LordAdam16:


Imagine Harris on the 10th without Trump.
That'll have been way better for him.
I think the CNN debate disarmed him. He figured if CNN, his arch-enemies, could be fair to him; he should give ABC the benefit of a doubt.
That was a serious misstep.

-Lord

To me he did very well at the debate if I'm to score him on his performance 90% will be my grade. Accepting the abc news Show his willingness and courage to take up challenges and face his fears. At this point kamala doesn't have any rights to ask for a debate.

The Coward,Thug and Bully is now running away from more Debates.

Truly,The Dems did the very right thing by asking Biden to drop the Baton for a younger Person.

happney65:
The Coward,Thug and Bully is now running away from more Debates.

Truly,The Dems did the very right thing by asking Biden to drop the Baton for a younger Person.

hope you know she snubbed a fox news debate and again this is Trump's third debate. It disingenuous for you to say he is running from a debate!

My question remains, how many of Pence's known ideas were implemented under Trump? Or any past VP's ideas implemented for that matter.

I can't be too bothered whether you guys get it or not. Fact remains that Harris did not come to play according to you guys rules or expectations, especially when you guys' lord and master won't play by the same rules. She did what she wanted to do at the debate and left unscathed, I will leave you guys to decide whether Trump achieved the same or not.

It's good you Trump's supporters are not happy, it would have been bad for her if you were. So you can cry blue murder for as long as you want... It matters not to her that she beat Trump to his own game.

The undecided and those who have ears to hear her got her messages loud and clear. Whether she convinced them to vote for her or not shouldn't be Trump's supporters headache...or it should...

As dey say in Naija, if una no dey satisfied, "Go to court" or "una go explain tire"

BTW, who is going to tell Trump that Harris just addressed another very large crowd in NC? The crowd looks bigger than Trump's o

IjeBos:


Reading that was painful. So much broken logic.
Isn't it hilarious that I asked for why you think Biden underperformed and to give me specific policy and you did the same thing you accused Harris of doing, dodged, deflected and weaved, but never answered. Lol.
I misjudged you.
I can probably understand now why you think you are a liberal and are also a fan of Desantic and Vivek. You haven't really thought about it long nor really understand what the liberal philosophy is.

Because common sense is painful for you.

SpaceX:
To me he did very well at the debate if I'm to score him on his performance 90% will be my grade. Accepting the abc news Show his willingness and courage to take up challenges and face his fears. At this point kamala doesn't have any rights to ask for a debate.

He did well at the ABC debate.
But at FOX, she would have been manhandled.
And if she didn't accept FOX, she would have had a townhall on ABC and cratered.

-Lord

IjeBos:


If Harvard gave out degrees for catching clear typos or spell check mis-corrections(in other people's work, not your your own), you'd have a PHD.
Sadly, they don't and unfortunately for you that would have been the only way you'd ever step foot there.

Well, you put so much emphasis on things like this so shut up

raumdeuter:


Stop lying Harvard will never admit an illiterate like you. Unless you are a DEI hire

He once lived close to harvard in Boston and that's it.

ObaIgwe1:
My question remains, how It matters not to her that she beat Trump to his own game.

The undecided and those who have ears to hear her got her messages loud and clear. Whether she convinced them to vote for her or not shouldn't be Trump's supporters headache...or it should...

Stop deceiving yourself, what message did kamala pass across? Bunch of nothing! She was just blabbing the whole time.

Haitians are wrecking Springfield Ohio.

A Haitian killed a boy and his progressive father attacks people like Donald Trump and JD Vance for caring about his son's death. He says they are racists...

The man said he wished his son was killed by a 59 years old white man

This is how demented progressives are.

ObaIgwe1:
My question remains, how many of Pence's known ideas were implemented under Trump? Or any past VP's ideas implemented for that matter.

I can't be too bothered whether you guys get it or not. Fact remains that Harris did not come to play according to you guys rules or expectations, especially when you guys' lord and master won't play by the same rules. She did what she wanted to do at the debate and left unscathed, I will leave you guys to decide whether Trump achieved the same or not.

