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Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by Steep(m): 8:57am On Sep 09 |
ocnovakmichael:So all the people that Paul mentioned their names were leaders of the church? So if Paul was just quoting the law , how come he said And so says the law also? Meaning the law was confirming it. You seems to make alot of assumptions, who says God didn't pour out upon all flesh? |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MightySparrow: 9:56am On Sep 09 |
MaxInDHouse: Note the bolded. Scriptural backing? 1 Like |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:42am On Sep 09 |
MightySparrow:Sound reasoning! Only a baptized individual is believed to be a Christian {Matthew 28:19} that's why Jesus' disciples were baptizing those that have agreed to become followers of Jesus! John 3:26 Christ is the head of every man while the man is the head of the woman it's wrong for the woman to lead men in sacred service just as no man can lead Christ during sacred service. 1 Corinthians 11:3-6 Angels are irritated when things aren't done appropriately and they can strike someone dead at the spot where sacred service is not taken seriously {2Samuel 6:7} so we must avoid irritating them by allowing females to take the lead {1Corinthians 11:10} so if it's only females that are baptized in the congregation then one qualified baptized female will lead the congregation during sacred service that's why she needs a covering to show respect for her head which are males in the congregation since she's not supposed to lead them in sacred service. 1Corinthians 11:3 May you have PEACE! |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 11:04am On Sep 09 |
MaxInDHouse: 🤣😂🤣😂😂 The woman is not keeping silent in the congregation afterall. That congregation is not of Jesus paapaa. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 11:13am On Sep 09 |
paxonel: You know that kind of regimented thinking that some have will make them see the world so black and white ![]() ![]() ![]() Regimented........ very strictly organized or controlled. When the law of free people is applied. The illustration above is no problem when regimented thinking is applied wahala dey. ![]() ![]() ![]() Women should be silent in the congregation not to even say Amen ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by Steep(m): 11:24am On Sep 09 |
MaxInDHouse:Read according to the context, Paul was speaking to the women of the church at Corinth because of their disorderly behaviour, he said "let your women keep silence" It does not mean women cant speak in the church but however not to disrupt service. |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 11:24am On Sep 09 |
TimiRume: That's the problem of regimented thinking about realities that surround us in the world. Instead of chasing ideals and shadows face reality.. Yes sir. Means.... She cannot teach them according to God's word and design. Then.... Can she guide them by expounding the scriptures to them? Your response.... Yes she can. The Lord is your shepherd indeed... The Lord is my shepherd; I have all that I need. He lets me rest in green meadows; he leads me beside peaceful streams. He renews my strength. He guides me along right paths, bringing honor to his name. Those who teach don't guide based on regimented kind of thinking. |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 11:27am On Sep 09 |
paxonel: Judges and prophets don't teach in their ideals, regimented and shadow chasing. In reality we know judges and prophets can teach. |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 11:30am On Sep 09 |
TimiRume: We know and have many account of prophets that teach, instruct and lead in your Bible. |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by Steep(m): 11:35am On Sep 09 |
Paul wasn't even imposing the law on them, but stressing the need for orderliness in the church which the law also says. Secondly, this has nothing to do with women doing the work of evangelism, or prophesying or teaching. As for women teaching, it is stated that a woman should not to teach or usurp authority to teach over a man. However, does that mean a woman can never ever teach no. For He said Titus 2:3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, What Paul addressed is a woman taking the place of a man to teach or exercise authority over him. It has nothing to do with evangelism, prophesying or any other ministry. |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 11:36am On Sep 09 |
paxonel: When we know prophet in the Bible teach. |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 11:41am On Sep 09 |
MightySparrow: Na rules and regulations of Jehovah's Witnesses be that. Funny people they asked baptised females to carry the microphone during their meetings all of a sudden they changed it and said they should stop it and give the assignment even to the unbaptised males in their congregation |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by Steep(m): 11:43am On Sep 09 |
StillDtruth:Wrong, eve is not lower than Adam, both Adam and eve fell into a lower position due to sin. Women were never lower than men neither in the past or present. 1 Like |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MightySparrow: 12:21pm On Sep 09 |
achorladey: The Governing Body and its gimmicks Sha! ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MightySparrow: 12:44pm On Sep 09 |
MaxInDHouse: Hahahaha 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃 ![]() ![]() ![]() 1. So contrary to Paul's instruction, in the absence of males, female can speak in a congregation so that the teachings of the kingdom of God does not suffer?! ![]() 2. Are you baptized in the accordance to Matthew and 28: 19 - 20 or according to Acts where folks were baptized in the name of Jesus? 1 Like |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 12:46pm On Sep 09 |
MightySparrow: Even male that are not baptized and not even Jehovah’s witnesses in their midst holds position that females baptised and therefore Jehovah’s witnesses can't hold |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 12:49pm On Sep 09 |
