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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by swiz123(m): 12:45pm On Aug 06 |
OasisX: Does that page contain a phone number and an address? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by swiz123(m): 12:47pm On Aug 06 |
Segedinho: Even the biggest Tinubu supporters in Nigeria cannot make such bold claim. The guy took sycophancy to the next level. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:47pm On Aug 06 |
swiz123: .....make una go loot the place in the name of protest?! LOL! |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MEND001: 12:49pm On Aug 06 |
izzou:Who be the our, u seem alone here oh. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:50pm On Aug 06 |
Theflint1: .....you still don't get it. What Fahsola was postulating is; teach these kids skills. Enrol them in vocational/technical schools. Let them acquire skills that will remove them from the streets. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:51pm On Aug 06 |
izzou: My dad started school at 14 (I think) ,after his grandfather died. His grandfather wanted nothing to do with westerm education. So my grandfather had to wait for his father to pass away before putting his children in school. This is way back in the 50s/60s.and this was in ilorin. The core north mentality has not changed much in this regard. If they want western education they will push for it. This is about the serenity prayer. There is nothing I, you or anyone else can do if the northern leadership do not decide by themselves that they want emancipation for thier people. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 12:53pm On Aug 06 |
Is there any link between oando and NNPC..? Almost all the Oando fuel station in benin has transformed to NNPC...but their price remains same 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:55pm On Aug 06 |
Theflint1: Read what Amoto94 wrote. All gej did was throw school buildings at a cultural problem. Bill gates has also spent billions on polio vaccines but the north is still one of the world's last polio reservoirs. If no leaders are ready to teach that western education of any form is a gateway to a better life. And that a better life is desirable (since as Muslims we are taught that this world is a trial and a short test for a much longer hereafter) then any investment in western education for the northern masses is dead on arrival Especially in a place that celebrates Islam as a way of life and all that. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by mikeapollo: 12:57pm On Aug 06 |
Segedinho: Oando sold all their filling stations to NNPC a few years ago. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:57pm On Aug 06 |
Segedinho: Oando sold it's downstream holding to vitol and helios. This became ovhem. But they retained the oando brand. Two years ago vitol and helios sold ovhem to nnpc (that's another long story). So unipetrol to oando to oando marketing to ovhem to nnpc. The circle is complete and unipetrol is back to being a govt company. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by swiz123(m): 12:58pm On Aug 06 |
BlueRayDick: Those that served in the North knows you can get assaulted by a child's parents for not allowing their children leave the class once it's time to farm and they come at random. The culture there has illiteracy as its foundation and this makes most northerners socially awkward to those from the south. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 1:00pm On Aug 06 |
GloriousGbola:No wonder. Thanks for this clarity |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 1:00pm On Aug 06 |
OasisX:And where are the graduates from Fashola's vocational schools today? Maybe na mai suya, POS and mai guard they mean sha...afterall they make POS operatives register with CAC and celebrate it as them having provided jobs. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 1:01pm On Aug 06 |
mikeapollo: Good....but why is their price different from the real NNPC Mega's .. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 1:02pm On Aug 06 |
GloriousGbola:And if the investment from Bill Gate's wasn't there it'd be a lot worse, and that's the point, small success is better than no success at all. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Domainer1999: 1:03pm On Aug 06 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MEND001: 1:04pm On Aug 06 |
izzou:Are they not Nigerians too like u. They have their own right too. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:04pm On Aug 06 |
Theflint1: The reality of northern workers is actually clear from the demographics of okada riders, security men and Labour on constitution sites. The best most of them are trained in is farming. Which is why even as security they are nomadic. They will always travel to go to their farms up north at inopportune moments. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:05pm On Aug 06 |
swiz123: Despite free education in state government owned schools, most of the classes are always empty. Some of the governors used school feeding as the game changer to entice those kids to come to school. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by swiz123(m): 1:07pm On Aug 06 |
GloriousGbola: I understand your point now and you are correct. Brilliant submission! |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:11pm On Aug 06 |
Theflint1: What is the ratio of investment to result? So the two or three people listed in the article BlueRayDick posted are worth 15b investment? Na so you dey run business Should we also say that if one pump worked in the refineries after billions in TAM, small success is better than no success at all? You are just capping agenda right now. You a business owner will throw big funds at a problem for 'small success'? I have actually in the recent past advised people on this. Some dude wanted to demolish and rebuild a shopping mall. The argument was the mall was the only mall in a choice area in Abuja. I asked if they had actually crunched the numbers. It was not my business, but I asked. I have not heard from them since. But now they are renovating rather than demolish and rebuild. Dey cap small success is better than no success on 15billion investment. Then also cap about Nigeria being broke. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:12pm On Aug 06 |
