chccho:

And so hell what America Canada like u are now in heaven. Shior!!!

why are you sounding pained.

ThierryJay:


Ah ok. So you are ex-KPMG or PwC?

one of them

Emetex22:

I am a Registered Nurse today here in California, we all started from the bottom, I knew Niaja parents here who owned homes and worked as cleaners, there is what we call minimum wage here and Federal Housing loans for low income earners. Travel and u will realize ur politicians are wicked and enjoys u being under, real talk no dream SMH

There you go : painting rosy pictures to entice fools to their doom. And what makes you think I live in Nigeria? A cleaner buying a house could have been possible 20 years ago in US but certainly not today. He or she is more likely to be homeless these days or sharing an apartment or even a room…especially in places like Los Angeles or wherever you live in California. And if you are lucky to get one, you will need to work 2 or 3 jobs, temping and Upshifting and doordashing, to be able to keep it . Anyway let those that are willing to be misled get their wish. I have more than once seen an obvious Nigerian on Skid Row and seen a blind and homeless Nigerian on the train in Atlanta . They all started off believing people like you…not knowing that what works for one person may not work for another.

Anyway nobody is ever going to get a work visa to work in US as a toilet cleaner so the ongoing discussion is only theoretical or can only work in places like California full of Nigerian living illegally in US.

ednut1:
why are you sounding pained

I'm pained that u "so called" exposed, toilet cleaner brought this toilet mindset to a public space.

Antivirus92:
no empirical studies needed. Go through jamb, waec and neco best students for the past 15 years and cure your ignorance

My bad, I realised I replied to a conversation about the usual tribal bigotry.

steeltrust:
😂🤣
This one is pained already

If you don’t know I own a fintech app I run in Nigeria
You think say me and you na mate idiot

I’ve archive more way more than you in your entire generation

Na me wan cap for
Make God punish you

You left a fictitious fintech app company in Nigeria to become a toilet cleaner in the US.

Yoruba will say - " aye e ti baje", meaning your own has spoilt.

You even typed in one of your responses that you are almost achieving all you set out to do in the US yet according to you, you came to the US in 2023.

These are all the hallmarks of a pathological liar.

I guess you are even in one cave, stealing someone Wifi to access nairaland.

chccho:

I'm pained that u "so called" exposed, toilet cleaner brought this toilet mindset to a public space.

where did i claim i was exposed Be like say you dey petrol station dey queue 👹

Adakintroy:


Which kind mumu generalization be this. Una mindset poor I swear

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But na true nah. It's just few people who are earning big..

Even this pilot could not resit being a window cleaner:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/clean-skies-ahead-pilot-wipes-own-cockpit-windows-with-cloth/vi-AA1pUk0p?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=67d7f5747a034ab29f605aa05699593d&ei=9#details

erico2k2:

some household spend N100k a week for just generator fuel

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Yes, it's normal.

In terms of living a decent and sweet life… give it to the bank manager in Nigeria

Bank manager in Nigeria will

Send his or her kids to best high schools & Uni in Nigeria

Bank manager will purchase latest sedan or SUV with cash

Bank manager will take a round trip with his family around the world

Bank manager will have a maid and security man protecting him

Bank manager have high chances of meeting and working with top people in Nigeria

Bank manager will build mansion without owing anybody

Bank manager have access to over 50m loans

Bank manager in Nigeria has top quality health insurance for himself and family

Bank manager can easily send 4 of his or her children to study abroad and paid dia fee once!

Bank manager makes averagely 2m per month aside benefits


Pls do not ever compare a cleaner in abroad to a Nigeria Bank manager…

They will never be mate

paxonel:

Taaa!

Lies

you live in a third world nation, poverty capital and blessed with useless leaders

9japride:
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But na true nah. It's just few people who are earning big..

Few people are always rich even in america. That's the pattern acroos the world even in social patterns. Few nation's are rich other s
Poor. 195 nation's exist. You choose only about 10 to 15 destinations what about the remaining. It's the natural other.