MightySparrow: The reason I laugh when their regimented kind of thinking ![]() ![]() ![]() 1. So contrary to Paul's instruction, in the absence of males, female can speak in a congregation so that the teachings of the kingdom of God does not suffer?! The same thing they are shouting others should not go against is what they are bending the the law to make it work in cases they have no control over ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MightySparrow: 12:49pm On Sep 09 |
achorladey: The delusional Governing Body and its delusional members. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MightySparrow: 1:18pm On Sep 09 |
achorladey: You see, this imperfect perfect people think others don't read the Bible and cannot think. 1Cor.14.34 - Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. Paul wrote to his own congregation, which were Gentiles writing different things for different occasions. The tenor of writing to Corinthians was different from Galatians and Thessalonians, even between Timothy and Titus. When Jesus was going away, he left one commandment: love. No one was an Apostle, Deacon, prophet, Bishop etc. No Laws was made about women in ministry. He handed those over to the Holy Spirit. That is where the challenge is. In the early church, folks did not even know which doctrines to preach. They had to hold a conference and concluded and wrote to the brethren: Acts.15.28 - For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; Acts.15.29 - That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. The issue of women in ministry was not final by Paul's writing here. He even drew from the Law to support his view. He was killed for teaching contrary to the Law! When the prophet talks about pouring of the Holy Spirit on both males and females. If the Holy Spirit is for witnessing and later other characteristics come out in the gifts, the Holy Spirit on males is for ministry and that on the female is for the kitchen and the 'the other room ' ![]() Why would God do that? It is true Paul was writing to Corinthians primarily but he claimed to 'know in part ' These conceited Governing Body and Hall goers are funny 🤣 maximumSide Janosky Others 1 Like |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:35pm On Sep 09 |
MightySparrow: My comment is about how we apply Paul's letter in my church so you too can apply it the way you believe in yours. I'm not forcing it on you rather you asked like an interested person after all the OP's question is what you too should have made a meaningful contribution to not just waiting for others! ![]() |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MightySparrow: 1:38pm On Sep 09 |
MaxInDHouse: Hahahaha. So your church is the datum for others. On whose authority? |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 1:39pm On Sep 09 |
MaxInDHouse: 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 His comment to your post is equally related to what the OP is talking about. |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 1:40pm On Sep 09 |
MightySparrow: The rules and regulations regarding the way the spirit works is under their care. |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:48pm On Sep 09 |
MightySparrow: This is why i hate responding to you because it's like you just want to argue with me at every given chance not that you are liberal. The OP asked question anticipating responses from believers and instead of you to say what you believe on the subject matter you left that following me as if i'm the person you're looking for on the forum. ![]() |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by paxonel(m): 1:50pm On Sep 09 |
achorladey:Yes, they do! Prophets who were also priests were in charge of the synagogue and they had the responsibility to teach the people the contents of the 10 commandments and the mosaic law. Even till today, prophets in churches do teach, so there is nothing wrong with that 2 Likes |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:51pm On Sep 09 |
Steep: Face Paul not me! ![]() |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by achorladey: 1:54pm On Sep 09 |
MaxInDHouse: 😂🤣🤣🤣😂 Even love get consequences not to talk of those who look down on others as nothing |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MightySparrow: 1:56pm On Sep 09 |
MaxInDHouse: You are my online teacher nah. I doff my cap SÃr! |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MightySparrow: 1:57pm On Sep 09 |
achorladey: See delusion Pro Max 1 Like |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:00pm On Sep 09 |
MightySparrow:It's OK you've just proved to me that there's no need for me responding to whatever you typed!
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Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by MightySparrow: 4:03pm On Sep 09 |
MaxInDHouse: I asked a question in another thread. To whom the sacrifice of Jesus was made? 1 Like |
Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by StillDtruth: 5:58pm On Sep 09 |
Steep: Then why all over the world do we see boys are better than girls/men greater than women? Or do you not see that the lowering is right there in one of the Curses she got? Or did you not see her Curse is more than the man's own? It is because female Adam was the first to sin and in her case, she sinned whole heartedly unlike male Adam who sinned because he loved his wife and not because he wanted to sin. As Christ is Highly Rated because He is The First Son, so also is Satan, Satan because he was the first to sin. And Cain, because he was the first to murder And Lamech because he was the first to commit polygamy. And Enoch because he was the first Righteous man... Like Satan, female Adam was the first man to sin and who got another man to sin along with her which is why we see that God does not want her near His Things. |
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