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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Tinyemeka(m): 1:24pm On Aug 11
Preshyi:
Hello people, urgently need advice on this please. I received a parking charge notice from a private company for not paying for parking at a local retail store. The date of the incident was 25th May, the date of the PCN issue was 28th June and I saw the letter in my mail box on the 6th of July. Pretty sure it was sent a day or 2 before that as I regularly check my post. I have been reading up and I saw something about a 28 day/14 day rule which allows you challenge such tickets if not issued within that timeframe. I need to make sure I am reading the correct information as I am so pained I have to pay Β£60 for a Β£1 parking. Any advice will be appreciated

LOL.

Was the retail store Aldi?

I'm guessing you'd probably have responded to the matter by now. Just saw your post.

Happened to me the first time I decided to try out Aldi. Their ANPR cameras pick up the number plate of every car that comes into the parking lot. After shopping and at checkout, you're expected to scan your shopping receipt at their designated machines to notify the park management company that you had come in to shop. If you don't do that, they'd assume that you'd just come to use their parking lot for free.

Just email your shopping receipt or bank statement showing the card payment (if you haven't got the receipt) to the collections company telling them that you'd actually come to shop at the store and they'll drop the matter.

Buuuut, if you had actually gone in to use their parking lot without shopping, just ignore everything I'd said and act like you didn't see my post.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Tinyemeka(m): 1:33pm On Aug 11
Missposh:
Please why are used cars on different Facebook groups cheaper than the ones on the likes of auto trader and the models on the Facebook groups are even more recent? Is it safe to buy from such Facebook groups? How can I avoid/detect scammers?

Probably scams. Probably not.

Private owner seller on FB is likely to be cheaper because they don't have to pay for all the admin costs that autotrader and other car websites carry.

In addition, private sellers on FB market are most likely selling to dispose of the vehicle for personal reasons and so would be happy to sell at a price much cheaper than the dealers who are doing theirs for a profit and would have added their markup on top of the normal selling price of the vehicle.

To avoid falling for scams, always insist on a physical inspection and when there, ask for the vehicle's original documents to make sure registered owner's details match with those of the seller or whoever they might be representing.

If the place is too far for you, skip.

And if you request for their address to come and physically see the vehicle and they instead ask for your email address so that they can send you more pictures and details, skip again. They want to send you malicious code in the email that will grant them unauthorized access to your device.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 1:34pm On Aug 11
Lexusgs430:


Because they can abuse the benefit system...... At times, we need to commend African rulers for imbibing in its citizenry, that hustling/survival/hardworking mentality......... 😁🀣

Normally In Nigeria citizen no suppose dey work πŸ˜‚
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 1:35pm On Aug 11
deept:


Low wages/salaries. Typically immigrants will accept lower wages for same job as Brit. Then there's the benefit system, why work when i can get it for free (for work shy able bodied folks). Laziness and entitlement. Lack of incentive for productivity.

This is why sometimes I just mind my African biz.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 1:40pm On Aug 11
Cyberknight:


''Promised[/i]'', you mean. The monarch's speech is basically a wishlist until bills are drafted, passed and enrolled. Anything can happen in the interim, especially changed political priorities. wink

Lol, true. Legislated is ambitious.

It's a big step in the right direction though, wherein:

Manifesto = Wishlist aka "Take with a pinch of salt/believe at your own peril" πŸ˜‚

King's speech = Promise/ plan "You can hold us to account"
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 2:23pm On Aug 11
Treadway:
Modified @11:16am

Let me know when a Russian becomes Miss USA and vice versa ✌️
you don finish? Abi e still remain? When you finish, go and crown Chidinma as Miss SA or go find one Silondile from SA and come and crown her as Miss Nigeria in your lala-land.🀣

I agree with your one point, we definitely don't think alike, afterall our thinking and decisions are largely based off of the experiences that we've been immersed in.✌️

I don't want to make this about us hence I wouldn't deal much. Issues at stake are bigger.

The Chidinma case is still evolving and I'd let it play out.
Like her or not, it's people like her who drive the reality of the world we exist in. Every single right you enjoy today as a black man in the West was as a result of someone like her. Almost all technology including your phone was brought to life by someone who pushed boundaries. If Rishi, Kemi e.t.c listened to all the nay sayers, they wouldn't have achieved what they did. Yes, the failure rate is high but that's the price to pay for change.


