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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by Chetas81(m): 10:06am On Sep 07
lexy2014:


which enemy is that again?
mele kyari and the rest

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by mastermaestro(m): 10:06am On Sep 07
Habbeyy:
undecided I laugh in Libya 😂😂😂
Do you really understand what revolution means? For revolution to take place in a type of country like Nigeria, it may take forever. Revolution is different from protest and Nigerians cannot even organize a meaningful protest. Revolution is also different from coup.

I hope so. sad

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by OniyideAmplify(m): 10:10am On Sep 07
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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by Ikaeniyan0: 10:10am On Sep 07
atiku4President:
Money from oil in the SS and SE. What does Lagos bring to the table if not heavy taxes on hardworking non-Lagosians?
The way you clowns from th south east talk eh grin

The south west produce far more oil than the south east, but nah you clowns from the south east go dey make noise about oil

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by anonimi: 10:22am On Sep 07
Aussie2doc:


https://thenationonlineng.net/lagos-rail-mass-transit-and-dangote-refinery-the-game-changer-in-the-midst-of-chaos/

Ọmọ tĂ­ a kĂČ bĂĄ kọ nĂ­ o mĂĄ gbĂ© ilĂ© tĂ­ a kọ tĂĄ.

How many foreigners are working in the refinery because we fail to have free education for all children in vocational, primary and secondary schools?

What % of the maintenance parts of the mass transit rail are manufactured here?

Why are we blacks so clueless with misplaced priorities?

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Written by 2M Editor Published on 04 September 2024

Nearly a decade after its much-anticipated launch, Addis Ababa's light-rail system is facing significant challenges, with only 15 of the original 41 trains still operational. The decline in service is attributed to a shortage of spare parts, inadequate maintenance facilities, and frequent power outages.

Ato Worku Desta, Deputy Head of the Research and Technology Department at the Addis Ababa Transport Bureau, confirmed that the city's rail service has deteriorated over time and failed to live up to expectations. To keep some trains running, damaged units have been cannibalized for spare parts, but this approach has proven unsustainable.

The rail system was part of a broader USD 14.8 billion loan-funded infrastructure initiative by China, which included the Ethio-Djibouti railway, airport expansions, and road projects. While initially hailed as transformative, the rail service has been hampered by poor planning and insufficient arrangements for maintenance, spare parts, and local expertise.

https://www.2merkato.com/news/transport/8038-ethiopia-addis-ababa-rail-system-struggles-as-only-15-trains-remain-operational

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by SunCafe: 10:23am On Sep 07
The entry of Dangote into the oil market is indeed a game changer.

There is no solution that can be merely evaluated as a wrong or a bad idea except tried or properly evaluated.

Government policies must first be enforced with the law to strengthen its adherence and there after, implemented to solve critical problems in the country such as the fuel problem.

Schools of thought believe the Government should handle government affairs and leave business of government to the private sector. This isn't a bad idea. Obasanjo probably saw a solution in this idea and encouraged Dangote and Otedola to buy up the refinery.

The government is an institution with limitations and the citizens must acknowledge it. Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens should work with the government to help it.

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by tunjijones(m): 10:27am On Sep 07
lexy2014:


how much are people in lagos buying fuel?

Btw 900 to 1000.

What does this your useless question have to do with my post?
Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by lexy2014: 10:33am On Sep 07
tunjijones:


Btw 900 to 1000.

What does this your useless question have to do with my post?

the topic is about dangote refinery.

how has dangote refinery helped the fuel situation in lagos?

will the price of fuel selling at 900 to 1000 improve living standards or will make life worse for the people of lagos?

if standard of living are not going to improve as a result of the hike in fuel price, what "rapid development" are you referring to?
Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by lexy2014: 10:36am On Sep 07
SunCafe:
The entry of Dangote into the oil market is indeed a game changer.

There is no solution that can be merely evaluated as a wrong or a bad idea except tried or properly evaluated.

Government policies must first be enforced with the law to strengthen its adherence and there after, implemented to solve critical problems in the country such as the fuel problem.

Schools of thought believe the Government should handle government affairs and leave business of government to the private sector. This isn't a bad idea. Obasanjo probably saw a solution in this idea and encouraged Dangote and Otedola to buy up the refinery.

