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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:44pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
Floww23 said you dumb, don't tell me it's true
" only the Father "

Explain this statement ?

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS!

This single statement is the reason you said the blessed Apostles word are JUST FALLIBLE MEN WORD.

Don't forget!

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:46pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Not that I agree with Watchtower as MANY TRANSLATIONS before the coming of NWT and after the coming of NWT did translate it to express the true meaning.

I only brought NWT in because I know you hold no other translation above your NWT.

So, denying your NWT and using other translations is hypocrisy on its own.

So, stop the lie Mr lying liar.

You didn't agree with Watchtower, So did John said we know all things or not ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:47pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS!

This single statement is the reason you said the blessed Apostles word are JUST FALLIBLE MEN WORD.

Don't forget!
We know all things too, so this rant hold no water buddy

Explain this first " Only the Father knows" ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:48pm On Sep 16
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Eeyah so you are agreeing with them that John is mistaken to say all things ? Because it surely appear in the text!

It was NEVER A MISTAKE.

Saying it's a MISTAKE MEANS God word is a MISTAKE.

You people are pure ENEMIES OF TRUTH.

This statement was made in THE PRESENCE OF JESUS.

If Jesus didn't see it as MISTAKE and correct them, why will you liars call it MISTAKE?

It evident, you people know the implication of that verse and the reason you want it to be a MISTAKE.

which you are even denying God's word accuracy the more.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:51pm On Sep 16
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We know all things too, so this rant hold no water buddy

That means YOU ARE ALMIGHTY GOD.

Do you agree?

Explain this first " Only the Father knows" ?

I've done that several times go back and read from it.

Like I said, when you jump into this thread with your ranting, one will think you have something tangible to add but only to start going in circle like your deluded colleagues.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 3:53pm On Sep 16
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You didn't agree with Watchtower, So did John said we know all things or not ?

No! John didn't say we KNOW ALL THINGS.

If not provide where John claimed such.

But John recorded and part of Jesus Apostles who ACKNOWLEDGED Jesus as ALL KNOWING.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:57pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


That means YOU ARE ALMIGHTY GOD.

Do you agree?

Woahhhhhh

So someone that's not ALMIGHTY GOD cannot know all things ?


I've done that several times go back and read from it.

Like I said, when you jump into this thread with your ranting, one will think you have something tangible to add but only to start going in circle like your deluded colleagues.

What does " Only the Father knows " mean ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:59pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


No! John didn't say we KNOW ALL THINGS.

If not provide where John claimed such.

But John recorded and part of Jesus Apostles who ACKNOWLEDGED Jesus as ALL KNOWING.

1John 2:20
And ye have an anointing from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
John said we know all things

This is why I ask : What does only the Father know indicate ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:02pm On Sep 16
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Woahhhhhh

So someone that's not ALMIGHTY GOD cannot know all things?

Yes! That is one of the ATTRIBUTES that makes God to be God.

R3ason you claimed the Apostles made MISTAKE because you know Tue implication.

So back to my question, do you agreed that we KNOWING ALL THINGS make us to be God Almighty?

What does " Only the Father knows " mean ?

Stop taking us back, we've past that stage.

The stage we are now is how DID APOSTLES MADE MISTAKE for saying Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS and Jesus didn't correct them but allow this statement to find its way into GOD'S WORD?

Every lying mouth must be shut down!

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:06pm On Sep 16
Emusan:

Yes! That is one of the ATTRIBUTES that makes God to be God.

R3ason you claimed the Apostles made MISTAKE because you know Tue implication.

So back to my question, do you agreed that we KNOWING ALL THINGS make us to be God Almighty?


" Yes "
ALMIGHTY GOD cannot have a God, Yes?

Since Jesus have a God , he isn't almighty, and with your admission that who isn't Almighty cannot know all things. There are things Jesus doesn't know , Matthew 23:46 is true.


Stop taking us back, we've past that stage.


