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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:22pm On Oct 07
Xavier5:

Belief is subjective in the context of personal opinion? Or in the context that certain values or beliefs are inherent true and right? Which one.
Belief is subjective in all contexts, because it is done by individual subjects.

Personal opinion is also subjective because it is the opinion of personal individual subjects.

Value, as in, what is held to be of value, and the value things have, is subjective, because value is determined by individual subjects, a la one persons gold is another person's dross.

Xavier5:

Secondly, we can't all believe the same things, that's true.
Bingo.

And that's because we are all individual subjective subjects, each with separate brains in our heads, and with different educations and dictionaries, and understandings and contexts and etc and etc and etc and......

Xavier5:
But the argument is not if we must or should belief the same thing, but if some beliefs are inherently true or right.
When beliefs are true or right, they stop being beliefs and become knowledge.

And this, by the way, is why your post should be in a thread in the religious section where it rightly belongs, so I wouldn't need to hesitate to educate you about how stupid ignorant Adam was enslaved to the belief he would surely die until use her senses Eve freed him from slavery with knowledge.

I may believe all I want that I have a billion pounds in my bank account, but on going to my bank and checking my account I would know if I had a billion pounds in my bank account or not instead of merely believing unverified ignorant crap in my head like basilico always does here.

I may of course decide to go on believing whatever I want despite the available evidence but the objective reality is there whether I choose to accept it or not.

And on that note, I must plug The Newsroom, the series I'm currently watching. It shows the difference between belief and knowledge, and the extent competent journalists will go to differentiate between the 2.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:25pm On Oct 07
LordReed:
BTW are you the one who said Xavier5 isn't a liberal? Do you know who said so?

I know Ijebos said so, my Lord. And I want to keep apologising to him for seeming to challenge his saying so.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:28pm On Oct 07
Trump went to the disaster area to help. IjeBos and Obrigardo were angry. I heard the $750 is a lone

This woman is rightfully calling out anyone jumping on her posts to defend our cruel, incompetent, corrupt, America last administration!

“While Trump was with the hurricane victims, donated 25 million of his own money, on top of starting a GoFundMe account, your VP was out campaigning for votes she’s not gonna get!”

Kamala shows up FIVE days later talking about $750.00 that not one victim has received, not to mention Biden who forgot about the storm 5 minutes after he left.

There are millions of illegals in hotels getting plenty of money, food stamps and everything they need while Americans are suffering - and people are still trying to defend that?

https://twitter.com/RealSeq16/status/1842978689497354729?t=KkRK8IU11AWbwgQMfCLQBg&s=19
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:33pm On Oct 07
bemeruca:


So you are angry?

You'd be fine if TDS was not an issue for you.

TDS is a huge issue for buda, and you should know that by now.

At the last presidential election in USA, buda went to Wuhan to create Covid and brought it to America to kill millions of magas so dump would have fewer votes than Biden.

At the presidential election in USA in less than 30 days, all the immigrants, legal and illegal, that buda has been bringing into america will all vote for Kamala so she wins the presidential election.

Trust me, when I say we are not only eating the dogs and eating the cats and eating the pets in Springfield, but are using their blood to do the voodoo so dump loses all over America!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:39pm On Oct 07
wirinet:


You can't be liberal and at the same time be anti-abortion. Liberalism to means freedom of beliefs, actions and my body, as long as it does not infringement on the rights of other persons or injurious to the long term wellbeing of society.

I'd go as far as saying, the definition of liberalism is summed up in my body my choice, and I'm not limiting it to abortions.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Xavier5(m): 1:44pm On Oct 07
budaatum:

Belief is subjective in all contexts, because it is done by individual subjects.

Personal opinion is also subjective because it is the opinion of personal individual subjects.

Value, as in, what is held to be of value, and the value things have, is subjective, because value is determined by individual subjects, a la one persons gold is another person's dross.


Bingo.

And that's because we are all individual subjective subjects, each with separate brains in our heads, and with different educations and dictionaries, and understandings and contexts and etc and etc and etc and......


When beliefs are true or right, they stop being beliefs and become knowledge.

I wanted to go with a follow up question, does that mean nothing is actually or inherently true or right? But then I saw the bolded. At least, you admit that truly there are things that are actually or inherently true or right, irrespective of individual opinions. You call them knowledge, I call them diverse names; concepts, beliefs, values, knowledge that are inherently or actually true or right. That's all I've been saying all this while.

