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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:17pm On Aug 06
What’s is the meaning of policy? Oya explain since u think u are teaching me something new.

Dude you are just rambling. Take note how you opened this discussion. What did I say and what are u busy trying to disprove?

If investors are hesitant to invest who do you blame?

lovewins:


No one is absolving government of responsibility, if you read my post carefully I said as much. The crux of mt my argument is even with good administrators and policy backup there's little we can achieve because Nigeria sadly isn't rich enough to fund sports. It is why my advocacy is for government to completely handsoff sports in Nigeria.

So my argument isn't for more government policies but just one policy, which is government divesting from sports.

Also, the private sector in Nigeria is well equipped to fund sporting events in Nigeria. The only reason they won't right now is because there's little or no return on investments when they partner with any sporting brand. Government divesting totally from telecommunications and entertainment is what led to the boost we've seen in both industries. BB naija which is just a program here more sponsorship yearly than Nigeria's biggest sporting brand the Super Eagles and all their money comes from the private sector.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 6:19pm On Aug 06
The women’s long jump final is on Thursday at 7pm

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 6:24pm On Aug 06
You can contest! What is stopping you Mr intellectual?
Joebie:
This boy is a fool. What’s this talk about UK sef?

If we cannot tell ourselves the truth we cannot move forward as a nation.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:24pm On Aug 06
charlesemeka85:
Multiple reports have it that Victor Osimhen may have to remain at Napoli because:

- He and his agent reportedly don't want a loan deal of any type.

- He and his agent reportedly won't accept any wage cut.

#copied

He might move to Chelsea. Cunny man die na cunny man bury am. Seria A teams sabi loan move but dem no like to loan dem top players.

Who bi mumu?

Chelsea is ready to pay Osimhen's wages but they want him on loan. Napoli can't afford the wages again and they want Lukaku for cheap. cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 6:26pm On Aug 06
Keep your peace! Otellectual no go ever gree until you say God punish Tinubu!
lovewins:


No one is absolving government of responsibility, if you read my post carefully I said as much. The crux of mt my argument is even with good administrators and policy backup there's little we can achieve because Nigeria sadly isn't rich enough to fund sports. It is why my advocacy is for government to completely handsoff sports in Nigeria.

So my argument isn't for more government policies but just one policy, which is government divesting from sports.

Also, the private sector in Nigeria is well equipped to fund sporting events in Nigeria. The only reason they won't right now is because there's little or no return on investments when they partner with any sporting brand. Government divesting totally from telecommunications and entertainment is what led to the boost we've seen in both industries. BB naija which is just a program here more sponsorship yearly than Nigeria's biggest sporting brand the Super Eagles and all their money comes from the private sector.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:27pm On Aug 06
Marjoribanks:
Exactly! People like YOU! Anything to hate on the country!
If you don't like the country dey your dey and stop the negativity all the time.

Or you can join the far-right in your UK to help them get their country back! lol! Rest abeg!



Na US Joe dey.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:28pm On Aug 06
Your problem is you are always busy people- labeling. You can’t do that and sound intelligent at the same time.

.
Marjoribanks:
You can contest! What is stopping you Mr intellectual?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:30pm On Aug 06
Why does it even matter where I am. Can’t we engage ourselves without the labelling. Can’t we be objective for once? Once u think someone is not on your “side” you want to go against every thing they say. That’s childish.

forgiveness:


Na US Joe dey.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:32pm On Aug 06
The bolded is the crux of the matter. I knew it all along. grin
Marjoribanks:
Keep your peace! Otellectual no go ever gree until you say God punish Tinubu!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:34pm On Aug 06
Troost Ekong going to Saudi Arabia?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 6:36pm On Aug 06
You can keep ranting, but you'll never be taken seriously. Doesn't ranting ever tire you out?