The government is an institution with limitations and the citizens must acknowledge it. Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens should work with the government to help it.

what is the game that dangote refinery has changed and how has it changed the game?

what are the limitations of government as an institution that citizens must acknowledge?

what help should Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens give to government?

where is it in the constitution that government supposed to get help from Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens?

is government helping Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens?

is it Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens that is supposed to be helping government or the other way around?
Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by Originalsly: 10:38am On Sep 07
How exactly is Dangote's refinery a game changer? It can be ... but is it? It has already gone into production ... what has changed? Is the cost of petrol lower at the pump? ... is the burden of subsidy being relieved and the money used to boost infrastructure? ... is our foreign reserves being boosted? If not...how is this a game changer?
Mass transit.... most cities abroad do not have a mass transit rail system. Does Lagos need one?...no doubt ...long overdue. Most cities have a robust bus system ...a car reaching bus network. Lagos needs to have both. No doubt the BRT lanes are important and should be there. But here is the writer claiming the lanes are underutilized therefore they should be turned into rail lanes. Why not shout for buses to utilize the lanes as planned? Why not have new paths for trains? Why not build new roads to ease congestion? The cities he visited and talk about have good urban planners with foresight Lagos has much room for new roads and rail tracks...why be fixated on the present only? New York City has a very good and extensive public transportation system to the extent that one does not need a car to get around . It is set up this way. Lagos has the population density that does require an extensive mass transportation system ... trains....buses ...and ferry. Do other cities have the density to follow Lagos? ...if not why should any other city in Nigeria follow ?...for bragging rights?...the same as building unnecessary flyovers? We need to plan accordingly to our situation and not just do copy copy .

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by ElevationD: 10:53am On Sep 07
“Lagos is the only state that seems to have a good idea of what a city should look like even though the state is finding it difficult to implement the goals. The city is still very far from achieving the goal of a megacity, but it is the only one struggling to get there. If your state governor is not coming to Lagos for tutorial, you may need a new governor by 2027 if you don’t want your city to be left behind”.

This OP should be ashamed of himself. First his is not from Lagos state.

How would you compare Lagos state with other states in terms of development? Why not compare Lagos state with Rabat, Tunis, Cairo and Johannesburg? Which of the other states of Nigeria was the Federal capital and enjoyed the benefits of that status? Building the refinery in Lagos state was an afterthought. The original location was Ogun state.

All the states know what they should do, for your information and not Lagos state alone.

Are their resources the same? Why not compare the growth and development of Lagos with Kebbi, Yobe, Jigawa, Zamfara and Adamawa states?

What do you want to say about BUA’s ongoing 250,000 BPD refinery construction in Akwa Ibom state? What about the 20,000 BPD refinery in Edo state or Anambra state? What about the combined capacity 450,000 PH 1 & 2, and Warri refineries undergoing refitting? Are they not going to provide the same petrol needed? What’s the game changer with Dangote refinery?

Abeg make we hear word.
Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by tommy589(m): 10:55am On Sep 07
lazkizz:
Nigeria revolution go worst pass Libya đŸ‡±đŸ‡Ÿ own.
Like 25 warlords will be controlling different parts of the country.

Many will lost their life . The British will try to re amalgamate the broken country but it won't work.
Neo colonialism will end after the brutal civil war, the middle belt will feel the heat more than any other region.

After some years each part will experience rapid growth and development, because they now control their resources.


Empires rise and fall. It is only a matter of time before this one too comes to an end.

I don't know what is going to trigger it,but this one has displayed the common symptoms that ended empires. We all are going to know how to cook when free meals end

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by hopexter(m): 11:00am On Sep 07
lazkizz:
Nigeria revolution go worst pass Libya đŸ‡±đŸ‡Ÿ own.
Like 25 warlords will be controlling different parts of the country.

Many will lost their life . The British will try to re amalgamate the broken country but it won't work.
Neo colonialism will end after the brutal civil war, the middle belt will feel the heat more than any other region.

After some years each part will experience rapid growth and development, because they now control their resources.

You’re simply delusional grin nice story though đŸ‘ŒđŸœ

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by Gerrard59(m): 11:07am On Sep 07
Give people alternatives like I had in Santorini. Divert away from excessive consumption of fuel and use the money saved to further enhance the public transportation system. When it is well developed, restrict the number of cars in all the CBDs using plate number codes. That way, people will be forced to leave the cars behind at home and use the public transportation system

Yes, as it's done in Singapore. Also make parking along the streets illegal unless at designated spots or spots owned by the building owners as it's done in Japan. I'm glad the Lagos train system is being developed as nothing beats a safe, affordable, clean, efficient and fast train network system in a densely populated area. Lagos, being Nigeria's richest and smallest state, is best positioned to implement these policies and infrastructure.

