Leemzyy:
Biko i'm a muslimah

good to know

2Radii:
Lol
Well he might be right with his view is is exclusive to him.

The tin is, Those village orthodox churches use to give account of how they received and spent the church money/donations at the end of every year...in my hometown that is the norms actually so I was used to it before I left for the cities.

It was when I got to lagos I saw that there also used to be different churches with different ideas, management system and extortion techniques in the name of collecting dues and gifts.

Some of the churches are direct clones of the old orthodox churches we were used to in the village, same mode of service and all but the only difference is the way they collect money. These clones churches are hungrier for money more than a responsible family man. And the funny thing is that nothing like accountability or reports on how the money was spent.
If u dare ask the pastors and some followfollow church members will blackmail u in front of other listening ears into believing u re a devil, antichrist, antipastor and a person who is not filled with the holy spirit. That time u need deliverance

Laslas a no kuku dey attend church again

Four square churches do have AGMM

Keep it to yourself don't discourage others

oloriooko:
read my post again then read yours and make appropriate adjustment

well-worn. A second read doesn't suffice. You said what you said and it came out the way it did.

Hmmm!! What about if they use mosques instead? What will happen to the GDP then. I love listening to new ideas

Kaczynski:
Demolish all churches in the south and convert those buildings to vocational rehabilitation centers


See as naija GDP skyrockets instantly

damosky12:
Is it an inferiority complex of the black man or just an outright "village boy" mentality that makes them disparage anything Nigeria at the slightest opportunity when they just land US or Europe.

While it's reasonable to give accounts for how money is spent anywhere, a church is not Biblically compelled to do so. The Church is built on trust. There are many risks and sacrifices that pastors would take for church members sef that based solely on nothing else but trust.

TRUST is the bane of the assembly of the local church. Trust for God and His men. So giving account is good. But I don't need my pastor to give account to me when I give in the church. That's the church where I'm being blessed. My giving there is in thanksgiving to God and in response to my trust for HIM and the men He has chosen to lead me.

Mind you, there are hundreds of churches in Nigeria that do exactly what he's exalting "oyibo" for. Many of the orthodox churches and even some pentecostals.

idiot

Baba Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi and co will not like dis

damosky12:
Is it an inferiority complex of the black man or just an outright "village boy" mentality that makes them disparage anything Nigeria at the slightest opportunity when they just land US or Europe.

While it's reasonable to give accounts for how money is spent anywhere, a church is not Biblically compelled to do so. The Church is built on trust. There are many risks and sacrifices that pastors would take for church members sef that based solely on nothing else but trust.

TRUST is the bane of the assembly of the local church. Trust for God and His men. So giving account is good. But I don't need my pastor to give account to me when I give in the church. That's the church where I'm being blessed. My giving there is in thanksgiving to God and in response to my trust for HIM and the men He has chosen to lead me.

Mind you, there are hundreds of churches in Nigeria that do exactly what he's exalting "oyibo" for. Many of the orthodox churches and even some pentecostals.

you are a Nigerian pastor 100%🤣🤣

Leemzyy:
I wouldnt say anything 4 peace to reign

my sister say whatever in your mind let hear your view on this.🤣🤣😅🤣😅

take out time and read again before passing your judgement

Lezzlie:
well-worn. A second read doesn't suffice. You said what you said and it came out the way it did.

malvisguy212:
say something about politics, some will believe and some will not. say something about sports, some will believe and some will not. but say something about the church or pastors. everybody will believe without even confirming the authenticity of the news.... I'm not defending pastors , there are lots of fake pastors as well as fake politicians. but the morden world seems to have one goal towards the church . HATE!!! , that is why they can unite when it's comes to criticize the church.

Shetap. Stop wailing.

na UK only Jesus Christ de abi❓❓

malvisguy212:
say something about politics, some will believe and some will not. say something about sports, some will believe and some will not. but say something about the church or pastors. everybody will believe without even confirming the authenticity of the news.... I'm not defending pastors , there are lots of fake pastors as well as fake politicians. but the morden world seems to have one goal towards the church . HATE!!! , that is why they can unite when it's comes to criticize the church.