We had two under-23 boys in the Olympic 100m semifinals, one each in the 200m and 400m semifinals, one girl in the 100m final, and three in the long jump finals. And several others!Most of them are homegrown athletes, yet you're still complaining. The most by any African country! Keep crying, soogbo!

Joebie:
Your problem is you are always busy people- labeling. You can’t do that and sound intelligent at the same time.

.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 6:38pm On Aug 06
Of course! We are know that's what you want all along and i kuku give it to you. Now you f offf!!
Joebie:
The bolded is the crux of the matter. I knew it all along. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:40pm On Aug 06
The more talents u produce the higher the chances of medals. Simple game of numbers. Abi did I say Nigeria have never won medals in the Olympics?

Do you have a problem with UK residents? Guy you are just troubled. Always looking for people to label and make enemies.

If you want to believe we are not lagging behind, fine. But no abuse people that are just speaking facts.

Marjoribanks:
You can keep ranting, but you'll never be taken seriously. Doesn't ranting ever tire you out?

We had two under-23 boys in the Olympic 100m semifinals, one each in the 200m and 400m semifinals, one girl in the 100m final, and three in the long jump finals. And several others!Most of them are homegrown athletes, yet you're still complaining. The most by any African country! Keep crying, soogbo!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 6:40pm On Aug 06
He must have stayed in UK at one point in his live. US peeps don't reason like him!
forgiveness:


Na US Joe dey.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:41pm On Aug 06
lovewins:


No one is absolving government of responsibility, if you read my post carefully I said as much. The crux of mt my argument is even with good administrators and policy backup there's little we can achieve because Nigeria sadly isn't rich enough to fund sports. It is why my advocacy is for government to completely handsoff sports in Nigeria.

So my argument isn't for more government policies but just one policy, which is government divesting from sports.

Also, the private sector in Nigeria is well equipped to fund sporting events in Nigeria. The only reason they won't right now is because there's little or no return on investments when they partner with any sporting brand. Government divesting totally from telecommunications and entertainment is what led to the boost we've seen in both industries. BB naija which is just a program here more sponsorship yearly than Nigeria's biggest sporting brand the Super Eagles and all their money comes from the private sector.

Not saying you are wrong but I will say government needs to play part in it. How?

1. Provision of facilities from primary to university
2. Initiate competitions for primary and secondary schools from local government, state and federal level. Including university.
3. Give incentives to prospectus winners. Such as scholarship and full sponsorship for competitions abroad.
4. Develop leagues for various sports and get it sponsored by private sectors.
Etc.
5. Employe former gold medalist as national coaches. For example, our wrestling improved because of Daniel Igali.

As at now, all these are dead like dodo. We use to have them before but politicians are fiction on oil money because they don't understand Sports can used to create employment and wealth.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 6:42pm On Aug 06
What have you done for Nigeria Athletics? What do you know self boy? Keep quiet and move!
Joebie:
The more talents u produce the higher the chances of medals. Simple game of numbers. Abi did I say Nigeria have never won medals in the Olympics?

Do you have a problem with UK residents? Guy you are just troubled. Always looking for people to label and make enemies.

If you want to believe we are not lagging behind, fine. But no abuse people that are just speaking facts.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:43pm On Aug 06
Haha. Next time I go talk next 5 years so u no go vex.

Marjoribanks:
Of course! We are know that's what you want all along and i kuku give it to you. Now you f offf!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:44pm On Aug 06
Joebie:
Why does it even matter where I am. Can’t we engage ourselves without the labelling. Can’t we be objective for once? Once u think someone is not on your “side” you want to go against every thing they say. That’s childish.


I understand but either of you are objective. Just consider both are there own perception. That's enough to resolve the problem.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:44pm On Aug 06
grin

Calm down. But I go like know ur age sha make I send u happy bday when time reach.

