vanitybutiwanti:
shut the fhuck up hypocriite, do you ever mind your own business, I wish I could see you right now, I will slap the fhuck out of you.

Wike criminal. You still come here to cry. If I tell you to come let's see now you will run. Don't worry I will take a selfie with your criminal god one day so you will see. Nonentity feeling funky

I mentioned the relevant law, is under the protection acts, is it because Nigerians do not sue their churches for this kind of things, you think is not covered under the Nigeria law. This is 100% legal.

Quest7777:

You are just looking at the moral point of view and not the legal.

Look, things that border on belief is entirely your right & responsibility. Many churches sell bangles, stickers, water etc claiming they have healing and supernatural powers.

If you foolishly choose to belief such claims, you are only excercising your religious rights. You can't expect the law to avenge for your foolishness.

If it were so, all these religious centres would have been closed down by Govt as Scamming centres.

Quest7777:
Lets get this clear:

-Prophet Fufeyin manufactures soap,
-sends the soap to NAFDAC for certification,
-NAFDAC certifies the soap based on the listed ingredients, that it is OK for use by Nigerians,
-Fufeyin prays over the soap and presumably impacts healing powers into the soap,
-Fufeyin puts up the soap for sale,
-Nigerians who believe Fufeyin has impacted healing powers into the soap buy the soap.

-VDM calls out Fufeyin as a Scammer
-Fufeyin sues him to court for spoiling business for him, restraining him from further speaking against the miracle soap.

My opinion:
*Nafdac only certified the soap as ordinary soap not as miracle soap so Nafdac has nothing to answer

*Court can not convict Fufeyin as a Scammer. I have never seen any pastor jailed on account of failed religious belief or prophecy.
Also it will mean all these pastors who sell Olive Oil as Anointing Oil would have been convicted.
*VDM should be careful. He stands the risk of being convicted for Defamation, cyberbullying or some other criminal charges.
*I'm not in any way justifying Fufeyin. I'm only looking at the legal perspective.

I wish you made sense.
If you buy a TV and it's not displaying videos how would you feel. Won't you scream scam? VDM took the healing water he bought to physically challenged people to heal them but none was healed so he has the right to vent the way any disappointed person would. He gave his honest review of the products he bought.

Zionmdde:

In the eyes of the law you can't also prove the originality of anything termed "spiritual ".

I hope you watched the completed video clip, didn't you see where the self acclaimed man of God said the miracle soap has NAFDAC NUMBER? So spiritual soap was taken to for a lab test and thereby certified by NAFDAC?
Definitely, the law has to prove it. Since it is certified by NAFDAC...

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Keep quoting me. I am very unapologetic on what I said. Those adults in his church choose to be there and consume his products. In the eyes of the law you can't also prove the originality of anything termed "spiritual ". Because you can't also prove that you have fulfilled the terms of engagement

So in simple terms you can't cry more than the bereaved. If people feel happy going there let them continue.

The pastor ought to have confined the sale to only his church members.
How was VDM able to get hold of it?

Sonnobax15:

Honestly, just take a look at the people VDM is risking his life fighting for trying to defend the obviously fake prophet above . This clearly speaks volume of how the mind of an average Nigerian has been brainwashed by these so-called MOG.......

I don't believe these people defending prophet Jeremiah are being emotional,even tho I don't wanna insult anyone but I think they aren't normal at all.

Their mind works like Tinubu supporters, no more or less

I can assure you that the pastor can present 100 people in the court that will testify that the products worked for them.

BeigJawnson:


I hope you watched the completed video clip, didn't you see where the self acclaimed man of God said the miracle soap has NAFDAC NUMBER? So spiritual soap was taken to for a lab test and thereby certified by NAFDAC?
Definitely, the law has to prove it. Since it is certified by NAFDAC...

Good assuming he is saying the truth that nafdac approved it, you have no case
If you carry juju soap and go to nafdac they will run tests to ascertain that the soap is safe to use and approve it

I can produce a soap and name it spiritual soap, it's just a brand name. Has Joy soap proven that their soap gives joy? So why does spiritual soap need to prove anything.

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Keep quoting me. I am very unapologetic on what I said. Those adults in his church choose to be there and consume his products. In the eyes of the law you can't also prove the originality of anything termed "spiritual ". Because you can't also prove that you have fulfilled the terms of engagement

So in simple terms you can't cry more than the bereaved. If people feel happy going there let them continue.

Well, people like me and VDM will never cease to oppose lying preachers. Fuçk false hope! The sheeple must be freed!