The stage we are now is how DID APOSTLES MADE MISTAKE for saying Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS and Jesus didn't correct them but allow this statement to find its way into GOD'S WORD?


Every lying mouth must be shut down!

Jesus know Matthew 23:46 will find it's way into God's word. Anyone with a brain can then understand that Only the Father know all things, there are things Jesus doesnt know
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:08pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
1John 2:20
And ye have an anointing from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
John said we know all things

Reason why you couldn't add the translation you used.

because you know you're an hypocrite and a FRAUDULENT PERSON.

Here is how your NWT puts it "And YOU have an anointing from the holy one; all of YOU have knowledge."

This how the same NWT puts john 16:30 "Now we know that you know all things and you do not need to have anyone question you.+ By this we believe that you came out from God.”

John 21:17 NWT " He said to him the third time: “Simon son of John, do you have affection for me?”* Peter became grieved that he said to him the third time: “Do you have affection for me?” So he said to him: “Lord, you know all things;"

compare those verses.

This is why I ask : What does only the Father know indicate?

I've already addressed that. Stop taking us back

FRAUDSTER

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:12pm On Sep 16
Emusan:

Reason why you couldn't add the translation you used.

because you know you're an hypocrite and a FRAUDULENT PERSON.

Here is how your NWT puts it "And YOU have an anointing from the holy one; all of YOU have knowledge."

This how the same NWT puts john 16:30 "Now we know that you know all things and you do not need to have anyone question you.+ By this we believe that you came out from God.”

John 21:17 NWT " He said to him the third time: “Simon son of John, do you have affection for me?”* Peter became grieved that he said to him the third time: “Do you have affection for me?” So he said to him: “Lord, you know all things;"

compare those verses.

All the verses have " Panta" meaning know all things. In them, that means we know all things too.



I've already addressed that. Stop taking us back

FRAUDSTER

According to you only the Father means , The Father knows, the son knows, and the holy spirit knows. 3 people know. Did Jesus mention three people or one person?

You are the real FRaUDSTER

Jesus admitted there are things he doesn't know. Matthew 23:46
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:14pm On Sep 16
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" Yes "
ALMIGHTY GOD cannot have a God, Yes?

Nobody asked to shalaye...

Since you agreed that we ALL KNOW ALL THINGS then everyone is ALMIGHTY GODS

Which means you have billion of Gods to worship.

Since Jesus have a God , he isn't almighty, and with your admission that who isn't Almighty cannot know all things. There are things Jesus doesn't know , Matthew 23:46 is true.

You already AGREED that to KNOW ALL THINGS MEANS TO BE GOD ALMIGHTY, so swallow this your delusion for now.

Jesus know Matthew 23:46 will find it's way into God's word. Anyone with a brain can then understand that Only the Father know all things, there are things Jesus doesnt know

But Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS which Jesus Himself ACKNOWLEDGED.

Definitely, it's you without brain that don't understand Jesus.
Jesus Apostles knows their MASTER AND LORD and they have TOLD US MUCH ABOUT HIM.

No one take you FRAUDSTER serious

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Floww23: 4:14pm On Sep 16
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Floww23 said you dumb, don't tell me it's true


" only the Father "

Explain this statement ?

Ain't gonna lie, He dumb. Whoever believes that shit spirit person's got transferred to earth body in wombs like Jesus is hella dumb.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:18pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Nobody asked to shalaye...

Since you agreed that we ALL KNOW ALL THINGS then everyone is ALMIGHTY GODS

Which means you have billion of Gods to worship.

You already AGREED that to KNOW ALL THINGS MEANS TO BE GOD ALMIGHTY, so swallow this your delusion for now.

But Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS which Jesus Himself ACKNOWLEDGED.

Definitely, it's you without brain that don't understand Jesus.
Jesus Apostles knows their MASTER AND LORD and they have TOLD US MUCH ABOUT HIM.