I don't regret my purchases in the north. The knowledge that arose from that and income earned has proved pivotal.
You remind me of when I got a state government job in the northern state and on submitting my letter of deployment to the senior admin staff at my place of assignment, chap sat me down and started explaining how what his state did i.e giving a 'non-indegene' a 'permanent and pensionable role' cannot be replicated elsewhere. I was grateful for the opportunity but chap made it out like I was handed a life-changing opportunity. I was looking. Little did he know that I put on hold a higher paying role with a different state govt for that.18m down the line, I handed him my resignation letter to migrate. Chap was looking at the letter like it was written in Arabic. It was same impetus that made me apply for my second UK job (taking up a Β£20k government grant in the process) before starting the first and leave the first role after 5 months despite it being a huge step up from 9ja and seeing colleagues who had been there for several yrs. Funny thing is that I am currently negotiating to buy an investment property in one of the towns where a riot took place and looking to view it this week. If successful, and the new tenant has an issue with paying rent to an 'African landlord who might very well be abroad, too bad- my response would be 'next person please'.
Overall, I agree with you- we don't think alike.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 2:39pm On Aug 11
LionInZion:

If we can't call a spade a spade, and keep rigmaroling and being politically correct in the face of sheer anarchy, especially the one targeted directly at us, then I wonder where our dignity and courage lie!

All these started with verbal attacks, deliberate and coordinated misinformation in the media, an agenda to direct all blames on migrants, by the likes of Suella Braverman.

Some of us saw the imminent resultant effects. We knew it would one day lead to what we've witnessed in the past days. We shouted against it but some usual suspects here would rather shush us up and subtly guit-trip us for being a burden on the system and the natives. I remember figuratively saying then that if we allowed such narratives to go on unchecked, one day we'd have our fundamental human rights stripped from us, be told we need permissions of the natives to make love etc, and people would still defend such. But to some people, we were being irrational and unable to hold a 'balanced view'.


I cannot like your post enough.

Imagine telling Americans on the day of 9/11 something in the line of I empathise with you but you caused it. What lunacy?

Just like @Goodenoch had stressed, the last government despite gouging the most on immigrant labour in recent memory also went far lengths to denigrate immigrants. Every problem was balmed on immigrants- housing, health, insecurity, education even road traffic. That same government was paying relocation fees to nurses, paying international teachers 10k, giving grants, paying visa fees and making concessions to certain healthcare workers.
Even here we were reminded of the phantom pressure immigrants put on the NHS forgetting the NHS only exists in its current state down to the presence of immigrants. We were demonised and politicians told their minions the last poll was an 'election of immigration'. Not surprising social misfits brewed on that to point fingers.


Since the windrush arrivals, the question for Brits has never been do you want immigrants. Rather it's been, can the UK bear the brunt of low immigration?
Like I've said ample times- as immigration is the root of all evil, the UK can easily end immigration and in doing that, solve all their problems. Wages would rise like it's done in Japan etc. What I would not tolerate is a scrounger looking at me on my way to work and moaning how the reason he can't work is because I've taken his job...

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by elengine: 2:51pm On Aug 11
Good afternoon house. As the premier league is now around the corner. I want to avoid missing any action at all. Pls I need the link to IPTV and guidance on how to go about it. Please help

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:18pm On Aug 11
Goodenoch:

.....

And that is the point - the constant demonization of immigrants. The tories issued visas (on the basis of the economy's need for them, not on humanitarian grounds, to be clear), yes, but they also made it normal to attack immigrants for everything that went wrong, however unrelated. ..

If people want more immigration, they should vote for a party that promises more immigration. If they want no immigration, they should vote for one that promises that. Either way, those policies should be campaigned on and whoever wins should implement their mandate without the divisive rhetoric that inflames people and legitimizes the terrorism we've seen the past few days.

Or is it asking to not continually be everyone's whipping boys too much because we are immigrants?


Well said.
We just finished an election where the Reform promised zero migration among numerous freebies- why didn't they win?

