Jozzy4:


Olodo 🤣🤣😂😂😂

Stop adding finally, Jesus ascend once.

Emusan:


So was Jesus seen after THAT ASCENSION BY disciples with their NAKED EYES?

Jozzy4:
Boss 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

No proof, just vibes.

Jesus didn't even say I'm yet to ascend Finally to indicate he has ascended before . He said I'm yet to ascend . No finally o, Emusan dey cap nonsense

Luke still said he wasn't taken up until a set day. Emusan say e don go heaven before ascension , Confirm fraud 😂😂🤣

Jozzy4:


Fraud 🤣🤣🤣🤣

There is only one ascension not two.

Emusan:


Yes! "At this particular time" I'm not going to the Father.

Simple English that even a kindergarten will grab quickly.



'SET' where did Luke say that.

See the person who is castigating me for using the word FINALLY

Emusan:


So was Jesus seen after THAT ASCENSION BY disciples with their NAKED EYES?

Emusan:


Where did I say Jesus lied?

Provide your evidence!

Barristter07:
'The son does not know '- Jesus
Provide where Jesus said otherwise ? Until then, you remain a liar

Jozzy4:
There are how many ascension?

"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. "

Jesus died on earth and remain 3 days and night ON EARTH.
Didn't return to Heaven until the day he was taken to heaven.

You this Fraud 😂

Jozzy4:
Preach and teach UNTIL THE DAY HE WAs taken up to heaven.

Went to heaven on that day. " Until "

before that day he didn't. You this fraud 😂

Emusan:


The reason why you have been jumping up and down is because you know you already lost the battle as your father the Devil did.

Jesus was obviously talking about His BODY which there's no doubt as He Himself said He will be the one to RAISE THE BODY.

You complicated issue more for yourself as this proved that:

1. Jesus body was the actual one that was BACK TO LIVE SINCE THE BODY WASNIN THE HEART OF THE EARTH.

2. Jesus is fully aware location of the resting body and reason why He can bring it back to life.

3. Spirit of Man is actual separated from man.

Emusan:

So I never said Jesus lied, it's just your own false accusation.
The liar here is the one who is denying God and His word.

According to scripture:

Jesus knows ALL THINGS

THE HOLY SPIRIT KNOWS THE VERY MIND OF GOD, THE DEEP THINGS OF GOD and the THOUGHT of God.

Only a PERSON can know the THOUGHT of another person.

Jozzy4:
Fraud, He said you should present where Jesus said himself that he knows all things ?

He already present where he said with his own mouth that he doesn't know.

Holy spirit cannot know what Jesus said he doesn't know.

Jesus is the closest person to the Father. This is clarifying the truth that it's a force that proceed from the Father himself.

Spirit of man was also said to know the thoughts of man and yet it's not a Person/soul . Wake up.

Jozzy4:
"son of man will be in the heart of the earth"

Who is the Son of man?

Blasphemy! You are saying Jesus didn't die for sins. He just changed location 😂🤣🤣🤣

God the Father raised Jesus back to life ( 1Pet 1:3) the person called Jesus died. The bible said the Messiah pour his own SOUL UNTO DEATH. Not just a body. HIS SOUL as a PERSON died.

It was Jesus that was in the grave until ressurection. He didn't take himself to heaven until the day he was taken up ... He died on earth, rested as a dead soul on earth for three days , get ressurected as a living soul on earth, until the day he was taken up to heaven.

Emusan:


"Destroy this BUILDING and I'll raise it up...He is talking about His BODY"

Simple English.



O ma se ooo

So the BODY was alive!



So Jesus lied that He will RAISE the Body

Jesus also lied that He has the power to lay down His life and also TAKE it back.



The BODY was in the grave which is also Jesus
.

The SPIRIT can't die and is a person.

Emusan:


Smile....

See delusion.

Now, what the scripture says doesn't matter anymore just for your fraudulent ideas.

O ma se oooo...

That is your own understanding.

The scripture says the Holy knows the MIND OF GOD and the very THOUGHT OF GOD.

No inanimate object can know ANOTHER PERSON MIND.

To think ordinary FORCE knows the MIND of your god shows how powerless your god is.

That a force KNOWS the mind of your god should make you to be a shame of your god.

But for the great Yahweh, the God of the universe force is too small to know His mind talk less of His THOUGHT.

I repeat that was because spirit of man is also a PERSON.

Only a person have the ABILITY TO KNOW ANOTHER PERSON MIND.

You can't proof this wrong since.

Emusan:

That a force KNOWS the mind of your god should make you to be a shame of your god.

But for the great Yahweh, the God of the universe force is too small to know His mind talk less of His THOUGHT.

I repeat that was because spirit of man is also a PERSON.

Only a person have the ABILITY TO KNOW ANOTHER PERSON MIND.

You can't proof this wrong since.

Jozzy4:


The bold is the point. Jesus died and was in the grave. Not heaven.

@highlighted, Jesus was in the grave , Countless humans have died before Jesus came to earth and yet he still declared no man has ever been to heaven John 3:13 . Men don't have another person that go to heaven when they die. Its a force.

Emusan:


So I never said Jesus lied, it's just your own false accusation.

The liar here is the one who is denying God and His word.

According to scripture:

Jesus knows ALL THINGS

THE HOLY SPIRIT KNOWS THE VERY MIND OF GOD, THE DEEP THINGS OF GOD and the THOUGHT of God.

Only a PERSON can know the THOUGHT of another person.

Barristter07:

Your According to Scripture logic is wack , according to scripture , Jesus is a drunkard too since some people said it.

We know he said he doesn't know the day and hour, Counter- Provide where Jesus said he knows all things?