No one take you FRAUDSTER serious

The bold is why you ain't smart, if I'm Almighty I dont have to worship any God. Almighty doesn't have a God. Wake up !
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:22pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
All the verses have " Panta" meaning know all things. In them, that means we know all things too.

cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy not only panta but the MEANING!

I have provided the NWT version of both VERSES.

Now, it's evident believers ARE NOT SAID TO BE ALL KNOWING as applied to Jesus Christ.

Reason why you people have been going round in circle since trying to change narration and perverted God's word.

According to you only the Father means , The Father knows, the son knows, and the holy spirit knows. 3 people know. Did Jesus mention three people or one person?

The scripture evidences that

1. Jesus knows ALL THINGS.
2. The Holy spirit not only knows the MIND of God but the VERY THOUGHT of God.

You are the real FRaUDSTER

because you're contending with these scriptural TRUTH above, you begin to twist Gods word and liar against Jesus Apostles that:

1. They MADE MISTAKE
2. Personification was used for the Holy spirit.

After these were debunked and thrashed in the bin...

You begin to attack a straw man.

Jesus admitted there are things he doesn't know. Matthew 23:46

But the same disciples who made that statement later ACKNOWLEDGED that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.

So it's you who find it difficult to understand Our Lord and Master.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:25pm On Sep 16
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The bold is why you ain't smart, if I'm Almighty I dont have to worship any God. Almighty doesn't have a God. Wake up !


This means we don't KNOW ALL THINGS.

A subtle remind, you know the reason why you want the Apostles statement to be A MISTAKE.....

Can you see why your initial acknowledgment was so dumb to begin with.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:30pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy not only panta but the MEANING!

I have provided the NWT version of both VERSES.


Now, it's evident believers ARE NOT SAID TO BE ALL KNOWING as applied to Jesus Christ.

NWT translators don't believe Jesus is All knowing. It means they regard those statements as the same with 1John 2:20


Reason why you people have been going round in circle since trying to change narration and perverted God's word.

The scripture evidences that

1. Jesus knows ALL THINGS.
2. The Holy spirit not only knows the MIND of God but the VERY THOUGHT of God.

because you're contending with these scriptural TRUTH above, you begin to twist Gods word and liar against Jesus Apostles that:

1. They MADE MISTAKE
2. Personification was used for the Holy spirit.

After these were debunked and thrashed in the bin...

You begin to attack a straw man.



But the same disciples who made that statement later ACKNOWLEDGED that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.

So it's you who find it difficult to understand Our Lord and Master.

It was Jesus himself who made the statement at Matthew 23:46 grin that He doesn't know some things Only the Father knows.

You see that statement Only the Father knows, it will keep haunting you
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:31pm On Sep 16
Emusan:



This means we don't KNOW ALL THINGS.


A subtle remind, you know the reason why you want the Apostles statement to be A MISTAKE.....

Can you see why your initial acknowledgment was so dumb to begin with.
You Re admitting we don't know all things because we have a God
It means Jesus doesn't know all things too since he has a God he worship. He isn't Almighty.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:35pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


because you're contending with these scriptural TRUTH above, you begin to twist Gods word and liar against Jesus Apostles that:
At least that is apostles
While you are making Jesus himself a liar by not agreeing with him that only the Father knows the day and hour, and the son doesn't know
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:37pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
NWT translators don't believe Jesus is All knowing. It means they regard those statements as the same with 1John 2:20

Now another spinning.

You people are truly shameless.

So, you must BELIEVE before you can TRANSLATE.

Then, this is another evidence that NWT translators HEAVILY MANIPULATED THEIR TRANSLATION since they ALREADY HAVE A CERTAIN BELIEVE ABOUT JESUS.

It was Jesus himself who made the statement at Matthew 23:46 grin that He doesn't know some things Only the Father knows.

And the Apostles is Jesus made those statements in the PRESENCE OF JESUS.

You see that statement Only the Father knows, it will keep haunting you

If it will hurt me, I'll be spinning or trying to twist it like you did to the pure Apostles confession and Gods word about the Holy spirit KNOWING THE THOUGHT OF GOD.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:39pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Now another spinning.