I agree with the constant demonisation bit and that build up is the reason why many have taken issues with Zahra. She is well known for far right views but the parts I've taken her up on is subtle belittling of migrants. From quick memory,

My first contact with her here was when she mockingly 'warned' us that those who voted Brexit did not do that because they wanted Europeans to be replaced by 'brown and black' folks (her words). My response was reminding her that the stvpidity of Brexiters means nothing to me and their shortsightedness has been of good benefit to Nigerians which I welcome.

Next it was heaping struggles of the NHS on immigrants who in her words arrived with many untreated medical issues. Had to remind her that immigrants are overwhelmingly young and fit and would rarely visit their GP. Many are not even registered despite working in healthcare or paying more that their fair due via the IHS.

Next it was international students and how they are a drain. I had to educate that fees paid by international students are not only a lifeline of many universities but also subsidise local tuition fees.

Next it was how the NHS doesn't need migrants. Again had to remind her that a few years ago, the number of newly registered international doctors in a year surpassed new local doctors. Also, the government willfully stopped paying nursing students bursaries as it was cheaper to get oversee nurses.

Next was how the last government didn't know the care pathway was being abused in a bid to absolve them. Had to remind her stories were rampant in the media for years and that the home office issues every visa and should have a live tally of numbers issued and lastly why the care pathway had not been scrapped even after all the abuse.

The last one was showing hypocritical concern to developing nations who loose healthcare workers. Had to remind her that Britain donated millions of it's citizens to US/Aus/Can. I wonder when they'd ask them to return.

The next, I'd guess is how the UK would stop recruiting healthcare workers from certain nations. Again I'd say, I'm surprised it took so long.


It is such subtle insults that people noticed and came to the fore with the riots and the classic 'but' game she came with.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 4:07pm On Aug 11
jedisco:


Well said.
We just finished an election where the Reform promised zero migration among numerous freebies- why didn't they win?

I agree with the constant demonisation bit and that build up is the reason why many have taken issues with Zahra. She is well known for far right views but the parts I've taken her up on is subtle belittling of migrants. From quick memory,

My first contact with her here was when she mockingly 'warned' us that those who voted Brexit did not do that because they wanted Europeans to be replaced by 'brown and black' folks (her words). My response was reminding her that the stvpidity of Brexiters means nothing to me and their shortsightedness has been of good benefit to Nigerians which I welcome.

Next it was heaping struggles of the NHS on immigrants who in her words arrived with many untreated medical issues. Had to remind her that immigrants are overwhelmingly young and fit and would rarely visit their GP. Many are not even registered despite working in healthcare or paying more that their fair due via the IHS.

Next it was international students and how they are a drain. I had to educate that fees paid by international students are not only a lifeline of many universities but also subsidise local tuition fees.

Next it was how the NHS doesn't need migrants. Again had to remind her that a few years ago, the number of newly registered international doctors in a year surpassed new local doctors. Also, the government willfully stopped paying nursing students bursaries as it was cheaper to get oversee nurses.

Next was how the last government didn't know the care pathway was being abused in a bid to absolve them. Had to remind her stories were rampant in the media for years and that the home office issues every visa and should have a live tally of numbers issued and lastly why the care pathway had not been scrapped even after all the abuse. grin

The last one was showing hypocritical concern to developing nations who loose healthcare workers. Had to remind her that Britain donated millions of it's citizens to US/Aus/Can. I wonder when they'd ask them to return.

The next, I'd guess is how the UK would stop recruiting healthcare workers from certain nations. Again I'd say, I'm surprised it took so long.



It is such subtle insults that people noticed and came to the fore with the riots and the classic 'but' game she came with.

πŸ˜‚ that’s why when those countries start chanting anti immigration rhetorics, I just laugh. In their own eyes they have become more native than the natives they met there. Only God can forgive all their sins.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 4:45pm On Aug 11
jedisco:


Well said.
We just finished an election where the Reform promised zero migration among numerous freebies- why didn't they win?

I agree with the constant demonisation bit and that build up is the reason why many have taken issues with Zahra. She is well known for far right views but the parts I've taken her up on is subtle belittling of migrants. From quick memory,

My first contact with her here was when she mockingly 'warned' us that those who voted Brexit did not do that because they wanted Europeans to be replaced by 'brown and black' folks (her words). My response was reminding her that the stvpidity of Brexiters means nothing to me and their shortsightedness has been of good benefit to Nigerians which I welcome.

