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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 5:55pm On Oct 05
timbros:


Really? Foden vs De Lima? Really?!!

Wetin dey worry all this Gen Z sef? Foden and De Lima in one sentence....! Na wao

You don take am P grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:56pm On Oct 05
Android17:
That Foden is a fraud.

My response was "This guy?"

Like saying, this guy might be having some drab performances but he is not a fraud --> see his credentials.

"This guy?" showing a stat completely different from the competition under discussion. Talk about context.

What will your response be if we were talking about Ahmed Musa in his Leicester days and I pull out something like this...

World Cup goals

Ahmed Musa.... 4
Lewandowski.... 2

How will you look at me?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:57pm On Oct 05
Leyqute:


You don take am P grin

grin grin

Omor... E get some kind thing wey you go see, you no go just understand. I mean, which kind post be that?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 6:03pm On Oct 05
Android17:
If I show that Haaland has 42 UCL goals and Del Piero has 41 in response to a comment calling Haaland a fraud,

Does that mean I'm comparing Haaland vs Del Piero or am I showing that Erling's 42 goals must be a big deal since he has 1 more than Del Piero (that many regard as a UCL legend)?

This is common and simple understanding.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 6:04pm On Oct 05
Tarkowski concedes a penalty after basically ragdolling Tonali to the floor. Peak foolishness
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 6:05pm On Oct 05
timbros:


grin grin

Omor... E get some kind thing wey you go see, you no go just understand. I mean, which kind post be that?

Android is often extreme. See how he just casually rolled out the stat, as if it would erase how hard Foden suckked in games. Comparing him with DeLima who scored in World Cup finals for fun is just something else

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 6:06pm On Oct 05
timbros:


"This guy?" showing a stat completely different from the competition under discussion. Talk about context.

What will your response be if we were talking about Ahmed Musa in his Leicester days and I pull out something like this...

World Cup goals

Ahmed Musa.... 4
Lewandowski.... 2

How will you look at me?

It means Musa was hot while at Leicester and his 4 world cup goals isn't common.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 6:06pm On Oct 05
BlueMann:
Tarkowski concedes a penalty after basically ragdolling Tonali to the floor. Peak foolishness

Very controversial penalty. And Gordon misses it. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 6:06pm On Oct 05
Pickford denies former Everton boy Gordon from the spot!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 6:07pm On Oct 05
timbros:


"This guy?" showing a stat completely different from the competition under discussion. Talk about context.

What will your response be if we were talking about Ahmed Musa in his Leicester days and I pull out something like this...

World Cup goals

Ahmed Musa.... 4
Lewandowski.... 2

How will you look at me?
If the statement is Ahmed Musa is a fraud and you cite this to defend him I'll know that you're saying he is not a fraud if he has done something a great player like Lewandowski has not done.

The context is, Ahmed is a fraud not who is the better player.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 6:07pm On Oct 05
Leyqute:


Very controversial penalty. And Gordon misses it. grin

Very reckless from Tarkowski. Tonali didn't even need to throw himself to the ground like most players do. The guy bin wan tear e shirt
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 6:10pm On Oct 05
Leyqute:


Android is often extreme. See how he just casually rolled out the stat, as if it would erase how hard Foden suckked in games. Comparing him with DeLima who scored in World Cup finals for fun is just something else
I don't know if you're being mischievous or you truly believe what you are saying.

I've always categorized you as someone with better understanding than the average nairalander.

If someone says apart from scoring, Erling does nothing and I bring a stat showing he has more assists than Bruno this season, does that mean I am comparing him to Bruno?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:13pm On Oct 05
swiz123:
This is why I prefer rating players by their performances in big games.

The Southampton defender just gave Saka a delicious assist.

You clearly don't watch arsenal match often but u want to judge Saka based on one or two matches u watched with agenda.

The least G/A Saka has against any traditional top 6 team is 4G/A and that's against city. He has 6 G/A each against Loserpool and Tottenham. He has 5 G/A against man utd and Chelsea as well.

