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Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Kobojunkieee: 4:43pm On Sep 13
Jangbajantis:
Marketers are running away because of Naira low value. If we go by former exchange rate, fuel price should be around N300 to N450 per litre now without subsidy.
Why in the world would you even concern yourself with this former exchange rate? Was the crude oil, and every other input, used in producing the fuel bought at this former exchange rate you concern yourself with? Are Nigerians to pay their 7.5% tax when buying fuel by the former exchange rate as well? Sheeeesh! undecided
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by zikter(m): 4:45pm On Sep 13
nairalanda1:
NIgerians do not want to pay market price for petrol....that is why we are having all this long grammer about Dangote doing emotional blackmail.

The thing is, Tinubu's government does not want to admit that they have been paying subsidy and they have to remove it for petrol to flow. Because it means prices go up, and their chances of winning in 2027 go away.

Nigerians as a whole do not want cheap fuel to end. There are the subsidy cabals, the smugglers, and most poor Nigerians.

Infact, subsidy is one of the few things the elite and the poor agree on. It benefits both of them...at the expense of economic progress and development of a domestic refining capacity.

Cheap fuel is what isdriving this whole thing. No Nigerian wants to pay N1500 for a liter of fuel, as it means that the subsidy is truly gone. But attempting to keep fuel cheap is hurting NNPC, who right now are scraping the barrel to pay for it. Their barrels, not the government. And they are at a point where they cannot keep scraping the barrel.

Subsidy should go. It's time to end the five decade old charade. But I know Nigerians...we would sacrifice our economy to Molech rather than do the sane and right thing. After all, we want N20 FUEL.
In as much as I agree with you, I want to add that, the foundation of all of these challenges is endemic corruption. We wouldn't be talking about subsidy if policians and people in government have not embezzled our common wealth, impoverishing the majority. The purchasing power of the masses would not be this weak if not because of the criminal acts of corruption. Head or tail, this government is in deep problems itself, especially their second term ambitions. So, it is a headache for them as you rightly said. It is a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea. For the masses, remove the subsidy let politicians feed fat on the gains and the masses continue to suffer more or continue with the subsidy at the detriment of the economy. For the politicians, keep the subsidy and remain a bit good in the books of the masses, or remove it and have hard times to continue in power
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Slymontee: 4:45pm On Sep 13
Shadomaan7:
The guy should just shut up. He is making no sense
Then make your own sense now let's compare!
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Jangbajantis: 4:52pm On Sep 13
Kobojunkieee:
Why in the world would you even concern yourself with this former exchange rate? Was the crude oil, and every other input, used in producing the fuel bought at this former exchange rate you concern yourself with? Are Nigerians to pay their 7.5% tax when buying fuel by the former exchange rate as well? Sheeeesh! undecided
You're still thinking about what's right and what's wrong. The sooner you understand that this country is a business centre - and the Fed. govt. is the major shareholder - the better for you.
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Kobojunkieee: 4:55pm On Sep 13
Jangbajantis:
■ You're still thinking about what's right and what's wrong. The sooner you understand that this country is a business centre - and the Fed. govt. is the major shareholder - the better for you.
Answer the questions please. undecided
► Why in the world would you even concern yourself with this former exchange rate as of 2023(or were you considering the exchange rate before Buhari took office about 9 years ago) when we are in 2024?
► Was the crude oil, and every other input, used in producing the fuel bought at this former exchange rate you concern yourself with?
► Are Nigerians to pay their 7.5% tax when buying fuel by the former exchange rate as well? Sheesh! undecided
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Jangbajantis: 5:01pm On Sep 13
Kobojunkieee:
Answer the questions please. undecided
► Why in the world would you even concern yourself with this former exchange rate as of 2023(or were you considering the exchange rate before Buhari took office about 9 years ago) when we are in 2024?

Pre-Buhari era is far. I'm talking about the four last tenure of the outgoing govt.

► Was the crude oil, and every other input, used in producing the fuel bought at this former exchange rate you concern yourself with?
I don't really understand your, but ask yourself why marketers have been lamenting over landing cost.

► Are Nigerians to pay their 7.5% tax when buying fuel by the former exchange rate as well? Sheesh! undecided
Ask APC govt.
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by lexy2014: 5:07pm On Sep 13
DevilsEqual:
cheesy

Those with null Knowledge about everything would attack this Expert and tell us how the FG is tryna sabotage Dangote, but the truth is...