Next it was heaping struggles of the NHS on immigrants who in her words arrived with many untreated medical issues. Had to remind her that immigrants are overwhelmingly young and fit and would rarely visit their GP. Many are not even registered despite working in healthcare or paying more that their fair due via the IHS.

Next it was international students and how they are a drain. I had to educate that fees paid by international students are not only a lifeline of many universities but also subsidise local tuition fees.

Next it was how the NHS doesn't need migrants. Again had to remind her that a few years ago, the number of newly registered international doctors in a year surpassed new local doctors. Also, the government willfully stopped paying nursing students bursaries as it was cheaper to get oversee nurses.

Next was how the last government didn't know the care pathway was being abused in a bid to absolve them. Had to remind her stories were rampant in the media for years and that the home office issues every visa and should have a live tally of numbers issued and lastly why the care pathway had not been scrapped even after all the abuse.

The last one was showing hypocritical concern to developing nations who loose healthcare workers. Had to remind her that Britain donated millions of it's citizens to US/Aus/Can. I wonder when they'd ask them to return.

The next, I'd guess is how the UK would stop recruiting healthcare workers from certain nations. Again I'd say, I'm surprised it took so long.


It is such subtle insults that people noticed and came to the fore with the riots and the classic 'but' game she came with.

Blimey, a page-long post dedicated to Zahra on this day of rest πŸ˜‚

I haven't insulted immigrants - (I and pretty much every black person in the UK is a product of immigrants, whether from Windrush or more recent. I have some family members who migrated here, spent their entire careers in the NHS and retired in the NHS) - the same way that I'm sure you didn't mean to be derogatory when you've labelled Brits as benefit scroungers, work shy, racist and when you claimed that they don't go to university.

However, do I believe that recent immigration needs to be better controlled/ reduced and tightened to prevent the abuse that has been prevalent in some sectors? Absolutely yes and that's usually the core of any debate I've had.

You might get loads of likes on here because of the forum you are on (mostly an echo chamber as ReesheesuKnack called it) but trust me, your views would be more robustly challenged on a different, non-Nigerian/immigrant and more diverse platform, if you ever ventured out.

You have plenty of opinions which is great and you're perfectly entitled to them, but that doesn't make all of them right. Other truths exist whether you like it or not and it's "far-" (choose left or right) behaviour to demonise or misrepresent someone because they disagree with you, especially when it's done peacefully and is fact based.

Another fun fact you might choose to hate me for πŸ™„:
Reform came 3rd in the popular vote ahead of more established parties like the Lib Dems. I didn't vote for Reform, neither did my constituency, however it is delusional to deny that millions all over the country voted for them, for whatever reason, including many blacks and young people according to the polls.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_UK#:~:text=In%20the%20election%20it%20was,giving%20him%20a%20controlling%20majority.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 7:59pm On Aug 11
Zahra29:


Blimey, a page-long post dedicated to Zahra on this day of rest πŸ˜‚

I haven't insulted immigrants - (I and pretty much every black person in the UK is a product of immigrants, whether from Windrush or more recent. I have some family members who migrated here, spent their entire careers in the NHS and retired in the NHS) - the same way that I'm sure you didn't mean to be derogatory when you've labelled Brits as benefit scroungers, work shy, racist and when you claimed that they don't go to university.

However, do I believe that recent immigration needs to be better controlled/ reduced and tightened to prevent the abuse that has been prevalent in some sectors? Absolutely yes and that's usually the core of any debate I've had.

You might get loads of likes on here because of the forum you are on (mostly an echo chamber as ReesheesuKnack called it) but trust me, your views would be more robustly challenged on a different, non-Nigerian/immigrant and more diverse platform, if you ever ventured out.


