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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 9:37am On Sep 03
Don't think we should be playing with a sole 10 if Zirkzee is in the game, should probably switch to 4-3-3 then with double CMs
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 9:38am On Sep 03
maik99:


One would not think Mainoo has only half a season of senior football with this your post
l know raw talent when I c one. Mainoo is just there. Rashford did more this when he was coming up.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 9:42am On Sep 03
cheesy grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:43am On Sep 03
melodyogonna:
Don't think we should be playing with a sole 10 if Zirkzee is in the game, should probably switch to 4-3-3 then with double CMs

We should discard that no10 anyway, whether Zirkzee is playing or not. Playing double CMs with a CDM behind them will give us better protection in midfield and improve our transition defense.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 9:45am On Sep 03
afrodoc2:


We should discard that no10 anyway, whether Zirkzee is playing or not. Playing double CMs with a CDM behind them will give us better protection in midfield and improve our transition defense.

I think that may be the long-term direction ETH is going with Mount signing
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 9:50am On Sep 03
milann:
So nobody saw one of Mac Alister/gravenberch/szoboslai dispossess mainoo enroute the third goal. Your love for mainoo will consume you man u fraudfans. Instead of judging fairly, you blame one person. Leyqute, afrodoc2, ellexy, christobam, eph12, odizeey, sportsweb, maik99, obonujoker, mrviktor, patrickmuf you know yourself. May what you did to casemiro come back and haunt you

Someone that doesn't watch football will think we are attacking on the right... Even mainoo had chance to pass the ball here..

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 9:53am On Sep 03
But mainoo is only 19 naaaaa undecided

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:55am On Sep 03
melodyogonna:

I think that may be the long-term direction ETH is going with Mount signing

Long term? How long is the term cos we are still waiting.

I also prefer to have true 8s play the double CM role, not AMs like Bruno or Mount masquerading as CMs.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 10:16am On Sep 03
afrodoc2:


Long term? How long is the term cos we are still waiting.

I also prefer to have true 8s play the double CM role, not AMs like Bruno or Mount masquerading as CMs.


grin This season hopefully. I believe Mount can play as 8
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 10:17am On Sep 03
engrelvis:
l know raw talent when I c one. Mainoo is just there. Rashford did more this when he was coming up.
The same Rashford that was nicknamed headless chicken? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:22am On Sep 03
Mrviktor:


Someone that doesn't watch football will think we are attacking on the right... Even mainoo had chance to pass the ball here..
I know Mainoo should have eyes on the back of his head to see those behind him as the superstar he is. Don't mind them

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obonujoker(m): 10:23am On Sep 03
Bruno Fernandes disagrees with Erik ten Hag after Liverpool defeat

Bruno Fernandes commented that all goals are self inflicted and there is more to the defeat than individual errors.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:23am On Sep 03
But Slot is bad. See as the players surrounded Mainoo. Even the ones they said he should be able to see and pass too behind him have players close to them and will dispossess them before the ball even gets to them
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obonujoker(m): 10:24am On Sep 03
Speaking to Sky Sports, club captain Bruno Fernandes was asked about the errors in the game, he disagreed to what Ten Hag suggested and said that goals are always self-inflicted, and that now isn’t the time for finger pointing and about making it ‘individual’.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obonujoker(m): 10:24am On Sep 03
Discussing the errors, Fernandes said: “The goals are always self-inflicted, you need to commit a mistake to give them the goal. We don’t need to be pointing fingers at everyone. That won’t help us now.”

He continued: “When you concede a goal you can’t just point at one mistake. What’s the point in saying Casemiro lost the ball or Kobbie [Mainoo] lost the ball? They lost the ball because they wanted to be brave. It’s part of football. Don’t make it individual.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 10:49am On Sep 03
melodyogonna:

The same Rashford that was nicknamed headless chicken? grin
That is not d issues bro.Talent shud b in ascendency nt up today n down. Mpape of real Madrid has nt been scoring but his talents was glaring.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 10:55am On Sep 03
eph12:

I know Mainoo should have eyes on the back of his head to see those behind him as the superstar he is. Don't mind them
But they told us one of his strong assets is his ability to scan spaces around him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:29pm On Sep 03
Ellexy:
But they told us one of his strong assets is his ability to scan spaces around him.
Yes. Did you see those two players in the space around hi? Look around him and tell me what you can see
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 12:30pm On Sep 03
eph12:

I know Mainoo should have eyes on the back of his head to see those behind him as the superstar he is. Don't mind them

Mazroui was clearly in front of him..like sef mazroui right there
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:31pm On Sep 03
4 whole players around him with some to spare on the options he had. Makes you wonder if LFC had more than 11 eleven players on the field or ETH is just very useless

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:31pm On Sep 03
Mrviktor:


Mazroui was clearly in front of him..like sef mazroui right there
Which of those two you circled Mazroui?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 12:32pm On Sep 03
Can we just go back to playing wing football..