Personal opinions are personal opinions. Reality is reality. How do we know what's actually or inherently true or right? Evidence, reasoning, and universal intrinsic knowing. And that's the summary of all I've been saying. That's why I made it clear that objectivity and subjectivity both exist... in the context that some things are actually or inherently true or right irrespective of personal or individual opinions or perspectives.



#Xavier
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:54pm On Oct 07
budaatum:


TDS is a huge issue for buda, and you should know that by now.

At the last presidential election in USA, buda went to Wuhan to create Covid and brought it to America to kill millions of magas so dump would have fewer votes than Biden.

At the presidential election in USA in less than 30 days, all the immigrants, legal and illegal, that buda has been bringing into america will all vote for Kamala so she wins the presidential election.

Trust me, when I say we are not only eating the dogs and eating the cats and eating the pets in Springfield, but are using their blood to do the voodoo so dump loses all over America!

TDS is now putting you in a hallucination state.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:56pm On Oct 07
FEMA should be replaced

All the money goes into housing illegals while Americans in need get it as a loan.

Anything the democrats touch turns to shit
https://twitter.com/Flylittledoggie/status/1843250923583472116?t=k8bKcUjkh5uwAfMjntQCeA&s=19

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Xavier5(m): 2:13pm On Oct 07
wirinet:


You can't be liberal and at the same time be anti-abortion. Liberalism to means freedom of beliefs, actions and my body, as long as it does not infringement on the rights of other persons or injurious to the long term wellbeing of society.

Therein lies the problem. I don't share this version of liberalism. I've made known, in details, my version of liberalism which is based on the fundamental value of intrinsic human value, on which other values such as human rights, equality and liberty are based on. And because of my version of liberalism, I'm pro-life. And because of my version of liberalism, I'm hugely pro liberty, especially with one's body, but when a human life is being threatened or hurt, then I oppose. Which begs the question, is a fetus a human life?

I've come across people that share my version of liberalism, and I've come across those that share yours.

But, as I've earlier said, if your definition of liberalism is the dominant definition of liberalism in this thread, then I can't associate with it, I prefer to be seen as an independent in this thread.

This discussion has already been done, and I don't want to go into that rollercoaster, but I just feel I should let you know... if it matters.



#Xavier

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:27pm On Oct 07
wirinet:


You can't be liberal and at the same time be anti-abortion. Liberalism to means freedom of beliefs, actions and my body, as long as it does not infringement on the rights of other persons or injurious to the long term wellbeing of society.

This is utter nonsense. A false dichotomy at its finest.

You giving the notion that a person must either support complete freedom over one's or not be a liberal. liberalism is not monolithic, no be black and white thing same as many other things in life; it encompasses a range of positions on issues too. Person wey advocate for personal freedoms but still have reservations about abortion based on ethics.

Generalization, you have the modest view of freedom you don't care about ethics and you left no room for nuance. Maybe you guys don't understand what liberalism is

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:35pm On Oct 07
budaatum:

You think? Like bad things are happening to people like Guilani and Sidney Powell and Mr Infowars and the pussy grabber who believe dump won the last election or who drink bleach for covid? Really?

Dude, bad things are happening to magas on Truth Social already, and I am glad it is!


Biden can't and shouldn't waste his time attacking people's 1st Amendment. If fuqers break the law, the law will break them eventually.

Lol. I mean to the US.
In this scenario there are people who may need aid who may not get it because of the disinformation Musk is spreading.

Biden should speak out. Not only would it be good governing (making sure people know what resources are available) it would be good politics. Showing Trump to be a liar about something as serious as a disaster.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:39pm On Oct 07
Xavier5:

I wanted to go with a follow up question, does that mean nothing is inherently true or right? But then I saw the bolded. At least, you admit that truly there are things that are actually or inherently true or right, irrespective of individual opinions. You call them knowledge, I call them diverse names; concepts, beliefs, values, knowledge that are inherently or actually true or right. That's all I've been saying all this while.

Did you read where I said hot is 0⁰c in humptydumpty land? Please go back and read Ijebos responses in that conversation, as they rightly apply here.

Knowledge is not belief. (I have depluralised it on purpose). And the only reason you think otherwise is religion, which synonymises both words.