At the bolded, reading the comments section on a Daily Telegraph article on any given day should suffice. wink
Since hostilities have been renewed, this article in the good old Guardian is instructive. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/10/there-can-be-no-excuses-the-uk-riots-were-violent-racism-fomented-by-populism

The Guardian is what it is, the bane of the right and the delight of the left and all that, but I sometimes agree with Telegraph or Times articles, and I do think this article does really encapsulate what happened over the last week well.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:12pm On Aug 11
Cyberknight:


At the bolded, reading the comments section on a Daily Telegraph article on any given day should suffice. wink
Since hostilities have been renewed, this article in the good old Guardian is instructive. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/10/there-can-be-no-excuses-the-uk-riots-were-violent-racism-fomented-by-populism

The Guardian is what it is, the bane of the right and the delight of the left and all that, but I sometimes agree with Telegraph or Times articles, and I do think this article does really encapsulate what happened over the last week well.

Since hostilities have been renewed

Not on my end oh lol, but it's apparently still hunting season for some. They'll be alright 😊

Lol @ the bolded. I never venture onto DT without having my Weetabix first lol - some of their views/comments can be brutal. But sometimes quite reasoned and balanced. I used to only read the Guardian but similar to you, now sometimes I'll agree with the Guardian , other times I think the perspective of the DT or another outlet is more sensible/accurate. It depends.

Thanks for the link. Very well written article, not surprising coming from Olusoga. Such an articulate and accomplished historian - he's a real asset to the black community. I've enjoyed some of the documentaries he's produced around the British slave empire and BLM.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:17pm On Aug 11
@BeckyB1

Hi Becky, I'm really sorry, I'm not able to retrieve your mail for some reason - that mailbox is a junk one and a bit all over the place.

When you see this could you please drop your email here and I'll send you a message directly. I'll be on the look out so you can delete it as soon as I've grabbed it if that's okay x

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by elengine: 9:36pm On Aug 11
@Oga Lexusgs430 and others. Please I need your response



elengine:
Good
afternoon house. As the premier league is now around the corner. I want to avoid missing any action at all. Pls I need the link to IPTV and guidance on how to go about it. Please help
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by BeckyB1(f): 9:38pm On Aug 11
Thank you very much πŸ™πŸ½

Zahra29:
@BeckyB1

Hi Becky, I'm really sorry, I'm not able to retrieve your mail for some reason - that mailbox is a junk one and a bit all over the place.

When you see this could you please drop your email here and I'll send you a message directly. I'll be on the look out so you can delete it as soon as I've grabbed it if that's okay x
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:13pm On Aug 11
Zahra29:
@BeckyB1

Hi Becky, I'm really sorry, I'm not able to retrieve your mail for some reason - that mailbox is a junk one and a bit all over the place.

When you see this could you please drop your email here and I'll send you a message directly. I'll be on the look out so you can delete it as soon as I've grabbed it if that's okay x

@BeckyB1

Got it thanks 😊 Please delete x

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 10:30pm On Aug 11
This group is certainly not an echochamber.

During the election, we had voters from all over the Overton window and beyond .Greens,Labour,Liberal Democrats, tories even reform UK were all represented.

That is not typical of an echochamber.
We just refuse to accept the view that attempting to burn people alive is justified no matter the level of provocation,poverty and deprivation.

That is a far right argument and if you are still making that argument,then you may label yourself far right with my full blessing.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by LionInZion: 11:56pm On Aug 11
jedisco:


I cannot like your post enough.

Imagine telling Americans on the day of 9/11 something in the line of I empathise with you but you caused it. What lunacy?

Just like @Goodenoch had stressed, the last government despite gouging the most on immigrant labour in recent memory also went far lengths to denigrate immigrants. Every problem was balmed on immigrants- housing, health, insecurity, education even road traffic. That same government was paying relocation fees to nurses, paying international teachers 10k, giving grants, paying visa fees and making concessions to certain healthcare workers.
Even here we were reminded of the phantom pressure immigrants put on the NHS forgetting the NHS only exists in its current state down to the presence of immigrants. We were demonised and politicians told their minions the last poll was an 'election of immigration'. Not surprising social misfits brewed on that to point fingers.


Since the windrush arrivals, the question for Brits has never been do you want immigrants. Rather it's been, can the UK bear the brunt of low immigration?
Like I've said ample times- as immigration is the root of all evil, the UK can easily end immigration and in doing that, solve all their problems. Wages would rise like it's done in Japan etc. What I would not tolerate is a scrounger looking at me on my way to work and moaning how the reason he can't work is because I've taken his job...