Not this playing from the back nonsense



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih5zfhuTlCA?si=KLkQbevkDI-sja8n
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:33pm On Sep 03
There is a reason I have not even mentioned Casemiro name at all or any player. Slot and his team came with a game plan. Close down Case and Mainoo very fast with as many players as possible. What was ETH's plan? Anybody?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 12:37pm On Sep 03
eph12:
There is a reason I have not even mentioned Casemiro name at all or any player. Slot and his team came with a game plan. Close down Case and Mainoo very fast with as many players as possible. What was ETH's plan? Anybody?

His plan was to counter whatever plan Slot had
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:40pm On Sep 03
melodyogonna:
Don't think we should be playing with a sole 10 if Zirkzee is in the game, should probably switch to 4-3-3 then with double CMs
I have thought of this before. One good thing about him is that even though he drops deep, he seems to find his way to the box on time as evident from the Liverpool game. He is still getting used to the pace of the league though, I noticed he was taken by surprise every he was quickly closed down before he could turn or think of what to do to get past someone.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:45pm On Sep 03
Mrviktor:


Someone that doesn't watch football will think we are attacking on the right... Even mainoo had chance to pass the ball here..
This sums it all up. See the position of Collyer and Bruno, see all that space in the middle and then see how Liverpool press...Na, we need a good coach that can properly set us up and we will play much better and be much harder to play through.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 12:56pm On Sep 03
eph12:

Which of those two you circled Mazroui?

I circled the midfielders and how they aren't giving mainoo any options..

The left winger also was occupied..

I wonder why he still choose to carry the ball towards that direction..

If u see u are closed down..
Release the ball or boot it upwards.. don't hold it like u are pogba..or Gattuso..

If u don't have that strength to hold 4 players on ur own release the ball or shoot it away..

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 12:58pm On Sep 03
patrickmuf:
This sums it all up. See the position of Collyer and Bruno, see all that space in the middle and then see how Liverpool press...Na, we need a good coach that can properly set us up and we will play much better and be much harder to play through.

I swear if it was arsenal or mancity or even Brighton.. they would have created a chance out of that..

U had the chance to kill 6 Liverpool players... By beating the press.. we had over 8 players in their half.

If we had beat that press we would have scored..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 1:12pm On Sep 03
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 1:12pm On Sep 03
Mrviktor:


I swear if it was arsenal or mancity or even Brighton.. they would have created a chance out of that..

U had the chance to kill 6 Liverpool players... By beating the press.. we had over 8 players in their half.

If we had beat that press we would have scored..

It's the reason I don't like Eth tactics. Why is Mainoo's pair, who's supposed to help in transitioning the ball to our forwards, far away from him.

Makes more sense why he wanted McTom to remain. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 1:46pm On Sep 03
chrisley024:
It's the reason I don't like Eth tactics. Why is Mainoo's pair, who's supposed to help in transitioning the ball to our forwards, far away from him.

Makes more sense why he wanted McTom to remain. grin

I think his point is that it could take quite a while before Mctom's replacement (Ugarte) reaches suitable fitness levels...

The man don dey take style dey use that one as excuse already grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:47pm On Sep 03
Mrviktor:


I circled the midfielders and how they aren't giving mainoo any options..

The left winger also was occupied..

I wonder why he still choose to carry the ball towards that direction..

If u see u are closed down..
Release the ball or boot it upwards.. don't hold it like u are pogba..or Gattuso..

If u don't have that strength to hold 4 players on ur own release the ball or shoot it away..

That is why the system will set up any player to fail. You see they always want to retain possession and play from the back which is what ETH is trying to do, how do you now expect them to shoot the ball away when they are closed down when the first thing in their head is to try to beat the press?

Players do lose ball, its not a new thing. The best players have lost the ball multiple times. The real question is why is your team so open anytime the players lose the ball in that position?

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