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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:59pm On Oct 03
IjeBos:


You and Bemeruca are ok being self hating Black people.
What's your point?
So Kamala and Amazon are women who hate other women

And you are the make belief woman who loves women more than natural born women

You can go for your gender change
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:02am On Oct 04
budaatum:


Actually, its each person decide their own destiny, unless you find it possible to create a Handmade Tails society where you get to monitor what women do and imprison the pregnant ones.

Personally, I love the Scotus decision on RvW, as its ensured liberals aren't complacent.

Any society that loves handmade should put it on votes and choose to. Its the point of democracy
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:04am On Oct 04
raumdeuter:


Any society that loves handmade should put it on votes and choose to. Its the point of democracy

Holy Shit you are one stupid person.
Pick up a book and learn something.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:08am On Oct 04
ObaIgwe1:
Liz Cheney is presently campaigning with Kamala Harris at Ripon, Wisconsin.

This is the birthplace of the Republican Party, Also Liz was born in Wisconsin.

Will Liz tell the crowd which of the Republican policies she spent her entire life defending and made her a Republican that Harris will be implementing when in office?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:09am On Oct 04
IjeBos:


Holy Shit you are one stupid person.
Pick up a book and learn something.

Your stupidity can serve the entire community, No society can handle 2 people of your own level of stupidity

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:29am On Oct 04
raumdeuter:


Any society that loves handmade should put it on votes and choose to. Its the point of democracy

No society loves Handmade Tails, and societies that have Handmade Tails imposed on them would never let their people vote.

Good thing America isn't that society, and will democratically reject dump, again.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 12:29am On Oct 04
raumdeuter:


Will Liz tell the crowd which of the Republican policies she spent her entire life defending and made her a Republican that Harris will be implementing when in office?

Yes she did: Respect for the constitution, democracy and peaceful transfer of power.

Anyone who fails to do that should never be the leader of USA.

Reason she is not just against Trump but will continue to actively campaign for Kamala who she believes will uphold those fundermental principles.

She gave a beautiful speech. She is a Patriot who puts the country above party. cool

She said she has been actively serving the country as a Republican long before Trump conceived the idea of running for election.

Kamala said, after they overcome this season the Republican will go back to being a true conservative Party and they can begin to have healthy debates again.

Dayo you too should be a patriot! cheesy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:35am On Oct 04
ObaIgwe1:


Yes she did: Respect for the constitution, democracy and peaceful transfer of power.

Anyone who fails to do that should never be the leader of USA.

Reason she is not just against Trump but will continue to actively campaign for Kamala who she believes will uphold those fundermental principles.

She gave a beautiful speech. She is a Patriot who puts the country above party. cool

She said she has been actively serving the country as a Republican long before Trump conceived the idea of running for election.

Kamala said, after they overcome this season the Republican will go back to being a true conservative Party and they can begin to have healthy debates again.

Dayo you too should be a patriot! cheesy

Liz Cheney like other Republicans believed all her life in Free market, Small govt, Individual Liberties, Personal Responsibility, Tax cuts, Energy Independence etc
Which of these does Kamala believe in and will implement as President? None
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 12:36am On Oct 04
ObaIgwe1:
Liz Cheney is presently campaigning with Kamala Harris at Ripon, Wisconsin.

This is the birthplace of the Republican Party, Also Liz was born in Wisconsin.

Ja! That's great woman! A real Amazonian! grin

Not like the one that just started singing my body my choice like hummingbird today to sell her books.

Act of the "bookseller"
grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:36am On Oct 04
budaatum:


No society loves Handmade Tails, and societies that have Handmade Tails imposed on them would never let their people vote.

Good thing America isn't that society, and will democratically reject dump, again.

Places like Kansas already put it on the ballot and it won. Let every state decide through the ballot what they want
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:39am On Oct 04
Konkoja:
https://meidasnews.com/news/maga-election-clerk-sentenced-to-prison

Trump has directly and indirectly destroyed many gullible lives. Another MAGA slowpoke jailed.

She then claimed that everything she did was simply to prove that there was NOT election fraud and she was just trying to reassure people who thought that there were. This seemed pretty preposterous since she was one of the leading voices in the election fraud conspiracy movement almost from day one. Peters said if judge put her on probation and ordered her to stop talking about the 2020 election she would be willing to do that.

Basilico should try this as his argument if he ever got brought before a judge for his lies and baseless conspiracies. Be warned though, it failed.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:42am On Oct 04
budaatum:


No society loves Handmade Tails, and societies that have Handmade Tails imposed on them would never let their people vote.

Good thing America isn't that society, and will democratically reject dump, again.

Imagine someone saying put HandMaid's tale on the ballot.
He has 0 idea what he is talking about. Just running his mouth as usual.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:43am On Oct 04
budaatum:

Basilico should try this as his argument if he ever got brought before a judge for his lies and baseless conspiracies. Be warned though, it failed.

