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Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by Nwiellect(m): 10:35am On Oct 05
Sometimes I wander if there is any integrity left in the judicial system of this country.

If policy don't take part in the election, would that means the election is illegal.

Is police now inec that is supposed to conduct an election.

Why not direct inec not to conduct the election If your judgement has no bigmanphobia and the favoured me agenda.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by Major7: 10:46am On Oct 05
helinues:


This your arguments no dey make sense at all





Aweee, I strongly disagree with you blindly supporting what’s not right. A proper omoluabi should always stand up for what’s right. It’s not just about about blindly following our own without true criticism for a good cause.

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Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by zoedew: 10:48am On Oct 05
IfnobeGod20:
The order of the federal high court on it own is even juvenile. The FHC did not say election should not hold but says police should not provide security and INEC should not release voters' register to RSIEC.
Now, see the juvenile in the order. You didn't say election should not hold but still went ahead to tell an institution to provide security for the election you didn't stop not to provide security, which is its statutory duty. The judge certificate need to be seized from him asap.
Again, it was even wrong for him to entertain any suit as regard the local government election because the highest court of the land had given express judgement to all states to conduct election within three months of their judgement. Why would any lower court feign ignorance of such judgement of the supreme court. He should have blatantly rejected the suit for an order to wanting to jeopardise the conduct of the local government election as there is a superior order of the highest court of the land. He should have told them, he cannot give such order until they place unnotice those that will be affected by the order. That would have shown he is following the rule and he knows what he is doing.
There is no point repeating myself. We will see how it goes post the election.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by wirinet(m): 11:11am On Oct 05
helinues:
NBA are talking nonsense

Are police above court orders?
So to you the courts can bar the police from providing security for Amy part of the Federation? Next the courts can also bar the army fr defending any part of Nigeria if invaded?

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Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by wirinet(m): 11:16am On Oct 05
blowjohn:
that the police would refrain from providing security during the elections, citing compliance with a Federal High Court order.


This means that police will do their work of providing normal security in the state, but will not dispatch officers to take part( of course security wise in the election)


The NBA are using sense to make it sound like the court said police should stop work.

Are elections done everyday? Are elections not a special process that usually demand police presence?


So the police is saying that court has told them not to take part in it. The police never said they would neglect their normal duties of general security.


Whether the courts were right or not is not the issue here.


Be like say english hard for many people.
It's not about elections per se, its about providing security if and when there is a breakdown of law and order. So what the court is saying is that if there was a crime being commited or there is break down of law and order during the elections, the police should not step in and make arrests.
Even if its a birthday party and there is a possibly of a breakdown of law and order, the police should just be onlookers and not interfere.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by PARADIZEPRIEST: 11:18am On Oct 05
POLICE PASS POLICE. THEY SHOULD USE MILITARYT POLICE OR NAVY POLICE IN RIVERS
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by kingbee90: 11:38am On Oct 05
boxypane:

Chief. Nor be me be Nigeria wey happen to you. I understand you are frustrated one way or the other. But I don't care a bit.
From your response, it's obvious you are fkd.
You are the fkd, dumb and ignorant one. If you are learned and know your geography very well, you wouldn't have made that dumb statement.
Nigeria is already happening to you and your people who will vote in rubbish and start shouting 'ebin pawa' months later .
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by cjayro12345: 11:45am On Oct 05
Hmmmmmmmm. Na wa oooh.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by Bennycollins: 11:45am On Oct 05
helinues:


So the court is now useless?

Some of you just don't know nada about how things work
Any law that is inconsistent with the provisions of theconstitution is null and void already, Mr man.
Of course the whole world knows that ours is an odious society, run like a zoo. No surprise therefore to see some people like you supporting these absurdities.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by henrysam(m): 11:57am On Oct 05
Oghene86:


Go rest abeg, don't they have constitutional duties, is the useless Court order more superior to the constitution
Don't mind the guy. He no dey use his brain at all.
Na one of the mumu wey dey give us problems in this country
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by Proudlyngwa(m): 12:01pm On Oct 05
helinues:


This your arguments no dey make sense at all


You are a big disgrace and disappointment to humanity

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Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by Poisonousman: 12:02pm On Oct 05
helinues:
NBA are talking nonsense

Are police above court orders?

See your mouth... see why you don't know anything... blocked brain...
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by davidque: 12:14pm On Oct 05
helinues:
NBA are talking nonsense

Are police above court orders?