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Keep quoting me. I am very unapologetic on what I said. Those adults in his church choose to be there and consume his products. In the eyes of the law you can't also prove the originality of anything termed "spiritual ". Because you can't also prove that you have fulfilled the terms of engagement

So in simple terms you can't cry more than the bereaved. If people feel happy going there let them continue.

Sheepel
No iota of IQ

Minjim:






The pastor ought to have confined the sale to only his church members.
How was VDM able to get hold of it?

As long as nafdac approves it, he can sell it to anyone he likes

There is no legally approved non medicinal or non intoxicating product that by Nigerian law is confined to a specific set of people

Zionmdde:

Good assuming he is saying the truth that nafdac approved it, you have no case
If you carry juju soap and go to nafdac they will run tests to ascertain that the soap is safe to use and approve it

I can produce a soap and name it spiritual soap, it's just a brand name. Has Joy soap proven that their soap gives joy? So why does spiritual soap need to prove anything.

Joy soap didn't say it will give joy... Do you get that?

By the way, if you know what they call real miracles from God, they have no formula...
Let me ask you before I go further... Are you a Christain?

femi4:
Sheepel
No iota of IQ

Mr IQ cry me a river

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Keep quoting me. I am very unapologetic on what I said. Those adults in his church choose to be there and consume his products. In the eyes of the law you can't also prove the originality of anything termed "spiritual ". Because you can't also prove that you have fulfilled the terms of engagement

So in simple terms you can't cry more than the bereaved. If people feel happy going there let them continue.

Ignorant post

Zionmdde:

Mr IQ cry me a river

The joke is on you
Wọn ti fi ori ẹ gba parọ

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Keep quoting me. I am very unapologetic on what I said. Those adults in his church choose to be there and consume his products. In the eyes of the law you can't also prove the originality of anything termed "spiritual ". Because you can't also prove that you have fulfilled the terms of engagement

So in simple terms you can't cry more than the bereaved. If people feel happy going there let them continue.

zombie mentality

Zionmdde:

As long as nafdac approves it, he can sell it to anyone he likes

There is no legally approved non medicinal or non intoxicating product that by Nigerian law is confined to a specific set of people

If NAFDAC approves it then it will display its content, this is what VDM is capitalizing on, he is not stupid. Also if it was not approved by NAFDAC it is considered illegal like any other fake product i n society. Even water has NAFDAC number

Thedon12:
I mentioned the relevant law, is under the protection acts, is it because Nigerians do not sue their churches for this kind of things, you think is not covered under the Nigeria law. This is 100% legal.

The consumer protection laws don't apply to items that have to do with your religious beliefs.

If a church sells a miracle bangle to you and you excercise your faith and believe that the bangle has healing powers. If the church has committed a crime, it will also imply that you exercising faith in the bangle also committed a crime.

So if such bangle sale is a crime, you are indirectly denying people of their right to exercise their religious beliefs.

Zionmdde:

Good assuming he is saying the truth that nafdac approved it, you have no case
If you carry juju soap and go to nafdac they will run tests to ascertain that the soap is safe to use and approve it

I can produce a soap and name it spiritual soap, it's just a brand name. Has Joy soap proven that their soap gives joy? So why does spiritual soap need to prove anything.

I think you are missing the point, listen to what VDM is saying, anything nafdac approves must have the content ie all the chemicals used in producing it written on it, check your own soap. However there is nowhere it is displayed on it meaning it is not approved by NAFDAC, even pure water has NAFDAC number.

BeigJawnson:



Joy soap didn't say it will give joy... Do you get that?

By the way, if you know what they call real miracles from God, they have no formula...
Let me ask you before I go further... Are you a Christain?

Lol
Joy soap advertises joy in the use of their soap
Some even advertise flying when u use there product. So when you drink Supa commando do you fly
When you brush with close up does your teeth sparkle like they advertise?
When you Plat sporty bet do you always win like they make it look?

The little I know about miracles in the Bible more than 80% of them came with formulas. Wash in the river, strike the rock, anoint his head, mold a clay, etc

Don't ask me if I am a Christian, raise Bible points if you wish

And if I believe in the miracle water then u are joking
We are talking law here

Quest7777:


The consumer protection laws don't apply to items that have to do with your religious beliefs.

If a church sells a miracle bangle to you and you excercise your faith and believe that the bangle has healing powers. If the church has committed a crime, it will also imply that you exercising faith in the bangle also committed a crime.

So if such bangle sale is a crime, you are indirectly denying people of their right to exercise their religious beliefs.