If chuch has been leaving above board, they wouldnt have been subjected to ridicules as we are withnessing now.

Wen the GOs would be saying something and be doing diffrent things, why wont they be ridiculed by all and sundry?

You know the devil most times appear like an angel of light in order to deceive. You must be as wise as the serpent too and highly discerning (which reading the word and prayers will help you with)
Going to church where smoking isn't frowned at is a no no. You know what smoking does, no Christian should practice habits that cause harm, or be bound to addictions. Your life should be under the control of God-The Monarch. He can't share you with any other thing that controls you.
We shouldn't dislike/hate our own just because we tasted something better. As Christians if you discover a better method, you are supposed to share with your brothers and let them know this better way, not to dissociate urself from them, just as the op is saying. If God gives you a talent/revelation/word of knowledge, don't dig a hole and bury it. Use it to prosper the kingdom.

MatrixCircle:
I went to a church I attend in the UK I saw an area of the church designated "smoking zone" if you want smoke no smoke inside church go near smoke finish and come back same church they will ask those in need will be supported, nobody ask you of tithes, no Pastor is threatening you with a curse if you no bring money to give. After church service meals and snacks are already for members if you wish go and eat and network with other members.

Omo na this be church oo

In naija if you smoke na lucifer son you be for smoking new church . Papa G.O. , the one that led million man match against Goodluck Jonathan go don tag you as lucifer

victory36:
you are a Nigerian pastor 100%🤣🤣

🤣 How did you know? Did I talk like a pastor?

oloriooko:
OP FYI all churches are registered as NGO which must be audited and account for every penny received and spent to the govt. The letter you received detailing their account are evidences for audit report. And as an NGO you are non profit and mandated to run programs helping the needy and poor. The govt closely monitors your activities and expects the church to keep to all stipulated rules and regulations guiding NGOs.
Check the whole of UK how many churches do you see boasting of massive buildings except the very old orthodox churches
So church in the UK is a helping non profit group.

It is not even only churches that renders account. HMRC that collect taxes send you how much tax was raised from you and how it was spent . They do this every year.

Nigerian churches are places where con men become millionaires overnight.

Leemzyy:
I wouldnt say anything 4 peace to reign

Say it, anything naija version is a scam. List them : Church, Democracy, Subsidy, etc

Work of God will still continue without you

Work of God will still continue without you and your likes

Whois:
Nigeria pastors be like

I've witnessed something synonymous to what is in this picture live before, didn't bother to go back sha. I ran for my life, my God is not a magician.

femi4:
Say it, anything naija version is a scam. List them : Church, Democracy, Subsidy, etc

Exactly my mind

hisgrace090:
I must make it mentality is the problem with most Nigerian and churches in Africa at large.
Competition for who rich pass among our pastors going on in the church today is a terrible omen.

it has more to do with our mentality and traditions than competition in my opinion.
In our African tradition, the Chief priest ( who is now being replaced by the pastors, clergymen) were viewed as unquestionable people who have a direct link with the gods, they act as the mouthpiece of the gods and whatever they demanded from the people must be met without any questions, to question them would be to question the gods that they represented.

When Christianity came to Africa, it replaced the traditional gods with Jehovah and the chief priests with the clergymen/pastors/ men of God but it couldn't replace our mentality and understanding of how we believe the cosmos worked.

That's why people see the pastors as something they aren't, something of like a demi god that must never be questioned or criticise and the pastors themselves knowing the way the African mind works has taken advantage of it and uses botched scriptural interpretations to emotionally and spiritually blackmail the people into an almost servitude state. Their most go-to scripture saying as a defence against criticism is "touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm".

Kaczynski:
Demolish all churches in the south and convert those buildings to vocational rehabilitation centers


See as naija GDP skyrockets instantly

And what happens to the Mosques in the North.?

