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Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology / Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish / "I Have Seen My House In Heaven, I Can't Wait To Go" - Pastor Adeboye (2) (3) (4)
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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:15pm On Aug 06 |
Since the year 1914! |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Prosper1912: 9:48pm On Aug 06 |
MaxInDHouse:That emusan nor get brain. |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Prosper1912: 9:56pm On Aug 06 |
Emusan: U ask me to prove how it was 1914 still u were saying is 1913 and I have done the calculation for u. |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:05pm On Aug 06 |
Prosper1912: I don't want to engage anyone who is not ready for mature discussions whatever anyone feels is his or her personal problem what i know and can prove beyond reasonable doubt is that Jesus was enthroned in the year 1914. Whoever wants to engage me on that should be prepared for mature discussions not insults. |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 12:49am On Aug 07 |
MaxInDHouse: ^^ repetitive obsessive compulsion < multiple occurrences lost false jw mad max repeating the truth as Christians do is good but being compelled to repeating the same obsessions over and over again is mental disease and you false jw's are full of it in many threads your madness is also known as: Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both. OCD is mental disease 1 Like |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 2:09am On Aug 07 |
carm dot org The Watchtower and the 1914 Generation Since their earliest years, Jehovah’s Witnesses have believed that the end must come within one generation of a supposed invisible return of Christ. According to Watchtower literature today, Jesus is said to have taken his throne as king in the heavens in the year 1914. This is the invisible return. They believe that Matthew 24:34 teaches that the final judgment must occur within a generation of that date. This teaching has proven problematic as 1914 is now over a hundred years past, leading to reinterpretations to try to preserve this failed prediction. The 1874 Generation Many Jehovah’s Witnesses are unaware that their founder’s original teaching was that Jesus’ invisible return was in 1874 rather than 1914. The founder of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Charles Taze Russell, taught that Jesus’ return began in 1874 (though he did not fully ascend to the throne until 1878) and that the day of God’s wrath would be complete in 1914 or 1915. He thus explains that the time between the invisible return of Christ and the end of God’s judgment of the world would be well within one generation.1 In spite of the fact that this failed to transpire, Watchtower literature continued to hold to the 1874 return of Christ through the 1920’s. One publication, for example, plainly stated: “Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874,” (Watchtower Jan 1, 1924 p.5) Thus for some time, the Jehovah’s Witnesses taught that the end must come before the generation of 1874 passed away. 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 2:23am On Aug 07 |
Those Alive in 1914 In spite of all this clarity and alleged certainty, the date of Jesus’ “invisible return” was eventually changed to 1914 (the date of Russell’s original prediction for the final judgment). As to the generation, the Watchtower literature explained: “Some persons living A.D. 1914 when the series of foretold events began will also be living when the series ends with Armageddon. All the events will come within the span of one generation,” (Watchtower, Sept 1, 1952) The literature was clear that the “battle of the day of Jehovah” would come “shortly, within our twentieth century.”2 They went on saying for decades things like: “In 1914, he went into action as ruling king. Satan and his demons were promptly hurled out of heaven, this act cleansing the seat of government. (Revelation 12:7-12) The Present world system had entered its final days. The countdown that had proceeded for some six millenniums now nears its zero hour. So close is it that people who were alive in 1914, and who are now well along in years, will not pass off the scene before the thrilling events marking the vindication of Jehovah’s sovereignty come to pass – Mark 13:30,” (Survival into a New Earth, 1984, Pg 185) “It was to our generation that Jesus referred when he added the key thought: ‘this generation will by no means pass away until all things occur.’ (Matt. 25:34) The generation that saw the beginning of woes in 1914 would also see the end of Satan and his entire wicked system of things. Some who were alive then would still be alive when ‘the end’ comes,” (Awake!, 1966, pg 18) The literature even seemed to imply that they did not merely mean just anyone born by 1914, but specifically those who were old enough to actually be witnesses of the things that occurred that year: “Some who saw the events of 1914 will also see the complete destruction of this present wicked world,” (Studies in the Scriptures, 1989, pg 200) We have left the twentieth century behind. We are over a century passed 1914. The Watchtower expectation remains unfulfilled. While there are still a small number of people left who were alive in 1914, perhaps even a few who were old enough to qualify as eyewitnesses, the Watchtower has already begun preparing for the inevitable failure of this prediction by changing the rules again on what they once proclaimed to be so certain. 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 3:21am On Aug 07 |
