Barristter07:
Relax the Lies, I know it's an hobby, but relax.

' ONLY The Father knows 'Matt 24:36

One person.

Thank you.

I'm not the one who called the Apostles and the scripture liar. You did.

I'm jot the one who called something obvious PERSONIFICATION for dubious reason. You did.

According to the scripture Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS

The Holy spirit KNOWS THE MIND OF GOD AND THE VERY THOUGHT OF GOD

Reason you called the Apostles liar and inserted PERSONIFICATION multiple times.

Like I said, remove the lens of that your delusion of PERSONIFICATION and we the TRUTH God revealed in His word.

It doesn't know the day and hour , how could it be a person? That means two persons know the day and hour and Jesus said it's only one person ?

But He KNOWS ALL THINGS

Like I've said several times, the disciples in whom Jesus made that statement are the very one who acknowledged that Jesus actually knows ALL THINGS.

To even add more to your injury.

In that John 16, Jesus was telling His that "He always use PARABLE to discuss with them but a time is coming when He will PLAINLY talk about the Father"(paraphrase) it was at this point the disciples then BELIEVED that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.

Let me stop here first

CAPTIVATOR:
Jesus said only the Father know the day and hour , do you believe this?

I've already discussed this multiple times you just want to be dragging me back.

Okay I remove the personification,

Good let the scripture speaks for itself.

So, you can see that without PERSONIFICATION delusion, the scripture is talking about PERSON.

No INANIMATE OBJECT has the ability to know THOUGHT only a person does.

you are agreeing people are in heaven before they are born ? Ecc 12:7, Cos spirit of man can't return to to a place it hasn't been before.

God gave human SPIRIT and that is why the scripture is very correct that the same SPIRIT RETURNED TO WHO GAVE IT.

You decide where God is.

Emusan:


I've already discussed this multiple times you just want to be dragging me back.

Chill, the statement said " only"
Let me repeat it again

" ONLY "

According to the dictionary, Only when used in a sentence means THERE ARE NO OTHERS in that class.

So Jesus said ONLY the Father knows, ( which automatically means Jesus don't know and holy spirit don't know );

Do you Emusan believe this statement that Only the Father knows ? Yes or No!

Good let the scripture speaks for itself.

So, you can see that without PERSONIFICATION delusion, the scripture is talking about PERSON.

No INANIMATE OBJECT has the ability to know THOUGHT only a person does.

God gave human SPIRIT and that is why the scripture is very correct that the same SPIRIT RETURNED TO WHO GAVE IT.

You decide where God is.

Psalm 115:3 OUR GOD IS IN HEAVEN

The spirit return to God

God dwell in heaven.

Spirit return to where it came from.


Implication: The spirit person lives in heaven before he was given .


The question arises: So this person's exist in heaven before their birth? Adam existed in heaven before he was created ?

Emusan:

The BODY died.

The body is the man that died. The spirit is his force of life.

Another nonsense to start giving you Bible study again.
The Spirit RETURNED TO GOD.
Says the Holy book.

That spirit is breath. Common knowledge

John 8:23
But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above"

Anybody claiming spirit that return to God is a Person is claiming we are also from above. Do humans also lived as spirit person's before they are born ? You don smoke weed Emusan.

Spirit of man is a force just as holy spirit is a force.

CAPTIVATOR:


Chill, the statement said " only"
Let me repeat it again

" ONLY "

According to the dictionary, Only when used in a sentence means THERE ARE NO OTHERS in that class.

So Jesus said ONLY the Father knows, ( which automatically means Jesus don't know and holy spirit don't know );

Do you Emusan believe this statement that Only the Father knows ? Yes or No!



Psalm 115:3 OUR GOD IS IN HEAVEN

The spirit return to God

God dwell in heaven.

Spirit return to where it came from.


Implication: The spirit person lives in heaven before he was given .


The question arises: So this person's exist in heaven before their birth? Adam existed in heaven before he was created ?

Emusan is on weed

Emusan:

You decide where God is.

This is the highest of delusion.

So where is God's throne ? Heaven.

Mumu man


The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth.

Finally humans come from ABOVE, we don't belong to the earth, since they are also spirit person's before they were born. Is your reasoning this low ?

Jozzy4:


This is the highest of delusion.

So where is God's throne ? Heaven.

Mumu man


The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth.

Finally humans come from ABOVE, we don't belong to the earth, since they are also spirit person's before they were born. Is your reasoning this low ?

You people are just too dull!

The BODY is what belongs to the EARTH which is the PHYSICAL PART AND MARKS our identity in physical world.

The SPIRIT is the spiritual aspect of human that can allow us to RELATE WITH SPIRITUAL WORLD.

The SPIRIT IS A PERSON that is why the Spirit has ABILITY to KNOW THOUGHT no inanimate object can NO THOUGHT.