The Police is meant to provide security whether there are elections or not. that is all the NBA said, even if they don't provide security for polling units they are to protect citizens nonetheless, it is a constitutional role that even the biased court should know and differentiate in clear terms from election security. Comprehension isn't that difficult
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by NAC1666: 12:23pm On Oct 05
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by boxypane(m): 12:25pm On Oct 05
kingbee90:

You are the fkd, dumb and ignorant one. If you are learned and know your geography very well, you wouldn't have made that dumb statement.
Nigeria is already happening to you and your people who will vote in rubbish and start shouting 'ebin pawa' months later .
Them dey go left......... You don almost reach Yaba left...
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by Mrtaye: 12:32pm On Oct 05
Omozeez1:
court can say doctor should not attend to a notorious armed robber who was shot.
Your own court abi🤫😆
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by Arabs999: 12:41pm On Oct 05
oz4real83:
The judiciary has always been the problem of Nigeria, why the judiciary will grant such an order is beyond imagination shocked
Justice for Sale
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by franugo(m): 12:53pm On Oct 05
helinues:


So the court is now useless?

Some of you just don't know nada about how things work

Nigga hush! No court can stop the police from carrying out it's constitutional role. The only reason police is against this and behaving like this is cause they want to and the court order is just a nice reason for them to give. No be police wey dey ignore court orders wey dem no like? You talk like we're not in the same country. Igbetokun is obviously doing wike's bidding
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by blowjohn(m): 1:39pm On Oct 05
wirinet:

It's not about elections per se, its about providing security if and when there is a breakdown of law and order. So what the court is saying is that if there was a crime being commited or there is break down of law and order during the elections, the police should not step in and make arrests.
Even if its a birthday party and there is a possibly of a breakdown of law and order, the police should just be onlookers and not interfere.



Again, if there is a break down of law and order, of cos the proper thing to do is to reach out to the police either by calling or going to the station.

Even if it's a birthday party and something goes wrong, it's to call the police.


But this court order is very specific ( the L.G.A elections)
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by Thinktwicemybro: 3:56pm On Oct 05
helinues:


This your arguments no dey make sense at all
That's because you don't have sense
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by jaxxy(m): 4:12pm On Oct 05
helinues:


So the court is now useless?

Some of you just don't know nada about how things work

unconstitutional Court order.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by wirinet(m): 4:16pm On Oct 05
blowjohn:




Again, if there is a break down of law and order, of cos the proper thing to do is to reach out to the police either by calling or going to the station.

Even if it's a birthday party and something goes wrong, it's to call the police.


But this court order is very specific ( the L.G.A elections)

Once again the courts have no say where and when elections are held. The courts cannot set date and time for federal, state or local government elections. It can only litigate about the legality of elections after they have been held.

It's like setting the date of your birthday or wedding, and the courts ordering the police not to provide security at the venue. You might have asked for police protection because your enemies have insisted that you must not celebrate your birthday on a certain date, and that they would cause mayhem if you do.

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Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by professorPABX: 6:00pm On Oct 05
helinues:
NBA are talking nonsense

Are police above court orders?

NBA is talking nonsense. I agreed with you 100%. NBA became fractionalized, political and irrelevant to national politics beginning from Jonathan era. All the human rights lawyers along their axis, very popular SAN Lawyers defended Jonathan government ridiculously. One of them defended Yahaya Bello against EFCC on print and electronic media recently.
The election of Paul Usoro, Olumide Akpata and this present Osigwe are purely political.

When Afe Babalola and his kinsman Wole Olanipekun from Ekiti both very experienced Lawyers were fined for challenging Supreme Court judgement in Bayelsa few years ago I know something happened in the background. People said Mary Odili acted against IMO Supreme Court judgement. It is not surprising that NBA can ask Police to provide security for an election the Court had restricted INEC from participating . Is there no difference between maintenance of order and security as encapsulated in the constitution and defending illegality.

In 2015, Presidential election was postponed on Security Reason. Events have been suspended or postponed based on Security report . It is the duty of Police and DSS to determine the security situation of an environment. It is the duty of the Court to give judgement and the duty of Law Enforcement agencies to enforce court judgement.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by blowjohn(m): 6:54pm On Oct 05
wirinet:


Once again the courts have no say where and when elections are held. The courts cannot set date and time for federal, state or local government elections. It can only litigate about the legality of elections after they have been held.

It's like setting the date of your birthday or wedding, and the courts ordering the police not to provide security at the venue. You might have asked for police protection because your enemies have insisted that you must not celebrate your birthday on a certain date, and that they would cause mayhem if you do.

Ok I get ur point.
So I ask, who do we blame for the confusion or error(in decision) ? The court or the police.

I say the court. U?
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by professorPABX: 7:27pm On Oct 05
blowjohn:


Ok I get ur point.
So I ask, who do we blame for the confusion or error(in decision) ? The court or the police.

I say the court. U?



I believe you and the other person are in the same room or might even be the same person. The analysis he gave you is for kindergarten pupils.

