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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Floww23: 2:06pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Says someone who doesn't know the meaning of PERSON....

How does meaning of person change the Fact that you teach that people have a prehuman existence as spirit person's before coming to earth? Or y'all just spit dumb Mormon shit you can't defend ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:10pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
Since Matthew 24:36 is irrelevant now, Emusan I hope you agree We know all things as written in 1John 2:20?

Nobody says Matt 24:36 is irrelevant, you're just grasping a strawman.

I've made it clear that the same Jesus Apostles who heard their Lord and God saying ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS from Jesus mouth are the ones who later CONFESSED JESUS ABSOLUTE INFINITE UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THINGS in the very PRESENCE OF JESUS CHRIST.

IF they actually made MISTAKE like you FRAUDSTER projected earlier, Jesus would have corrected THEM.

Reason why you fraudulent people discarded their testimony and called them a liar and claimed they ONLY MADE MISTAKE FOR SAYING JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS.

Your deed has been exposed, sorry!

And you admit it means that Spirit person was transferred to an Earthly womb from Above like Jesus Christ? grin

Provide where I said so, I'm not a liar like you.

ONLY A PERSON KNOWS THE THOUGHT.

Just proof how an inanimate object can know THOUGHT first.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:13pm On Sep 16
Floww23:
How does meaning of person change the Fact that you teach that people have a prehuman existence as spirit person's before coming to earth? Or y'all just spit dumb Mormon shit you can't defend ?

If you understand the meaning of PERSON then you won't inject in your statement PREHUMAN existence.

That shows you don't even understand the discussion you join in the first.

Or can you show me where PREHUMAN EXISTENCE ever appeared in my post?

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Kingsempires(m): 2:15pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:


There's nothing wrong with the screenshot, anyone who doesn't know the day and hour doesn't know all things. If peradventure such is said , it not absolute.
so there is nothing wrong with the screenshot ok the bible is contradicted

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:19pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
There's nothing wrong with the screenshot, anyone who doesn't know the day and hour doesn't know all things. If peradventure such is said , it not absolute.

Lying liar!

You know the meaning of KNOWING ALL THINGS and the implication of using such word for Jesus Christ.

Reason why you and your deluded fellow said the disciples MADE MISTAKE.

The MISTAKE they made HERE is using such WORD FOR JESUS.

Now, you want to turn around and be claiming nonsense.

FRAUDSTER

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 2:22pm On Sep 16
Kingsempires:
so there is nothing wrong with the screenshot ok the bible is contradicted

Don't mind him, as you can see from the screenshot, the claim was that the disciples MADE MISTAKE for using such word for Jesus Christ because they know the MEANING and IMPLICATION of such word been APPLIED TO JESUS.

when their lies got exposed, they want to change the narration.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Kingsempires(m): 2:47pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Don't mind him, as you can see from the screenshot, the claim was that the disciples MADE MISTAKE for using such word for Jesus Christ because they know the MEANING and IMPLICATION of such word been APPLIED TO JESUS.

when their lies got exposed, they want to change the narration.
sha na them know wetin them dey talk

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 2:50pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Lying liar!


You know the meaning of KNOWING ALL THINGS and the implication of using such word for Jesus Christ.


Reason why you and your deluded fellow said the disciples MADE MISTAKE.

The MISTAKE they made HERE is using such WORD FOR JESUS.

Now, you want to turn around and be claiming nonsense.

FRAUDSTER

Emusan We also know all things, the same implication apply to us. grin
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 2:53pm On Sep 16
Kingsempires:
so there is nothing wrong with the screenshot ok the bible is contradicted

Only the Father knows the day and hour , if Christians or Jesus is said to know all things , it's either they are the Father or their knowledge is limited.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Kingsempires(m): 2:57pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:


Only the Father knows the day and hour , if Christians or Jesus is said to know all things , it's either they are the Father or their knowledge is limited.
is it not your fellow JW that said this?

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:03pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
Emusan We also know all things, the same implication apply to us. grin

Now, grasping straw man after his lying mouth has been exposed.

FRAUDSTER!

This thread will continue to be a testament on how you people HATE JESUS CHRIST.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:05pm On Sep 16
Kingsempires:
is it not your fellow JW that said this?

Tell me what exactly is wrong in his statement if Only the Father know all things ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:07pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Now, grasping straw man after his lying mouth has been exposed.

FRAUDSTER!

This thread will continue to be a testament on how you people HATE JESUS CHRIST.


The person who hated Jesus Christ is the one who said he lied when he said only the Father knows all things.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Kingsempires(m): 3:08pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:


Tell me what exactly is wrong in his statement if Only the Father know all things ?
so for you nothing he said is wrong
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:11pm On Sep 16
Kingsempires:
is it not your fellow JW that said this?

Don't allow him to deviate, that is there tactics after their lying mouth got exposed.

He didn't only endorsed what his fellow colleague said but him also made similar CLAIM which shows they HATE ANYTHING ABOUT JESUS

Below in the screenshot are his own words.

