hopefulLandlord:


It's obvious USA and NATO's interest is not the military defeat of Russia but depletion of combat capabilities of Russia using Ukrainian blood till it becomes Russia's best interest to stop the war.
This is buttressed by the gradual escalation of level of equipments they've been giving Ukraine to fight with. First they sent Javelins, Nlaws etc then they sent Excalibur artillery shells then they started sending MLRS like HIMARS then sent short range ACTACMs for the MLRS and Stormshadows then sent tanks and long range ACTACMs and now they've sent F16.
There are many equipments I either intentionally skipped or I can't remember right now but that's how it's been escalating with time. Imagine Ukraine having long range ACTACMs at its disposal when those 40 mile convoy of tanks were bogged down for days during the initial days of this war? Imagine the damage they could've made shooting fish in a barrel from miles away

Will there be F35 in Ukraine in the future? Maybe. So long Ukraine can still fight on with what they have, America and partners have no reason to if the goal I'm assuming they have is to keep bleeding Russia using some old or less recent weapons and Ukrainian blood

hopefulLandlord:


It's obvious USA and NATO's interest is not the military defeat of Russia but depletion of combat capabilities of Russia using Ukrainian blood till it becomes Russia's best interest to stop the war.
This is buttressed by the gradual escalation of level of equipments they've been giving Ukraine to fight with. First they sent Javelins, Nlaws etc then they sent Excalibur artillery shells then they started sending MLRS like HIMARS then sent short range ACTACMs for the MLRS and Stormshadows then sent tanks and long range ACTACMs and now they've sent F16.
There are many equipments I either intentionally skipped or I can't remember right now but that's how it's been escalating with time. Imagine Ukraine having long range ACTACMs at its disposal when those 40 mile convoy of tanks were bogged down for days during the initial days of this war? Imagine the damage they could've made shooting fish in a barrel from miles away

Will there be F35 in Ukraine in the future? Maybe. So long Ukraine can still fight on with what they have, America and partners have no reason to if the goal I'm assuming they have is to keep bleeding Russia using some old or less recent weapons and Ukrainian blood

EmmanuelScott1:


So how come a walking civilian was hit?

I saw a video of an Iranian missile hitting an Israeli school.

The link https://x.com/lauferdaniel/status/1841201624280088611

Just give Israel credit for protecting their citizens well unlike their oppositions.

seankafor:
and does it seem they re succeeding in their plans?

Life is going on as usual in Russian cities while Ukraine is in ruins..

seankafor:
and does it seem they re succeeding in their plans?

Life is going on as usual in Russian cities while Ukraine is in ruins..

HurricaneLanter:


Simple question. You begin shalaye. Tell me the countries where f35 saw real combat or attacked??

hopefulLandlord:


You asked 2 questions and I answered one that I felt would lead to more discussions but here you are pretending my post didn't answer any of your questions and even labeled your 2 questions "simple question"

Anyways Israel has used f35 in combat

EmmanuelScott1:
Now they're rejoicing, having merry they attacked Israel, even saying the iron dorme failed.

I saw one tweet "Iran have the right to protect themselves"

But they're the first to launch the attack 😁

Soon you will start seeing

Genocide
Save iran
Pray for Iran
Save innocent children of iran

Even oasis come in the defence for Iran attack on Israel by saying "Iran don't attack civilians" but one person died.

Lol, we know what we're doing 😁

OasisX:


.....I guess when Israel took out Nasrallah, no civiliian casualties?! Also no civilian casualties in Gaza, West Bank and Lebanon too?!

seankafor:
oga, Iran isn't your average Hezbollah or Gaza, Israel should confront iran if they want to.. no one is holding thrm

EmmanuelScott1:
Now they're rejoicing, having merry they attacked Israel, even saying the iron dorme failed.