She is mentally ill.
She seemed not to understand the consequences even when the Judge was talking to her.
Something is broken there.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:46am On Oct 04
raumdeuter:


Places like Kansas already put it on the ballot and it won. Let every state decide through the ballot what they want

Kansas put Handmaids Tale on the ballot, and it was rejected as people voted against it.

That's a win for my body my choice.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:50am On Oct 04
IjeBos:


Imagine someone saying put HandMaid's tale on the ballot.
He has 0 idea what he is talking about. Just running his mouth as usual.

I agree he doesn't seem to know what Handmaid's Tale is about. But then, most dump supporters don't know what they voting for neither.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:04am On Oct 04
raumdeuter:


Will Liz tell the crowd which of the Republican policies she spent her entire life defending and made her a Republican that Harris will be implementing when in office?

I think Liz Cheney is telling you character is more important than policies this time around.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:06am On Oct 04
IjeBos:


She is mentally ill.
She seemed not to understand the consequences even when the Judge was talking to her.
Something is broken there.

The bright side is she got 9 years of wall staring to heal herself of her brokenness.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 1:58am On Oct 04
raumdeuter:


Liz Cheney like other Republicans believed all her life in Free market, Small govt, Individual Liberties, Personal Responsibility, Tax cuts, Energy Independence etc
Which of these does Kamala believe in and will implement as President? None

True, she even listed many of those in her speech, but Trump doesn't share many of these values and the reality is that without democracy and peaceful transfer of power, all will be lost. So while she still hold dear those values, she will join hands with others to rid the elephant in the room.

That is what Patriots do.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:57am On Oct 04
budaatum:


The bright side is she got 9 years of wall staring to heal herself of her brokenness.

Yeah. Hearing her in court, part of me felt bad for her.
I feel like Trump took advantage of the fact that she's not well.
Hopefully she gets the care she needs.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:09am On Oct 04
budaatum:


Kansas put Handmaids Tale on the ballot, and it was rejected as people voted against it.

That's a win for my body my choice.


Exactly that's how things are supposed to work. You put it on the ballot and the voters pick the lifestyle they want
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:10am On Oct 04
budaatum:


I agree he doesn't seem to know what Handmaid's Tale is about. But then, most dump supporters don't know what they voting for neither.

Anyone can choose to pick any way of life they want as long as they are in the majority which is what democracy is about

Will of the people for the people
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:11am On Oct 04
ObaIgwe1:


True, she even listed many of those in her speech, but Trump doesn't share many of these values and the reality is that without democracy and peaceful transfer of power, all will be lost. So while she still hold dear those values, she will join hands with others to rid the elephant in the room.

That is what Patriots do.

Trump got the conservative majority in the Supreme Court, got tax cuts which Republicans always wanted


Does Cheney get any of these under Harris
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:12am On Oct 04
budaatum:


I think Liz Cheney is telling you character is more important than policies this time around.

What character exactly when we know no politician is a choir boy except those who lie about who they are
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:13am On Oct 04
And MSNBC busted again like CNN the last time

https://x.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1841960488403423691?s=19
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:15am On Oct 04
budaatum:


I agree he doesn't seem to know what Handmaid's Tale is about. But then, most dump supporters don't know what they voting for neither.

This post makes his reply even more nonsensical.
It takes 1 minute to just google something.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bossly: 4:06am On Oct 04
Their terrorist camps (called military bases) are becoming USELESS. 😄🤣😂
By the time global dedollarization is complete, they will be trashed forever.
To God be the glory 🙌🏾


Cc:
1stgenamerican

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 5:40am On Oct 04
IjeBos:


Hmm..
Even in that system, the women exists as part of her husband. So, she has to user he first name to somewhat differentiate him as he is the last name. So, it may be more empowering than her current situation, but does she have as much power as her husband? But I get your point in that.

But when you're talking about elected positions with titles/honorifics, it's worse when it happens.
In 2020 when Harris was debating Pence, the moderator called her Kamala Harris, she quickly apologized and said Senator Harris. Harris said, "That's fine, I'm Kamala". But what else was she going to say? Why should she be even in that position to have to say anything. In that debate the moderator never called Pence, Mike Pence. And the moderator was a woman. It's implicit that we have been programmed to do it and aren't conscious of it.


Yeah well for females above me in my organization I do use their honorifics to show respect but mostly still coupled with their first names.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 6:17am On Oct 04
raumdeuter:

So Kamala and Amazon are women who hate other women

And you are the make belief woman who loves women more than natural born women

You can go for your gender change

You seem to miss the point a lot. It's not whether Harris prefers being called Kamala. It's why I chose to call here Kamala.
And thinking about it and seeing the data from the studies, I realized that I and probably a lot of people have an implicit bias around this. And thus it is something I chose to be aware of and correct.
I am comfortable with my own growth and evaluating my biases when I see evidence that one may exist.
You should explore the insecurity you have that you consider that a feminine trait.

You seem chalk full of toxic masculinity. Combined with your third tier education, I see why you have a predilection for wannabe strong men like Trump. You have all the traits of an emotionally frail man.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Xavier5(m): 8:32am On Oct 04
IjeBos:
And don't worry I still think you're center right.

