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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 10:22pm On Aug 30 |
Just In: FG Gives Traders One Month to crash Prices of Goods Nationwide. AND TRADERS GIVES FG TWO WEEKS TO CRASH THE DOLLAR RATE NATIONWIDE!!! OREGIRIGO IT HAS REGIDDDD!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by designking: 10:25pm On Aug 30 |
HesInMe: He is only drawing our attention to see how unrealistic $1 per share for an Oando share is. Many are placing Oando shares at par with ₦3k+ of Seplat share without knowing that Oando current valuation at ₦75 is not far from the ₦3k+ Seplat valuation. An Oando share at ₦200 has a larger valuation than a Seplat share at ₦3k+. $1 per an Oando share is delusional. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Ginalex(f): 10:42pm On Aug 30 |
MadmaxX489:Mad oooo 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by brotherly: 10:50pm On Aug 30 |
mikeapollo: How many people were willing to sell at N5? Volume is determined by sellers when they feel the price is right. 1 Like
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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Ginalex(f): 10:52pm On Aug 30 |
yMcy56:Chai Odogwu Zenith... UBA oya follow suit😘😘... With this I'd definitely take up my rights with Zenith 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 10:52pm On Aug 30 |
designking: After you don sell na |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 10:54pm On Aug 30 |
Ginalex: Will uba pay #1? |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Ginalex(f): 10:56pm On Aug 30 |
megawealth01:90k won't be bad if they can't pay #1 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Bimmms: 11:00pm On Aug 30 |
Have worked in Ebocha too before ,i came on a NAOC project ,their was this Sir Lankan chef ,very great guy ositadima1: |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Sunrisepebble: 11:04pm On Aug 30 |
Yes, Wale’s boy from time. Even used to work with Shell Nigeria before he was poached Streetinvestor2: |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Ades1: 11:45pm On Aug 30 |
Willie2015: Yea I remember they also seized a $2B bra made of gold from that politician woman 😂😂😂😂. Like I said, make una continue with the buffoonery, it cracks me up! |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by crownprince2017: 12:10am On Aug 31 |
Ellahlakes delivered as promised. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lancee(m): 12:12am On Aug 31 |
megawealth01: Uba paid 50k inter div last yr ..,Think Zee paid 30k Hopefully should be more than 50k |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmasoft(m): 12:28am On Aug 31 |
yMcy56: Nigerian banks particularly the big five always know how to navigate their way. This capital raise currently on, will be a case of if you want more cake, bake more, they will absorb the dilution of their shares with improved earnings and pay better dividends. Zenith has shown the positive signs. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Ginalex(f): 12:29am On Aug 31 |
lancee:50k as well 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 2:22am On Aug 31 |
brotherly:Many people were selling and dumping Oando at N5. If someone like me could buy the volumes I now have at around N5, then Wale could have bought as much as he needed. All he would have to do is to placee a standing instruction to his brokers /registrars to mop up all the units that he needed, even within the range of N5-N15 per share before the recent rise. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 2:30am On Aug 31 |
megawealth01: Otedola was an outsider when FBN was at N3-N4 and might not have been aware of the prospects and potentials of the bank at that time. So he may jump in only when he gets some info. But Wale has always been the driver in Oando and in charge of all the strategic plan s of the company and cooking all the deals from the beginnig. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lancee(m): 3:41am On Aug 31 |
[quote author=Ginalex post=131776124]50k as well [/quote Ohh ok got u .. Thanks |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by SAK: 3:58am On Aug 31 |
Roarke: You don't need all this if you trade online ,realtime .As the market open/progress you will see available offers that suit your entry point ,then you buy immediately.....Try Morgan capital for real time online trading and low brokerage. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by HesInMe: 4:04am On Aug 31 |
