MaxInDHouse:


Sand2022 who started this thread claims he is a JW PIMO meaning he still worship with Jehovah's Witnesses where they teach that TRINITY isn't Biblical yet remain in their midst claiming he is Physically In but Mentally Out of Jehovah's Witnesses organization.

So the question is if he's so sure that TRINITY is biblical what is he still doing among Jehovah's Witnesses who kicked against it? Psalms 1:1

Well let me help you out, he is lying to his own soul no servant of God knows where the truth is being preached yet continues worshiping with God's enemies!

did you not hear him say that he was a JW before?

The Trinity in JW is Jehovah, Jesus and the Organisation a.k.a The Governing body. This is only implemented in baptism. However, the Hierarchy is scattered. Starting from the highest rank to lowest:

Jehovah
Governing body / The Watchtower Society
Jesus
Holy Spirit

The last two mentioned above are just there for marketing purposes to make them look “Christian” . The first two are the most important in the Cult.

Courz:


Yes I remember their blunder they made in the book about Trinity. Now that publication is old light and no longer used for preaching again. They have discarded it. They like to think they understand the Trinity but they don't.

What I don't understand is that if they really are against the Trinity, then why is It in their Bible? Why is It that they replaced the Holy Spirit in their baptism? The Trinity in JW is Jehovah, Jesus and the Organisation a.k.a the Governing body. Their Governing body replaced the Holy Spirit because they want as much authority over JWs as God and Jesus. So I ask, is this not a different version of the Trinity in their religion? You can't criticise their organisation because they have authority over them. This is why their doctrines are from one error to another. How can you prefer to be inspired by mere humans like you instead of the Holy Spirit? Even Jesus himself has no authority in their Cult as much as their Governing body.

I'm very sure they are really against the Trinity even when it's evident that they don't understand it.

They perverted every text in the Bible that has to do with Sovereignty of Jesus Christ.

In fact, the most non debatable verse like John 5:23 "so that everyone will honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Anyone who does not honor the Son is certainly not honoring the Father who sent him."

This is a clear and straight forward text where Jesus is demanding equality with the Father. I have given this verse to MetaAI, ChatGPT e.t.c all came with the same result.

Kingsempires:
did you not hear him say that he was a JW before?

He must lie to save his face and the face of his religious organization

Kingsempires:
did you not hear him say that he was a JW before?

He is a JW PIMO. That is someone who still attends JW but does not agree with the beliefs and practises. There are many like him in JW scattered around the World. If you go to EXJW Reddit forum, you will see plenty of them there. They are also many in The Bethel headquarters in all countries where JWS are.

MaxInDHouse:


There are many angels who has authority in heaven only one controls all of them that is Michael the archangel.

Jehovah don't control angels

Kingsempires:
did you not hear him say that he was a JW before?

NO! He is still WORSHIPING with Jehovah's Witnesses, he is not worshiping with those who believe in TRINITY!

Courz:
The Trinity in JW is Jehovah, Jesus and the Organisation a.k.a The Governing body. This is only implemented in baptism. However, the Hierarchy is scattered. Starting from the highest rank to lowest:

Jehovah
Governing body / The Watchtower Society
Jesus
Holy Spirit

The last two mentioned above are just there for marketing purposes to make them look “Christian” . The first two are the most important in the Cult.

so how those JW do their baptism

MaxInDHouse:


NO! He is still WORSHIPING with Jehovah's Witnesses, he is not worshiping with those who believe in TRINITY!

that means he is a spy in your organization

Emusan:


I'm glad you noticed the singularity which is A THRONE and not THRONES.

Even if two are seated on a throne, I don't want to imagine how; what is said of the third person?

Emusan:


You're taking that one serious.

Remember in one thread he told you boldly that "Michael is the ONLY archangel"

When I saw that thread, I present the book of Daniel 10:13 to him which says "But for twenty-one days the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia blocked my way. Then Michael, one of the archangels, came to help me, and I left him there with the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia."

You know the excuse he gave?

He said, that was the preconceived whatever of the translator....

I then ask him, what is the Hebrew meaning of the word used in Daniel CHIEF PRINCES? As I'm typing now, he has not replied.

Archangel comprises two words

Arch / angel
Arch itself means CHIEF

Their own NWT says....

But the prince of the royal realm of Persia stood in opposition to me for days. But then Miʹcha·el,*one of the foremost princes,* came to help me; and I remained there beside the kings of Persia.

The * in front of the princes they wrote.....

Or “a prince of the first rank."

Is that not saying there are prince out of many princes that are of the first rank.

Emusan:


I'm very sure they are really against the Trinity even when it's evident that they don't understand it.

They perverted every text in the Bible that has to do with Sovereignty of Jesus Christ.

