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Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Difrent: 6:30pm On Sep 19 |
MadPolitician: The mistake was made in 1966 whether you people want to agree or not Why do you think the political elites have consistently kicked against an igboman becoming president? It's because they still remember the horrors of January 1966 and couldn't bring themselves to trust an igboman again Why? As at January 1966, an igboman was president, Aguyi ironsi was Army chief, igbos hold very important positions in government...... Yet military officers of mainly igbo origin carried out a putsch that killed most of the leaders of the other tribes sparing the igbo leaders If you were not igbo , you would feel exactly the way others feel about igbos |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Justiceleague1: 6:32pm On Sep 19 |
They are very evil and demonic...that's why they hate the truth. They ain't alled sophisticated m....ns for nothing 1 Like |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Forkthiefnubu: 6:37pm On Sep 19 |
You are going too far , let’s just go to 2003 Pdp primaries between obasanjo and Ekweme and others , the south west delegates voted for obj without one erring, not a single vote went to any other candidate, I completely say it without equivocation that the south west political philosophy is tribalism, their way of life is tribalism, their everyday interactions with u is predicted on your tribe and language 1 Like |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by RealityKings: 7:32pm On Sep 19 |
APOPTOSIS:Boss please let me share the drink with you |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Ttalk: 7:33pm On Sep 19 |
Forkthiefnubu: Says the person from a region who don't sell land to strangers. Your region is the most hostile region. A place where there's an established philosophy that an Ebonyi man can't work in Anambra. The same tribalistic Yoruba empolyed many Igbo into thier civil service and appointed Igbo as commissioner while electing people of other tribes into positions and embraced you into their midst after the devastating war. What did they get in return, "Lagos iis no man's land" "Igbo develop Lagos" You have overstepped your boundary and taken the liberality of the Yoruba for granted, henceforth you'll be treated as ungrateful as you are 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by 1x2x3: 7:36pm On Sep 19 |
obawinner: Which sensible governor is in your region? |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by obawinner(m): 7:44pm On Sep 19 |
1x2x3:Obi, Kalu, Orji, Abaribe etc🤡. We have them in abundance, reason why we ran away from our region to other people's region for survival. 🤡 Some of our governors who are meant to secure our lives and properties even obey sit at home and ran away to other region from the mess they governed . 😂😂 1 Like |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Yemike(m): 9:05pm On Sep 19 |
Ttalk:Unfortunately to most of them, their IQ can't process this write up. Most of the intelligent ones ain't on NL. |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by donproject2(m): 9:07pm On Sep 19 |
MadPolitician: How many contenders here ever flew the flag of the two topmost party? If you can give me answer, I will agree with whatever you want to day henceforth. |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by donproject2(m): 9:10pm On Sep 19 |
Bone147: I am now telling you what influenced the votes, factors that decide how SE vote. Then, you asked me if I am mentally okay, to be honest, I am disappointed in you. This should be an interesting word tussles but look at your intro. I won't give you an outro you deserve anyways. |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Sharpsharp00123: 9:23pm On Sep 19 |
MadPolitician:if u want to make a reasonable argument u will tell us candidates outside pdp that the igbos have voted U igbos entered agreement with pdp n they betrayed u n u are presenting it as if u did it willingly U people were fooled by pdp so stop all that madness |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Sharpsharp00123: 9:24pm On Sep 19 |
IFECHIGCON:the tribalistic people that gave their son 99% n are still calling others tribalistic |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Owontime: 9:28pm On Sep 19 |
Irrelevant votes What's the point voting when you know very well that your votes will not affect the outcome of the election? If I was from that zone I will just KIIIIIIIII myself. |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by donproject2(m): 9:52pm On Sep 19 |