I saw one tweet "Iran have the right to protect themselves"

But they're the first to launch the attack 😁

Soon you will start seeing

Genocide
Save iran
Pray for Iran
Save innocent children of iran

Even oasis come in the defence for Iran attack on Israel by saying "Iran don't attack civilians" but one person died.

Lol, we know what we're doing 😁

BlueRayDick:


When Israel eventually retaliates, na wailing go full everywhere.

I remember reading the book "90 minutes at Entebee" which was about the rescue mission of Israeli hostages held by Palestine terrorists in Entebee, Uganda. Idi Amin the then head of state had made available Entebee airport for Palestine terrorists that hijacked an air france plane where they kept jewish hostages .

Idi Amin was angered by the fact that Israel will not sell arms to him so he can bomb Tanzania where the rebel leader Obote(whom Idi Amin overthrew) was raising a rebel army to fight him. Idi Amin expelled Israeli envoys in Uganda, then gave support to PLO terrorists of Palestine to use his country as safe haven to keep Israeli Hostages.

Unfortunately for Idi Amin, Israel carried out a rescue mission planned by the Mossad while Idi Amin was on phone call with the Israeli Ambassador (a clever distraction). When Idi Amin went to the Entebee airport and saw the dead bodies of Ugandan soldiers and Palestine terrorists who had been neutralized during the rescue mission of hostages; he wept bitterly.

That is the kind of bitter tears we will see all over social media when Israel does finally retaliate and puts Iran in its rightful place.

HurricaneLanter:
I thought y'all Israeli supporters were happy and hailed Mossad efficiency after the assasination of Hamas leader in Iranian territory.

Iran responded to that including the assasination of Hezbollah leader. Killing a foreign leader visiting another country is illegal, against international law and convention. The ball is in Israeli court, this is a direct attack against Israel, not an espionage attack, assasination or planting explosives in Pagers and Walkie talkies where nobody will claim responsibility.

Let have it.

EmmanuelScott1:


That's why I said you should give Israel credit for protecting its citizens well. The terrorists you mentioned don't protect their citizens; instead, they use them as shields against Israeli attacks.

Israel warn their citizens ahead of the attack and even provide them bomb shelter, that's why there was no Israeli casualty but instead a Palestinian.

Israel is going to attack soon, Iran know but won't protect their citizen, so when it happen don't blame Israel but blame the Iranian government.

EmmanuelScott1:
Now they're rejoicing, having merry they attacked Israel, even saying the iron dorme failed.

I saw one tweet "Iran have the right to protect themselves"

But they're the first to launch the attack 😁

Soon you will start seeing

Genocide
Save iran
Pray for Iran
Save innocent children of iran

Even oasis come in the defence for Iran attack on Israel by saying "Iran don't attack civilians" but one person died.

Lol, we know what we're doing 😁

OasisX:


......Hamas and Hezbollah ain't countries but Resistance Movements. So are you blaming the killings of innocent civilians by Israeli Army on Lebanese Government in the case of Nasrallah or powerless Palestinian Authority in the case of Hamas?!

By the way, the targets are clear, Military Assets. Iran didn't aim to destroy Residences or killing Civilians, they aimed to weaken Israel Air Strength hence targeted their Air bases.

BlueRayDick:


When Israel eventually retaliates, na wailing go full everywhere.

I remember reading the book "90 minutes at Entebee" which was about the rescue mission of Israeli hostages held by Palestine terrorists in Entebee, Uganda. Idi Amin the then head of state had made available Entebee airport for Palestine terrorists that hijacked an air france plane where they kept jewish hostages .

Idi Amin was angered by the fact that Israel will not sell arms to him so he can bomb Tanzania where the rebel leader Obote(whom Idi Amin overthrew) was raising a rebel army to fight him. Idi Amin expelled Israeli envoys in Uganda, then gave support to PLO terrorists of Palestine to use his country as safe haven to keep Israeli Hostages.