You people are truly shameless.

So, you must BELIEVE before you can TRANSLATE.

Then, this is another evidence that NWT translators HEAVILY MANIPULATED THEIR TRANSLATION since they ALREADY HAVE A CERTAIN BELIEVE ABOUT JESUS.

And the Apostles is Jesus made those statements in the PRESENCE OF JESUS.

If it will hurt me, I'll be spinning or trying to twist it like you did to the pure Apostles confession and Gods word about the Holy spirit KNOWING THE THOUGHT OF GOD.

Jesus confess himself that he doesn't know certain things ( Matthew 23:46)

Isn't Jesus witness greater ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:40pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


If it will hurt me, I'll be spinning or trying to twist it like you did to the pure Apostles confession and Gods word about the Holy spirit KNOWING THE THOUGHT OF GOD.
so Since holy spirit is a distinct person from the Father.
So why didn't holy spirit know the day and hour ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:41pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
You Re admitting we don't know all things because we have a God

My point is on 1 John 2:20.

IF you agreed that WE ALL THINGS, that makes us God Almighty.

Now, you want to change gear, you're too dull for that.

It means Jesus doesn't know all things too since he has a God he worship. He isn't Almighty.

The scripture says JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS.

To know ALL THINGS means to be God Almighty.

Your confusion is the same as that of your deluded colleague about PARTAKER of divine nature.

In the process of trying to be clever, you created a bigger gallow and put your own neck in it.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:42pm On Sep 16
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Jesus confess himself that he doesn't know certain things ( Matthew 23:46)

Isn't Jesus witness greater ?

Jesus ACKNOWLEDGED that HE KNOWS ALL THINGS.

So, it's evident you're the one who is out of the picture here.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:43pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


My point is on 1 John 2:20.

IF you agreed that WE ALL THINGS, that makes us God Almighty.

Now, you want to change gear, you're too dull for that.

The scripture says JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS.

To know ALL THINGS means to be God Almighty.

Your confusion is the same as that of your deluded colleague about PARTAKER of divine nature.

In the process of trying to be clever, you created a bigger gallow and put your own neck in it.

That is why the Son confess he doesn't know the day and hour. He isn't God Almighty, he has a God.
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:45pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Jesus ACKNOWLEDGED that HE KNOWS ALL THINGS.

So, it's evident you're the one who is out of the picture here.

Show this thread where he said He knows all things ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:45pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:

so Since holy spirit is a distinct person from the Father.
So why didn't holy spirit know the day and hour ?

Only a PERSON can know THOUGHT

The scripture says HOLY SPIRIT knows THE VERY THOUGHT OF GOD.

Reason why you resulted to PERSONIFICATION because you know the implication.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:47pm On Sep 16
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That is why the Son confess he doesn't know the day and hour. He isn't God Almighty, he has a God.

But you already agreed.

You delusion won't pass just like that.

So, you have billion of gods to be worship.

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.

You know this and that was reason, you lied and said the Apostles made MISTAKE.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:48pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


Only a PERSON can know THOUGHT


Spirit of man isnt a person , yet it's said to know thought.



The scripture says HOLY SPIRIT knows THE VERY THOUGHT OF GOD.


Reason why you resulted to PERSONIFICATION because you know the implication.

And Jesus lied only the Father knows his own thoughts ?
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:48pm On Sep 16
CAPTIVATOR:
Show this thread where he said He knows all things ?

I've provided John 16:30 and John 21:17

Just remove those parts from your Bible so that you'll have rest of mind.

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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:49pm On Sep 16
Emusan:


But you already agreed.

You delusion won't pass just like that.

So, you have billion of gods to be worship.

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.

You know this and that was reason, you lied and said the Apostles made MISTAKE.

He never said so.


"The son doesn't know " Matthew 23:46

Who is the Son?
Is he lying here?

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