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by anonimi: 11:12am On Sep 07
Gerrard59:
Yes, as it's done in Singapore. Also make parking along the streets illegal unless at designated spots or spots owned by the building owners as it's done in Japan. I'm glad the Lagos train system is being developed as nothing beats a safe, affordable, clean, efficient and fast train network system in a densely populated area. Lagos, being Nigeria's richest and smallest state, is best positioned to implement these policies and infrastructure.

What is the experience of similar infrastructure in Lagos since 1999- the Oshodi bus terminal and BRT, for example

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by Flangelo12: 11:43am On Sep 07
PureFace1:


Not all stories have an happy ending

Even if the country get divided to ten parts tomorrow there's no guarantee that things will turn out well, the situation may be worse than Sudan and Somalia.

Reality is always different from how you guys usually predict things, this is not video game and fantasy, will dividing the country change the evil and corrupt nature of Nigerians ? how will dividing the country suddenly make Nigerians to change from their corrupt and greedy lifestyle ? Corruption, greed and selfishness are the core problems of Nigerians, it is what gave birth to the corrupt system we are using in Nigeria. Corrupt , greedy and selfish people can't create a fair and development oriented system, they will design something that they can exploit and something that suit their corrupt, greedy and selfish lifestyle.

Things will never change even if Nigeria get divided to 10 parts as long as the people themselves never change, more problems that's more troublesome and complex will sprang up in those new countries.



You've said it all.

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by Franking: 11:50am On Sep 07
Sonyboom765:
Over to obidient ipob

I bet you neither read nor comprehended the article....just to be noticed you quickly did what coconut heads have been doing....how much is fuel in your area? Rice nko? And other commodities. Ode.

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by LOVEALAIGBO: 12:39pm On Sep 07
PureFace1:


Not all stories have an happy ending

Even if the country get divided to ten parts tomorrow there's no guarantee that things will turn out well, the situation may be worse than Sudan and Somalia.

Reality is always different from how you guys usually predict things, this is not video game and fantasy, will dividing the country change the evil and corrupt nature of Nigerians ? how will dividing the country suddenly make Nigerians to change from their corrupt and greedy lifestyle ? Corruption, greed and selfishness are the core problems of Nigerians, it is what gave birth to the corrupt system we are using in Nigeria. Corrupt , greedy and selfish people can't create a fair and development oriented system, they will design something that they can exploit and something that suit their corrupt, greedy and selfish lifestyle.

Things will never change even if Nigeria get divided to 10 parts as long as the people themselves never change, more problems that's more troublesome and complex will sprang up in those new countries.



Rubbish!

Speak for yourself and ethnicity/region alone! If you can’t manage yourselves as a independent country of your own and need to depend on others to do so, that doesn’t mean others can’t! A independent Alaigbo/Biafra would be a million times better than ‘one Nigeria’! We will be able to pilot our own destiny and control our own resources, and wouldn’t be told we can’t be president of our own country for whatever dumbass reason! We would be able to prevent a far away ‘supreme court’ from imposing a visionless thug on us just so pharaohic-minded oppressors who despise anything Igbo can have control over us!

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by wizod(m): 12:53pm On Sep 07
lazkizz:
Nigeria revolution go worst pass Libya đŸ‡±đŸ‡Ÿ own.
Like 25 warlords will be controlling different parts of the country.

Many will lost their life . The British will try to re amalgamate the broken country but it won't work.
Neo colonialism will end after the brutal civil war, the middle belt will feel the heat more than any other region.

After some years each part will experience rapid growth and development, because they now control their resources.
indeed you're a prophet but some people will call you drunk. Neither flesh nor blood has revealed this to you because It must surely come.

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by Antony061(m): 2:16pm On Sep 07
lailo:
Tinubu is a genius, an uncommon human being. We real Nigerians understand, and appreciate his effort. We will be patient with him.

Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by Sonyboom765: 3:47pm On Sep 07
@at the emboldened is that the name your mother call your father at home ? Well, I am not your father so go met your mother to show you your father she labelled that name.