If those are not big games, then what games are?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Shegzdave: 6:27pm On Oct 05
BlueRayDick:


You clearly don't watch arsenal match often but u want to judge Saka based on one or two matches u watched with agenda.

The least G/A Saka has against any traditional top 6 team is 4G/A and that's against city. He has 6 G/A each against Loserpool and Tottenham. He has 5 G/A against man utd and Chelsea as well.

If those are not big games, then what games are?
If you check the Harvertz he’s stans G/A it’s still the same Saka he doesn’t rate that assist him
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by cuffee: 6:34pm On Oct 05
I don't know about you. Mudryk should stick to passing. He cannot dribble successfully. I saw the game against gent and anytime the ball comes to him, he was just do leg over as if he can beat his marker. before you know it, he has lost the ball

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:34pm On Oct 05
Shegzdave:

If you check the Harvertz he’s stans G/A it’s still the same Saka he doesn’t rate that assist him

Na agenda na.Seeing that his post, One would think Saka doesn't score or assist in big games.

Then you start to wonder who has been scoring or assisting for arsenal in those big games we've been doing well.

Anyways, Agenda must agend Sha

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Shegzdave: 6:36pm On Oct 05
BlueRayDick:


Na agenda na.Seeing that his post, One would think Saka doesn't score or assist in big games.

Then you start to wonder who has been scoring or assisting for arsenal in those big games we've been doing well.

Anyways, Agenda must agenda Sha
Someone once said this is AGENDALAND so I’m not suprised
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 6:51pm On Oct 05
Leyqute:


Android is often extreme. See how he just casually rolled out the stat, as if it would erase how hard Foden suckked in games. Comparing him with DeLima who scored in World Cup finals for fun is just something else

If no be Gen Z wey carry G/A for head instead of looking at overall play, why will one even think of typing the name Foden beside De Lima?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 6:52pm On Oct 05
swiz123:


It means Musa was hot while at Leicester and his 4 world cup goals isn't common.

Did Lewandowski played in EPL? What does World Cup goal has to do with EPL?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 6:54pm On Oct 05
Android17:
If the statement is Ahmed Musa is a fraud and you cite this to defend him I'll know that you're saying he is not a fraud if he has done something a great player like Lewandowski has not done.

The context is, Ahmed is a fraud not who is the better player.

The context is EPL. Leicester.

Did Lewandowski play in EPL? What has World Cup goal has to do with Musa form in EPL?

Someone mentioned how Foden is a fraud for dropping another 0 goal 0 assist in EPL and the first thing that comes into your mind is dropping his UCL goals in comparison to Ronaldo. Wow!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 7:04pm On Oct 05
Android17:
I don't know if you're being mischievous or you truly believe what you are saying.

I've always categorized you as someone with better understanding than the average nairalander.

If someone says apart from scoring, Erling does nothing and I bring a stat showing he has more assists than Bruno this season, does that mean I am comparing him to Bruno?

Yes.

If you said that, you’d be using selective comparison as a tool to bolster your Haaland agenda.

If Haaland had more assists than KDB (or Foden for that matter), would you mention them to prove your point ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 7:06pm On Oct 05
timbros:


If no be Gen Z wey carry G/A for head instead of looking at overall play, why will one even think of typing the name Foden beside De Lima?

Android didn’t take it small. As if Haaland could square against dem Zanetti and Maldini. Na that day e go know say no be by power.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 7:15pm On Oct 05
timbros:


The context is EPL. Leicester.

Did Lewandowski play in EPL? What has World Cup goal has to do with Musa form in EPL?

Someone mentioned how Foden is a fraud for dropping another 0 goal 0 assist in EPL and the first thing that comes into your mind is dropping his UCL goals in comparison to Ronaldo. Wow!
The context is Ahmed Musa IS A FRAUD. Stop turning amala that you are not even skilled at turning. The statement was Foden is a fraud.