1x2x3: Let me just drop this may be you will get how it is done in Nigeria We have 6 regions in Nigeria, NE, NW, NC, SE, SW, SS. But from this 6, we can re-align them into 4 partisan regions to conform with their political affiliation at any National election in Nigeria, the re-alignment produces; 1. NE/NW/NC, thence, I will say North for short. 2. SW 3. SS 4. SE At any presidential election; North generally and mostly support one candidate, they rarely have conflict of interests especially if their son is among the top contenders. South West always have the most spread votes across leading parties, PDP and AD/AC/ACN/APC drag votes between themselves. South South will almost give it to one party, they don't seem to have issue. South East will give it to one party, so far the candidate is from that one party they all seem to support. Let me now tell you what influence votes from each re-aligned region. 1. North: They believe they should always be in power, their votes go to a Northerners if he is in top party, if not, they will likely prefer SW candidate over any other region from the South. 2. SW: Margin of votes between PDP and AD/AC/ACN/APC will be somehow narrow, if their son is among the top flag bearers, the margin will be a bit wider but next strong party will still get a good figure. 3. SS: They are close to vote for PDP candidates anytime any day. 4. SE: PDP have been getting their votes since 1999 no matter the candidate. What happened before and during 2023 general election where Obi pulled out from PDP because he felt some cabal in the party wouldn't give him green light really made SE had a rethink of position of PDP in their region. Obi went to LP and they felt he needs to be listened to. Sir Bobby Chalton [Obi] knows how to sell himself to people and many would want in. There were two leading candidates in Atiku and Tinubu who Nigerians don't really think would take us to a promise land. Obi, as many will say, is the messiah (what Nigerians believed about Buhari in 2015 as well) to take us to the promise land, so the massive support he seems to get especially from young Nigerians who are social media electorates. But, does Social media noise and perceived messiahness win election? No. What wins election? Work rate. What complements work rate? Being consistent and having longer years of calculation. Who had the better work rate and has been calculating more than 8 years even before he declared? Tinubu. All this is not a rocket science, ascending the number one spot in the political field in Nigeria is not by noise and begging or telling people you deserve to be there too, you have to put in the work and be messy if needs be, that is how to win an election to number one position in Nigeria. If you make it here, I want to say no hard feelings from here whatsoever. I am just a guy who knows a little about Nigeria from 1957 till date and I will always refuse not to say how things are when some people try to doctor what are general facts. Be good! 1 Like |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by givedemwotowoto: 9:56pm On Sep 19 |
Sharpsharp00123: These are baseless assumptions and unfounded allegations. Peter Obi wasn't the first Igbo man to leave the PDP because of the presidential ticket. Orji Uzo Kalu also left the PDP in 2007 when he couldn't secure the presidential ticket. The party chose Yar'Adua. Igbos didn't switch to the PPA to vote for Orji Uzo Kalu. He got only 3% of votes in the SE. Focus on the topic. You're derailing. |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by givedemwotowoto: 10:05pm On Sep 19 |
Ttalk: This topic is about whether Igbos voted based on tribe or not, which was a lie peddled by Tinubu supporters. You're derailing with these incoherent gibberish. Focus on the topic. |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Ttalk: 10:15pm On Sep 19 |
givedemwotowoto: Simple and short. 2023 presented a balanced candidate among the 3 contending regions Atiku from the North Tinubu from the West Obi from the East Atiku got 60% from the North Tinubu got 60% from the West Obi got 98%from the East and Nwanne is saying Igbo don't vote tribe. You can choke on that nonsense crab in your village, don't bring that to social media especially Nairaland where we have enlighten people. This is not Araira market where you sell packaged stone as wristwatch. Nigeria aren't buying your bullcrap analysis, it defiled logic and rational reasoning And for the record, Obi won Lagos, Atiku won Osun, how many vote did either Atiku or Tinubu win in SE. Enough of your lies, we are not buying it. 1 Like |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by givedemwotowoto: 10:36pm On Sep 19 |
Ttalk: Since you're enlightened, why are you going back to an argument (obviously a lie) which I have already negated with facts? You haven't presented any new data to show that there was any tribal correlation to the vote percentages. Igbos gave similar or even higher percentages to Obasanjo, Yar'Adua, GEJ etc. You're presenting the very same data I have already countered. How enlightened is that? |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Ttalk: 10:55pm On Sep 19 |