Xavier5:

Personal opinions are personal opinions. Reality is reality. How do we know what's actually or inherently true or right? Evidence, reasoning, and universal intrinsic knowing.

You see the bold? I've been letting you get away with it, but the truth is it is nonsense and meaningless, as there is no universe that intrinsically knows anything, and nor do we humans all universally know the same things. And while you might not admit it, I am fully aware that it's a camouflage for some imaginary God.

And now to your question "How do we know what's actually or inherently true or right?" Which is linguistically faulty, as true and right are not as interchangeable as you think, since "right" can mean "correct", or "proper", which are not the same thing as what is "true"!

We know what is true by checking the evidence with our senses. Eve plucked the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and ate it to check if it would surely kill her, only to find it was good for gaining wisdom and for opening eyes and freeing one from slavery. I know if it is true or not that I have a billion pounds in my bank account because I got off my ass and went to the bank to check my account so I know. Basically, we ask and knock and seek by using our senses check so we may know the truth.

We are often initially taught what we should accept as right or proper (morals, to be exact), i.e the 10 commandments, the law where we live, say please and thank you and the such like, but as we grow older, we individually decide what is right and proper for ourselves in many circumstances, and despite the desire of others to impose morality on one.

An example is abortions, where there is no universal Intrinsic agreement.

Xavier5:
And that's the summary of all I've been saying. That's why I made it clear that objectivity and subjectivity both exist.
No one is unclear about the existence of objectivity and subjectivity, Xavier. (Though I'm tempted to ask how subjective thoughts in your head can possible exist for me unless you make them objective for me to see their existence, lol.)

The question is, which is which. As in, what is objective existing verifiable fact, and what is subjective made up in one's head imaginary crap.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:39pm On Oct 07
Xavier5:
Yesterday, I had an interaction with a lady regarding the upcoming election, and in the course of the interaction, she said Xavier if you aren't appealed to Trump and Kamala, but you nevertheless prefer their running mates, Vance and Walz, rather than stay neutral during the election, why don't you support these candidates because of their running mates?

Her statement caused moments of reflection in me which made me come in agreement with her. Yes, I'm not a fan of Trump and Kamala for certain reasons, but their running mates appeal to me for numbers of reasons such as competence, intelligence, character (not perfect), patriotism and passion. So why can't I support a candidate, and by extension, support his or her running mate.

Vance and Walz are good guys... men of intelligence, passion, patriotism, and character (not perfect), but I pick Walz over Vance because of;

* Liberal bias
* The competence, intelligence, passion, character and patriotism of Walz.
* The personality of their principals. Trump has a nasty and an "alpha and omega" character, with him, I don't see J.D Vance having the opportunity to exude his capacity as a Vice President. I see a Mike Pence 2.0. But with Kamala, who is sane and reasonable, I see Walz being given that opportunity to exude his capacity.

So due to this, I've decided to lend my support to the Harris-Walz candidacy. The support for Kamala is the support for Walz, and having Walz at the White House working in partnership with President Kamala Harris, gives me good reasons to believe that America will be in good hands.

Yes, I will not agree with all their views and policies, but hey, there is more to America than whatever views or policies Xavier agrees with or not.



#Xavier

My guy, you're taking this too far.
You can't be a liberal and have this much consternation about whether you will vote Trump or Harris.
As a liberal that should have been an easy choice without all the discussion of running mates.
Liberalism would have forced you to vote Harris based even on the liberal tenets you espoused.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:44pm On Oct 07
IjeBos:


My guy, you're taking this too far.
You can't be a liberal and have this much consternation about whether you will vote Trump or Harris.
As a liberal that should have been an easy choice without all the discussion of running mates.
Liberalism would have forced you to Harris based even on the liberal tenets you espoused.

Another stupid talk. Something a person without agency would say.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Xavier5(m): 2:45pm On Oct 07
IjeBos:


My guy, you're taking this too far.
You can't be a liberal and have this much consternation about whether you will vote Trump or Harris.
As a liberal that should have been an easy choice without all the discussion of running mates.
Liberalism would have forced you to Harris based even on the liberal tenets you espoused.

I'm not a liberal based on your version of liberalism, that I agree. And I made it known, if such is the dominant definition here, I'm independent in this thread, so I don't see the need for your back and forth.