Best post here so far!!

erico2k2:

Guy no worry stay 9ja,anyone with the means and refuse to leave or send their kids abroad 2024 like this is unrepentantly ignorant, they lack the up to date reasoning of the current state of Nigeria.

Myrrhis:


Save from what?
After paying all the bills from the paycheck to paycheck he earns?

the best houses in my area are owned by those in the Diaspora

Lol...you know you're lying

BigDawsNet:
In terms of living a decent and sweet life… give it to the bank manager in Nigeria

Bank manager in Nigeria will

Send his or her kids to best high schools & Uni in Nigeria

Bank manager will purchase latest sedan or SUV with cash

Bank manager will take a round trip with his family around the world

Bank manager will have a maid and security man protecting him

Bank manager have high chances of meeting and working with top people in Nigeria

Bank manager will build mansion without owing anybody

Bank manager have access to over 50m loans

Bank manager in Nigeria has top quality health insurance for himself and family

Bank manager can easily send 4 of his or her children to study abroad and paid dia fee once!

Bank manager makes averagely 2m per month aside benefits


Pls do not ever compare a cleaner in abroad to a Nigeria Bank manager…

They will never be mate

Adakintroy:


Few people are always rich even in america. That's the pattern acroos the world even in social patterns. Few nation's are rich other s
Poor. 195 nation's exist. You choose only about 10 to 15 destinations what about the remaining. It's the natural other.

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In other countries, their leaders ensure their citizens have everything to prosper.
Over here, every institution is filled with corruption.
Money meant for development is embezzled.
How do you expect such society to be comfortable and progressive?
Untill we start telling ourselves the truth, nothing will change.
Instead of those in power to buy cheaper vehicles for example, they go for the most expensive ones.
Such waste of resources can be channelled into other areas of development.

erico2k2:

Its way above ur comprehension, leave it at that.

Olodo spotted

MT:


Why are you attempting to correct the impression of these nitwits?.

Lot of kids are on nairaland these days.

Leave them to their mysteries

why are you emotional at your age? You resort to throwing tantrums when reality is staring at you. You're a 3rd world nation for a reason man

Whats the difference between caregiver and toilet cleaner?

greenermodels:
A toilet cleaner abroad can easily build a house back home in Nigeria more than a bank manager, he can improve his life there easily there too. My classmate who spent ten years jobless after service moved to the UK to work as a caregiver which is even worse than a toilet cleaner while studying, today, he has a masters and PhD in artificial intelligence and is a big boy. Nigeria is a dream killer.

hotwax:


When you are not a briton, how can you own a land in England?

The citizen cards they giving you now can be revoked later. They just need one hardliner like Trump to assume power...

No one can drag my Nigeria citizenship with me.

this is not a comment someone educated should be making

9japride:
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In other countries, their leaders ensure their citizens have everything to prosper.
Over here, every institution is filled with corruption.
Money meant for development is embezzled.
How do you expect such society to be comfortable and progressive?
Untill we start telling ourselves the truth, nothing will change.
Instead of those in power to buy cheaper vehicles for example, they go for the most expensive ones.
Such waste of resources can be channelled into other areas of development.

By other countries you mean few countries. Like about 15 or so. Cuz if you are talking other 195 countries. You really don't have a clue how similar they are to us. People don't get are difficult it is to make things work. Try for a start to make yourself work

He also earns more than the Chief Judge of the federation and university professor.

helinues:
Toilet cleaner is now a proud job

Jesu, may we not come into this life to serve others

No matter what you do, you still serve others. Even Dangote is serving others. As long as people pay you for your services, skills, or knowledge, you're serving them.

I do not agree with you 100 %

I know a plumber in canada who earns more than the prime minister. So dont underestimate these so called menial jobs.
This same plumber will drive a decent car to the place he cleans the toilet and will eat good enough food.

