Lurker4Long:
SAAF Major "Fido" Pietersen celebrating 5000 hours on the Oryx, with a flight in Mozambique. Poor quality pics cos stills taken from video.

1/2...

Exnavyboy62:


Don’t you think the oryx helos deserve replacement as at this period. It’s been in active service for 40 years plus.
I’ve been thinking maybe second hand Mil Mi 17s with life extension upgrades from India. It should be an easy buy since both S.A and India have strong diplomatic ties. Maintenance won’t be a problem, Denel Aviation can take care of that. And if fortunate enough, the SAAF can acquire a Mil Mi 17 variant that can serve as both a troop carrier and combat gunship. There won’t be concerns about the platform being shot at with anti-air guns when deployed in Mozambique, cause the Mil Mi 17 has the means to fight back and repel.
I know I’m not Armscor, I just have a bad habit of fantasizing about weapons a lot. But what do you think

Lurker4Long:


1) The Oryx came into service in 1993, 30 years ago;
2) Project Drummer in 2010 upgraded the Oryx by a decade; aircraft extended to 2030;
3) Oryx has always been superior to MI-17 and Puma in terms of performance;
4) "Hot and High" has always been the geographical requirement in SA, meaning whatever chopper we acquire has to comply.

AskiaHarem:


I’m not going to lie Africans/Blacks worshipping Far-Right/Left Western groups and individuals via Trump, Hillary etc; hanging onto them like some messiah saviors is some of the most braindead cringiest sh1t in the history of our people. These people range from not giving a sh1t about us to out right hating us openly yet of some africans still worship them. Africans can come off really hopeless and lost cause sometimes.

Must be a bleeped up combination of Stockholm Syndrome, dehumanization, and indoctrination.

If this was a trade thing I understand that angle; but any African who believe these people to be your friends your a dangerous set of clowns to the existence of our people.

NTSA:
Although I don't think much progress will happen in restoring Haiti ,our officers biggest win will be gaining experience in urban warfare.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJO6SGK28Pg?si=dDm_DkHptkL5dl6j

NTSA:
Although I don't think much progress will happen in restoring Haiti ,our officers biggest win will be gaining experience in urban warfare.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJO6SGK28Pg?si=dDm_DkHptkL5dl6j

Fidha254:

My thinking is they should also switch to (intelligence led) guerrilla tactics, have a squads of elite recce units numbering like 100 members.
Their sole purpose would be to ambush, raid and target gang leaders or large gatherings of gang members preferably in the middle of the night where they would have tactical advantage and then leave right away.

400 police officers is to few a number , therefore, guarding buildings, installations and VIPs should be left to Haitians, MSS sole purpose should be going after gangs. Then the elite unit I talked about should only target high ranking gang members... Then their should be a separate team of detectives and intelligence agents who are looking into disrupting smuggling routes of weapons and drugs from US and other countries.

Raeblack:

how is the oryx superior to the Mi17

Faithful007:


Just to clarify. I don't hate them.I just dislike the bigotry of the far-right. For the Dems, I have issues with the economic polices of the extreme groups among them.

Do they hate Africans? I don't believe so. Do they care about Nigeria? They do just as much as people from Nigeria care about Chile.

Exnavyboy62:


Don’t you think the oryx helos deserve replacement as at this period. It’s been in active service for 40 years plus.
I’ve been thinking maybe second hand Mil Mi 17s with life extension upgrades from India. It should be an easy buy since both S.A and India have strong diplomatic ties. Maintenance won’t be a problem, Denel Aviation can take care of that. And if fortunate enough, the SAAF can acquire a Mil Mi 17 variant that can serve as both a troop carrier and combat gunship. There won’t be concerns about the platform being shot at with anti-air guns when deployed in Mozambique, cause the Mil Mi 17 has the means to fight back and repel.
I know I’m not Armscor, I just have a bad habit of fantasizing about weapons a lot. But what do you think

Raeblack:

how is the oryx superior to the Mi17

Fidha254:

My thinking is they should also switch to (intelligence led) guerrilla tactics, have a squads of elite recce units numbering like 100 members.
Their sole purpose would be to ambush, raid and target gang leaders or large gatherings of gang members preferably in the middle of the night where they would have tactical advantage and then leave right away.

400 police officers is to few a number , therefore, guarding buildings, installations and VIPs should be left to Haitians, MSS sole purpose should be going after gangs. Then the elite unit I talked about should only target high ranking gang members... Then there should be a separate team of detectives and intelligence agents who are looking into disrupting smuggling routes of weapons and drugs from US and other countries.

Raeblack:

how is the oryx superior to the Mi17

GreenandGold:


60% of SA is a gigantic inland plateau, the air is thin, European helicopters choke... Whatever "altitude" and "lift abilities" the Mi17 has on paper, just subtract it by a few dozen points.

Commander Kenya Army Lieutenant General David Tarus, visited Kenya Defence Forces Quick Reaction Force (KEN QRF 4) troops training at Kangaita Camp in Mt. Kenya, Nanyuki.

The troops are conducting pre-deployment training as they prepare for deployment to DRC

Faithful007:


Just to clarify. I don't hate them. I just dislike the bigotry of the far-right. For the Dems, I have issues with the economic polices of the extreme groups among them.

Do they hate Africans? I don't believe so. Do they care about Nigeria? They do just as much as people from Nigeria care about Chile.

Faithful007:


Just to add.

India only outranks SA in areas where her disproportionately large population gives her the advantage.

SA far outranks India in:

Nominal GDP per capita
PPP per capita
GDP-PPP per capita
Electricity generation per Capita
Government spending per capita
Average Personal income.
Minimum wage.

Take note @Goel

jl115:
Have you seen the Left? I'm mean what used to be far left is now just normal for the Dems

Goel:

Though replying a bit late since I barely login this nonsensical forum; did you even bother to read all and cross check what you had to response?

Nobody is talking about India's disproportionate size here.

SA with a Gini of 63.8 with IHDI and median income far behind India despite having 60% more GDP per capita than India

Bacteria8:
Off topic:

The ongoing Miss SA controversy especially on Twitter has helped me understand the psychological makeup of an average South African...even for those on this nice thread.

God forbid I ever argue with these people again

Faithful007:


Not sure about that. Examples?