It's good you Trump's supporters are not happy, it would have been bad for her if you were. So you can cry blue murder for as long as you want... It matters not to her that she beat Trump to his own game.

BTW, who is going to tell Trump that Harris just addressed another very large crowd in NC? The crowd looks bigger than Trump's o

Good question in bold

Mike Pence is a core conservative, A religious one and what Nigerians will call Born again while Trump was the extreme opposite of that

When you see things like
Moving the US. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
Issuing guidance reaffirming that public schools must allow students to pray individually or in groups
Appointment of Judges who advance religious liberties like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and confirmation of conservative judges to federal courts
Support for the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives
Exemptions to the Obamacare's contraceptive mandate, allowing more employers and organizations to opt out of providing contraceptive coverage if it conflicted with their religious beliefs

Those are born again and Christian focused policies which Trump does not give 2 crap about but Pence used his office to push

In the Bush-Cheney regime, Those foreign policy and wars were largely pushed by Cheney

Now lets ask about Kamala in her 3.5yrs with Biden

IjeBos:


Yeah? Tell me more.
You are surely my favorite whipping boy.
So overconfident given what God bestowed you.
Like the little train that couldn't.

I'm sorry, you are an absolute dumbass.

Nice, your work now is to capitalize people's RIGHTING. You are almost 50 YO remember that

Konkoja:


It's interesting and sad at the same time. What would these mob do when Trump is defeated in November?

They will be totally depleted. We are gonna have quite a number of maga cultists telling us they never supported the rapist felon trump in the first place lol.

bemeruca:


Nice, your work now is to capitalize people's RIGHTING. You are almost 50 YO remember that

You see that he is a morron. When you wan laff just come here and read some of his insane posts

raumdeuter:


You see that he is a morron. When you wan laff just come here and read some of his insane posts

He brings me here. I like clowns 🤡🤡

happney65:
The Coward,Thug and Bully is now running away from more Debates.

Truly,The Dems did the very right thing by asking Biden to drop the Baton for a younger Person.

No more...Kamala has done well. One is enough

He wouldn't want to anyway knowing madam is good.

Na grandpa that he can plummet he prefers to debate 5 times or more with

bemeruca:
He brings me here. I like clowns 🤡🤡

He spent days crushing on the picture on my profile.

raumdeuter:


Good question in bold

Mike Pence is a core conservative, A religious one and what Nigerians will call Born again while Trump was the extreme opposite of that

When you see things like
Moving the US. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
Issuing guidance reaffirming that public schools must allow students to pray individually or in groups
Appointment of Judges who advance religious liberties like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and confirmation of conservative judges to federal courts
Support for the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives
Exemptions to the Obamacare's contraceptive mandate, allowing more employers and organizations to opt out of providing contraceptive coverage if it conflicted with their religious beliefs

Those are born again and Christian focused policies which Trump does not give 2 crap about but Pence used his office to push

In the Bush-Cheney regime, Those foreign policy and wars were largely pushed by Cheney

Now lets ask about Kamala in her 3.5yrs with Biden

Oh I get it.... What a contribution!

Well Harris introduced Chicken Tikka Masala dish to the white house, a very delicious Indian dish. She also made sure they serve Curry Goat in the menu every weekend with Reggae music in the background. If you visit Jamaica without eating Currie goat with Reggae music in the background, then you wasted your journey.

And all that Sari designs you saw lately on TV were inspired by Kamala.

Now the big question is how do all these bullshit you and I gave seriously improve the lives of an average Americans for them to thankfully praise these VPs?

In Kamala's voice; how many Americans are asking for these?

I asked for serious policy impact and you were telling about religion influence. Dayo get your head out of Trump's ass. You were better than this. I remember your quality debates and arguments in the politics section those years and now I shake my head when you defend the indefensible with Trump. You were smarter than this. Or agba ti de ni? But you are still a youth compare to Trump na.