OasisX: Which skill is he teaching the ones in Lagos that removed them from the streets? Abi which kind logic be this one 5 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:13pm On Aug 06 |
Theflint1: ......are you kidding?! Graduates of Fashola's vocational school for real?! What do you understand by vocational school bro?! Kindly tell me. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by swiz123(m): 1:14pm On Aug 06 |
BlueRayDick: Or rather they used school feeding to enrich themselves. Reminds of the days Buhari fed school children with 1 billion daily. Never has anything more stupid been done in Nigeria. Like GloriousGbola opined, those clerics are the elephant in the room and not these backwater solutions. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 1:18pm On Aug 06 |
Elon father their Daddy 1 Like
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 1:22pm On Aug 06 |
GloriousGbola:We'd never know the level of success the initiative would have achieved because it was frustrated, abandoned and ultimately amounted to nothing. Bill Gates has been investing in polio vaccination for as long as I can remember, I'm sure the success they achieved in the first couple of years can't be compared to the success the program has enjoyed decades later. You keep pointing at the cultural problem the North has, the alternative can't be complete abandonment until they all come around and say we love western education or love vaccines. The way Bill Gates would measure success in Microsoft would be very different from the way he'd measure success in his NGO initiatives, two very different things. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:26pm On Aug 06 |
swiz123: Those clerics are the people. U can't separate a core northerner from his religion & culture. Some of these things go deeper than somebody just saying " Jonathan used the Almajari school system to enrich himself and his cronies" Yes Jonathan the president failed and was shown the way out. But u should also be aware that Buhari a core northerner ruled for 8 years and nothing changed; in fact things got even worse. Why ? Because whether u call it backwater solutions or frontwater solutions, those clerics are the voice of the people. They are part and parcel of the people. It was way back in SS1 studying Government as a subject I had long realized that the religion and culture thing is what the typical northerner holds dear. You will rarely see the people go against the opinion of their leaders. And that's one of the real reasons why the British's indirect rule was a huge success. The people listen to their traditional-cum-religious leaders whcih makes it easier for the colonial masters to have them on chokehold |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:32pm On Aug 06 |
chrisooblog: That's why they tied red ribbons on their arms? Ohhhhhhh.. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:33pm On Aug 06 |
Theflint1: You are missing the point. Bill gates is one of the world's richest men - he has achieved most of what he set out to achieve. He can afford to waste billions trying to solve a problem. A country like Nigeria should be doing proper cost benefit analysis before investing in significant amounts of cash into problems. We can all agree the money gej spent was a a complete waste,whatever his intentions may have been 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 1:44pm On Aug 06 |
GloriousGbola:You saying Bill Gates can afford to waste money, makes it sound like he doesn't have tons of professionals in his employ managing these projects and setting metrics for success. Determinants for success in certain certain projects depends on the nature of the project. For example parameters for success in a back to school initiative in Southern Nigeria would differ greatly from Northern Nigeria, but investments would need be made either way and success measured by impact over time and on case by case basis. Yea, while we can agree that the project failed, it's also important we consider why it failed and not just say it failed because Jonathan was a stupid man that wanted to waste money. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:00pm On Aug 06 |
BlueRayDick: The key thing about Almajiri schools why it was a waste of time is that unless the people buy into the idea and change the cultural mindset, they will find it insulting and reject it. How many times have you seen Northern elders defend Almajiri system as their culture and religious way of life Ordinary telling people to give birth to kids they can cater for is a sensitive topic as they will tell you God takes care of children. To even get people to take polio vaccine its war. There was a time Northern Nigeria was the only place polio was thriving and I was at the forefront cos I was involved in a UNICEF project to vaccinate people. Take vaccine to protct your child should be the easiest thing to get people onboard with yet it was an issue A people who started a terror organzation and named it "Western Education is a sin" those are the ones you built Almajiri schools for? Dey play my people Until the North decides to change many things we are just wasting our time |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:06pm On Aug 06 |
Theflint1: The kids wont be better until the leaders of the region decide to move in a different direction How long before they tag anyone involved in Almajiri school an enemy of Islam? |
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