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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:00pm On Aug 26
raumdeuter:


Has Kamala committed to the Foxnews debate?

Captain Intellectual Dishonesty strikes again.
If Trump didn't want to debate, he shouldn't have agreed to debate.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 2:03pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


That would be a good rejoinder if you were in kindergarten.
You don't have to support Trump and don't have to degrade yourself to support whatever Bullshit he does/says.

Barron is 18. 18 year olds fight and die in war. They don't need mommy with them 24/7.
Even so, Melania does not work and has a staff. She has plenty of time to support her husband and mommy an 18 yo. A lot of parents get it done on much much much less.

I'm not sure who the bullshit you write is aimed at, it's not people who have brains though.

When you have your own family delegate them to plenty of support staff without oversight. This is a classic example of talking out of your ass.

Ask your friends who have families how they do it

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:29pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


Do you ever stop with the Bullshit?
It's just better not to respond than responding with stuff you should know makes you sound silly.

But your mom is still raising you as we speak since you refuse to grow up.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:34pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


Captain Intellectual Dishonesty strikes again.
If Trump didn't want to debate, he shouldn't have agreed to debate.

Kamala will never go to fox news because she feels they won't be friendly. Why cant you give trump the same excuse?

Bring a rock, slap a D on it and you will vote and support it with your all you got even if the alternative can make all your problems go away.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:38pm On Aug 26
bemeruca:


But your mom is still raising you as we speak since you refuse to grow up.

Wait are you talking about families and Mom's raising children? Lol
Where are your kids? Lol.
I think Raum was referring to you when he wrote this.

raumdeuter:

Melania has her own life to live and possibly raise a son while Trump is on the campaign trail
That is why its important to have 2 adults raising kids, Only those who have raised families will know why one parent should be at home
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:41pm On Aug 26
raumdeuter:


When you have your own family delegate them to plenty of support staff without oversight. This is a classic example of talking out of your ass.

Ask your friends who have families how they do it

My friends wives support what's important to their husbands and their husbands support what is important to their wives. Because they love each other and that's what's expected.

A wife not showing up to support her husband in court and not really showing up to support her husband who is running for President, tells you everything you need to know about her and him.

I wonder, do you really believe this bullshit you spread or do you write it just to push Bullshit in defense of Trump.
It's weaks sauce. I know it's hard to defend Trump, but do it with better arguments.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:45pm On Aug 26
bemeruca:


Kamala will never go to fox news because she feels they won't be friendly. Why cant you give trump the same excuse?

Bring a rock, slap a D on it and you will vote and support it with your all you got even if the alternative can make all your problems go away.

Yes, I will be voting. Will you?
Nah.. because Canadian asylum seekers can't vote in US elections.
But they can run their mouths and pretend they live in the US.

Trump didn't debate in the Republican primaries. I'm sure it's because he thought the debates where every other Republican debated at would be unfair too.. Yeah that must be it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 4:06pm On Aug 26
raumdeuter:


Melania has her own life to live and possibly raise a son while Trump is on the campaign trail

That is why its important to have 2 adults raising kids, Only those who have raised families will know why one parent should be at home

LoLz. That's a tired old excuse now that Barron is an adult.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:27pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


My friends wives support what's important to their husbands and their husbands support what is important to their wives. Because they love each other and that's what's expected.

A wife not showing up to support her husband in court and not really showing up to support her husband who is running for President, tells you everything you need to know about her and him.

I wonder, do you really believe this bullshit you spread or do you write it just to push Bullshit in defense of Trump.
It's weaks sauce. I know it's hard to defend Trump, but do it with better arguments.

Raising your kids is more important and families make the choice. Ask your friends who have families how they priortize the well being of the kids over other things

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:29pm On Aug 26
LordReed:
LoLz. That's a tired old excuse now that Barron is an adult.

The Trumps choose the raise their own kids the way they want which is why they turned out good
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 4:32pm On Aug 26
raumdeuter:


Raising your kids is more important and families make the choice. Ask your friends who have families how they priortize the well being of the kids over other things

Barron is not a kid, he is 18. At 18, I had already bought my first car and was in a dorm in College.

So how would the well being of an 18 year old 'kid' be affected by showing up to Court for your husband or travelling with your husband to campaign events?

You have a bias that makes it hard for you to understand how irrational the things you say are.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:39pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


Barron is not a kid, he is 18. At 18, I had already bought my first car and was in a dorm in College.

So how would the well being of an 18 year old 'kid' be affected by showing up to Court for your husband or travelling with your husband to campaign events?