Na wa o. Did you even bother to read anything I wrote? I am a multi-year Oando shareholder. I am up nearly 700% already. I am still not selling. If you people pump it up to 200, I'm sitting pretty. The beauty of a well-reasoned valuation is that you can interrogate it and see whether it makes sense. You can't interrogate silly stuff like "Oando don cast o." The person who estimated value at N170+ per share using SEPLAT multiple is on the right track, but made a clear error: S/he did not account for the difference in level of debt between the two companies. After we get the correct mathematical value, we can then adjust for intangibles, like the perceived connections Oando has. No be rocket science na. Let's get collectively smarter as investors. Attacking people personally for no reason isn't the way. Streetinvestor2: 5 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by SAK: 4:10am On Aug 31 |
MadmaxX489:Nice one |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by SAK: 4:16am On Aug 31 |
lancee:Which one is "zee" ?brother. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mankind2024: 4:42am On Aug 31 |
Yes, back from the wicked and unjustified ban by the NSEMPA headless moderator. I done miss una oooo. It was a worthless ban, trust me, my pen is stronger than the faceless and wicked moderator. I had to tag Seun, the son of Osewa, for a quick intervention. @YMcy56, Megawealth, Streetinvestor, Oga Agbalowomeri, Pa Emma, all of una no even ask after me. Lol. This NSEMPA platform is the most important to me. The only social media account that I have. This made the ban painful. The ban lasted 4 days which appeared like 4 years. Yes, back, better and stronger. As e dey pepper the faceless moderator, na so e dey sweet 😋 me now. Ban me again, the next letter against you would be very toxic and bitter. The message that crushed the headless moderator. @Seun, son of Osewa, I'm reaching out to bring attention to an unjust ban I received from a moderator in the Investment section. Despite being an active and contributing member, I was banned without violating any rules or committing any infractions. I believe this decision was unfair and deserves investigation. I request that the ban be lifted and hope for a resolution to this matter. I'm concerned that this incident may be a result of bias or tribalism, and I hope we can address it objectively. 4 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mankind2024: 4:57am On Aug 31 |
My View on the Illusion of Stock Overvaluation and Why Investors Should Rethink Stock Valuation. When Total was trading at sub-N400 a year ago, it appeared overvalued in the sights of many investors. Low liquidity and low volume were also cited by some forum members, with daily prices sometimes static. Then, speculations by retail investors emerged that there was a hidden gem in the company. The story changed, and the price is now heading towards the N1,000 mark, same is true for OANDO, We NSEMPA members single handedly dictate its current price. This motivated me to research why the concept of stock valuation using the traditional methods of FA, CCA, ABV, GGM, EV/EBITDA, P/S RATIO, P/B RATIO, DCF, DDM, P/E RATIO All these may no longer be absolutely relevant in modern settings. No wonder the legendary investor Warren Buffett described the modern stock market as a casino due to massive participation by retail investors. Behavioral and financial psychology is now the order of the day. In light of this, I came up with the following supporting opinions to buttress the assertion that the concept of stock overvaluation lies in the eyes of an individual(buyer), not the dictate of the market. In the era of digital mobile technologies and social media, the investing landscape has undergone a significant transformation. The emergence and active participation of retail investors has revolutionized the way stock prices are determined, rendering traditional notions of overvaluation obsolete. It's time for investors to abandon the concept of overvaluation and embrace a new reality: a stock's value is ultimately determined by what individual investors are willing to pay. _Subjective Valuation_ Stock valuation has always been subjective, with different investors holding varying opinions on a stock's worth. What one investor considers overvalued, another might see as undervalued. This disparity highlights the futility of relying solely on traditional valuation metrics. _The Rise of Retail Investors The influx of retail investors has demonstrated that collective individual opinions can drive stock prices, making traditional notions of overvaluation less relevant. As more investors participate in the market, their collective sentiment and speculation shape stock prices. This concept alone was the reason my boss Oga Agba has been locked out of the market. He is still waiting for the index to obey the dictate of Ichimoku and fibonacci. 