Good for you, but here's the thing, what you think of me is useless and irrelevant. You can scream center right from now till tomorrow if it makes you feel good, but that doesn't make me that.

Like it or not, I'm a liberal... a liberal that's enormously committed to Liberal values such as; Human rights and value, liberty, equality, reasoning, open mindedness, progressiveness, democracy, consent of the governed, truth etc

And these liberal values prevents me from going radical in my liberalism. They prevent me from ass licking the left wing, but rather make me stand for what's true and objective. They make me call out the bullshit, irrespective of whether it's left or right, and to commend goodness, irrespective of it's left or right. That's just it.

Commitment to these values make me clash with some liberals at times, which results in the tag, "not liberal enough", because I chose not to accept their myopic or radical liberal views that now dominate 21st century liberalism.

So if my commitment to those liberal values make me "not liberal enough", or make you think I'm center right simply because I clash with you on some issues, then so be it. But irrespective of what you or anyone here thinks, I, Xavier is a liberal... a proud liberal for that matter, but not a radical one, that's the difference, and nothing will ever change that.


#Xavier

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Xavier5(m): 8:45am On Oct 04
budaatum:


It is not Trump or Kamala that are looking to weaken the democratic and governmental institutions. One can't argue however that there aren't some (Thiel, Hamas, Putin, Rocket Man, China, etc), who will profit from such weakening, and are prepared to work towards weakening it by using the unaware trumps and kamalas.

The democratic and governmental institution will become weak when people become complacent. Thankfully, the constant resilience and strength I see encourages me.

Every institution that exist have opposing systems attempting to pull it down, and democracy won't be the anomaly.

Democracy, especially, America's democracy, have always been under attack and will always be, just like every other institution out there.

But here's the fact, America's democracy have been winning over its opposing systems and will continue to win. Why? Because Americans are one, committed to progress. Two, Americans, are patriotic, and thirdly, Americans love their liberty, and will fight through tooth and nail to ensure that. And by Americans, I mean liberals, conservatives and independents. Yes, there are very few bad eggs, but hey, good luck with them going against the vast majority.

America's democracy will crumble if and only if Americans let it, but due to the mentioned, such will not happen, be it or now or the future. I don't see any cause for alarm.

So all those noise about threat to democracy is just fear mongering propagated by certain groups. America's democratic and governmental institutions are strong, all thanks to patriotic, progress, and liberty loving Americans.


#Xavier

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Xavier5(m): 9:08am On Oct 04
IjeBos:


A lot of the sentiment you hear and I hear is implicit sexism. I realized a lot of Nigerian men do not want Harris to win because it will affect theit world view and their belief that they are dominant over woman. Cna't relaly tell your wife you're a woman and I'm a man so I have more power, when the most powerful person in the world is a woman.
And everyone has that implicit bias, I realized even I do. I call Harris by her first name Kamala and Trump and Biden by their last. Why? Read a good article that it's sexism and it happens to a lot of female doctors. So, I've been making an effort to call her Harris.

Honestly, this implicit bias you're talking about is alien to me. I've always called people by first name or their full name, and if there's a title, I add it. Yes, at times I call people by their surnames if that's what I noticed they are often being called with, and this has nothing to do with sexism to me, because I do it both to males and females.

For example, I call Kamala Harris, Harris. Sometimes, Kamala, other times Kamala Harris, Vice President, Vice President Harris, Vice President Kamala or Vice President Kamala Harris. This is also applicable to the way I call Trump with the exclusion that I've never called him, Donald, and that's because I rarely hear people call him that, so I just go with the flow, unlike Kamala Harris that gets called often with Kamala, Harris or Kamala Harris. To me, this has nothing to do with sexism, but rather how a person is often called by people. And this, I think, is applicable to lots of people. Not everything is sexism.


#Xavier
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:37am On Oct 04
Xavier5:

But here's the fact, America's democracy have been winning over its opposing systems and will continue to win. Why? Because Americans are one, committed to progress. Two, Americans, are patriotic, and thirdly, Americans love their liberty, and will fight through tooth and nail to ensure that. And by Americans, I mean liberals, conservatives and independents. Yes, there are very few bad eggs, but hey, good luck with them going against the vast majority.
Basically, Americans are not complacent, as I said.

Xavier5:
America's democracy will crumble if and only if Americans let it, but due to the mentioned, such will not happen, be it or now or the future. I don't see any cause for alarm.
As in, if Americans become complacent, which is unlikely.

Xavier5:
So all those noise about threat to democracy is just fear mongering propagated by certain groups. America's democratic and governmental institutions are strong, all thanks to patriotic, progress, and liberty loving Americans.
The fear mongering is indicative of a lack of complacency. Complacent people do not fear and therefore end up with weak institutions.

One just need compare to complacent Nigeria, where about 94 million registered to vote and less than 9 milion elected the president and about 20 million in total voted. That, is complacency. A malardy America does not suffer from, and the reason their democracy is strong.

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