The Overlapping Anointed Generation In the last several years, the Watchtower literature has been changing their interpretation yet again. In 2010, they began explaining: “We do well to keep in mind several things about the word “generation”: It usually refers to people of varying ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period; it is not excessively long; and it has an end. (Ex 1:6) How, then, are we to understand Jesus’ words about “this generation”? He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation. That generation had a beginning, and it surely will have an end. The fulfilling of various features of the sign clearly indicate that the tribulation must be near,” (Watchtower, April 15 2010) In 2014 they repeated all of this, and went on to further explain: “Anyone who was anointed after the death of the last of the anointed ones in the first group—that is, after those who witnessed the “beginning of pangs of distress” in 1914—would not be part of “this generation.”—Matt. 24:8,” (God’s Kingdom Rules, 2014, pg 12) and “The anointed ones who are still alive and part of “this generation” are getting on in years; yet, they will not all die off before the great tribulation begins. Therefore, we can conclude that very soon indeed God’s Kingdom will come and exercise its rule over the earth! How thrilling it will be to witness the fulfillment of the prayer that Jesus taught us: “Let your Kingdom come”!” (God’s Kingdom Rules, 2014, pg 12) In other words, “this generation” is now defined as two groups of people. The first is anyone who was already a part of the Jehovah’s Witness “anointed class”3 in 1914. The second group is anyone who became a member of the “anointed class” during the lifetime of the first group. The literature implies that the first group has already died and that the second group is “getting on in years.” What year did the last of the first group die? Just how old is meant by “getting on in years?” The Watchtower leaves all of this far more ambiguous than they used to. Still, this explanation will likely see some further tweaking in the next few decades to allow for an even longer understanding of what it means to be a “generation.” Conclusion: The 1914 Doctrine is Demonstrably False While it’s impossible to read the motives of another man’s heart, these changes at least appear rather telling. If the Watchtower writers really believed their own teachings, you would expect them to see that the 1914 generation was nearly over and to be doubling down with urgency as the end must be upon us any day now. Instead, you see the convenient rewriting of the teachings to buy time while straining the definition of words beyond reason. It seems the leaders of the Jehovah’s Witnesses wish to maintain just enough urgency to keep their people engaged, but that they doubt their own teachings too much to let them stand in the twilight years of their once firm prediction. The Watchtower has a long history of false prophecies due to their poor system of interpreting the Bible. This is another example where a single set of biblical misunderstandings has produced a series of failed predictions and is in the process of producing more before our very eyes. The world did not end in 1914. It did not end before the generation of 1874 passed away. It did not end before the close of the twentieth century. The Watchtower writers have already hedged their bets that they will fail again as we approach the tragic passing away of the last of those who lived to see the year 1914. These predictions have failed, and continue to fail, because the governing body of the Jehovah’s Witnesses is not God’s organization as they falsely claim to be, and they cannot interpret the Bible properly. The whole Jehovah’s Witness system has shown itself to be a lie. 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 3:27am On Aug 07 |
so called Jehovah's witnesses told me in the 1980's that the anointed ones who were still alive are now very old, and so the kingdom is very near. if those very old anointed ones were 90 + years old back in the 1980's, then they would be 130 + years old today false jw's anointed ones all died, and their kingdom didn't come |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:13am On Aug 07 |
Jesus became the king of God's Kingdom in the year 1914! |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 6:27am On Aug 07 |
MaxInDHouse: ^^ repetitive obsessive compulsion < multiple occurrences lost false jw mad max repeating the truth as Christians do is good but being compelled to repeating the same obsessions over and over again is mental disease, your habitual lying is of course of the devil and you false jw's are full of repetitive obsessive compulsion and lies in many threads: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. your madness is also known as: Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both. OCD is mental disease 1 Like |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 9:35am On Aug 07 |