That is my concern exactly. We are where we are today as a result of coordinated misinformation spread. They sold the parastic, freeload migrants narrative for so long. The hooligans bought into it and were ready to unleash terror on anyone who doesn't look like them. If anything must be blamed for the riot, it should be falsehoods that were allowed to go on for too long and how some people who should know better aided and abetted it.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 6:43am
Good article!!

I stumbled upon this while reading the article which captured my view

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/11/extremism-in-all-its-forms-has-been-ignored-for-too-long-by-british-politicians

While I felt threatened by the far right and we have dwelt so much on them and glad to see that the justice system is dealing with them. However, I was equally afraid of the MDL that made news in Birmingham. They brought out knives and dagger and were encouraging women to be raped. I don't see this reaction as a counter protest but as another extremism hijacking this sad event to showcase their views.

How do we differentiate far right women?

For both parties, innocent people will be victims.

I just saw us "Blacks" as pawns in the battles of 2 extremists.

The British intelligence and politicians need to take their stands against all forms of extremism.

Cyberknight:


At the bolded, reading the comments section on a Daily Telegraph article on any given day should suffice. wink
Since hostilities have been renewed, this article in the good old Guardian is instructive. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/10/there-can-be-no-excuses-the-uk-riots-were-violent-racism-fomented-by-populism

The Guardian is what it is, the bane of the right and the delight of the left and all that, but I sometimes agree with Telegraph or Times articles, and I do think this article does really encapsulate what happened over the last week well.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:52am
missjekyll:


We just refuse to accept the view that attempting to burn people alive is justified no matter the level of provocation,poverty and deprivation.

That is a far right argument and if you are still making that argument,then you may label yourself far right with my full blessing.

Good morning.

I presume you have evidence of these posts that are justifying and supporting the burning alive of people, no matter the reason?

If so, then I advise you to report to the police immediately. It's a serious offence and the police is also rightly cracking down on online instigators of violence and hate crime.

If not, then I advise you to stop with the malicious, false accusations.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 9:01am
dupyshoo:
Good article!!

I stumbled upon this while reading the article which captured my view

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/11/extremism-in-all-its-forms-has-been-ignored-for-too-long-by-british-politicians

While I felt threatened by the far right and we have dwelt so much on them and glad to see that the justice system is dealing with them. However, I was equally afraid of the MDL that made news in Birmingham. They brought out knives and dagger and were encouraging women to be raped. I don't see this reaction as a counter protest but as another extremism hijacking this sad event to showcase their views.

How do we differentiate far right women?

For both parties, innocent people will be victims.

I just saw us "Blacks" as pawns in the battles of 2 extremists.

The British intelligence and politicians need to take their stands against all forms of extremism.


Do you have a source for MDL 'encouraging women to be raped'?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 9:07am
I saw the videos and live in Birmingham. A friend was caught in the whole drama. So I am certain.
Goodenoch:


Do you have a source for MDL 'encouraging women to be raped'?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by willyede(m): 9:15am
jedisco:


Well said.
We just finished an election where the Reform promised zero migration among numerous freebies- why didn't they win?

I agree with the constant demonisation bit and that build up is the reason why many have taken issues with Zahra. She is well known for far right views but the parts I've taken her up on is subtle belittling of migrants. From quick memory,

My first contact with her here was when she mockingly 'warned' us that those who voted Brexit did not do that because they wanted Europeans to be replaced by 'brown and black' folks (her words). My response was reminding her that the stvpidity of Brexiters means nothing to me and their shortsightedness has been of good benefit to Nigerians which I welcome.

Next it was heaping struggles of the NHS on immigrants who in her words arrived with many untreated medical issues. Had to remind her that immigrants are overwhelmingly young and fit and would rarely visit their GP. Many are not even registered despite working in healthcare or paying more that their fair due via the IHS.

Next it was international students and how they are a drain. I had to educate that fees paid by international students are not only a lifeline of many universities but also subsidise local tuition fees.

Next it was how the NHS doesn't need migrants. Again had to remind her that a few years ago, the number of newly registered international doctors in a year surpassed new local doctors. Also, the government willfully stopped paying nursing students bursaries as it was cheaper to get oversee nurses.

