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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 1:45pm On Sep 13 |
Barristter07: @color truly shows how shameless and chronic liar you are. Jesus wasn't silent, rather commended them for their BELIEVE. O ma se ooo This is the evident that you people lie shamelessly. Exhibit A: Nowhere Jesus claim to know all things. The scripture says Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS. Just come out openly and say the scripture is FALSE since you people wanted to twist it that the apostles are liar. He reconfirmed this when he said there are times and season that only the Father Can Set by his authority. Act 1 because He knows HE KNOWS ALL THINGS. Spirit return to God who gave " it " The challenge, proof me wrong first that INANIMATE OBJECT HAVE THE ABILITY TO KNOW ONE'S THOUGHT. By continue to dodge this shows your lying mouth |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 1:45pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: Nothing was dusted, Only the Father know, not two people, not three, just one person. Straight from Jesus himself
Weak comprehension, Let me help you Ade Returned to Brazil means Ade has previously been in Brazil. You can't return if you didn't came from there. If spirit of man is a person that return, it means that person existed in heaven before birth. Which we know is False. What existed with God before man was created or given birth to is the breath of life. A force. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 1:48pm On Sep 13 |
CAPTIVATOR: That is why already dusted. Weak comprehension, Let me help you I repeat NO INANIMATE OBJECT have the ability to know THOUGHT. Untill you can proof this to be FALSE, stop taking us back to already done and dusted points. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 1:52pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan:Jesus is right that he doesn't know the day and hour , He will never contradict The apostles are mistaken Which thought ? Spirit of man doesn't even have a thought to begin with. Psalm 146:3,4 His spirit departs, he return to his ground, on that day his thoughts perish. The persons thought has perished, are you referring to a thoughtless spirit that return to God as Person? Height of delusion |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 1:54pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: Is Jesus mistaken at Matthew 24:36?
He gave a sound analogy, what returned to the Father ? A person that existed in heaven before birth or a force of life that existed before birth . |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:00pm On Sep 13 |
Barristter07: Keep going back and forth when the lying mouth got exposed. Let me repeat myself, Jesus was not lying and the same disciples he made that statement in their presence later ACKNOWLEDGED THAT JESUS ACTUALLY KNOWS ALL THINGS in which Jesus commended them for THEIR NEW BELIEVE. So, it is you who doesn't understand Jesus. He gave a sound analogy, what returned to the Father ? A person that existed in heaven before birth or a force of life that existed before birth . Keep dodging by guess what? I'll keep bringing it back Her it is! I repeat NO INANIMATE OBJECT have the ability to know THOUGHT. Untill you can proof this to be FALSE, stop taking us back to already done and dusted points. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 2:00pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: The son doesn't know , verified and documented statement from The son himself , anything that contradict this is an opinion of a Fallible man.
That is why I asked : Since the spirit of man is a person that return to Heaven, Do you accept it means we existed in heaven before birth? Very simple question |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:04pm On Sep 13 |
Barristter07: Here will go. And Jesus COMMENDED FOR THEIR MISTAKE Wa ooooo Just for you to keep deluding yourself you keep proving that you are the son of your father the Devil. Which thought? Your thought God's thought. Spirit of man doesn't even have a thought to begin with. See this delusional I've been wasting my time with. This your diversion tactics won't help you. You agreed the Spirit of man KNOWS THE THOUGHT OF MAN Now, back to my challenge! NO INANIMATE OBJECT have the ability to know THOUGHT. Untill you can proof this to be FALSE, stop taking us back to already done and dusted points. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:09pm On Sep 13 |
CAPTIVATOR: The scripture clearly said Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS Was that opinion of a FALLIBLE MAN? The fact that you people trying to spin this to mean the Apostles were WRONG and lair shows how desperate you people are to make God a liar. That is why I asked : Since the spirit of man is a person that return to Heaven, Do you accept it means we existed in heaven before birth? Very simple question My challenge is very simple: NO INANIMATE OBJECT have the ability to know THOUGHT. Untill you can proof this to be FALSE, stop taking us back to already done and dusted points. Since I've thrown this challenge, you people keep turning your blind eyes away. Can't you proof me wrong? Nobody asked you stories Mr storyteller |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 2:10pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: then He lied. He said only the Father knows when they are two that knows
"Return to God" This statement above is the proof that what God gave man isn't a person but a force . Do we exist as persons in heaven before birth and needed to return ? Or it's just a reference to breath of life ? Before u can be said to return to a place, you already been there. Cc: Captivator |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:14pm On Sep 13 |
Barristter07: And the scripture lied that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS. "Return to God" Now clinging to another straw man My challenge to you people is very simple. NO INANIMATE OBJECT have the ability to know THOUGHT. Until you can proof this to be FALSE, stop taking us back to already done and dusted points. It's evident they know INANIMATE OBJECT can't KNOW THOUGHT but they are just looking for diversion tactics and I won't allow that |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 2:15pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: Jesus said he doesn't know the day and hour. The apostles are the one mistaken, one of Jesus or his apostles is mistaken. I fully agree the apostles are the one mistaken since they are imperfect men, Jesus Statements are all perfect.