Spirit of man isn't a person , yet its said to know the thoughts of a man. Ecc 12:7 the spirit return to God who gave it . Self explanatory, spirit of man is an " it".

O ma se o

CAPTIVATOR:

Blowing Gaffe as usual. I read the chats and I could see how you have been making silly assumptions because you want to bail yourself out cheaply.

As Jozzy4 and Barristter07 requested, Show this thread where Jesus open his own mouth to contradict himself and claim to know all things , waiting. He isn't as deluded as you are to stoop that low and contradict himself.

Secondly


Genesis 3:19

" you are Dust"

" You [Adam ] are Dust"

Human beings are dust, that dust is the person. The spirit in them is not a person, it's breath. If It's a person, so Adam return to God in heaven after death? Many of una no just get sense for this life.

Jozzy4:

Why is this hard for you
Present where Jesus said he knows all things ?

Doesn't exist?

No one knows the Father like the Son. The implication is that nobody can know what the son declares himself that he doesn't know because that would mean someone else knows the Father than Jesus which is unscriptural and wrong. Holy spirit knowing in that refers to a force that proceed from the Father himself. Not a person. Spirit of man also know the things of man, yet it's not a person but his breath

Jozzy4:
The bold is the point. Jesus died and was in the grave. Not heaven.

@highlighted, Jesus was in the grave , Countless humans have died before Jesus came to earth and yet he still declared no man has ever been to heaven John 3:13 . Men don't have another person that go to heaven when they die. Its a force.

Emusan:


It was never the disciples who called Jesus DRUNKARD and Jesus clarified how he was not a DRUNKARD.

You see where you failed woefully.

The spirit of man is a PERSON that is why He can KNOW THE THOUGHT OF MAN.

No inanimate OBJECT have that ability.

Reason why you want it to be PERSONIFIED!

Like I said, just remove the nonsense PERSONIFICATION lens from eyes and see the true picture of God's word.

Barristter07:
The same way Jesus clarified he doesn't know the day and hour.

Now Provide where Jesus said he knows the day and hour ?

Spirit return to God who gave " It "

It - a thing. Be wise

Emusan:


So you have been doing hide and seek until that nonsense in your pushed you to come out

Yet Jesus didn't correct His own followers for CONTRAICTED Him and you think you know more than Jesus Himself.

If the disciples were wrong that Jesus actually KNOWS ALL THINGS it's Jesus duty to correct them not you Mr. ITK

Stop taking us back.

What I just want you people to proof now is WHEN INANIMATE OBJECT HAVE THE ABILITY TO KNOW THE THOUGHT OF A MAN.

Come with your scientific or whatever!

I'm waiting....

Reason why you people dubiously called it PERSONIFICATION

CAPTIVATOR:
Noise as usual.

So you can't provide where Jesus said he knows the day and hour as they have requested. Noted.

Secondly, Jesus had said the son doesn't know, that is final.

Nobody knows, not even the son, Only the Father.

Unless you want to make Jesus a Liar to support your devilish agenda

- Did Adam return to heaven when he died, or humans for that matter?

Secondly to return means you were where you returned to before, so Adam/humans exist in heaven before they are birth on earth?? U are just blowing Gaffe.

Spirit of man is his breath from God, which exist before man was created, same applies to the holy spirit , a thing, not a person.

Emusan:


So the scripture I have provided ARE ALL LIE, RIGHT
I've already dusted this and you should have seen that in your hiding place.

Again, this have been addressed.

Stop taking us back.

Jesus can never lie, He is not your father the Devil.

That is why Jesus didn't correct His own apostles because He knows They are TELLING THE TRUTH.

Unless you mean Jesus ENDORSED LIES for your evil delusion.

What is he saying here?



Incoherent jargons!

Explain yourself in a clear/plain English next time.



Spirit of man is a person reason why HE KNOWS the THOUGHT OF MAN

Same way the Spirit of God is a PERSON because HE KNOWS THE THOUGHT OF GOD.

I repeat NO INANIMATE OBJECT have the ability to know THOUGHT.

Untill you can proof this to be FALSE, stop taking us back to already done and dusted points.

Afterall, you read everything in your hiding place.

Emusan:


Now, grabbing straw!

I've told you, disciples made that statement b] after Jesus statement even Peter own [/b] was after resurrection

Come with another lie

Exhibit A. You can't provide anywhere Jesus himself said he knows all things. That has been established

Exhibit B : Jesus is not the Father, Jesus said Only the Father know, Just A SINGLE PERSON in the universe.

Scripture said Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS!
English is really your problem!

You need to learn it first.

CAPTIVATOR:
"Only the Father knows"

Is Jesus the Father ?

Prove yourself the liar you are now

All this noise just to evade the main point.

- men died before Jesus came to earth, yet Jesus declared none of them had gone to heaven. That automatically disqualified the idea that the spirit that left then is a person.

- If spirit of man that return to God who gave it, is a person, to " Return" means you are back to a position you previously occupied.

Does that mean Adam existed before he was created? Does that mean humans exist as in heaven before they are given birth to

Barristter07:

[i]Exhibit A. You can't provide anywhere Jesus himself said he knows all things. That has been established

Exhibit B : Jesus is not the Father, Jesus said Only the Father know, Just A SINGLE PERSON in the universe.

Emphasis on God gave " it". What God gave man as spirit in Genesis is a Breathing force .
" it" refer to inanimate thing.

Emusan:


Smile....

See how 'Jesus refuted their claim' went to dustbin

Do you agree Jesus ENDORSED the lie Hiw own apostles lie against Him?

And the scripture says JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS

So it's you 2ho doesn't understand Jesus, Jesus disciples understood Him and they know their MASTER KNOWS ALL THINGS.

That is why I said, you lack basic English. Deal with that first.