Knowing this fact is the reason why you people want to hide under PERSONIFICATION, which will never fly.

I don't know why you people will be claiming to be an adult whereas you people are just pure kids in reasoning.

CAPTIVATOR:


Chill, the statement said " only"
Let me repeat it again

" ONLY "

According to the dictionary, Only when used in a sentence means THERE ARE NO OTHERS in that class.

So Jesus said ONLY the Father knows, ( which automatically means Jesus don't know and holy spirit don't know );

Do you Emusan believe this statement that Only the Father knows ? Yes or No!

When you jumped into this thread, one will think you have something meaningful to contribute but only to keep repeating the nonsense your people have been repeating.

Yes! I believe that STATEMENT just as the Disciples of Jesus did.

Yet in the presence of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior they acknowledged HIS DIVINE ATTRIBUTE OF ALL KNOWING and Our Lord and Savior commended US for our BELIEVE.

because He knows He has been speaking in PARABLE but that day He told us PLAINLY and we understood that He actually KNOWS ALL THINGS

Reason why you deluded people have been trying to call the disciples LIAR.

Psalm 115:3 OUR GOD IS IN HEAVEN

The spirit return to God

God dwell in heaven.

Spirit return to where it came from.


Implication: The spirit person lives in heaven before he was given .


The question arises: So this person's exist in heaven before their birth? Adam existed in heaven before he was created ?

The spirit PERSON is from God and was GIVEN BY GOD.

The fact you can't deny is that NO INANIMATE OBJECT HAS THE ABILITY TO KNOW THOUGHT.

Since you already removed the delusion of PERSONIFICATION from your head, then take scripture for its word.

The scripture says Human spirit HAS THE ABILITY TO KNOW THOUGHT which means the spirit is a PERSON.

If you disagree without your delusion of PERSONIFICATION, first proof how INANIMATE OBJECT CAN KNOW THOUGHT.

QED

Emusan:


You people are just too dull!

The BODY is what belongs to the EARTH which is the PHYSICAL PART AND MARKS our identity in physical world.


The SPIRIT is the spiritual aspect of human that can allow us to RELATE WITH SPIRITUAL WORLD.

I dey tell you say you don't have sense
We are from Above , Yes ?

Jozzy4:

I dey tell you say you don't have sense
We are from Above , Yes ?

I defeated soul

He claimed inanimate object KNOWS the thought of his god

Emusan:


When you jumped into this thread, one will think you have something meaningful to contribute but only to keep repeating the nonsense your people have been repeating.

Yes! I believe that STATEMENT just as the Disciples of Jesus did.

Yet in the presence of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior they acknowledged HIS DIVINE ATTRIBUTE OF ALL KNOWING and Our Lord and Savior commended US for our BELIEVE.

because He knows He has been speaking in PARABLE but that day He told us PLAINLY and we understood that He actually KNOWS ALL THINGS

Reason why you deluded people have been trying to call the disciples LIAR.

That statement prove only the Father knows the day and hour. mumu said Matthew 24:36 is a parable, Olodo! I know the day and hour now since it's a parable, it's as clear as day. Nobody else can know , that's why the word " Only " is written there

The spirit PERSON is from God and was GIVEN BY GOD.

Thank you, now I know Jesus lied that we are from below, we are spirit person's from heaven above.

"You are from below"

Emusan:


I defeated soul
He claimed inanimate object KNOWS the thought of his god

We are spirit person's from ABOVE , Yes ?

Emusan:

Yes! I believe that STATEMENT just as the Disciples of Jesus did.

If you believe that statement , Case closed. Nobody else know the day and hour.

The spirit PERSON is from God and was GIVEN BY GOD.

Defend your gullibility to the end : The Spirit person of each individual existed before the human birth?

The fact you can't deny is that NO INANIMATE OBJECT HAS THE ABILITY TO KNOW THOUGHT.

Since you already removed the delusion of PERSONIFICATION from your head, then take scripture for its word.

The scripture says Human spirit HAS THE ABILITY TO KNOW THOUGHT which means the spirit is a PERSON.

If you disagree without your delusion of PERSONIFICATION, first proof how INANIMATE OBJECT CAN KNOW THOUGHT.

QED

Defend your gullibility above and we would see if there is personification or not.

CAPTIVATOR:
If you believe that statement , Case closed. Nobody else know the day and hour.

Of course, you're the one arguing.

My point based on scriptural evidences are:

1. JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS

2. The Holy spirit knows the mind of God and the THOUGHT of God.

Defend your gullibility to the end : The Spirit person of each individual existed before the human birth?

God gave the SPIRIT and the Spirit RETURNED to God after death.

How is this a rocket science to you?

Defend your gullibility above and we would see if there is personification or not.

Smile.....

The PERSONIFICATION delusion in your head is still ringing the bell loud

Well you already said you have removed it, why going back to your vomit?