Spirit of man doesn't have a thought , not person ( psalm 146:3,4) , only personification can make a thoughtless force be given the ability to know . |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 2:19pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: Satans statement are also part of scripture, so that tactic won't work here. The apostles are mistaken that Jesus knows all things. Jesus is perfect and all his utterances are correct. Therefore Matthew 24:36 is true , not false
Since you claim spirit of man is a person that return to heaven it came from, what does it cost you to admit each person existed in heaven before they are given birth to ? |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 2:24pm On Sep 13 |
Barristter07: Simple. You can't return to where you haven't been. This person must have existed in heaven before man was created . Adam exist before Adam. Silly |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:25pm On Sep 13 |
Barristter07: Jesus didn't ENDORSED Satan statement. See the shameless lying and twisted mouth. So Jesus disciples and Satan are now on the same page. O ma se ooo Desperation at its peak. Since you claim spirit of man is a person that return to heaven it came from, what does it cost you to admit each person existed in heaven before they are given birth to ? See how this small challenge is keeping you people restlessness. Just to proof that INANIMATE OBJECT CAN KNOW THE THOUGHT is what hard you like this Well I'm waiting for your proof. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:28pm On Sep 13 |
Barristter07: What your delusion couldn't allow you to understand is that Jesus ENDORSED THEIR BELIEVE. IF they are mistaken then it means ENDORSED THEIR LIE AGAINST HIM. So much for you, see how Devil is playing ludo with your life. Spirit of man doesn't have a thought , not person ( psalm 146:3,4) , only personification can make a thoughtless force be given the ability to know . PERSONIFICATION AGAIN Clear that from your head first. Until then, let me know when you're ready |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 2:28pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: Any statement that contradict the words of a Perfect Jesus that wasn't born into sin is from a Fallible person. Jesus said He doesn't know the day and hour, is it Jesus that's lying?
Nobody turn a blind eye, the answer is that a force was personified. The consequence of saying otherwise is to admit people exist in heaven before their birth Can you return to where you haven't been? Is English this hard ? Just admit peope exist in heaven before Dey are born if you want to peddle this fabrication |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Iamanoited: 2:29pm On Sep 13 |
They better do. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 2:32pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: Provide where Jesus said he knows all things ? That is endorsement. He never did
Spirit of man doesn't have a thought , all thoughts perish at death, it's just a force ( Psalm 146:3,4) That is personification. Thoughtless spirit cannot know thoughts unless personified |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 2:34pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: Your effort to make Jesus a Liar at Matthew 23:46 is not working. Christ is perfect and his utterance solid. He doesn't know the day and hour
Do man's spirit have thought? no. That's the proof that inanimate object that doesn't have a thought can know when personified . |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:37pm On Sep 13 |
CAPTIVATOR: Let me repeat to your dull ears again Jesus made that statement in the presence of His disciples and the same disciples BELIEVED JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS Where your Antichrist doctrine failed is that Jesus ENDORSED their BELIEVE. Definitely it's you have problem to understand Jesus not His disciples which scripture confirmed that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS. Do you know how many diversion you people have created on this simple scriptural fact? Nobody turn a blind eye, the answer is that a force was personified. When you see the @color then know the know the TRUTH but decided to change it. Now you agree that NO INANIMATE OBJECT CAN KNOW THE THOUGHT OF MAN. Can you return to where you haven't been? Is English this hard ? The Body was from the ground and retuned to ground the spirit if from God and RETUNED TO GOD. Or you won't to deny that the spirit didn't RETURN TO GOD? |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:39pm On Sep 13 |