Notice how he keeps repeating the word FALLIBLE MAN and HOW THEY CONTRADICTED JESUS.

So they know exactly what they are up to.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:12pm On Sep 16
Kingsempires:
so for you nothing he said is wrong

Point what is wrong?

Did Jesus himself ever open his mouth and said he knows all things? No, his apostles did. Same apostles said We Christians know all things.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:13pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Don't allow him to deviate, that is there tactics after their lying mouth got exposed.

He didn't only endorsed what his fellow colleague said but him also made similar CLAIM which shows they HATE ANYTHING ABOUT JESUS

Below in the screenshot are his own words.

Notice how he keeps repeating the word FALLIBLE MAN and HOW THEY CONTRADICTED JESUS.

So they know exactly what they are up to.

If John said we Christian know all things ND you have the audacity to claim it means just knowledge of truth. It means you also agree he is mistaken. If you believe he is saying the truth, admit it that we know all things.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Floww23: 3:16pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


If you understand the meaning of PERSON then you won't inject in your statement PREHUMAN existence.

That shows you don't even understand the discussion you join in the first.

Or can you show me where PREHUMAN EXISTENCE ever appeared in my post?

Spirit persons live in heaven, since the spirit person comes from God, he existed In heaven before he was transferred like Jesus to the womb of our mothers. Isn't this pre human existence? Or you this dumb Bro?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:17pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:


Point what is wrong?

Did Jesus himself ever open his mouth and said he knows all things? No, his apostles did. Same apostles said We Christians know all things.

Now, you agreed that the Apostles did.

Why did you called it a word of FALLIBLE MEN?

Why did you say it CONTRADICT Jesus statement.

Why did you support your deluded colleague that it was A MISTAKE?

WHEN YOU KNOW THE SAME Apostles SAID WE CHRISTIANS KNOWS ALL TRUTH....

You see why you people are so shameless and always displaying your HATRED TOWARDS THE TRUTH.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:20pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Now, you agreed that the Apostles did.

Why did you called it a word of FALLIBLE MEN?

Why did you say it CONTRADICT Jesus statement.

Why did you support your deluded colleague that it was A MISTAKE?

@Bold, Did Jesus not say only the Father knows the day and hour ? Why didn't others claimed to know all things also know the day and hour ?



WHEN YOU KNOW THE SAME Apostles SAID WE CHRISTIANS KNOWS ALL TRUTH....

You see why you people are so shameless and always displaying your HATRED TOWARDS THE TRUTH.

Not all truth, point of correction. He said we know all things. Is he mistaken?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Kingsempires(m): 3:20pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Now, you agreed that the Apostles did.

Why did you called it a word of FALLIBLE MEN?

Why did you say it CONTRADICT Jesus statement.

Why did you support your deluded colleague that it was A MISTAKE?

WHEN YOU KNOW THE SAME Apostles SAID WE CHRISTIANS KNOWS ALL TRUTH....

You see why you people are so shameless and always displaying your HATRED TOWARDS THE TRUTH.
he didn't see everything wrong in that statement small time now Muslim on nairaland forum will see this.

They will say christian are being mad

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:23pm On Sep 16
Kingsempires:
he didn't see everything wrong in that statement small time now Muslim on nairaland forum will see this.

They will say christian are being mad

You have just one assignment: point what is wrong in his analysis? He backed his reasoning with Matthew 23:46, unless you lots mean that statement of Jesus is FALSE. That guy is on point as long as Matthew 23:46 is True
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:25pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
If John said we Christian know all things ND you have the audacity to claim it means just knowledge of truth. It means you also agree he is mistaken. If you believe he is saying the truth, admit it that we know all things.

See another broad day lie.

I provided WATCHTOWER TRANSLATION which is the TRANSLATION YOU PUT YOUR FAITH ON to show you that what that verse means is not ALL KNOWING as in INFINITE UNDERSTANDING OF THINGS.

It was your deluded colleague who was using KJV which he never even TRUST in the first place to proof it was ALL THINGS.

I never thought it was a mistake because I'm not someone like you who deny God's word.

But here is the implication, it was YOUR OWN ORGANIZATION WHO YOU AGREED TO BE JESUS MOUTHPIECE THAT SAYS the understanding of that verse is not ALL KNOWING but in the car of Jesus where disciples acknowledged Jesus as ALL KNOWING no where one was translated as mere knowledge.

Come with another lie.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:28pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
@Bold, Did Jesus not say only the Father knows the day and hour ? Why didn't others claimed to know all things also know the day and hour ?

You didn't answer my question.

Why did you say it CONTRADICT Jesus?


Not all truth, point of correction. He said we know all things. Is he mistaken?

It is the truth not ALL KNOWING as in case of Jesus.

That is why no translation ever translated John 16:30 and John 21:17 as they way 1 john 2:20 was translated.

Stop lying

You this shameless liar.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 3:28pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


On this issue you're a confirmed

FRAUDSTER
FRAUDSTER
FRAUDSTER

Your receipt is down below.