Wrong example you used there, Bangle do not need NAFDAC number as it is not termed consumable. Water and Soap are consumable as using them can cause distress or harm

erico2k2:

I think you are missing the point, listen to what VDM is saying, anything nafdac approves must have the content ie all the chemicals used in producing it written on it, check your own soap. However there is nowhere it is displayed on it meaning it is not approved by NAFDAC, even pure water has NAFDAC number.

If nafdac really approved that soap or water then vdm has no case against jeremiah. Let him sue nafdac for failing to follow their laid out procedures

Zionmdde:

Lol
Joy soap advertises joy in the use of their soap
Some even advertise flying when u use there product. So when you drink Supa commando do you fly
When you brush with close up does your teeth sparkle like they advertise?
When you Plat sporty bet do you always win like they make it look?

The little I know about miracles in the Bible more than 80% of them came with formulas. Wash in the river, strike the rock, anoint his head, mold a clay, etc

Don't ask me if I am a Christian, raise Bible points if you wish

And if I believe in the miracle water then u are joking
We are talking law here

These ideas of yours is what the west managed to stamp out ages ago hence no one can take the pizzz.SOme like Christ embassy and the others learnt the hard way.ALl it takes is for one investigative jonalist to open ur file then you are done.This is waht VDm is doing

[quote author=femi4 post=131438415]The joke is on you
Wọn ti fi ori ẹ gba parJeremiah.
Aturu a na ako gheri
Oluku nwuru anwu
Ezi Ohia
Ogun nyukwa gi nsi n'onu dia
Otule chiwawa

Zionmdde:

If nafdac really approved that soap or water then vdm has no case against jeremiah. Let him sue nafdac for failing to follow their laid out procedures

yes you are right but watch the video again when and where he was asking for NAFDAC number, there is none.But then again if there i s NAFDAC number then its fraud cos his miracle soap and water will not need MAN approval for it to work,

NB for Christ Sake why are Nigerians and Africans so Ignorant and cant see these so called Men of God are taking you lot for a ride,whyyyyyyyy

Criminals in suit everywhere.

Zionmdde:

Lol
Joy soap advertises joy in the use of their soap
Some even advertise flying when u use there product. So when you drink Supa commando do you fly
When you brush with close up does your teeth sparkle like they advertise?
When you Plat sporty bet do you always win like they make it look?

The little I know about miracles in the Bible more than 80% of them came with formulas. Wash in the river, strike the rock, anoint his head, mold a clay, etc

Don't ask me if I am a Christian, raise Bible points if you wish

And if I believe in the miracle water then u are joking
We are talking law here

Mind you I dont play bets,

Miracles don't come with this definition of formula I am talking about...since you know about 80% miracles in the bible, please mention anywhere in the bible where one miracle was bought with money ?... And I ain't talking about law alone...

erico2k2:

These ideas of yours is what the west managed to stamp out ages ago hence no one can take the pizzz.SOme like Christ embassy and the others learnt the hard way.ALl it takes is for one investigative jonalist to open ur file then you are done.This is waht VDm is doing

Christ embassy did not learn anything. They are expanding more sef.. the west are still very religious. Trump said God's miracle saved his life and he got a thunderous applause.
Vdm has no case as long as nafdac approved the water and soap

Nobody is learning anything. Churches are still very well expanding.

erico2k2:

Wrong example you used there, Bangle do not need NAFDAC number as it is not termed consumable. Water and Soap are consumable as using them can cause distress or harm

Haba, that's just an illustration. Oya replace the bangle with Water. Some churches sell anointed water.

Do you know this law is ambiguous, I have seen where a pastor has been arrested for "obtaining by false pretense( section 419)" because of fake prophecy?

Church shouldn't be a commercial place, once you turned your church to a commercial place, the consumer protection law will be applicable.

Quest7777:


The consumer protection laws don't apply to items that have to do with your religious beliefs.

If a church sells a miracle bangle to you and you excercise your faith and believe that the bangle has healing powers. If the church has committed a crime, it will also imply that you exercising faith in the bangle also committed a crime.

So if such bangle sale is a crime, you are indirectly denying people of their right to exercise their religious beliefs.

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Keep quoting me. I am very unapologetic on what I said. Those adults in his church choose to be there and consume his products. In the eyes of the law you can't also prove the originality of anything termed "spiritual ". Because you can't also prove that you have fulfilled the terms of engagement

So in simple terms you can't cry more than the bereaved. If people feel happy going there let them continue.

But your types will never want girls to walk naked so as not to corruption your daughter. Can't you see you make no sense?

By the time they kpai you.. others will learn a lesson... be very careful how you go outside ..