You have a bias that makes it hard for you to understand how irrational the things you say are.

Some let their 17yr olds work others dont.
The Trumps choose to raise their family the way they want, when its your turn you can do yours different
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 4:50pm On Aug 26
raumdeuter:


Some let their 17yr olds work others dont.
The Trumps choose to raise their family the way they want, when its your turn you can do yours different

He's basically like Melania has to to breastfeed 18 y.o. Barron every day at every moment so she can't even make time to go to her Husband's court dates even though it may make her husband seem more sympathetic and prevent him from going to jail.
You're like a brain dead drone. You repeat the some nonsense over and over.
You're exhausting.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 5:10pm On Aug 26
basilico:


There is nothing more you would love than hear she has divorced him..

https://www.businessinsider.com/melania-trump-during-donald-trump-campaign-photos-2024-8?op=1


I have better things to look forward to.

Did you see what happened during Melania's mum's burial?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 5:15pm On Aug 26
raumdeuter:


The Trumps choose the raise their own kids the way they want which is why they turned out good

Yeah so good they are banned from running a charity. So good that Ivanka is distancing herself from the Trump campaign and presidential bid.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 5:24pm On Aug 26
The latest rift between the Kamala Harris and Donald Trump campaigns is about the conditions surrounding the debate.

Brian Fallon, the Harris campaign’s senior adviser for communications, said that the campaign has told ABC and other networks that “both candidates’ mics should be live throughout the full broadcast.

Washington Post

So Trump is now running away from a debate after it has been agreed to before because the Harris team is asking that mics should be left live throughout the full broadcast..
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:36pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


Wait are you talking about families and Mom's raising children? Lol
Where are your kids? Lol.
I think Raum was referring to you when he wrote this.


In a different country.
Do you have any or you gonna talk about your imaginary ex forever?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:36pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


My friends wives support what's important to their husbands and their husbands support what is important to their wives. Because they love each other and that's what's expected.

A wife not showing up to support her husband in court and not really showing up to support her husband who is running for President, tells you everything you need to know about her and him.

I wonder, do you really believe this bullshit you spread or do you write it just to push Bullshit in defense of Trump.
It's weaks sauce. I know it's hard to defend Trump, but do it with better arguments.

Its never you 😂😂

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:38pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


Yes, I will be voting. Will you?
Nah.. because Canadian asylum seekers can't vote in US elections.
But they can run their mouths and pretend they live in the US.

Trump didn't debate in the Republican primaries. I'm sure it's because he thought the debates where every other Republican debated at would be unfair too.. Yeah that must be it.

Yes you will vote for a rock with a D painted on it because you cannot reason out of party lines.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 5:42pm On Aug 26
bemeruca:


Its never you 😂😂

Lol. Where is your wife? Do you have one? And do you have custody of your kids?
You should sit down and shut up. You are the not the best messenger for whatever "healthy family dynamics" message you are preaching.
Go fix your family. Marry that woman who has 4 of your children and get custody of your kids. Then, and only then can you start preaching about families and asking people about their wives.

Nonsense

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:51pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


Lol. Where is your wife? Do you have one? And do you have custody of your kids?
You should sit down and shut up. You are the not the best messenger for whatever "healthy family dynamics" message you are preaching.
Go fix your family. Marry that woman who has 4 of your children and get custody of your kids. Then, and only then can you start preaching about families and asking people about their wives.

Nonsense

Scotland, I am not married though.
We don't have custody issues don't worry.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 5:54pm On Aug 26
bemeruca:


Scotland, I am not married though.
We don't have custody issues don't worry.


He said, no custody issues. Lol
Because your Baby mamma has the custody.
You are not married, so you have no wife.
So, you have no wife and don't have custody of your Children.
Why are you running your mouth again?

Lol
You an slowpoke.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:04pm On Aug 26
EnlightenedUFO:


That's embarrassing even for you.

He's backing out of the debate. With his performance of late, I guess he would die of a heart attack on the stage with VP Harris.

Ooo it was Kamala that made Kavanaugh cry, you remember?

And she also dismantled Tulsi on the debate stage and Tulsi has never recovered since then as she's gone right full wing after the beat down.

Rapist felon trump can't compete.