My 1 cent.

raumdeuter:


He spent days crushing on the picture on my profile.

be careful before he pulls out his excel spreadsheet

ObaIgwe1:


Oh I get it.... What a contribution!

Well Harris introduced Chicken Tikka Masala dish to the white house, a very delicious Indian dish. She also made sure they serve Curry Goat in the menu every weekend with Reggae music in the background. If you visit Jamaica without eating Currie goat with Reggae music in the background, then you wasted your journey.

And all that Sari designs you saw lately on TV were inspired by Kamala.

Now the big question is how do all these bullshit you and I gave seriously improve the lives of an average Americans for them to thankfully praise these VPs?

In Kamala's voice; how many Americans are asking for these?

I asked for serious policy impact and you were telling about religion influence. Dayo get your head out of Trump's ass. You were better than this. I remember your quality debates and arguments in the politics section those years and now I shake my head when you defend the indefensible with Trump. You were smarter than this. Or agba ti de ni? But you are still a youth compare to Trump na.

My 1 cent.

Many people in the US are concerned about having conservative or liberal Supreme court justices, and they voted for those who will
You asking how it improved their lives Is like asking how abortion improved peoples life? Or how same sex marriages improved peoples lives

There are people in America who voted for Trump because of his promise to move the capital of Israel to Jerusalem. Many candidates promised it in the past and he delivered

Many people voted because of their religious choices. These are peoples lifestyle and what they want, this is why evangelicals supported Pence

There are people who are concerned that their religious freedoms are being eroded,


You are the one who cant defend your position. If there are people who voted Biden to have chicken Masala, Sari and Raggae music then tell us about the policies she implemented to push those

The point is Kamala should tell us her contribution to Bidens admin, We know she was made border Czar and it was a total disaster

Other VPs made their contributions to their admin, What did Kamala do for the past 3yrs

I used to be like you defending the Democrats too and supporting them blindly until I started thinking things through and saw through the lies and identity politics

IjeBos:


This was fair.
Some gripes. Abortion was probably one of Harris's best answers that night. Wasn't close. Trump was all to happy to not talk about it anymore. It's a lose lose. He loses more women or he loses his evangelical base.
As to the war casualties, she said women and children as she didn't want to get into trouble as men could be seen as combatants by some.

You are right, Harris did miss some good opportunities, a couple more than you mentioned. But part of it, is what she went into the debate to do. She wanted to do no harm. And you have to understand, that black people in the US are seen as Angry and temperamental, even more so black women. She was trying to walk the line of being tough but not being seen as an Angry Black person, or a temperamental woman or both. I think she pulled off what she wanted.

Yes, if Trump had all the ammunition Kamala did, he would have pummeled her with it, just like he bulldozed his way through the moderators. But that's because Trump is a white man who can get away with that and that's who Republicans and their base are.
But, there is no universe that this version of Trump beats Kamala. This was his one chance. She'll be more prepared, understand how to debate him, haven't done it, and she will have more confidence next time.

CNN is roasting Kamala for the same points I mentioned.. She dodge too many critical questions. She was only more presentable. As far as substance go, na stalemate.

SpaceX:
Stop deceiving yourself, what message did kamala pass across? Bunch of nothing! She was just blabbing the whole time.

If you watch the debate and you heard nothing about how she described the mess Trump left behind and how she and Biden cleaned it up, created millions of new jobs, reduced brother crossing, with crime rate much better than under Trump now, and how she listed the things she wanna do under her opportunity economy to build on what has already been achieved, then even if I repeat them to you 1000 times, you will still not get them. So don't bother.