Can you say that about low income earners in Nigeria?

Life is not all about buying houses and expensive stuff.
Ask a bank manager in Nigeria what time he leaves home and when he returns ?

My friends daughter started working minimum wage job at the age of 15 - and as a result allowed her parents to have more money in their pocket - can you say that about a nigeria home ??

googi:
Op is obviously a depraved African with extra colomentality on steroids.

You do not realize the quality of life and culture a man that has risen to be a bank manager has, but long for the grass is greener on the other side.

Another deranged African also said life is better lost in the sea and desert, to slave traders and organ donors or sellers than being shipped into slavery on sugarcane plantations. True because you pay through your nose selling all you have to buy tickets and visa to "achieve" the same sugarcane plantations beds overseas.

It shows you what we had been reduced to when they handed us Bibble and Koran in exchange for gold and slaves.

Of course good infrastructure anywhere makes life easier for poor or working class but that is not the definition of civilized life which is simply ability to live peacefully with one another. Village life where you get enough to eat and drink is what rich people are longing for in rich countries

For the information of Op, life is rougher for lower class worker in America than African middle class. Indeed, their life expectancy is lower as the infant mortality is higher.

Their chances in correctional facilities and being shot are higher than in African countries. So called "good" education for your children is how to deride your culture and deprive you of your children and wives.

Ah, some Africans are irredeemable.

Myrrhis:
A bank manager in Nigeria does not live in debt.
Whatever he owns, he OWNS completely.

In Nigeria, a bank manager does not live in fear of debt.
And he doesn't have to work multiple jobs to keep up.

This (myopic) view of debt is what makes naija a sheethole

Debt is the no 1 wealth building tool and because MOST Nigerians are locked out of it, poverty will continue to ravage that country.

You took a mortgage for 35 years?
now your kids have equity that they can lend against to build further wealth

Or sell the home and fund a start up
taking life insurance policies for yourself and your spouse in addition to your spouse means that your adult kids have a payout waiting for them when you depart this world PLUS a paid up house and a 401k?

Poor education is the albatross of that country mehn

RodgersAkpafu:


this is not a comment someone educated should be making

Jews were land owners and citizens of germany until hitler revoked everything...

speaking good english and having internet access does not make someone educated...its obvious from your comment.

ThierryJay:
Looks like a number of Nigerians who japa'd are still ignorant about certain issues. It appears they project their own experiences of poverty while in Nigeria to every other situation here in Nigeria.

Make no mistake, an average Tier 1 & 2 bank Manager/branch head here earns total emolument of not less than N2-2.5million net per month (bonuses inclusive).

With that amount, a BM in Nigeria can:

- afford to build a good house after a couple of years
- has access to loan facilities of up to a N100m which can fast-track significant capital projects
- buy a very good car. Most typically have 2 or 3 cars on average.
- travel abroad for vacation during summer, with or without family
- employ domestic staff that run errands, queue for fuel etc
- either live in a premium estate with almost 24hour electricity supply or afford or set up a solar inverter system that will guarantee all round energy supply
- afford to go out to fun places regularly
- have free access to premium HMO services for medical care that may cost even up to N2million at a sitting

So under no circumstances would you find an average sensible BM struggling to live a quality life in Nigeria.. The general macro issues that plague Nigeria affects everyone whether BM, toilet cleaner or even Government officials.

In addition, the self-esteem (not arrogance) that a BM will have from being at the top of his career, from being exposed and having valuable social capital is something that cant be quantified but typically exceeds the mental state and exposure of a Janitor abroad.

So capital No, an immigrant toilet cleaner abroad does not live a better life than a BM in Nigeria. But he definitely has better prospects to be something better than many other professionals in Nigeria.

cc: steeltrust

That's what I meant when I say the comparison is out of place. A bank manager in Nigeria is living fine and has a thriving career. It's an unbeatable experience which shouldn't be compared to a toilet cleaner in the abroad.