Marjoribanks:
What have you done for Nigeria Athletics? What do you know self boy? Keep quiet and move!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:47pm On Aug 06
The issue is I said come next 4 years and we will be having same discussion. Oga think say na elections I dey talk o, and I was talking about our performance in every Olympics. Very laughably I came from my rat hole to spew trash and all the UK labeling on top this matter. Very objective indeed
forgiveness:


I understand but either of you are objective. Just consider both are there own perception. That's enough to resolve the problem.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 6:47pm On Aug 06
lol! Do you know the number of our Athletes on scholarship in the United States? Maybe before but in the last 5 years we have sent close to 1000 athletse to various Universities in the United states. You guys are too dis-informed on this platform. Ajayi just left this January.

Many could not meet the Olympic standard but they would by 2028.
Just be patient! 2028 will shock you!
forgiveness:


Nit saying you are wrong but I will say government needs to play part in it. How?

1. Provision of facilities from primary to university
2. Initiate competitions for primary and secondary schools from local government, state and federal level.
3. Give incentives to prospectus winners. Such as scholarship and full sponsorship for competitions abroad.
4. Develop leagues for various sports and get it sponsored by private sectors.
Etc.
5. Employe former gold medalist as national coaches. For example, our wrestling improved because of Daniel Igali.

As at now, all these are dead like dodo. We use to have them before but politicians are fiction on oil money because they don't understand Sports can used to create employment and wealth.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:50pm On Aug 06
grin
You really have issues

Marjoribanks:
He must have stayed in UK at one point in his live. US peeps don't reason like him!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 6:51pm On Aug 06
Letz go Ogaziiiiii! You can do this!!

First year in the state running under 45s. Yet miscreants keep ranting.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 6:53pm On Aug 06
Ogazi new personal best 44:41. This boy is just 19!
We coming! 3rd place finish, we wait to see if he qualifies! Hmm

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 6:54pm On Aug 06
Joebie:
What’s is the meaning of policy? Oya explain since u think u are teaching me something new.

Dude you are just rambling. Take note how you opened this discussion. What did I say and what are u busy trying to disprove?

If investors are hesitant to invest who do you blame?


I'm not trying to prove anything on a faceless platform, I thought we were having a civil discourse. And no I am not rambling, was simply clarifying to give added context, but it appears you see it as some sort of price winning competition.

My argument is simply that we have a better chance at success if government stops running sports. So by one policy I mean just an act of Congress where government is fully divest from sports administration save for investments in infrastructure, and the reason why that is needed is government running sports in itself is an act of Congress.

Investors are hesitant to invest because it's bad business simple. It's bad business because government is invested. It's the same way Investors won't put money in our refineries or the ajaokuta steel mill to jointly run it with government. But let government put those facilities 100% for sale tomorrow and you'll see buyers lining up. Government just has to hands of running sports. Simple.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:54pm On Aug 06
Marjoribanks:
lol! Do you know the number of our Athletes on scholarship in the United States? Maybe before but in the last 5 years we have sent close to 1000 athletse to various Universities in the United states. You guys are too dis-informed on this platform. Ajayi just left this January.

Many could not meet the Olympic standard but they would by 2028.
Just be patient! 2028 will shock you!

Are you talking about athletics alone?

I am talking about sports industry generally not only athletics.

Nevertheless, what they are getting is just 0.01% of the talent available.

My son can run 100m but I no wan make em go because he prefers football.

However, if it's made compulsory in secondary schools and he eventually participates in a state competition, peradventure he can be scouted. I am not saying he's the best but I am saying if there's a process, perhaps it should be more than 1,000 which is too small for a country with 250m population.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:56pm On Aug 06
Joebie:
The issue is I said come next 4 years and we will be having same discussion. Oga think say na elections I dey talk o, and I was talking about our performance in every Olympics. Very laughably I came from my rat hole to spew trash and all the UK labeling on top this matter. Very objective indeed

It's okay my friend. Just move on.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:58pm On Aug 06
How u take start this talk. Go read am again, and if u are adding meat to what I earlier said then you should have implied that from the very start.

lovewins:


I'm not trying to prove anything on a faceless platform, I thought we were having a civil discourse. And no I am not rambling, was simply clarifying to give added context, but it appears you see it as some sort of price winning competition.

