate of the bunch but he falls very short as a leader of a revolutionary movement such as the obidients.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 2:46pm On Jul 31
donjazzet:


No I don't think nihilist supports Obi hence my disagreement with him calling Obi a tribalist.

But I agree with this part of his posts.


A protest for better governance- yes, but a protest to whom? When has a thief ever agreed to stop stealing your shït because you asked nicely? Or not nicely sef.



The point is that Obi has failed all obidients with his actions or more precisely INACTIONS in mounting a good opposition to this evil government.
Every opposition needs a figure head and that figure head determines the success of your revolution.

Myself and millions believed in Obi and to say he has let us down massively is an understatement.
We came out and voted. YOU WON! But the elections were stolen from you and you decided to play the game by their rules rather than being BRAVE enough to lead a total shutdown of the country. You showed weakness and was beaten. I'm disappointed by his ineffectual leadership.

Lmaoo for an Igbo boy, you are displaying legendary naivety but I get it.
Lmaoo you can join this protest😁.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:46pm On Jul 31
But how is it possible that up till now, the Nigerian government cannot still arrest Simon Ekpa?

If a Nigerian in Nigeria claimed responsibility for the death of four police officers of another nation, I am sure that person would have been caught.

Ahn Ahn.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:47pm On Jul 31
liveLongNprospa:


Lmaoooooo.. Wait.. Are you saying Obi was a mediocre governor?


😐😶

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 2:50pm On Jul 31
donjazzet:


No. Where have I ever said that?
I said right there in my comment, that Obi was and remains the best candidate of the bunch but he falls very short as a leader of a revolutionary movement such as the obidients.

Read what you responded to😁
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 2:50pm On Jul 31
liveLongNprospa:


Lmaoo for an Igbo boy, you are displaying legendary naivety but I get it.
Lmaoo you can join this protest😁.
donjazzet:


No I don't think nihilist supports Obi hence my disagreement with him calling Obi a tribalist.

But I agree with this part of his posts.


A protest for better governance- yes, but a protest to whom? When has a thief ever agreed to stop stealing your shït because you asked nicely? Or not nicely sef.



The point is that Obi has failed all obidients with his actions or more precisely INACTIONS in mounting a good opposition to this evil government.
Every opposition needs a figure head and that figure head determines the success of your revolution.

Myself and millions believed in Obi and to say he has let us down massively is an understatement.
We came out and voted. YOU WON! But the elections were stolen from you and you decided to play the game by their rules rather than being BRAVE enough to lead a total shutdown of the country. You showed weakness and was beaten. I'm disappointed by his ineffectual leadership.
Lmao

Donjay said lead a protest to shut down the country. hahaha.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:50pm On Jul 31
izzou:
But how is it possible that up till now, the Nigerian government cannot still arrest Simon Ekpa?

If a Nigerian in Nigeria claimed responsibility for the death of four police officers of another nation, I am sure that person would have been caught.

Ahn Ahn.

Unless the man goes to an African country to buy weapons, the government cannot do anything. The netherlands may see him as a political refugee. We are not Isrealis or Russians who can easily dispatch foreign based enemies of state
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 2:50pm On Jul 31
izzou:
But how is it possible that up till now, the Nigerian government cannot still arrest Simon Ekpa?

If a Nigerian in Nigeria claimed responsibility for the death of four police officers of another nation, I am sure that person would have been caught.

Ahn Ahn.

Lmao.. Finland apparently is the issue in this case.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:52pm On Jul 31
liveLongNprospa:


Lmaoo for an Igbo boy, you are displaying legendary naivety but I get it.
Lmaoo you can join this protest😁.

If I ask you to explain the legendary naivety, I'm sure you will simply see yourself making excuses as to Obi's ineffectual leadership as an the leader of a movement upon which millions of youths hinged their hopes upon.

A revolutionary leader who doesn't understand that he has to be brave enough to take risks and risks persecution is not ready to lead.
My anger stems from the current predicament of the obidient movement and the LP it adopted. It's all falling apart and Obi is silent. His silence is not golden. It's cowardice.

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