Barristter07: But HE KNOWS ALL THINGS That is the point. You know why you are trying to call the disciples FALSE because you know ALL THINGS included your confusion Do man's spirit have thought? no. Do you agree that NO INANIMATE OBJECT CAN KNOW THE THOUGHT OF MAN? since you can't take up the challenge, then answer that simple question. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 2:42pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: Where is the endorsement? Nowhere Jesus ever open his mouth and contradict himself at Matthew 23:46. Keep peddling the opinion of fallible men
It doesn't even have a thought, Barristter07 has emphasize this
God is in heaven. To return means it has been in heaven prior, Do you accept that people exist in heaven before their birth on earth ? |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 2:46pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: He said he doesn't know the day and hour, it would be a lie if there are two persons that knows and he claimed only the Father does. I refuse to make Christ a Liar like you are doing [/I] [i] Man's spirit doesn't have a thought!!!! Its thoughtless, how is a person without thought? Not possible. Absence of thought is proof it's a Force ( Psalm 146:3,4) All thoughts perish, it carries no thought! That's not a person! 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:47pm On Sep 13 |
CAPTIVATOR: So in your hiding place, you didn't read that and you jumped into what you don't know Opinion of FALLIBLE MEN IN JESUS PRESENCE with a BIG ENDORSEMENT BY JESUS How far can you people go just to make God and His word a liar? It doesn't even have a thought, Barristter07 has emphasize this Do you agree that INANIMATE OBJECT can't KNOW THOUGHT. See diversion tactics |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:49pm On Sep 13 |
Barristter07: And the scripture says HE KNOWS ALL THINGS Reason why you want the disciples to be LIAR like you. [i]Man's spirit doesn't have a thought!!!! Its thoughtless, how is a person without thought? Not possible. Absence of thought is proof it's a Force ( Psalm 146:3,4) The question is very simple. Do you agree that INANIMATE OBJECT can't know THOUGHT? This your diversion tactics won't work here. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 2:56pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: There only exist a contradiction of such opinion not endorsement, Show this thread where Jesus open his mouth to claim he knows all things ? None exist
Inanimate object can know thoughts , can cry, can clap, can express Joy when personified. If it's not personified - You agree people exist in heaven before birth. Which is false If it's not personified - You agree thoughts of men don't perish at death, another False |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 2:59pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: So it's now Jesus that is lying only the Father knows ? Let me get you clearly Explain the statement " only the Father know " That Devil just want you to call your Lord a liar
It can. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:03pm On Sep 13 |
CAPTIVATOR: That is why you people have been calling Jesus and His apostles a liar. The fact is, the disciples in whom Jesus made that statement in their presence knows more than you and that is why God used them because THEY ARE TRUSTWORTHY not a liar. Inanimate object can know thoughts , can cry, can clap, can express Joy when personified. My focus is @color.... When you're okay, let me know. For now you have not answer my question. Can INANIMATE OBJECT have the ability to know THOUGHT? If it's not personified - You agree people exist in heaven before birth. Which is false Remove the PERSONIFICATION first so that you will see road and be okay then the discussion can continue |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:07pm On Sep 13 |
Barristter07: Already answered multiple times. Explain the statement " only the Father know" The Father knows, the Son Knows and The Holy spirit knows because THEY ARE ONE. Reason why scripture says Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS The Holy spirit KNOWS THE MIND OF GOD AND THE THOUGHT OF GOD. It can. Then that makes the Spirit to be a PERSON. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:21pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: Jesus said only the Father know the day and hour , do you believe this ?
Okay I remove the personification, you are agreeing people are in heaven before they are born ? Ecc 12:7, Cos spirit of man can't return to to a place it hasn't been before. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 5:22pm On Sep 13 |
Emusan: Relax the Lies, I know it's an hobby, but relax. ' ONLY The Father knows 'Matt 24:36 One person. Thank you.
It doesn't know the day and hour , how could it be a person? That means two persons know the day and hour and Jesus said it's only one person ? 1 Like |
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