Yes, Nigeria has serious issues, but never should anyone say a toilet cleaner in the abroad lives a better life than a bank manager in Nigeria.

Ah! Let's fear God, please.

Rossikk:


Unlikely to own a car in the first place.



A toilet cleaner won't be kidnapped in Nigeria either. Use your brain.



Anyone in Nigeria with a cheap generator can have 24/7 electricity.



Not necessarily. There are very long waiting lists for operations and surgery in the UK's NHS for example. You have to wait YEARS for an operation in some cases. Many perish before their turn. Only the rich who can afford the monstrously expensive private hospitals can be guaranteed of ''excellent medicare''. SAME AS IN NIGERIA.



A toilet cleaner is more likely to be shot in America or stabbed in the UK, or get his house burgled, than meet any armed robbers in Nigeria.



WRONG. Toilet cleaners in the west are among the underclass who tend to eat cheap, processed foods like frozen pizza, frozen chips, and eat junk food. A Nigerian bank manger eats fresh, highly nutritious, natural, organic foods.



Not necessarily. Some of them live in terrible places a Nigerian bank manager could never live.



Free education is not new to Nigeria. How old are you?



What studies have you conducted to make that claim?

You can't just come online and make outrageous claims from your big, loud IPOB terrorist OUTCAST lips.

your last paragraph shows u to be a dummy and tribalistic person

steeltrust:
😂🤣

Every body can not make it
Sometimes your destiny to succeed is in Nigerian or your friend too
As for me life has way better since I came
And I thank I did
I might be in Nigeria go to school and still achieve nothing while you won’t even go to school in Nigeria and achieve a lot

Go to where your destiny will shine
Mine shined in america and I’ll boldly defend it and say it anywhere

From what I’ve seen and compared both country

Nigeria is rotten deep down and nothing can change that

Imagine me a warehouse worker with a life insurance of 246k$ with no education wan I go leave for my family when I die 😂🤣

Braaaa abeg leave me oh 😂🤣

To be honest, your corpse will command more respect and dignity than you being alive. Quite obvious. Your death has more benefits than your living to your family.

Dont you think it's time to end your misery once and for all?

He is not talking about the cost. He is talking about the availability of these things he listed there. If you work hard abroad as a cleaner, waiter, hotel staff, trader, nurse, banker, engineer, you will get all those things. But in Nigeria, those things he listed, are for the super rich. Middle classs will not even experience those stuffs.

JoshTim:


Most of the things you listed are fallacy. Do you know how much health care cost in those countries?....has 24/7 light, can you bear the cost?...arm robbery you say, have you been to the US where you can be shot in broad day light or when last did you hear that the Nigerian president escaped assassination attempt?, fruits and food?....for real cholesterol is now good food?...all these your claims are overblown.

Love800:
Whats the difference between caregiver and toilet cleaner?

In the UK, a caregiver, also known as a carer, is an individual who provides support and assistance to someone who needs help with daily living tasks due to:

1. Age-related needs
2. Disability
3. Illness
4. Injury

Caregivers in the UK typically:

1. Assist with personal care (e.g., bathing, dressing, grooming)
2. Provide emotional support and companionship
3. Help with medication management
4. Assist with mobility and transfers
5. Support with meal preparation and feeding
6. Help with household tasks (e.g., cleaning, laundry)
7. Assist with social activities and outings
8. Monitor health and well-being
9. Provide respite care (temporary relief) for family caregivers

Caregivers work in various settings, including:

1. Private homes
2. Residential care homes
3. Nursing homes
4. Hospices
5. Day care centers

In the UK, caregivers can be:

1. Family members or friends (unpaid carers)
2. Paid care workers employed by:
- Local authorities
- Private care agencies
- Charities
- Individuals (private employers)

Caregivers play a vital role in supporting vulnerable individuals in the UK, enabling them to live independently and with dignity.