givedemwotowoto: This is not Ochanja market and I didn't see any data you presented to support your argument. A comparative analysis of regional voting pattern that quotes the figure of each candidate won in each region and states is expected for a critical analysis. You haven't done any of this, but want us to believe the lies you tell yourself at UpperIweka. What you believe is limited by your knowledge, don't pass it here to mislead people. Igbo are the only tribe that vote based on tribalism in 2023, where Obi scored 98% of votes cast in the SE 2 Likes |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Nasman(m): 11:12pm On Sep 19 |
I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree. While the voting patterns you provided do suggest that the South East region has consistently voted for candidates from other regions, it's oversimplifying to say that tribe played no significant role in the 2023 presidential election. The complexity of Nigerian politics and the myriad factors influencing voting decisions cannot be reduced to a single factor. Tribal considerations have historically played a significant role in shaping Nigerian politics, particularly in regional voting patterns [1). For instance, the 28% vote share for Ojukwu in 2003, despite being an Igbo candidate, may indicate that factors beyond tribe influenced voting decisions. Similarly, Buhari's increased percentage in the South East despite having Igbo running mates in 2003 and 2007 suggests that other factors, such as performance, policies, or national issues, also swayed voters. Moreover, the significant difference in vote share between Peter Obi (91%) and previous Igbo presidential candidates (Orji Uzo Kalu, Pat Utomi, and Kingsley Moghalu) hints at a unique factor in the 2023 election, potentially beyond tribal considerations. Let's acknowledge that Nigerian politics is multifaceted, and both tribal and national issues intersect to shape voting patterns. We should strive for nuanced discussions, recognizing the complexity of these dynamics. |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by givedemwotowoto: 11:31pm On Sep 19 |
Nasman: You see, the problem here is that there was an unfounded lie that Igbos voted based on tribe, just because Peter Obi got 90+ percent of the votes in the SE. If this were a court of law, I won't even be required to prove anything, the purveyors of the unfounded allegation have not shown any proof of a tribal correlation to the vote percentages, other than PO got that many percentage points. The case will be thrown out because it has no basis. But here we are in a court of public opinion. While the purveyors of the lie have not shown any data to backup their claims, it's still necessary to set the record straight for reference purposes, and for the benefit of others yet to see the lies. PS: Your comment looks like ChatGPT or AI generated? 1 Like |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Tochi360: 12:54am On Sep 20 |
Ttalk: Guy you go just rush write plenty rubbish wey nor connect with discussion. The thread is crushing the propaganda of you APC zombies and happy slaves that Igbos vote primarily on tribal sentiment,You are offpoint. |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by 1x2x3: 1:01am On Sep 20 |
donproject2: Whatever you said up there makes zero sense. What I have to say is that once the East votes against a candidate, there's a 100% chance the candidate will make a bad president. |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Tochi360: 1:11am On Sep 20 |
Sharpsharp00123: So You expect a reasonable normal human being to leave Obi or Atiku and vote for the African GOAT FAILURE tinubu😁😁 na places where illiterates and uneducated happy slaves full tinubu and him APC structure of hardship,suffering and insecurity fit do their nonsense na. Even Osun State one of the most Educated States in Nigeria would choose death 700x than to vote for the African GOAT FAILURE tinubu, in fact they would rather power stays upNorth forever than vote for the African GOAT FAILURE tinubu,is it this person that You want the SE with a reputation of always voting right to vote? You are not serious na places like Zamfara,Borno tinubu go fit see vote. Jona.Yaraudua got way more vote than Obi in SE for your info. |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Sharpsharp00123: 7:47am On Sep 20 |
Tochi360:just keep quiet with your madness U people are shameless When we point your tribalism to u ,then u deflect Based on past record of performance a sane person will vote tinubu before obi Mumu n atiku Is it the same obi that u people cursed when he was governor of Anambra state? Even mrvitalis n co warned us never to allow obi near power then but today he's an hardcore obi Mumu just because he wants Igbo president badly There are threads as far back as 2012, stating how useless obi was even when no one was talking national politics,obi performed woefully as governor n u Igbos cursed him to high heaven but suddenly when u needed Igbo president badly then he became Messiah Check d following threads as far back as 2017 and 2012 n tell me why a sane person will want obi I can bet that even u cursed obi as governor but today he suddenly turned messiah https://www.nairaland.com/3773717/hypocrisy-peter-obi#56109705 https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing#10195342 |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Ttalk: 8:06am On Sep 20 |