But one thing is certain, Xavier has come across liberals that share his version of liberalism. If anyone here choose not to believe it, that's their head ache, not mine.

As for my choice of candidate, I made my choice, and I gave my reasons. If that doesn't sit well with you, that's your problem, not mine. I'm in no business of pleasing anybody here... so just die the matter.



#Xavier

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:46pm On Oct 07
bemeruca:
FEMA should be replaced

All the money goes into housing illegals while Americans in need get it as a loan.

Anything the democrats touch turns to shit
https://twitter.com/Flylittledoggie/status/1843250923583472116?t=k8bKcUjkh5uwAfMjntQCeA&s=19

Hey Mods, this user is continuously spreading lies and conspiracies about a disaster in the US under the guise of living in the US.
Fema has different streams of Funding for disasters and immigration. Funds for Disaster relief is in a dedicated Fund that can't be used for other things.
There are resources available for those in need.
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor-response

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:49pm On Oct 07
IjeBos:


Hey Mods, this user is continuously spreading lies and conspiracies about a disaster in the US under the guise of living in the US.
Fema has different streams of Funding for disasters and immigration. Funds for Disaster relief is in a dedicated Fund that can't be used for other things.
There are resources available for those in need.
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor-response


You are a sick person. You are reporting me to the mods because I said something about FEMA you don't like? Good lawd. You are damaged beyond damage.

Get a life, you are a loser. Everything said is true.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:56pm On Oct 07
bemeruca:


You are a sick person. You are reporting me to the mods because I said something about FEMA you don't like? Good lawd. You are damaged beyond damage.

Get a life, you are a loser. Everything said is true.


You have posted up here pretending to live in the US, while spreading easily debunked lies and false information about a disaster in the US.
A lot of people are struggling and and your goal seems to be, to make it harder for them to get help in some seeming service to the Republican party.

False claims about FEMA disaster funds and migrants pushed by Trump
There is no evidence that disaster relief funds were used on immigrants in the U.S. illegally. FEMA disaster money comes from dedicated funds that cannot be used for other purposes.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/false-claims-fema-disaster-funds-migrants-pushed-trump-rcna173955
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:56pm On Oct 07
IjeBos:


Lol. I mean to the US.
In this scenario there are people who may need aid who may not get it because of the disinformation Musk is spreading.

Biden should speak out. Not only would it be good governing (making sure people know what resources are available) it would be good politics. Showing Trump to be a liar about something as serious as a disaster.

Trust me, Ijebos, that if it were possible to stop disinformation, I'd ban the Bible and the Qur'an first, not so much because they misinform (they don't), but because people are misinformed by not understanding them. Thankfully, I see the unintended consequence of their enlightening effect so I'm glad both exist.

Biden, or shall I say, liberalism, fights disinformation by educating, and Biden's government is doing what it can against the darkness of magaism trying to drown it out, and going any further would be edging into fascism, I think.

My hope is that more see the light shining in the dark that is trying to overcome it.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:04pm On Oct 07
budaatum:


Trust me, Ijebos, that if it were possible to stop disinformation, I'd ban the Bible and the Qur'an first, not so much because they misinform (they don't), but because people are misinformed by not understanding them. Thankfully, I see the unintended consequence of their enlightening effect so I'm glad both exist.

Biden, or shall I say, liberalism, fights disinformation by educating, and Biden's government is doing what it can against the darkness of magaism trying to drown it out, and going any further would be edging into fascism, I think.

My hope is that more see the light shining in the dark that is trying to overcome it.

Even the UK is doing a better job with it from what I've read.
There has to be a balance. And I think laws can be structured that make spreading disinformation harder without running afoul of the 1st amendment. Maybe it's time to tweak section 230 and allow liability to media platforms that don't make a good faith concerted effort to shut down clear discernable lies that endanger the public good. The key of course would have to be in the language. We don't allow people to go into a crowded people and yell "FIRE" understanding what consequences that causes, we shouldn't allow the same on social media.

And Biden addressing American would be educating them.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:04pm On Oct 07
IjeBos:



You have posted up here pretending to live in the US, while spreading easily debunked lies and false information about a disaster in the US.
A lot of people are struggling and and your goal seems to be, to make it harder for them to get help in some seeming service to the Republican party.