Like I said, those who need to hear, like Taylor Swift have heard already.

raumdeuter:


Good question in bold

Mike Pence is a core conservative, A religious one and what Nigerians will call Born again while Trump was the extreme opposite of that

When you see things like
Moving the US. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
Issuing guidance reaffirming that public schools must allow students to pray individually or in groups
Appointment of Judges who advance religious liberties like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and confirmation of conservative judges to federal courts
Support for the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives
Exemptions to the Obamacare's contraceptive mandate, allowing more employers and organizations to opt out of providing contraceptive coverage if it conflicted with their religious beliefs

Those are born again and Christian focused policies which Trump does not give 2 crap about but Pence used his office to push

In the Bush-Cheney regime, Those foreign policy and wars were largely pushed by Cheney

Now lets ask about Kamala in her 3.5yrs with Biden

Lol. Most of this is nonsense. You just put up a list of some things Trump did and said Pence did them without any evidence.
Most of these were tradeoffs to get support of various groups esp. Evangelicals. The Supreme Court picks were pushed by the Federalist Society. David Friedman was behind the ISrael Embassy move,.
So much Bs.
VP's are largely inconsequential.

raumdeuter:

Many people in the US are concerned about having conservative or liberal Supreme court justices, and they voted for those who will
You asking how it improved their lives Is like asking how abortion improved peoples life? Or how same sex marriages improved peoples lives

There are people in America who voted for Trump because of his promise to move the capital of Israel to Jerusalem. Many candidates promised it in the past and he delivered

Many people voted because of their religious choices. These are peoples lifestyle and what they want, this is why evangelicals supported Pence

There are people who are concerned that their religious freedoms are being eroded,


You are the one who cant defend your position. If there are people who voted Biden to have chicken Masala, Sari and Raggae music then tell us about the policies she implemented to push those

The point is Kamala should tell us her contribution to Bidens admin, We know she was made border Czar and it was a total disaster

Other VPs made their contributions to their admin, What did Kamala do for the past 3yrs

I used to be like you defending the Democrats too and supporting them blindly until I started thinking things through and saw through the lies and identity politics

It's okay. I will leave you with your opinion. It will be a waste of time and energy explaining anything about Kamala to you.

BTW, I have never known you to support Democrats, well maybe Obama 1st term sa... But I followed one of your threads during the 2012 election campaign, and it was then I know you were a Republican.

I had an account as old as your dayokanu account. I deactivated it and opened this one after a long while. So know that I sabi you well well.

kkins25:


CNN is roasting Kamala for the same points I mentioned.. She dodge too many critical questions. She was only more presentable. As far as substance go, na stalemate.

And that was her goal. And because she was debating Trump who doesn't have ANY policies, I don't really care.
There is too much of a double standard with Trump.
What policies did he put out during that debate

Tell me what he said he would do about:
Health Care
Inflation
Middle East
Ukraine Russia

ObaIgwe1:


It's okay. I will leave you with your opinion. It will be a waste of time and energy explaining anything about Kamala to you.

BTW, I have never known you to support Democrats, well maybe Obama 1st term sa... But I followed one of your threads during the 2012 election campaign, and it was then I know you were a Republican.

I had an account as old as your dayokanu account. I deactivated it and opened this one after a long while. So know that I sabi you well well.

I was a Democratic supporter for many years. Those times when TayoD and Davidylan used to argue here. You can search some that the forum data wipe of 2014 didnt delete.
I was at Obamas victory night speech at Grant Park in Chicago in 2008, we literally had an all night celebration. By 2012. I liked both candidates and was neutral by 2014 I was fully Republican

There is a popular saying "‘If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain"

IjeBos:


Lol. Most of this is nonsense. You just put up a list of some things Trump did and said Pence did them without any evidence.
Most of these were tradeoffs to get support of various groups esp. Evangelicals. The Supreme Court picks were pushed by the Federalist Society. David Friedman was behind the ISrael Embassy move,.
So much Bs.
VP's are largely inconsequential.

Kamala was inconsequential does not make VPs inconsequential. Most of the policies especially the wars under W Bush were mostly pushed by Cheney. Only a dummy will say Cheney was an inconsequential VP or HW Bush was an inconsequential VP

Pence was the face of the Evangelicals and most of the religious leaning policies in that admin were championed by Pence. The economics were mostly Trump. Anything on immigration, Economy those were Trumps strong points. Trump doesnt care about most of the religious stuffs. Does Trump know people don't pray at school or he cares where the embassy is and the symbolism of it?