If you can claim the Apostles made mistake for saying Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS, only to come back to start saying rubbish, then it's evident you have problem with Jesus Christ not anybody.



Liar! Anyway, don't let me deviate from the main point.

But everyone know you're lying.

If they are not mistaken, did Jesus lie at Matt 23:46 ?

You are forgetting all my submission are strongly backed by Jesus statement at Matthew 23:46

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:31pm On Sep 16
Kingsempires:
he didn't see everything wrong in that statement small time now Muslim on nairaland forum will see this.

They will say christian are being mad

They know the implication that is why they have been going back and forth.

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS

By allowing this to have its true meaning means He is Almighty GOD since only God have INILFINITE KNOWLEDGE of things.

And the verse they are arguing with EVEN their translation (remember they hold NWT above any translation) shows it's not that Christians KNOW ALL THINGS.

Their lies won't stand!

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Barristter07: 3:33pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:


Barristter07 don educate you with 1John 2:20. Deal with it. ShebiMatthew 24:36 isnt relevant, We know all things Buddy grin




Thanks you for the Bold now, That means this Spirit person was transferred by God from heaven to an Earthly womb Shey? grin grin grin


Me wey Like Trouble grin grin grin
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:38pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


You didn't answer my question.

Why did you say it CONTRADICT Jesus?




It is the truth not ALL KNOWING as in case of Jesus.

That is why no translation ever translated John 16:30 and John 21:17 as they way 1 john 2:20 was translated.

Stop lying

You this shameless liar.

Eeyah so you are agreeing with them that John is mistaken to say all things ? Because it surely appear in the text!
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:38pm On Sep 16
Barristter07:
If they are not mistaken, did Jesus lie at Matt 23:46 ?

They NEVER MADE MISTAKE and you know the implication that was the reason you want to count it as MISTAKE.

Also, thise statements were in the VERY PRESENCE of Jesus Christ which Jesus ACKNOWLEDGED THEM, if it was a MISTAKE Jesus is the one in the right place to CORRECT THEM.

Now you after years of Jesus ENDORSEMENT.

You are forgetting all my submission are strongly backed by Jesus statement at Matthew 23:46

That is why I'm telling you that, your submission was TOTALLY WRONG.

because of:
1. The disciples in whom Jesus made that statement later ACKNOWLEDGED Jesus AS ALL KNOWING.

2. Jesus who made that statement was around when the disciples ACKNOWLEDGED His INFINITE KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THINGS yet He didn't correct them but ENDORSED THWIR BELIEVE.

So, it you who has never been in disciples shoe and I've said it before that you are the one who don't understand Jesus not that the disciples made any MISTAKE AS YOU CLAIMED.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:39pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


See another broad day lie.

I provided WATCHTOWER TRANSLATION which is the TRANSLATION YOU PUT YOUR FAITH ON to show you that what that verse means is not ALL KNOWING as in INFINITE UNDERSTANDING OF THINGS.

It was your deluded colleague who was using KJV which he never even TRUST in the first place to proof it was ALL THINGS.

I never thought it was a mistake because I'm not someone like you who deny God's word.

But here is the implication, it was YOUR OWN ORGANIZATION WHO YOU AGREED TO BE JESUS MOUTHPIECE THAT SAYS the understanding of that verse is not ALL KNOWING but in the car of Jesus where disciples acknowledged Jesus as ALL KNOWING no where one was translated as mere knowledge.

Come with another lie.

Do you now agree with Watchtower that all things doesn't mean all things ? Because I don't understand this rant grin
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:40pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


They NEVER MADE MISTAKE and you know the implication that was the reason you want to count it as MISTAKE.

Also, thise statements were in the VERY PRESENCE of Jesus Christ which Jesus ACKNOWLEDGED THEM, if it was a MISTAKE Jesus is the one in the right place to CORRECT THEM.

Now you after years of Jesus ENDORSEMENT.



That is why I'm telling you that, your submission was TOTALLY WRONG.

because of:
1. The disciples in whom Jesus made that statement later ACKNOWLEDGED Jesus AS ALL KNOWING.

2. Jesus who made that statement was around when the disciples ACKNOWLEDGED His INFINITE KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THINGS yet He didn't correct them but ENDORSED THWIR BELIEVE.

So, it you who has never been in disciples shoe and I've said it before that you are the one who don't understand Jesus not that the disciples made any MISTAKE AS YOU CLAIMED.

Floww23 said you dumb, don't tell me it's true


" only the Father "

Explain this statement ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:42pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
Do you now agree with Watchtower that all things doesn't mean all things ? Because I don't understand this rant grin

Not that I agree with Watchtower as MANY TRANSLATIONS before the coming of NWT and after the coming of NWT did translate it to express the true meaning.

I only brought NWT in because I know you hold no other translation above your NWT.

So, denying your NWT and using other translations is hypocrisy on its own.

So, stop the lie Mr lying liar.

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