Judging by the recent statements from IPMAN and NNPC, its obvious that Dangote is playing an Hanky-Panky game of setting everybody up against each other, while using the emotional blackmailing tactics to win the masses to his side and still use their sympathy to fix PMS at a high price



Dangote has reached out to everyone one, yet he still hasnt make his price known during the process

Why then did nnpc insist on being the sole buyer of dangote fuel?
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by bdon123(m): 5:25pm On Sep 13
Islie:
Dangote Refinery playing emotional blackmail, Nigerians swallowing it – Financial expert



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He is right,i hav been a supporter of dangote wit no regrets frm d beginning especially wen he was denied crude.However,je has started petrol production now n he has never for once mentioned d price he is willing to sell to nnpc or marketers.Also, recently his manager said their diesel was boycotted....in naija there is no subsidy on diesel that's why it has always been significantly more expensive than petrol.
How can marketers not patronize ur diesel if d price is lower than landing price of same diesel to naija.
It makes no sense here..
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by ALTERNATEID: 5:27pm On Sep 13
F117nighthawk:
The reason the government easily deceive and scam many of u with lies,they send all manners of people to social media to write all manner of rubbish to support their criminal acts
This same man had been selling diesel and jet A1 from his refinery for months now we didn't hear this story,why because diesel and aviation fuel has been deregulated,he want to start selling petrol now we dey hear all manner of stories because petrol is being subsidized and they want the subsidy scam to continue.the same NNPCL who have been opaque and not transparent to Nigerians all the years they have been importing fuel,now playing all manner of games because the local refinery doesn't belong to them and every kobo of sale and refined products can be accounted for,hence the tricks and corrupt practices will be exposed and buried by Dangote refinery.
Does common sense not tell us why NNPCL choose to continue to import petrol for over 30yrs and having spent over 20 billion dollars for turn around maintenance yet no refined product coming out of the government refinery?
And besides why do u think NNPCL want to have a permanent office stationed inside DANGOTE REFINERY?

Who want the subsidy scam to continue? Nigerians who don’t want to buy PMS at the actual market price or NNPC that told Dangote to sell directly to marketers on a willing buyer and seller basis?
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Elliotwaveforec: 5:36pm On Sep 13
Summary of the whole thing:

Dangote wants to sell at a reduced price but government doesn't want him to do so.
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by F117nighthawk: 5:39pm On Sep 13
Which NNPC told the marketers to buy
at what price?
Same NNPC that want to control price at which Dangote will sell to continue their subsidy scam?why have they not agreed on a price since over a week that NNPC increase local price?why did NNPC request the have an office for their officials at Dangote refinery?so na this NNPC that has been a problem and lack transparency for many years you want to trust or believe their words? Why didn't they have issues on diesel selling at Dangote refinery because that has been deregulated


Who want the subsidy scam to continue? Nigerians who don’t want to buy PMS at the actual market price or NNPC that told Dangote to sell directly to marketers on a willing buyer and seller basis? [/quote]
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Benmsu: 5:49pm On Sep 13
If we swallow it how e take concern you
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by chidiokay: 5:59pm On Sep 13
DevilsEqual:
cheesy

Those with null Knowledge about everything would attack this Expert and tell us how the FG is tryna sabotage Dangote, but the truth is...


Judging by the recent statements from IPMAN and NNPC, its obvious that Dangote is playing an Hanky-Panky game of setting everybody up against each other, while using the emotional blackmailing tactics to win the masses to his side and still use their sympathy to fix PMS at a high price



Dangote has reached out to everyone one, yet he still hasnt make his price known during the process


if FG is not trying to sabotage Dangote why creat artificial scarcity and hike pump price just when dangote was ready to roll out fuel
,Did NNPC not libel dangote fuel inferior , did Nnpc not renege on shares agreement

Asides NNPC widely spread landing cost, any credible verification, considering NNpc antecedence can NNPC be trusted

Is it not ridiculous that NNPC that could not operate it own four refineries is giving dangote condition to oversea its operation

The news that broke out that major oil importers wrote to the president that dangote crashing the diesel price is counter productive and not favourable to them is enough hint NNPC is the enemy of Nigerians.

NNPC insisting to have staffs in Dangote office reeks of a trojan horse strategy an attempt to either cover there tracks or distabilize dangote from inside
Dangote crashed diesel to 900 who needs hanky panky
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by chidiokay: 6:06pm On Sep 13
Ttalk:
That Vice chairman of Dangote want to use Indian sense on Nigeria, Saying marketers don't want to buy their cheap PMS. Which kind lie be this na, abi em think say na Zeeworld im come act for Nigeria ni.