Once you call a player a fraud, anyone defending him can bring any data from any competition that negates that opinion. It is irrelevant if you think it will suffice.

Like Swiz123 said, that's just common sense.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 7:16pm On Oct 05
Leyqute:


Yes.

If you said that, you’d be using selective comparison as a tool to bolster your Haaland agenda.

If Haaland had more assists than KDB (or Foden for that matter), would you mention them to prove your point ?

Yes I will, because the context is to show HE DOES MORE THAN SCORING. Not that he is being compared DIRECTLY to any of those players.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 7:19pm On Oct 05
timbros:


If no be Gen Z wey carry G/A for head instead of looking at overall play, why will one even think of typing the name Foden beside De Lima?
I'm not statmuse. I did not compare Foden to De Lima.

I showed that a player who has more UCL goals than El Fenomeno cannot be a fraud.

It does not mean I'm comparing Foden to Delima.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 7:23pm On Oct 05
Android17:
Yes I will, because the context is to show HE DOES MORE THAN SCORING. Not that he is being compared DIRECTLY to any of those players.

Based on that mentality, Charlie McNeil is a bigger talent than Foden. Hes singlehandedly dragging Everton along while Foden can’t even get a starting shirt.

McNeil - 3 goals + 2 assists
Foden - 0 goals, 0 assists

Yahoo boy pro max

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 7:23pm On Oct 05
This does not mean I'm comparing Rico to TAA.

It could have meant that without any context - if I just posted this image. However, if someone says Rico is a fraud, I can post the below and say "This guy?".

It simply means, a player who has assisted more goals than TAA this season is not a fraud. It does not mean I'm saying he is better than TAA. The context is, I'm defending him from being a fraud.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 7:26pm On Oct 05
Leyqute:


Based on that mentality, Charlie McNeil is a bigger talent than Foden. Hes singlehandedly dragging Everton along while Foden can’t even get a starting shirt.

McNeil - 3 goals + 2 assists
Foden - 0 goals, 0 assists

Yahoo boy pro max
LOL. Foden has not started the season well so I'm not defending him based on what he has played this season.

I'm defending him based on his antecedents.

Seems people forget the City routine every season.

We start slowly and then ramp up by the turn of the next year. Foden's performances will peak when City's peaks. Till then, y'all can call him names. It is allowed.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DeeScan: 7:29pm On Oct 05
Android17:
This does not mean I'm comparing Rico to TAA.

It could have meant that without any context - if I just posted this image. However, if someone says Rico is a fraud, I can post the below and say "This guy?".

It simply means, a player who has assisted more goals than TAA this season is not a fraud. It does not mean I'm saying he is better than TAA. The context is, I'm defending him from being a fraud.


It all boils down to slot's tactics .. TAA under klopp would've racked up assists already ...

We do more of passing around and slow build up play than klopp's direct heavy metal play ..


Put TAA in than city squad and he'd have more or equal of that Rico's number already..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 7:30pm On Oct 05
BlueRayDick:


You clearly don't watch arsenal match often but u want to judge Saka based on one or two matches u watched with agenda.

The least G/A Saka has against any traditional top 6 team is 4G/A and that's against city. He has 6 G/A each against Loserpool and Tottenham. He has 5 G/A against man utd and Chelsea as well.

If those are not big games, then what games are?

Why then is Arsenal yet to win a spoon? You think it's by calculating stats from set pieces and crosses.

How high stake matches did he influence Arsenal to win?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 7:30pm On Oct 05
DeeScan:


It all boils down to slot's tactics .. TAA under klopp would've racked up assists already ...

We do more of passing around and slow build up play than klopp's direct heavy metal play ..


Put TAA in than city squad and he'd have more or equal of that Rico's number already..
Like I said, I'm not comparing them. TAA is better.

But if someone called Rico a fraud, I can use this stat to defend him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DeeScan: 7:33pm On Oct 05
Android17:
Like I said, I'm not comparing them. TAA is better.

But if someone called Rico a fraud, I can use this stat to defend him.


Alright then ....

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