Dude, shut up; I live in the US, and if you can't handle that, kill yourself so you don't have to suffer from that. You cannot refute what I said

Yes, FEMA took funds and used them for migrants. No, the media is not telling you the truth. No I do not need to see articles from Washington Post.

I can listen to KJP.

Please send this to any liberals who is spreading misinformation regarding why FEMA is out of money.

If the money cannot be use for other purpose why are they broke? Which fund did they receive for illegals, was it money given to them for that purpose? Ewu

https://twitter.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1842662782753194234?t=2l3iRlpKXhqvVXsqh_kF_g&s=19

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 3:12pm On Oct 07
budaatum:


I know Ijebos said so, my Lord. And I want to keep apologising to him for seeming to challenge his saying so.

Ahh Ok.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:12pm On Oct 07
The Democrats are claiming FEMA has two different budgets - one for migrant resettlement and one for disaster relief. The truth is Congress never allocated FEMA any money to fund Kamala Harris’s open border policy - they just took the money.
https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1842827869111693452?t=PPq8Ob6rUeqYkhn7K3ZeSg&s=19
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:27pm On Oct 07
bemeruca:


Dude, shut up; I live in the US, and if you can't handle that, kill yourself so you don't have to suffer from that. You cannot refute what I said



If the money cannot be use for other purpose why are they broke? Which fund did they receive for illegals, was it money given to them for that purpose? Ewu

https://twitter.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1842662782753194234?t=2l3iRlpKXhqvVXsqh_kF_g&s=19

Did you move to the US in 2021 as you told one of your friends or 2023 as you told everyone here?
And again, this is where you said you stayed when you landed in the US. Why is this a picture of a place in Canada?

You are using the lie that you are in the US to make your other lies seem more credible.
That is a clear misinformation propagation strategy and it seems you are doing it purposefully.
The mods should take a look.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:29pm On Oct 07
IjeBos:


Even the UK is doing a better job with it from what I've read.
There has to be a balance. And I think laws can be structured that make spreading disinformation harder without running afoul of the 1st amendment. Maybe it's time to tweak section 230 and allow liability to media platforms that don't make a good faith concerted effort to shut down clear discernable lies that endanger the public good. The key of course would have to be in the language. We don't allow people to go into a crowded people and yell "FIRE" understanding what consequences that causes, we shouldn't allow the same on social media.

And Biden addressing American would be educating them.

We have different laws and education in UK that make a dump literally impossible here. We'd have labelled him a crackpot already and no one would listen to him even in a comedy club. But then, we also don't have people putting Bibles in classrooms neither I suppose, nor USA style freedom of speech.

By the way, we do not disallow people going into a crowded people and yell "FIRE", since they don't need our permission or allowing to go into a crowded people and yell "FIRE". What we do do, and only sometimes, is hold people responsible for the consequences of going into a crowded people and yell "FIRE".

In fact, you usually are allowed to do that without fear of arrest, lawsuits, or other legal consequences. Shouting “Fire” in a crowded theater, a metaphor that dates to a 1919 Supreme Court ruling by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., is widely—and wrongly—held to be a far-reaching exception to the First Amendment, which offers broad protection to free expression in the United States.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/shouting-fire-crowded-theater-speech-regulation/621151/
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:31pm On Oct 07
IjeBos:


Did you move to the US in 2021 as you told one of your friends or 2023 as you told everyone here?
And again, this is where you said you stayed when you landed in the US. Why is this a picture of a place in Canada?

You are using the lie that you in the US to make your other lies seem more credible.
That is a clear misinformation propagation strategy and it seems you are doing it purposefully.
The mods should take a look,


Just kill yourself, you are suffering. I only got back from Scotland yesterday. I was there for my daughters bday and a good time to watch my son play in his soccer team.

What are you doing aside from trying to be the champion of Nairaland.

See what a grown man almost the age of 50 is posting. Reporting the the mods likes a 5 year old.
IjeBos:


Hey Mods, this user is continuously spreading lies and conspiracies about a disaster in the US under the guise of living in the US.
Fema has different streams of Funding for disasters and immigration. Funds for Disaster relief is in a dedicated Fund that can't be used for other things.
There are resources available for those in need.
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor-response

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:33pm On Oct 07
bemeruca:


Just kill yourself, you are suffering. I only got back from Scotland yesterday. I was there for my daughters bday and a good time to watch my son play in his soccer team.