Unfortunately for Idi Amin, Israel carried out a rescue mission planned by the Mossad while Idi Amin was on phone call with the Israeli Ambassador (a clever distraction). When Idi Amin went to the Entebee airport and saw the dead bodies of Ugandan soldiers and Palestine terrorists who had been neutralized during the rescue mission of hostages; he wept bitterly.

That is the kind of bitter tears we will see all over social media when Israel does finally retaliate and puts Iran in its rightful place.

LordAdam16:


Imagine! We're somehow in bizarro world where people are cross with the Iranians for not targeting apartment complexes.
Mossad and IDF HQ are in Tel Aviv close to population centers. Iran did not target any of the apartments and homes as civilian shields.
They are angry.

How dare they not kill civilians.
Did they not see us kill our own citizens on Oct 7?

-Lord

LordAdam16:


Imagine! We're somehow in bizarro world where people are cross with the Iranians for not targeting apartment complexes.
Mossad and IDF HQ are in Tel Aviv close to population centers. Iran did not target any of the apartments and homes as civilian shields.
They are angry.

How dare they not kill civilians.
Did they not see us kill our own citizens on Oct 7?

-Lord

hopefulLandlord:


Comparing F16 to F35 in terms of stealth is like comparing Al Nassr to Real Madrid in terms of accolade and prestige.
A squadron of F35 right now equipped with the latest beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile like Meteor, bunker busters and precision guided air to ground missiles and Harm misiles would pound Russia to oblivion very fast, so fast they wouldn't even know what's hitting them till they're already smithereens.
One of the biggest advantages F35 have over other aircrafts is the pilot not needing to see anything at all and still operate cuz it has direct communication with ground crews who can direct and redirect the pilot without him knowing much and those ground crews have the "5 eyes" latest ISRs working overtime

patrickmuf:
All you said will work perfectly for countries with obsolete Air Defense Systems. Russia combines s-400 with Tor M2 abs Buk-M3 ADS.

Russia can't even dominate the sky over Ukraine who parade S-300 and Patriot Missile defense system, good luck thinking the US will the F-35 or the Raptor in any conflict with Russia.

patrickmuf:
All you said will work perfectly for countries with obsolete Air Defense Systems. Russia combines s-400 with Tor M2 abs Buk-M3 ADS.

Russia can't even dominate the sky over Ukraine who parade S-300 and Patriot Missile defense system, good luck thinking the US will the F-35 or the Raptor in any conflict with Russia.

HurricaneLanter:
I thought y'all Israeli supporters were happy and hailed Mossad efficiency after the assasination of Hamas leader in Iranian territory.

Iran responded to that including the assasination of Hezbollah leader. Killing a foreign leader visiting another country is illegal, against international law and convention. The ball is in Israeli court, this is a direct attack against Israel, not an espionage attack, assasination or planting explosives in Pagers and Walkie talkies where nobody will claim responsibility.

Let have it.

EmmanuelScott1:


That's why I said you should give Israel credit for protecting its citizens well. The terrorists you mentioned don't protect their citizens; instead, they use them as shields against Israeli attacks.

Israel warn their citizens ahead of the attack and even provide them bomb shelter, that's why there was no Israeli casualty but instead a Palestinian.

Israel is going to attack soon, Iran know but won't protect their citizen, so when it happen don't blame Israel but blame the Iranian government.

monerozi5590:


When I see Lord guy talking shit about Netanyahu, I will just be laughing. Netanyahu brother was killed in that operation. He was part of the guys that went for the rescue and he was the only one killed.

Netanyahu will never forgive terrorists

Sportsweb:
just because people don't see Israeli citizens casualties, they automatically believes all these iran Hamas are not targeting citizens.

Imagine Israel without iron dome and bomb shelters, the casualties will be massive.

obainojazz:
This is common sense but some lack it

monerozi5590:


When I see Lord guy talking shit about Netanyahu, I will just be laughing. Netanyahu brother was killed in that operation. He was part of the guys that went for the rescue and he was the only one killed.

Netanyahu will never forgive terrorists