So, how can an INANIMATE OBJECT can know THOUGHT?

Emusan:


Of course, you're the one arguing.

My point based on scriptural evidences are:

1. JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS

2. The Holy spirit knows the mind of God and the THOUGHT of God.

But as far as the day and hour is concerned, scripturally , Only the Father knows.

This is the main point . Jesus don't know, holy spirit doesn't know, Whatever make the holy spirit know means Two persons are knowing which is a Lie. Except of course holy spirit is not a person.

God gave the SPIRIT and the Spirit RETURNED to God after death.

Good! You can only Return to where you came from. And God is in heaven.

If it's a spirit person, Emusan do you admit this means we existed as persons in heaven before birth?

Jozzy4:


We are spirit person's from ABOVE , Yes ?

Apt.

Emusan:


I'm not the one who called the Apostles and the scripture liar. You did.

I'm jot the one who called something obvious PERSONIFICATION for dubious reason. You did.

According to the scripture Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS

The Holy spirit KNOWS THE MIND OF GOD AND THE VERY THOUGHT OF GOD

Reason you called the Apostles liar and inserted PERSONIFICATION multiple times.

Like I said, remove the lens of that your delusion of PERSONIFICATION and we the TRUTH God revealed in His word.



But He KNOWS ALL THINGS

Like I've said several times, the disciples in whom Jesus made that statement are the very one who acknowledged that Jesus actually knows ALL THINGS.

To even add more to your injury.

In that John 16, Jesus was telling His that "He always use PARABLE to discuss with them but a time is coming when He will PLAINLY talk about the Father"(paraphrase) it was at this point the disciples then BELIEVED that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.

Let me stop here first

Jesus know all things the same way we also know all things as spoken at 1John 2:20,

"But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. " KJV

limited.

But regarding the day and hour, Nobody except the Father knows.

CAPTIVATOR:


But as far as the day and hour is concerned, scripturally , Only the Father knows.

This is the main point . Jesus don't know, holy spirit doesn't know, Whatever make the holy spirit know means Two persons are knowing which is a Lie. Except of course holy spirit is not a person.



Good! You can only Return to where you came from. And God is in heaven.

If it's a spirit person, Emusan do you admit this means we existed as persons in heaven before birth?

I have my disagreement with you JW guys, but on this particular one, you are right . One distant cousing that's a Mormon member actually clutch to this Ecclesiastes 12:7 to prove the doctrine of Joseph Smith that humans have a Spirit pre existence in heaven like Jesus. Reason being that in every occurrence of the word ruach in the old testament, it either mean wind or breath and never a person. The oñly area that could be twisted is that ine verse. But at least Mormons admitted to the end that the word Return Neccesitate a pre existence. Anyone who claim Ecclesiastes 12:7 indicate usage of ruach for a personality must be ready to accept same doctrine as Joseph Smith believes. Laughable though

Barristter07:
Jesus know all things the same way we also know all things as spoken at 1John 2:20,

"But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. " KJV

limited.

He ran back to the same 1 John 2:20 I've already bursted his lie at beginning. This shows how empty you are.

But regarding the day and hour, Nobody except the Father knows.

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS not me

The Holy spirit knows the mind of God and the THOUGHT OF GOD.

Emusan:


He ran back to the same 1 John 2:20 I've already bursted his lie at beginning. This shows how empty you are.

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS not me

The Holy spirit knows the mind of God and the THOUGHT OF GOD.

That 1John 2:20 actually expose you.

Its clear We also know all things, But regarding the day and hour nobody knows except the Father , not even Jesus. Matt 24:36 . Just one person knows, not two . this makes the holy spirit a force from the Father .

CAPTIVATOR:
But as far as the day and hour is concerned, scripturally , Only the Father knows.

Scripturally, Jesus knows ALL THINGS

This is the main point . Jesus don't know

The main point is, Jesus apostles in whom Jesus made that statement in their presence later CONFESS that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS not just a mere statement but also in the PRESENCE of Jesus who made the earlier statement and Jesus ENDORSED THEIR BELIEVE.

Do you know why you and your deluded people have been trying to claim the APOSTLES MADE MISTAKES and WRONG?

That was because your saw the truth steering you face to face and you don't have any other option than to deny it.

holy spirit doesn't know, Whatever make the holy spirit know means Two persons are knowing which is a Lie. Except of course holy spirit is not a person.

God's says Holy spirit knows THE MIND OF GOD AND THE THOUGHT OF GOD.

Till know you people have not proved to me how inanimate object can have the ABILITY TO KNOW ONE'S THOUGHT.

No wonder you people have shouting PERSONIFICATION since because you're so afraid of the truth.

Good! You can only Return to where you came from. And God is in heaven.

God gave the spirit and Returned to God who gave.