The Interpretation of Laws is done by Judiciary and not Social Media miscreants. The duty of Law Enforcement agencies is to enforce Laws delivered by the Judiciary. If the judgement is not fair to any party it can only be challenged in Law Court anything contrary is against the law as delivered by the last Court of competent jurisdiction.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by BondRiv: 8:50pm On Oct 05
The police won't support that illegal election in disobedience to the court. This present NBA leadership is desperate to create the impression that they are working. Better focus on tackling the issue of seal and stamp.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by wirinet(m): 9:24pm On Oct 05
blowjohn:


Ok I get ur point.
So I ask, who do we blame for the confusion or error(in decision) ? The court or the police.

I say the court. U?


The court and the police. Both seem to be working in concert to prevent Rivers State Election commission appointed by the governor from conducting local government elections.
It is unconstitutional for the courts to order the police not to perform their constitutional duty of providing security and its unconstitutional for the police to obey an unconstitutional court to obey an unconstitutional order.
The courts cannot order the police to commit an murder and the police cannot commit murder based on a court order.

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Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by wirinet(m): 9:28pm On Oct 05
BondRiv:
The police won't support that illegal election in disobedience to the court. This present NBA leadership is desperate to create the impression that they are working. Better focus on tackling the issue of seal and stamp.
The police is not in any position to support any election - legal or illegal. They are only to provide security to elections or any other situation that requires security. There are ample provisions within the law to determine the legality or otherwise of election after they have been held.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by wirinet(m): 9:31pm On Oct 05
professorPABX:


NBA is talking nonsense. I agreed with you 100%. NBA became fractionalized, political and irrelevant to national politics beginning from Jonathan era. All the human rights lawyers along their axis, very popular SAN Lawyers defended Jonathan government ridiculously. One of them defended Yahaya Bello against EFCC on print and electronic media recently.
The election of Paul Usoro, Olumide Akpata and this present Osigwe are purely political.

When Afe Babalola and his kinsman Wole Olanipekun from Ekiti both very experienced Lawyers were fined for challenging Supreme Court judgement in Bayelsa few years ago I know something happened in the background. People said Mary Odili acted against IMO Supreme Court judgement. It is not surprising that NBA can ask Police to provide security for an election the Court had restricted INEC from participating . Is there no difference between maintenance of order and security as encapsulated in the constitution and defending illegality.

In 2015, Presidential election was postponed on Security Reason. Events have been suspended or postponed based on Security report . It is the duty of Police and DSS to determine the security situation of an environment. It is the duty of the Court to give judgement and the duty of Law Enforcement agencies to enforce court judgement.


It was not the courts or the police that suspended the 2015 elections. It was INEC itself that rescheduled the elections based on advice by the government. The courts and police don't have any role in determining when elections are to be held.

Are you guys insinuating that INEC can determine a date for general elections and a high court judge can then declare the elections cannot hold on the said date, and then the police would prevent the elections from holding?
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by blowjohn(m): 10:20pm On Oct 05
wirinet:

The court and the police. Both seem to be working in concert to prevent Rivers State Election commission appointed by the governor from conducting local government elections.
It is unconstitutional for the courts to order the police not to perform their constitutional duty of providing security and its unconstitutional for the police to obey an unconstitutional court to obey an unconstitutional order.
The courts cannot order the police to commit an murder and the police cannot commit murder based on a court order.


Hmm... Those are valid points.

My premise was( I may be wrong) that the rivers state government was prevented from carrying out the election by a court ruling.... Hence the further directive that the police should not take part in it too.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by blowjohn(m): 10:24pm On Oct 05
professorPABX:


I believe you and the other person are in the same room or might even be the same person. The analysis he gave you is for kindergarten pupils.

The Interpretation of Laws is done by Judiciary and not Social Media miscreants. The duty of Law Enforcement agencies is to enforce Laws delivered by the Judiciary. If the judgement is not fair to any party it can only be challenged in Law Court anything contrary is against the law as delivered by the last Court of competent jurisdiction.


I don't get what u meant by ur first paragraph o. This is me and me only.

I replied someone who called me out and made some valid points.

Am of the opinion that the court is above the police. Wether the judgment is fair or not is another thing. The police in this case acted frm the point of a court ruling.
If they ca challenge it before the election, then fine.
Re: NBA Reacts To Police’s Decision Not To Provide Security For Rivers LGA Election by Hmmm5(m): 12:36am On Oct 06
The supreme court of Nigeria which is the highest court in the land instructed all states involved to ensure their LGA election is held within 90 days. How on earth will a high court in Abuja counter such order? Moreover, Fubara also got a counter court order from the River state high court to go on with the election, supporting the order of the supreme court, mind you, the Abuja high court is not superior to the River state high court. In such situation, the police should have obeyed the order of the highest court in the land, but, they took a political side by supporting Wike , this àct by the Nigerian police is a total disgrace , should be punished by the court and the presidency, unfortunately, na Dem Dem.
quote author=helinues post=132293080]NBA are talking nonsense

Are police above court orders?[/quote]

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