On debate 2020 she dismantled Joe Biden..Then feel the Bernie looked to run away with it. So the very democratic democrats led by Clayburn and Obama prevailed upon Bernie to tone down. Bernie bought a beach house. After he bought the house he changed tune to tax the billionaires not the millionaires.
Clayburn runs AME voter rigging apparatus.
Thank me for this you didn't know .
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:06pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


Captain Intellectual Dishonesty strikes again.
If Trump didn't want to debate, he shouldn't have agreed to debate.
Trump wants 3 debates. One with Fox the other scheduled one with ABC plus the last one I'm not sure of.
Kamala only wants one with ABC.
Why she scared to get questioned by a network that won't sent her the questions beforehand
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 6:06pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


He's basically like Melania has to to breastfeed 18 y.o. Barron every day at every moment so she can't even make time to go to her Husband's court dates even though it may make her husband seem more sympathetic and prevent him from going to jail.
You're like a brain dead drone. You repeat the some nonsense over and over.
You're exhausting.

Every family decides what works for them, when you have yours you can decide what to do with them.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:08pm On Aug 26
raumdeuter:


Every family decides what works for them, when you have yours you can decide what to do with them.
.I think he is impotent.45 plus and no children

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:23pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


He said, no custody issues. Lol
Because your Baby mamma has the custody.
You are not married, so you have no wife.
So, you have no wife and don't have custody of your Children.
Why are you running your mouth again?

Lol
You an slowpoke.

Some things are too much for you to grasp since you are a gay man. When you get a GF you can start to understand a little.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 7:01pm On Aug 26
basilico:

Trump wants 3 debates. One with Fox the other scheduled one with ABC plus the last one I'm not sure of.
Kamala only wants one with ABC.
Why she scared to get questioned by a network that won't sent her the questions beforehand

3 grin
Is 3 not too stressful for him grin ?
You all pushing for 3 are into elder abuse!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 7:14pm On Aug 26
armyofone:


3 grin
Is 3 not too stressful for him grin ?
You all pushing for 3 are into elder abuse!

Lol, but it's kamala that is renegotiating the debate. One of her teams request is that they should be seated instead of to stand as they debate.

She wants hot mic so she can interrupt trump with the host and if he tries to interject when she speaks she will yell "I'm talking"

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kkins25(m): 7:17pm On Aug 26
IjeBos:


Agreed to a point, I believe autonomy when it comes to your body should be absolute as I believe your person/body is the greatest form of freedom. So, how society views the fetus becomes irrelevant. Even though there may be another person growing inside of you, until that person becomes fully autonomous, your autonomy should supercede. It does sux to say that, but I think that makes the most sense.

So as to Society, your autonomy should only be restricted if it affects another autonomous person's right to autonomy. So, in your example of the drugs, you are asking someone else to do something for you. That makes sense for the state to regulate.

This would be true if the woman was aborting the baby by herself and with no support from society whatsoever.
No lady can independently abort the baby because she still needs the medical equipment and emotional support of society. Society has to invest funds and man hours to develop the safest route for the procedure.

Therefore, like my "wish for drug" example, her autonomy to self infringes on the society's autonomy to refuse her request.

Consequently, it exposes the falsehood in the claim that "autonomy with respect to body is/should be absolute." Ideally, it sounds plausible, but when you "touch grass" it's not.

Another problem that arises from your argument is the subjective view of autonomy. It's not properly defined. A 1 month old baby is still fully dependent on the mother and society and cannot cater for itself.

It's safe to say it isn't autonomous, just like someone with complete paralysis is also dependent on society to cater to their needs. Can we, based on the claim that self-maintainance equates autonomy, "remove" individuals who aren't capable of fending for themselves since they aren't autonomous?

How society views the fetus is indeed relevant. Society is made up of people who were, once upon a time, fetuses themselves. Another example, society always mourns the death of a pregnant woman even more because that's two deaths.

In scientific community, the extraction of stem cells from said fetuses is blanketed with controversy.In fact, the practise of harveting embryonic stem cells is considered unethical. We must now ask, why does society, on one hand recognize the person hood of the embryo and, on the other, dismisses the personhood of same embryo. The answer is politics!

Let's randezvous back to pregnancy. The news of pregnancy, from a societal standpoint, is worth celebrating---It signifies continuity. Flip the coin: the loss of pregnancy can be devastating. Why does something that seems so insignificant cause so much impact?

So, yes, contrary to your claim, society cares a whole lot about fetuses. So much so, that there's a whole science about it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 7:41pm On Aug 26
Hot battle ground

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 8:59pm On Aug 26
bemeruca:


Some things are too much for you to grasp since you are a gay man. When you get a GF you can start to understand a little.

You not having a wife though you have 4 children out of wedlock you don't have custody of sure seems like a hard concept to grasp.
Lol.

And fyi, I've seen the pics of your children. It's clearly obvious you and your Baby Momma weren't in that high demand/many options category.

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