Emusan: DaddyCoool: CanadaOrBust: All Watchtower prophecies about end of the world FAILED! 4 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Emusan(m): 9:54am On Aug 07 |
Prosper1912: Where did I ask YOU to prove how it was 1914? NOW THAT I BROUGHT THE SAME ChatGPT to you, you went cold 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Emusan(m): 9:55am On Aug 07 |
Prosper1912: You didn't address my post but the next thing is to start abusing! Well, I know your type. 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:10am On Aug 07 |
Jesus began ruling in the year 1914! |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 10:39am On Aug 07 |
MaxInDHouse: ^^ repetitive obsessive compulsion < multiple occurrences lost false jw mad max repeating the truth as Christians do is good but being compelled to repeating the same obsessions over and over again is mental disease, your habitual lying is of course of the devil and you false jw's are full of repetitive obsessive compulsion and lies in many threads: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. your madness is also known as: Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both. OCD is mental disease 1 Like |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:06pm On Aug 07 |
The year 1914! |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by armchairscholar: 2:40pm On Aug 07 |
MaxInDHouse: Love the analysis. Nice work. |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 10:51pm On Aug 07 |
MaxInDHouse: ^^ repetitive obsessive compulsion < multiple occurrences lost false jw mad max repeating the truth as Christians do is good but being compelled to repeating the same obsessions over and over again is mental disease, your habitual lying is of course of the devil and you false jw's are full of repetitive obsessive compulsion and lies in many threads: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. your madness is also known as: Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both. OCD is mental disease |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 11:40pm On Aug 07 |
MaxInDHouse: according to false jw's/false prophets: “Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874,” (Watchtower Jan 1, 1924 p.5) |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 12:23am On Aug 08 |
according to false jw's/false prophets: ● Jesus started being present with His people in 1874, and He started ruling in heaven in 1878 (ibid., p. 236, 239–40). ● The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226). ● The Last Days began 1799 (The Harp of God, 1928 ed., p. 235–36, 239). |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:53am On Aug 08 |
armchairscholar: All glory and honor to our God Jehovah who is revealing sacred secret to His worshipers in this time of the end! |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 6:06am On Aug 08 |
MaxInDHouse: lost false jw mad max was it Jehovah Who revealed to you that He is not all knowing was it Jehovah Who revealed to you that He is not Almighty was it Jehovah Who revealed to you that Jesus is a deceiver was it Jehovah Who revealed to you that olaadegbu, emusan, and johnw47 are the same person was it Jehovah who told you to blaspheme and say that the Holy Spirit told you that lies, paranoia, blasphemy, etc. etc. etc. Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies. |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00am On Aug 08 |
johnw47: Some will SEE the goodness of God no matter what you think, say or do. So continue fooling yourself! |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 10:11am On Aug 08 |
MaxInDHouse: oh duh lost false jw mad max saying the truth is anything but fooling myself: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:37pm On Aug 08 |
johnw47: Upon all your troubles the below comment has put you to shame! armchairscholar: |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 1:00pm On Aug 08 |
MaxInDHouse: oh duh very dum lost false jw mad max just because he say's it doesn't make it true, just like calling yourself Jehovah's witnesses, doesn't make that true habitual liars certainly are not Jehovah's witnesses, you are deluded, you are false jw's: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:50pm On Aug 08 |
johnw47: Shame on you! |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 9:00pm On Aug 08 |
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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 9:08pm On Aug 08 |
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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 11:19pm On Aug 08 |
MaxInDHouse: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints lost false jw mad max |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 11:24pm On Aug 08 |
Aemmyjah: ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost false jw lover aemmy |
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