Next was how the last government didn't know the care pathway was being abused in a bid to absolve them. Had to remind her stories were rampant in the media for years and that the home office issues every visa and should have a live tally of numbers issued and lastly why the care pathway had not been scrapped even after all the abuse.

The last one was showing hypocritical concern to developing nations who loose healthcare workers. Had to remind her that Britain donated millions of it's citizens to US/Aus/Can. I wonder when they'd ask them to return.

The next, I'd guess is how the UK would stop recruiting healthcare workers from certain nations. Again I'd say, I'm surprised it took so long.


It is such subtle insults that people noticed and came to the fore with the riots and the classic 'but' game she came with.

Am glad someone is taking this up....I always read his or her negative prints here and still see her advising folks here and this really got me confused like which side are you on. Thanks for laying this out. Na this kind i dey mute for twitter always negative towards Immigrant
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 9:22am
dupyshoo:
I saw the videos and live in Birmingham. A friend was caught in the whole drama. So I am certain.

Possible to share the video link? I'm actually surprised to hear this, if its true then they should be arrested as well
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 9:28am
dupyshoo:
I saw the videos and live in Birmingham. A friend was caught in the whole drama. So I am certain.

Can you please share the videos or any reference at all?

And maybe some info on how you're definite the people involved were part of the Muslim Defence League?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 9:31am
They were all wearing masks. Sky news even showed some of it but were forced to stop it because of the rude and racist remarks that were said by them.

https://news.sky.com/video/birmingham-protesters-surround-sky-correspondent-and-slash-tyre-amid-unrest-13191564

They wanted the to slash tyres. I saw videos of daggers and big knives
justwise:


Possible to share the video link? I'm actually surprised to hear this, if its true then they should be arrested as well
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 10:11am
dupyshoo:
They were all wearing masks. Sky news even showed some of it but were forced to stop it because of the rude and racist remarks that were said by them.

https://news.sky.com/video/birmingham-protesters-surround-sky-correspondent-and-slash-tyre-amid-unrest-13191564

They wanted the to slash tyres. I saw videos of daggers and big knives

And you know they are MDL members because...?

As someone said on this thread earlier, if some of you spend any more time on the fence, you'll run a real risk of becoming bricks.

The summary of your contribution to this whole discussion has been just the kind of 'bothsideism' Olusoga described in his article. From two weeks ago when these attacks started, you said not one thing in condemnation even as people here were describing various attacks and threats to their lives. Your first related post was almost two weeks later when you came with your 'gotcha!' news that 'some of the far left can be violent too' when you posted the link to that councilor inciting violence. The actual violence didn't warrant a mention. Today you have come with 'news' of MDL (specifically) encouraging women to be raped and when asked for evidence your answer is nothing related to what you actually claimed but we should take your word for it because you live in Birmingham.

Lol. Na wah.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 10:17am
Do you live in Birmingham?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/06/uk-riots-birmingham-pubgoer-attacked-masked-men/

Here is one. There are loads of others.

Goodenoch:


Can you please share the videos or any reference at all?

And maybe some info on how you're definite the people involved were part of the Muslim Defence League?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 10:18am
I am working. Will respond after work.

Goodenoch:


And you know they are MDL members because...?

As someone said on this thread earlier, if some of you spend any more time on the fence, you'll run a real risk of becoming bricks.

The summary of your contribution to this whole discussion has been just the kind of 'bothsideism' Olusoga described in his article. From two weeks ago when these attacks started, you said not one thing in condemnation even as people here were describing various attacks and threats to their lives. Your first related post was almost two weeks later when you came with your 'gotcha!' news that 'some of the far left can be violent too' when you posted the link to that councilor inciting violence. The actual violence didn't warrant a mention. Today you have come with 'news' of MDL (specifically) encouraging women to be raped and when asked for evidence your answer is nothing related to what you actually claimed but we should take your word for it because you live in Birmingham.

Lol. Na wah.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by elengine: 11:18am
Regex:


Omo... My own will expire in December. I deh find new iptv provider... You fit suggest the best? Cause I wasn't able to watch the champion league on this one.

@Reges and Lexusgs430. How do I go about this. Abeg make una send me a private message
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Regex: 11:39am
elengine:


@Reges and Lexusgs430. How do I go about this. Abeg make una send me a private message

I will put my number on my signature. Just message me and I will put you through.

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