😆 🤣 😂 😹 _Speculation and Sentiment Speculation and market sentiment, fueled by digital technologies and social media, significantly impact stock prices. This makes it challenging to determine intrinsic value, as prices are influenced by various market dynamics, such as momentum, trends, and herd behavior. _A New Era of Investing_ The digital age has ushered in a new era of investing, where information dissemination and accessibility have empowered individual investors. Traditional valuation metrics are no longer dominant, as investors rely on diverse sources of information to inform their decisions. _Price Discovery_ The true value of a stock is ultimately determined by what investors are willing to pay, making price discovery a dynamic and constantly evolving process. This reality underscores the importance of understanding market sentiment and speculation. _Efficient Market Hypothesis_ The efficient market hypothesis suggests that prices reflect all available information, making it challenging to consistently achieve returns in excess of the market's average. This theory supports the idea that stock prices are influenced by individual opinions and speculations. _Behavioral Finance_ Behavioral finance highlights how psychological biases and emotions influence investment decisions. This further supports the notion that stock prices are influenced by individual opinions and speculations rather than solely by fundamental valuations. Lastly, the concept of overvaluation is no longer relevant in today's investing landscape. Investors must adapt to a new reality, where stock prices are determined by individual opinions, speculation, and market sentiment. By embracing this shift, investors can better navigate the complexities of the modern market and make more informed investment decisions. 10 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by HesInMe: 5:31am On Aug 31 |
I mostly disagree. How will you know when to enter and exit a given stock if you only rely on subjective sentiment? But if you think investors cannot rely on objective valuations anymore, then what you're saying is that stock investing is just gambling. And in gambling, the House always wins, and the gambler, on average, loses. You want to be Bet9ja, "the House," not the stupid drunken gambler on the street. So disciplined investors should stop picking single stocks and just buy the whole market, i.e. "the House". Some stocks will do like Total and Oando, some will be Nestle, but on average, you'll be fine. Mankind2024: 4 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mankind2024: 5:52am On Aug 31 |
I understand your concerns and agree that relying solely on subjective sentiment can be challenging. However, I'd argue that the market has evolved to incorporate both objective valuations and subjective sentiment. While traditional valuation metrics are still relevant, they shouldn't be the only considerations. I'm not suggesting that investing is equivalent to gambling, but rather that market dynamics have changed. The rise of retail investors and social media has introduced new factors that influence stock prices. Your suggestion to 'buy the whole market' is a valid strategy, as it provides diversification and can mitigate risks. Nevertheless, disciplined investors can still find success in picking individual stocks by combining fundamental analysis with an understanding of market sentiment and trends. It's about striking a balance between objective valuations and subjective sentiment, rather than relying solely on one approach. Some stocks are invariably benefiting from retail investors participation in the market. Tantalizer Brisco Oando Veritaslap Unity Omatek Deap Cap NSLTECH Royalex HesInMe: 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Raider76: 5:54am On Aug 31 |
Mankind2024: This means TA is the way. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mankind2024: 6:09am On Aug 31 |
You are relatively correct. However, the TA chat can lead to market timing and lock you out of the merry, especially in a low liquid market like NGX. The mix of market sentiment in combination with TA and FA is just the ideal practice in modern settings. Ask Oga Agba how long he has been out of the market. 😆 🤣 😂, then you will understand the need to utilize sentiments. Raider76: 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Alagbalaowo: 6:21am On Aug 31 |
Welcome back, Mankind2024 Mankind2024: |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jaybee3(m): 6:23am On Aug 31 |
KarlTom:One of Eni’s oga at the top told me theft and cost of securing onshore assets was a great compounder of issues that necessitated the divestment 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Alagbalaowo: 6:31am On Aug 31 |
I agree to everything written, with a little twist and a balanced approach to all. In this market, one need not be too rigid about a certain strategy. You have to be flexible in your approach. But atlas, you can not force someone to be what they don't want to be. As it is, only those willing to approach market with a soft heart obtain certain juice out of it. Sentiment works, TA works, FA works too. A combination of one or two is even perfect. Mankind2024: 1 Like |
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