Franking:

I bet you neither read nor comprehended the article....just to be noticed you quickly did what coconut heads have been doing....how much is fuel in your area? Rice nko? And other commodities. Ode.
Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by Franking: 3:58pm On Sep 07
Sonyboom765:
@at the emboldened is that the name your mother call your father at home ? Well, I am not your father so go met your mother to show you your father she labelled that name.


At least my point hit home.
Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by PHAYOL81: 4:16pm On Sep 07
Aussie2doc:


https://thenationonlineng.net/lagos-rail-mass-transit-and-dangote-refinery-the-game-changer-in-the-midst-of-chaos/

Lagos don't have to convert BRT lanes to rail lines as each system is important. Perhaps, the advocacy should be on improvement, not eradication. After all, there are some couple of LRMT rail lines already planned to run inbetween the highways alongside vehicles, including the BRT. Perfect example are the BLUE LINES, about-to-commenced GREEN LINE, and the MONORAIL in the pipeline. So, BRT and Laswa LAGFERRY are systems that must not be sacrificed so as to encourage multiple options like the article claimed essential.

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Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by SunCafe: 7:11pm On Sep 07
You've asked critical questions and here are the answers:

what is the game that dangote refinery has changed and how has it changed the game?

A game can only be changed if you give it time to work. It's barely a year since Dangote refinery began it operations. Judgments cannot be made yet.

what are the limitations of government as an institution that citizens must acknowledge?

The limitations that citizens must acknowledge are the facts that (1) the Government has limited resources (finance) for its high population. (2) the country has low social development such as poor education which affects the population and in effect, leads to a delinquent population that create risks such as crime and corruption. These limit government's functions.

what help should Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens give to government?

Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens should help the government in areas of expertise where the government lacks. The government neither knows it all nor have it all and may be required to seek partnerships and support from these groups. The citizens who are passionate enough can help by participating in passive governance and also adhering to the rules of the land such as payments of taxes and obeying basic laws and orders.

where is it in the constitution that government supposed to get help from Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens?

It is not mandatory for the citizens, businesses or technocrats to help the government. It is completely optional. But it is stated in the constitution for every citizen to fulfill their obligation to the state by paying taxes and obeying the laws of the land.

is government helping Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens?
It is the governments responsible to help small businesses and every citizen in the country. The Nigerian government have made several efforts to help businesses and citizens but circumstances beyond its control frustrated some of these efforts. Examples of these circumstances are: inadequate financial resources, high population rate and a probable existing corruption system.

is it Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens that is supposed to be helping government or the other way around?
The government is supposed to help businesses and citizens. In a situation, the government is unable to make meaningful development in the state, it can invite high-revenue making businesses such as banks, corporations to support the government through a system called Public Private Partnerships. In a situation the government cannot help the citizens enough, the passionate citizens should become their own government by creating a community association in their respective communities and attend to little issues that the government cannot help them with.


lexy2014:


what is the game that dangote refinery has changed and how has it changed the game?

what are the limitations of government as an institution that citizens must acknowledge?

what help should Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens give to government?

where is it in the constitution that government supposed to get help from Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens?

is government helping Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens?

is it Businesses, technocrats and passionate citizens that is supposed to be helping government or the other way around?
Re: Lagos Rail Mass Transit And Dangote Refinery, The Game Changer. by sulaak(m): 8:50pm On Sep 07
adonainana:
Which stupid game changer is DANGOTE REFINERY

Someone got supplied crude oil in naira , refined it and instead of selling to the public, afterall the market has been deregulated.

The smart cunny simply supplies the NNPC with his petrol to determine price

In essence DANGOTE refinery never solved the problem

It simply went round the problem.

Now just like cement, DANGOTE is simply using NIGERIA NATURAL resources to run a business and make money for humself and his family.

Like I am sure everyone knows today if DANGOTE refinery burnt down and petrol stopped coming out, NNPC would simply go back abroad to import petrol for the country and sell at the same price DANGOTE refinery produced his.

SO WHAT EXACTLY was the point of the refinery

All the subsidies being paid to the different corrupt people is now simply being paid to DANGOTE.

Like IS THIS WHAT YOU MUMMUUU PEOPLE CALL A GAME CHANGER

Nigeria now has functional refineries, a Petrochemical plant, and a fertiliser plant in Lagos, a game changer. Nigeria now has two major petrochemical hubs, Lagos and Onne (River State)

We now need competition for Dangote

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