In fact, the most non debatable verse like John 5:23 "so that everyone will honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Anyone who does not honor the Son is certainly not honoring the Father who sent him."

This is a clear and straight forward text where Jesus is demanding equality with the Father. I have given this verse to MetaAI, ChatGPT e.t.c all came with the same result.

Thank you for quoting this verse. There is another that talks about the glory of God given to Jesus. There are also verses talking about Jesus being worshipped and they went to scatter those verses in their Bible. At this point, they can only be called Antichrist because this hatred for Jesus is too much.

Kingsempires:
that means he is a spy in your organization

Looool

Petalss:
Even if two are seated on a throne, I don't want to imagine how

Which is not even possible!

what is said of the third person

The third person is with Believers already!

Kingsempires:
so how those JW do their baptism

They baptise in the name of Jehovah, and of Jesus and of the organisation a.k.a their Governing body. This is their own Trinity.

Emusan:


Which is not even possible!



The third person is with Believers already!

simple

Courz:


He is a JW PIMO. That is someone who still attends JW but does not agree with the beliefs and practises. There are many like him in JW scattered around the World. If you go to EXJW Reddit forum, you will see plenty of them there. They are also many in The Bethel headquarters in all countries where JWS are.

The ones that give their PIMI members serious worry on nairaland who exposes those boasting as PIMI as apostates


Comedy everywhere

Courz:


They baptise in the name of Jehovah, and of Jesus and of the organisation a.k.a their Governing body. This is their own Trinity.

WOW I have not had of that before

Courz:
The Trinity in JW is Jehovah, Jesus and the Organisation a.k.a The Governing body. This is only implemented in baptism. However, the Hierarchy is scattered. Starting from the highest rank to lowest:

Jehovah
Governing body / The Watchtower Society
Jesus
Holy Spirit

The last two mentioned above are just there for marketing purposes to make them look “Christian” . The first two are the most important in the Cult.

Their trinity they can't deny.... Jehovah and Jesus trust the Governing Body completely

Kingsempires:
that means he is a spy in your organization

So someone could be a spy among God's enemies WORSHIPING with them shey?

Kingsempires:
WOW I have not had of that before

Your baptism is not complete until you say yes to the question that it identifies you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization aka governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses the 9 men housed in USA

Kingsempires:
that means he is a spy in your organization

Hahahahahahaha

The Op is not a spy o. But They have spies leaking their secrets even in their Bethel headquarters to ExJWs on Reddit. Some spies are even Elders in their congregation. If you click on my profile and check my threads you will see a thread about one of their spies leaking their secrets and they threatening him. He has taken them to court.

achorladey:


The ones that give their PIMI members serious worry on nairaland who exposes these one boasting as PIMI as apostates


Comedy everywhere

Hahahahaha. Yes o. More JWS are coming out now to express their doubts in Watchtower. I’m loving it. 😁😁

Kingsempires:
WOW I have not had of that before

As a JW, You will have to give yourself some rest from the brainwashing in order to know that there is a Trinity in JW. Thats what happened to the poster of this thread. Now ask them to show where such baptism exists in the Bible, they will run away.

achorladey:


Their trinity they can't deny.... Jehovah and Jesus trust the Governing Body completely

Exactly. 😁😁😁😁😁

Courz:


Exactly. 😁😁😁😁😁

That's why they can boldly say their governing body are voice of Jesus Christ and therefore as good as saying they are god (John 1:1)

achorladey:


That's why they can boldly say their governing body are voice of Jesus Christ and therefore as good as saying they are god (John 1:1)

And thats also why they say they are substitutes to Jesus Christ. This is not a Christian religion at all. They should be called Watchtower witnesses.

achorladey:


Your baptism is not complete until you say yes to the question that it identifies you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization aka governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses the 9 men housed in USA

Gbam! They take an oath during baptism. Very culty. ☹️

Courz:


And thats also why they say they are substitutes to Jesus Christ. This is not a Christian religion at all. They should be called Watchtower witnesses.

They study watchtower every Sunday for a reason

It is called Watchtower study

achorladey:


They study watchtower every Sunday for a reason

It is called Watchtower study

Gbam! You got it. 😁😁😁

Courz:



Hahahahahahaha

The Op is not a spy o. But They have spies leaking their secrets even in their Bethel headquarters to ExJWs on Reddit. Some spies are even Elders in their congregation. If you click on my profile and check my threads you will see a thread about one of their spies leaking their secrets and they threatening him. He has taken them to court.

but you saw what Oga maxinDhouse said about the person that made this thread

achorladey:


Jehovah don't control angels

No! Only Michael does!

Which means Michael and Jehovah are on the same level