Sharpsharp00123: Hit them with the truth and they will flee. See as them don japa from this thread |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Sharpsharp00123: 8:11am On Sep 20 |
Bone147:keep quiet there U Igbos slaved for PDP n u got fooled n betrayed Name a party outside PDP that u Igbos voted since 99 till u got disgraced in 2024 when they refused to give u ticket after slaving |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Sharpsharp00123: 8:12am On Sep 20 |
MadPolitician:those people u mentioned ain't playing victim card,their tribesmen knew they goofed b they ain't playing smart |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Sharpsharp00123: 8:31am On Sep 20 |
givedemwotowoto:name one party aside PDP that Igbos voted from 99 to 2024 in presidential election? |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by 9jalyte: 10:08am On Sep 20 |
Difrent: Have you not noticed that the Igbos are not in the Business of caressing egos. Igbos are not pretentious about their feelings. If they are for you, you can close your eyes and take that to the bank. That is the defemination of integrity. The Igbos can afford to do that because they don't care, they can always survive, and there is nothing you can threaten them with, because they have seen it all and still standing. When you see an Igbo man, give him some respect, you are not mates. |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by Difrent: 10:30am On Sep 20 |
9jalyte: And you have to ask for respect? You don't ask people to respect you , people naturally respects whoever deserves it And which tribe can't stand alone and survive? Every tribe has what sustains them, so also do they have poor folks among them, including igbos. I lived among igbos very well so I know them well....... Most igbos wealth is not clean. You may say circumstances made them so I wont argue, but don't come and be flexing ill gotten wealth and expect people to respect you. You people overrated yourselves abegii |
Re: Voting Patterns In The South East 1999 Till 2023. Show Me The Tribal Correlation by 9jalyte: 10:41am On Sep 20 |
Ttalk: Your message reeks of ignorance and ethnic bigotry, so let’s set the record straight. Your claim that Igbos voted for Obi out of tribal loyalty while Yorubas were somehow “nationalistic” is nonsense. 99% of Igbos voted for competence, integrity, and a better future in Peter Obi, while 60% of Yorubas blindly backed Tinubu, a man whose fitness for office is highly questionable. If we’re being honest, it was the Igbo vote that reflected true national interest, voting for a candidate who could actually fix the country, unlike the tribal-driven choice made by many Yorubas. So spare me this gaslighting—you’ve twisted reality to fit your narrow, tribal narrative. Don’t even try to lump the blame for Nigeria’s collapse on “all political elites.” We both know who hijacked power in this country and deliberately sidelined the Igbos. Nigeria rotted when certain regions seized control and excluded the very people who once held key sectors and drove progress. Compare Nigeria when Igbos held the economy, aviation, education, NAFDAC, and even defense—there was competence and real development. Since then, it’s been one long downward spiral. You want to talk about who’s really responsible for Nigeria’s failure? Look at those who’ve hoarded power, not the ones who were pushed out. Your derogatory remarks about Igbo traders show just how small-minded your thinking is. These "small traders" you're trying to insult are closing multimillion-dollar deals globally while you and others who hold onto your superiority complex are stuck in dead-end jobs, feeling good about yourselves. The Igbos have proven that even without fancy degrees or prestigious jobs, they can dominate the global marketplace. Meanwhile, the people who look down on them are busy toiling for scraps. If that’s what you call success, enjoy it. You’re mistaken if you think Igbos move to other regions because they can’t build at home. Igbos go where the business opportunities are, just like the Chinese do globally. It’s called vision and entrepreneurship, not desperation. If anything, it’s the rest of the country that should be asking itself why Igbos keep outperforming in their own regions. They don’t settle for mediocrity like some others do—they go where they can thrive and create wealth. Maybe try learning from them instead of spewing this ignorant nonsense. Your entire argument is built on tribalism and an inflated sense of self-worth. If you can’t rise above this kind of thinking, don’t expect to be taken seriously. The world is moving forward, and your ethnic bigotry is keeping you stuck in the past. |
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