What are you doing aside from trying to be the champion of Nairaland.

See what a grown man almost the age of 50 is posting. Reporting the the mods likes a 5 year old.

FEMA and the Biden Harris government are messing up but since you are a liberal you must simp else you are not a liberal
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:38pm On Oct 07
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 5:01pm On Oct 07
bemeruca:


Dude, shut up; I live in the US, and if you can't handle that, kill yourself so you don't have to suffer from that. You cannot refute what I said



If the money cannot be use for other purpose why are they broke? Which fund did they receive for illegals, was it money given to them for that purpose? Ewu

https://twitter.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1842662782753194234?t=2l3iRlpKXhqvVXsqh_kF_g&s=19

FEMA had to create a misinformation page because people like you.
You have spread every one of these rumors here and you aren't even a US citizen nor resident.

Rumor: FEMA only provides loans to disaster survivors.
Fact:
This is false. In most cases, FEMA grants do NOT have to be paid back.

There are some less common situations in which you may have to pay FEMA back if you receive duplicate benefits from insurance or a grant from another source. For example, if you have insurance that covers your temporary housing costs, but you ask FEMA to advance you some money to help you pay for those costs while your insurance is delayed, you will need to pay that money back to FEMA after you receive your insurance settlement.

If you are a homeowner or small business owner, low-interest disaster loans are also available from the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) in a declared major disaster area. These loans may help with home repair or replacement, personal property, vehicles, mitigation, business losses, and working capital for small business and most private nonprofits. Learn more about SBA disaster loans.


Rumor: FEMA does not have enough money to provide disaster assistance for Helene.
Fact:
FEMA has enough money right now for immediate response and recovery needs. If you were affected by Helene, do not hesitate to apply for disaster assistance as there is a variety of help available for different needs.
October 3, 2024

Rumor: Funding for FEMA disaster response was diverted to support international efforts or border related issues.
Fact:
This is false. No money is being diverted from disaster response needs. FEMA’s disaster response efforts and individual assistance is funded through the Disaster Relief Fund, which is a dedicated fund for disaster efforts. Disaster Relief Fund money has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.
October 3, 2024

Rumor: FEMA will only provide $750 to disaster survivors to support their recovery.
Fact:
This is false.

This is a type of assistance that you may be approved for soon after you apply, called Serious Needs Assistance. It is an upfront, flexible payment to help cover essential items like food, water, baby formula, breastfeeding supplies, medication and other emergency supplies. There are other forms of assistance that you may qualify for to receive and Serious Needs Assistance is an initial payment you may receive while FEMA assesses your eligibility for additional funds. As your application continues to be reviewed, you may still receive additional forms of assistance for other needs such as support for temporary housing, personal property and home repair costs. If you have questions about your disaster assistance application and what you qualify for, contact us at 1-800-621-3362 to speak with a FEMA representative in your language.

https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor-response?fbclid=IwY2xjawFwB9dleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHYCyRw0uptPUlSlHj2ndcmJhV0hqer_uDNBFmk33UMgKUEczkEaoVUQu4w_aem_pAbLUHvakbQnNtvDHlqioQ
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 5:01pm On Oct 07
Xavier5:


So let it be... amen 🙏😎😁


#Xavier




That's true bro. Not a funny matter.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 5:04pm On Oct 07
bemeruca:


Dude, shut up; I live in the US, and if you can't handle that, kill yourself so you don't have to suffer from that. You cannot refute what I said



If the money cannot be use for other purpose why are they broke? Which fund did they receive for illegals, was it money given to them for that purpose? Ewu

https://twitter.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1842662782753194234?t=2l3iRlpKXhqvVXsqh_kF_g&s=19

This pussy says he lives in the US
Odikwa risky 😂🤭

Talk another lie now Mr Xenophobic asylum seeker squatting somewhere in Saskatchewan
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 5:05pm On Oct 07
bemeruca:


Just kill yourself, you are suffering. I only got back from Scotland yesterday. I was there for my daughters bday and a good time to watch my son play in his soccer team.

What does Scotland have to do with pretending you live in the US or posting pictures of Canada and pretending it was the US?
It's a stupid person's way of deflecting the fact that you are lying about living in the US and posting misinformation and foreign propaganda.
Look over there.

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