That Kamala was largely useless does not mean others before her were

Its like a girl who sleeps around claiming every girl is a slut. Kamala was an inconsequential VP, Now you are trying to spin that All VPs are inconsequential

ObaIgwe1:


If you watch the debate and you heard nothing about how she described the mess Trump left behind

covid did a lot of damage, you can't put all the blame on him!

and how she and Biden cleaned it up, created millions of new jobs,

most of the jobs were bounce back jobs!

reduced brother crossing,

we are witnessing record high border crossings that have never been seen!

with crime rate much better than under Trump now,

Wrong, you are lying! People are no longer report cases of crime that does mean it not happening!

and how she listed the things she wanna do under her opportunity economy to build on what has already been achieved,

Where is she going to get the moolah after blowing cash on Ukraine and Israel, this is the same tactics Joe Biden use to secure votes the last time with students loan and it ended up being a scam same with the above opportunity economy!

then even if I repeat them to you 1000 times, you will still not get them. So don't bother.

Like I said, those who need to hear, like Taylor Swift have heard already.

bemeruca:


The two do not look the same to me.

Bem, please look harder and believe basilico!

Tell him they not only look the same, but sources have receipts of her buying them, just that they don't want to release it yet because something something China Russia dump!

raumdeuter:


Kamala was inconsequential does not make VPs inconsequential. Most of the policies especially the wars under W Bush were mostly pushed by Cheney

Pence was the face of the Evangelicals and most of the religious leaning policies in that admin were championed by Pence

That Kamala was largely useless does not mean others before her were

Kamala had the worst VP approval rating in history before she became the nominee.

Why did they think she had such an atrocious job performance review.
Pundits were openly saying she was dragging Biden down and should be replaced.

Kamala has been a disaster.
Whether it's because she was the last one in the room for the fatal Afghan debacle and so walked side-by-side with Biden and owns the administration's failures.
Or because as she now wants to insinuate, she essentially sat idly by while Americans were pummeled by sky-high inflation, horrible housing and insurance costs, a wide-open border and outrageous influx of illegal migrants, and new wars raged in Europe and the ME.

Her actions and inactions contributed to the disastrous situation that the plurality of Americans recognize and want to change.
And when she had the opportunity to give an account of her stewardship (or lack thereof), she opted to disrespect the American population by deliberately punting questions and offering meaningless platitudes. She refused to offer an apology for her role in putting Americans through a horrible economic malaise and failed to elucidate her plans to restore the low-inflation, low-unemployment, booming economy and safe borders under the pre-pandemic Trump administration that Americans remember fondly.

-Lord

raumdeuter:


Kamala was inconsequential does not make VPs inconsequential. Most of the policies especially the wars under W Bush were mostly pushed by Cheney. Only a dummy will say Cheney was an inconsequential VP or HW Bush was an inconsequential VP

Pence was the face of the Evangelicals and most of the religious leaning policies in that admin were championed by Pence. The economics were mostly Trump. Anything on immigration, Economy those were Trumps strong points. Trump doesnt care about most of the religious stuffs. Does Trump know people don't pray at school or he cares where the embassy is and the symbolism of it?

That Kamala was largely useless does not mean others before her were

Its like a girl who sleeps around claiming every girl is a slut. Kamala was an inconsequential VP, Now you are trying to spin that All VPs are inconsequential

Again you got caught making shit up and have now moved to another angle. Why don't you post anything to back up what you posted, you can't.

You must have missed the "largely" part. There have some that have wielded more power. Cheney was one of course as he picked himself. But noone expects the VP to accomplish much as they just fulfill the policies of the President.

Again, you are being disingenuous.

They prefer Trump over Biden and kamala. this is embarrassing for the president and his vice
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