My argument is simply that we have a better chance at success if government stops running sports. So by one policy I mean just an act of Congress where government is fully divest from sports administration save for investments in infrastructure, and the reason why that is needed is government running sports in itself is an act of Congress.

Investors are hesitant to invest because it's bad business simple. It's bad business because government is invested. It's the same way Investors won't put money in our refineries or the ajaokuta steel mill to jointly run it with government. But let government put those facilities 100% for sale tomorrow and you'll see buyers lining up. Government just has to hands of running sports. Simple.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 7:02pm On Aug 06
forgiveness:


Not saying you are wrong but I will say government needs to play part in it. How?

1. Provision of facilities from primary to university
2. Initiate competitions for primary and secondary schools from local government, state and federal level. Including university.
3. Give incentives to prospectus winners. Such as scholarship and full sponsorship for competitions abroad.
4. Develop leagues for various sports and get it sponsored by private sectors.
Etc.
5. Employe former gold medalist as national coaches. For example, our wrestling improved because of Daniel Igali.

As at now, all these are dead like dodo. We use to have them before but politicians are fiction on oil money because they don't understand Sports can used to create employment and wealth.


I should probably have clarified I primarily meant running sports.

1. I agree government should invest in basic infrastructural development that will serve as the pedestal for discovering local talents.

2. Competitions do not necessarily have to be government initiated. I remember Milo used to solely run basketball ball events for secondary school across Nigeria. Private organisations can handle this quite frankly. I am not averse to government organising this, they just haven't shown to be good managers of programs like this.

3. 100% of our athletes currently in the US are in scholarship with no input from government. Trust me if this was a government program nepotism and quota system will destroy it. There was a scholarship program (not sports related) that the Jonathan administration was running for first class students and it was based on merit cause they had to write exams. Immediately Buhari was elected he stopped it because a section of the country wasn't properly represented as winner. We just need to develop good enough athletes, American schools are on the hunt for talents they will better their programs. BTW, Jamaica too now outsource their talents to the US now.

4. Being a past athletes doesn't necessarily translate into being a good administrator or coach. One thing with getting private sector run programmes is that they very rarely allow sentiments thrive because investors want returns on their investments.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:03pm On Aug 06
Marjoribanks:
He must have stayed in UK at one point in his live. US peeps don't reason like him!

For where? Na confirm US based.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:05pm On Aug 06
lovewins:


I should probably have clarified I primarily meant running sports.

1. I agree government should invest in basic infrastructural development that will serve as the pedestal for discovering local talents.

2. Competitions do not necessarily have to be government initiated. I remember Milo used to solely run basketball ball events for secondary school across Nigeria. Private organisations can handle this quite frankly. I am not averse to government organising this, they just haven't shown to be good managers of programs like this.

3. 100% of our athletes currently in the US are in scholarship with no input from government. Trust me if this was a government program nepotism and quota system will destroy it. There was a scholarship program (not sports related) that the Jonathan administration was running for first class students and it was based on merit cause they had to write exams. Immediately Buhari was elected he stopped it because a section of the country wasn't properly represented as winner. We just need to develop good enough athletes, American schools are on the hunt for talents they will better their programs. BTW, Jamaica too now outsource their talents to the US now.

4. Being a past athletes doesn't necessarily translate into being a good administrator or coach. One thing with getting private sector run programmes is that they very rarely allow sentiments thrive because investors want returns on their investments.

My point is government should be the catalyst for this to run.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:07pm On Aug 06
Because US peeps reason same way. lol

I no know where he even carry he own reasoning from. Na probably home training because I no fit match am to any location in the world map.

forgiveness:


For where? Na confirm US based.

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