Back home in Naija, they will tell you it is 'heresy'to ask how the tithes are being spent. They will tell you that they should be left to God.
Very gullible followership.

alimiadedayo1:
GOD bless you, you just said what is on my mind..They don't care and they are only looking for an avenue to express their hatred and consignment against church

And why should the church be scared of Hate and consignment? The church which is the body of Christ was meant to be hated by the world even though it loves the world. Didn't Christ tell his disciples that the world will hate and despise them just as it has hated and despised Him?

Christ from the day he came into the world and all throughout his ministration, death and resurrection was hated by the world. So those who follow his footsteps should also expect to be hated just as He was hated.

Christ was crucified because of that hate
His Disciples/Apostles were crucified because they followed his footsteps and preached his gospel.

Following the steps of Christ is NOT a jamboree where you expect to be completely loved and accepted by All. No it's not and Christians should try to remember that.

For security reasons, I would not even advise any pastor to disclose how the money the church has is being sourced and spent.

Before u hear say dem don kidnap or rob pastor and hin congregation.

Unfortunately too, the church of Nigeria is a reflection of the society. I said unfortunately because it's supposed to be the other way around.

This is not to say that many Pastors today are just hustlers using the name of Jesus to have their belly filled.

oloriooko:
take out time and read again before passing your judgement

you're dancing in circle, young man

2Radii:
Lol
Well he might be right with his view is is exclusive to him.

The tin is, Those village orthodox churches use to give account of how they received and spent the church money/donations at the end of every year...in my hometown that is the norms actually so I was used to it before I left for the cities.

It was when I got to lagos I saw that there also used to be different churches with different ideas, management system and extortion techniques in the name of collecting dues and gifts.

Some of the churches are direct clones of the old orthodox churches we were used to in the village, same mode of service and all but the only difference is the way they collect money. These clones churches are hungrier for money more than a responsible family man. And the funny thing is that nothing like accountability or reports on how the money was spent.
If u dare ask the pastors and some followfollow church members will blackmail u in front of other listening ears into believing u re a devil, antichrist, antipastor and a person who is not filled with the holy spirit. That time u need deliverance

Laslas a no kuku dey attend church again

you are very right .. i once attended CAC In Osun and First Sunday they gave full account of the past year .. they read it out openly to the church members .. every income with names and expenditures with details .. omo 8 shock that day

Bluntemperor:


Appeal To Our Beloved:
•Mr Adepoju,you are free to stay in your house whenever you come back to Nigeria,for Nigerian Churches will continue to March Forward and the gates of hell will not prevail.
-Nigerian Churches are not NGOs, neither do Govt gives them Sisi( Kobo) as supporting funds, and those Churches abroad have been existing since generations and must blend with the rules of times in their respective Countries.
-For your information,there are many Churches in Nigeria, feeding the Orphans,the weak,the feeble, and those in Prisons, steadily.Some have Mission Outreaches,they Clothes the Naked, home and Abroad,Feed Beggars,Feed the Widows,etc!
For example,I know those Churches that Cooks good,every Weekdays and Weekend and Served the Prisoners, even though, I'm not in that Church.
What is more Accountable - is it until they show you the Statement of Accounts on how they Spent your Money? How do you make Heaven with this attitude?
•My Money Is My Money Attitude and you think you are growing in Faith?
Much as I know that some Churches are for the belly ,but not ALL,so why the Comparison of how they spent the Church Money?
-Don't be like those condemning the Churches because they wants to used them during Elections and the Nigerian Churches refused them,now they are saying all manners of accusations, against the Church Leaders.
•The Church Mandate is to Win More Souls for Christ ,which You should be be part,but if you follow those who wants to know how your Money is Spent,then ,go and read more of the Bible for Guidance and Counseling on the Churches Growth.
Remember those you are entertaining here on Social Media are neither believers nor want it well,with the Church.
May you know the Truth and the Truth Set You Free.
Leave the Pastors for God's Judgement,after all,you are not the one that Call them,not those on the Social Media,for their grievous condemnation.
Remain Blessed.

Over sabi, the same whites brought religion to us and you people will be quoting the same scripture written by them as if you know better than the UK guys.

Although few churches are accountable and transparent here I remember ECWA church in my village then.