Nigerians don't want to take shit either from NNPCL or from Dangote, we would hold Tinubiu and Dangote responsible for any reason that makes PMS expensive in Nigeria


Did you say lies, how do explain the petition that was written to the presidency


Dangote crime .. he crashed diesel to 900 🤣🤣🤣

they even had guts to say it, how is cheap diesel counter productive.

naa ogun go kill una loved ones
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by teepain: 6:06pm On Sep 13
jaxxy:


If dangote tells the public how much he's selling his fuel it will be game over for NNPCL... undecided

This assertion flies in the face of logic. If the Dangote is serious and honest, let him sell to neighbouring countries. From there, we would see if his PMS will be cheap. Infact, if he sells cheaper fuel to Benin Republic for instance, we should witness a situation where the smuggling of subsidized fuel from Nigeria would cease.
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by rajiedreez: 6:06pm On Sep 13
Sure he should announce the price, at least he did so when he started selling his diesel
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Kobojunkieee: 6:08pm On Sep 13
chidiokay:
■ Did you say lies, how do explain the petition that was written to the presidency Dangote crime .. he crashed diesel to 900 🤣🤣🤣 they even had guts to say it, how is cheap diesel counter productive. naa ogun go kill una loved ones
How did he crash the price to Naira 900 when the NNPC price of Petrol is currently Naira 858.00? 🤔

By the way, Dangote has yet to publicly announce any price to this moment we speak. 🤔
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by jaxxy(m): 6:13pm On Sep 13
teepain:


This assertion flies in the face of logic. If the Dangote is serious and honest, let him sell to neighbouring countries. From there, we would see if his PMS will be cheap. Infact, if he sells cheaper fuel to Benin Republic for instance, we should witness a situation where the smuggling of subsidized fuel from Nigeria would cease.

I thought u guys say they have removed subsidy??

Anyways he already said he can sell to other countries if we snub him. He just needs to name his price but NNPCL won't allow him.
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by chidiokay: 6:17pm On Sep 13
thesicilian:
If your product is better and/or cheaper, why would marketers prefer to import instead? There's something they're not telling us.


ALOL ! is it difficult to figure ..there is so much secrecy and cost padding around importation nobody knows

landing cost is whatever NNPC says it is, despite issuing license they ensure nobody import, just so they enjoy secrecy

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Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by chidiokay: 6:22pm On Sep 13
stuffs4me:



I totally agree with you.

I knew Dangote was playing the emotional game when he presented his transparent petrol in a bottle because every petrol is actually transparent at the time of refining but was dyed to give it that colour. Dye and odour are usually added to most liquids that come out looking like water. this is done to prevent humans from accidentally swallowing the dangerous fluids.

Petrol from Dangote refinery must be dyed as that is an international regulation and there is no amount of emotional blackmail that will exempt him from dying his own petrol too.


i cant believe any sane person will pick side with an enterprise that owns four refinery and cant even revive one to work,

An enterprise that declared profit and after days declare they are owing 6.6billion debt kiss
some of you are very sick i swear
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by chidiokay: 6:26pm On Sep 13
Kobojunkieee:
How did he crash the price to Naira 900 when the NNPC price of Petrol is currently Naira 858.00? 🤔

By the way, Dangote has yet to publicly announce any price to this moment we speak. 🤔


i knew you are not intelligent when i saw your comment .... is the petition about fuel or diesel
will they wail about price of fuel, dangote is yet to announce ... i even mentioned diesel 900

you can't support these yeye govt and not make a fool of yourself
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Kobojunkieee: 6:33pm On Sep 13
chidiokay:
■ i knew you are not intelligent when i saw your comment .... is the petition about fuel or diesel
will they wail about price of fuel, dangote is yet to announce ... i even mentioned diesel 900 . you can't support these yeye govt and not make a fool of yourself
Nevermind then! This particular topic is regarding the price of fuel, not diesel. I thought that reference to diesel of yours was made in error. undecided
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by CodeTemplarr: 6:42pm On Sep 13
Dangote owes no one fuel price. Let those who have bought from him be asked how much they got it from him. The same way they announced that landing cost of PMS is N1117, they should annoumce what Dangote is selling for?
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by CodeTemplarr: 6:44pm On Sep 13
rajiedreez:
Sure he should announce the price, at least he did so when he started selling his diesel
let those who have purchased his petrol tell us also. At least they announced landing cost of the ones they were subsidizing before Dangote started refining.
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Segzy19: 7:06pm On Sep 13
I have said it before that Dangote is being half clever.... But no many people understand what is going on..... Dangote should just do the right thing once and for all but then he is playing games
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by lithiumnigeria: 7:50pm On Sep 13
wirinet:


Flesh and blood did not reveal thus secret to you but the holy spirit. Refinery business around the world is not a profitable business, unless of course you secure a source of cheap crude, either by stealing or other underhand tactics.
Why dangote decided to pump in billion of dollars into the refinery business instead of other more profitable and less volatile business is a mystery to me.
You must be very smart, running financial models of these processes is what I do for a living. Infact, revealing these tips is a disservice, you can’t resist the urge attimes.
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by vertueptime: 8:00pm On Sep 13
The analyst is an idiot

Islie:
Dangote Refinery playing emotional blackmail, Nigerians swallowing it – Financial expert



https://dailypost.ng/2024/09/13/dangote-refinery-playing-emotional-blackmail-nigerians-swallowing-it-financial-expert/
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by vertueptime: 8:00pm On Sep 13
The analyst is an ediot
Islie:
Dangote Refinery playing emotional blackmail, Nigerians swallowing it – Financial expert



https://dailypost.ng/2024/09/13/dangote-refinery-playing-emotional-blackmail-nigerians-swallowing-it-financial-expert/
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by teepain: 8:01pm On Sep 13
jaxxy:


I thought u guys say they have removed subsidy??

Anyways he already said he can sell to other countries if we snub him. He just needs to name his price but NNPCL won't allow him.

Who are the "you" that you refer to in your statement? I am sure that you must be mistaken.
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Joybeau: 8:14pm On Sep 13
affable4:
After reading all the post on this thread, I’m made to believe that we don’t really know what’s happening in this country.

Forget the monopoly and government support enjoyed by Dangote over the years. The problem we are faced with right now is how the present government wants to keep generating revenue from petroleum sales to its citizens.

You're not outrightly correct. Dangote is the one who wants just the NNPC to be its sole offtaker. And NNPC have made it clear they do not have the intention to be Dangote's sole offtaker. Just as I wonder, is it not supposed to be an open market? Why forcing just one business entity to be your sole distributor? Is that not monopoly. NNPC have declared that Dangote should sell to others that they do not have the intention of being its sole distributor.
Furthermore, even the Independent Marketers declared interest to buy from Dangote if its petrol price is lower than NNPC's imported petrol but Dangote is contradicting himself by saying Independent Marketers are not buying from him though his price is relatively cheaper.
What sort of contradiction is that?
Dangote is indeed playing emotional blackmail. Take it or leave it

We all deduced that PMS ought to be cheap if produced locally. Everyone is fighting to make sure the price is pushed as high as possible to keep the revenue coming.

For me, the government is the one blackmailing Dangote. Why would NNPCL want to be the sole distributor of a locally produced PMS? Just to keep the price bondage going.

Dangote said NNPCL will fix price. That tells a lot.

Let’s keep pretending like the people we have in the helms of affairs actually have the interest of the masses at heart.

We claim to be so intelligent, but we are often deceived by unintelligent lies.
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by stuffs4me(m): 8:45pm On Sep 13
chidiokay:



i cant believe any sane person will pick side with an enterprise that owns four refinery and cant even revive one to work,

An enterprise that declared profit and after days declare they are owing 6.6billion debt kiss
some of you are very sick i swear


If only you could read.
Re: Dangote Refinery Playing Emotional Blackmail, Nigerians Swallowing It – Adeoti by Lookmun: 9:51pm On Sep 13
nairalanda1:
NIgerians do not want to pay market price for petrol....that is why we are having all this long grammer about Dangote doing emotional blackmail.

The thing is, Tinubu's government does not want to admit that they have been paying subsidy and they have to remove it for petrol to flow. Because it means prices go up, and their chances of winning in 2027 go away.

Nigerians as a whole do not want cheap fuel to end. There are the subsidy cabals, the smugglers, and most poor Nigerians.

Infact, subsidy is one of the few things the elite and the poor agree on. It benefits both of them...at the expense of economic progress and development of a domestic refining capacity.

Cheap fuel is what isdriving this whole thing. No Nigerian wants to pay N1500 for a liter of fuel, as it means that the subsidy is truly gone. But attempting to keep fuel cheap is hurting NNPC, who right now are scraping the barrel to pay for it. Their barrels, not the government. And they are at a point where they cannot keep scraping the barrel.

Subsidy should go. It's time to end the five decade old charade. But I know Nigerians...we would sacrifice our economy to Molech rather than do the sane and right thing. After all, we want N20 FUEL.
Try to try to be honest!

You are blaming payment of subsidies for non-functional refineries when there have been various rounds of turn around maintenance that ended up turning nothing around despite the multi-billions that went into these activities. How much more do they need? This is aside the billions that go into salaries and emolument for non functional facitlites. You gotta tell yourself the truth. You are saying that the refineries will work if we are made to pay N1500 per liter? Please tell yourself the truth.

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