If it's a spirit person, Emusan do you admit this means we existed as persons in heaven before birth?

God gave every human on earth SPIRIT, so every SPIRIT existed WITH GOD BEFORE HUMAN WERE BORN.

The fact is human spirit is a person because HE HAS ABILITY TO KNOW ONE'S THOUGHT.

Proof me wrong on this first.

This challenge is going more than 2 pages now.

Barristter07:

That 1John 2:20 actually expose you.

Its clear We also know all things, But regarding the day and hour nobody knows except the Father , not even Jesus. Matt 24:36 . Just one person knows, not two . this makes the holy spirit a force from the Father .

This is already done and dusted, stop going back in circle.

I've tutored you on that.

Just tell me first that NWT is wrong, then we will continue.

Emusan:

This is already done and dusted, stop going back in circle.
I've tutored you on that.
Just tell me first that NWT is wrong, then we will continue.

NWT translators use their understanding of the verse. The Greek word for all things actually appeared there. We know all things.
Is KJV wrong?

Emusan:


God gave every human on earth SPIRIT, so every SPIRIT existed WITH GOD BEFORE HUMAN WERE BORN.

Guy , you Mormon? I have a distant cousin from LDS that say this shit too.
“Before you were born on the earth, you lived in the presence of your Heavenly Father as one of his spirit children.”
From the LDS ( Mormon) Book
True to the Faith, p. 115

I know JW guys have their errors but on this one , you goofed. It means we are all exactly like Jesus with a pre human existence. He isn't the only one from up as he claimed

Barristter07:
NWT translators use their understanding of the verse. The Greek word for all things actually appeared there. We know all things.
Is KJV wrong?

Which means THEIR UNDERSTANDING is wrong, do you agree?

KJV IS WRONG! And that is why we have other translation to compare with KJV.

You see how I answered your question without deviating, so don't play cunning cunning to boycott my question(s)

KJV - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God" john 1:1

Is KJV wrong?

Floww23:

Guy , you Mormon? I have a distant cousin from LDS that say this shit too.
“Before you were born on the earth, you lived in the presence of your Heavenly Father as one of his spirit children.”
From the LDS ( Mormon) Book
True to the Faith, p. 115

No! I'm not Mormon!

I know JW guys have their errors but on this one , you goofed. It means we are all exactly like Jesus with a pre human existence. He isn't the only one from up as he claimed

No! Your issue is to know what DOES IT MEAN TO BE A PERSON FIRST.

can you tell us what it means to be A PERSON?

Emusan:

No! I'm not Mormon!
No! Your issue is to know what DOES IT MEAN TO BE A PERSON FIRST.
can you tell us what it means to be A PERSON?

Every personality that exist as Children of God is a Person. So the pre human personality is what?

Emusan:


Which means THEIR UNDERSTANDING is wrong, do you agree?

In light of Matthew 24;36 , it's not.

That's the same light you need to apply to everyone that doesn't know

KJV IS WRONG! And that is why we have other translation to compare with KJV.

KJV is wrong because they didn't consider Matthew 24:36? Okay. The Greek word still meant " all things"

The Son doesn't know the day and hour, we are not here to make him a liar when he said only the Father knows.

You see how I answered your question without deviating, so don't play cunning cunning to boycott my question(s)

KJV - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God" john 1:1

Is KJV wrong?

Greek Theos can mean God/a god. KJV translators choose the one that fit their understanding, they are not wrong.

Barristter07:
In light of Matthew 24;36 , it's not.

That's the same light you need to apply to everyone that doesn't know

Smile....

Dubious and fraudulent attitude.

NWT is in hot sit here. Believers don't KNOW ALL THINGS according to NWT.

Do you agree?

KJV is wrong because they didn't consider Matthew 24:36? Okay. The Greek word still meant " all things"

The Son doesn't know the day and hour, we are not here to make him a liar when he said only the Father knows.

You said KJV is wrong! But NWT silent

Well, the Son KNOWS ALL THINGS ACCORDING TO God's word.

This issue had been done with already.

So stop going back.

Greek Theos can mean God/a god. KJV translators choose the one that fit their understanding, they are not wrong.

Good!

So that mean Jesus is GOD!

I LIKE THAT!

Floww23:
Every personality that exist as Children of God is a Person. So the pre human personality is what?

You didn't answer my question but you jump to ask question.

Is that how you behave?

Emusan:


You didn't answer my question but you jump to ask question.

Is that how you behave?

Exactly how Mormons behave.

I've answered you every individual that exist as a child of God is a Person. So?

Floww23:

Exactly how Mormons behave.

I've answered you every individual that exist as a child of God is a Person. So?

Whatever issue you have with Mormon go and settle it.

It's you and I on Nairaland.

I asked you question FIRST.

So, answer my question before you proceed to ask your own question.

How is that hard for you to comprehend?