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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:53am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


I know bro, that's why I said no reasonable state goverment should be subsidizing Hajj/Sponsoring Hajj at this point. States like Gombe, Bauchi, Kebbi, etc have no business sponsoring anybody to Hajj because like majority of the states in Nigeria they are struggling economically and borrowing to run government affairs. They should shed the weight of sponsoring Hajj

nihilist already explained it

The only reason these subsidies exist in the first place is to go someway towards pacifying the masses.

and this works even better in places that run 'Islam is a way of life' as a mantra
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:55am On Oct 09
izzou:


Trying to charter a Sienna to attend a burial in Abia state; 7 passengers

The cheapest we got was 500k...To and Fro

We still dey scratch head to raise the money, na him price of fuel change this morning.

Nigeria has never had it this bad.

Omo! shocked

500k to charter a Sienna? How much Sienna drivers go dey deliver weekly?

I think the price is on the high side, but then when one thinks of PMS being sold for over 1k per liter u start think the driver's gain might not actually be much sef.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:55am On Oct 09
Exactly
Blueraydick wan create problem
GloriousGbola:


nihilist already explained it



and this works even better in places that run 'Islam is a way of life' as a mantra
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:57am On Oct 09
izzou:


Trying to charter a Sienna to attend a burial in Abia state; 7 passengers

The cheapest we got was 500k...To and Fro

We still dey scratch head to raise the money, na him price of fuel change this morning.

Nigeria has never had it this bad.
E lo fokan baale
Ilera mbo
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 9:57am On Oct 09
Itsrm:


Thank God o. As if I knew, bought significant amount this morning at great cost to my pocket. At least, I'll enjoy it a little before having to buy again.
I am seriously considering cng o...... it isn't funny anymore...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:57am On Oct 09
OasisX:


.....I have no issues with IDF killing Hamas/Hezbollah or Vice Versa bruh, my issue is, they all must leave Civilians out of it.

Civilians will always be part of the resistance or freedom fighters. whether they intend to be or not.

even more so in asymmetrical warfare

civilians supported the french resistance in ww2 - civilians supported the taliban in afghanistan

collateral damage is inevitable and everyone knows what they are signing up for
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 9:58am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


The issue is most people going for pilgrimage are not broke in any way. At least the people in my family who have been to Hajj are either sponsored by a wealthy relative or those who are living comfortably well. They are people whom Yorubas will say "won ni ajeseku". Dem don chop and e still remain for ground.

So the subsidy is not really going to the masses like that. Cheap education and cheap petrol are actually things that will pacify the masses jare.

As regards leaving the UK, most of the people I know whom relocated to the UK are not finding things easy.

Is it brexit that 4cked the UK up or there's something else ? A friend of mine had to run commot UK to Ireland, he claimed things are a little bit better over there even tho the Euro is not as powerful as the Sterling.

Completely understand your point but subsidy recipients don't all have to be on tbe same level - that's why I mentioned school, fuel etc in addition to Hajj and Jerusalem pilgrimage.

The government doesn't have enough to share to anybody again even the well connected like you mentioned, and that's a serious problem.

Omo with regards to UK, I don't even know where to start..I work as a contractor offering consultancy services to clients but the UK implemented some tax legislation 2 years potential penalising clients if their contractors don't declare taxes appropriately.

As a result a lot of the work that I used to get has now gone offshore, whilst my tax liability has gone through the roof (My business paid over £40k in taxes last year alone, excluding personal income tax), and the prime minister is rumoured to be looking to increase taxes even further up to a rumoured 45%

I ran one small contract on the side this year in a personal capacity rather than through my business and the tax legislation I spoke about led to a situation where my take home after tax and minimum pension contributions was 48%.

Talk about monkey dey work, baboon dey chop. Omo UK as a country is finished for now. It might recover later down the line, but I won't advise anyone to Japa here anytime soon if you want to do more than survive. If you want to earn 25-40k you can turn up - but the moment you decide you want more from life, this country will smack you in the face and dropkick you in the balls.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:59am On Oct 09
Itsrm:


Thank God o. As if I knew, bought significant amount this morning at great cost to my pocket. At least, I'll enjoy it a little before having to buy again.
Another gallon d'or contestant
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 9:59am On Oct 09
izzou:


Trying to charter a Sienna to attend a burial in Abia state; 7 passengers

The cheapest we got was 500k...To and Fro

We still dey scratch head to raise the money, na him price of fuel change this morning.

Nigeria has never had it this bad.
shocked shocked
Within this same Nigeria with such huge amount?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:59am On Oct 09
iamoyindamola:

You are looking for trouble grin grin grin
Remember the woman that was fighting against mass wedding what later happened

It just doesn't make sense to me sha. I mean why sponsor a broke man to pilgrimage, he comes back as an Alhaji but a broke Alhaji.

I mean all my life I've seen middle class people going to hajj off their own pocket. I've also seen wealthy individuals sponsoring members of their family to Hajj; but before thinking of sponsoring them to Hajj they already set up businesses for them like bakery, transportation business etc. That makes more sense to me.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:00am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


Omo! shocked

500k to charter a Sienna? How much Sienna drivers go dey deliver weekly?

I think the price is on the high side, but then when one thinks of PMS being sold for over 1k per liter u start think the driver's gain might not actually be much sef.

Might use up to 200 litres through the entire period

That's 200k.

You go dey share 200 naira from Sagamu to the village.

Pay for his time for one day, and if you remove his weekly payment, there's not much left.

We wanted to charter a Coaster bus..The bill was 1.2 million

Already, Lagos to Umuahia is 36k.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:01am On Oct 09
Shegzdave:

shocked shocked
Within this same Nigeria with such huge amount?

This Nigeria.

Lagos to Benin (4 hours journey) was 19k..Iyare motors

I dey pay am, still dey cry internally
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 10:02am On Oct 09
izzou:


So na the final price be this?

I believe so. Assuming the exchange rate remains stable.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:03am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


It just doesn't make sense to me sha. I mean why sponsor a broke man to pilgrimage, he comes back as an Alhaji but a broke Alhaji.

I mean all my life I've seen middle class people going to hajj off their own pocket. I've also seen wealthy individuals sponsoring members of their family to Hajj; but before thinking of sponsoring them to Hajj they already set up businesses for them like bakery, transportation business etc. That makes more sense to me.

that is because you a an empty headed materialistic kaffir who is concerned with the baubles of the meaningless life of this world, rather than an eternity in al jannah. angry

you have failed the test - into the fire with you!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:04am On Oct 09
Itsrm:


I believe so. Assuming the exchange rate remains stable.


wrong.

if we have a war in the middle east, price of oil will go up. so will our income, but so will the price of petrol
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 10:04am On Oct 09
Shegzdave:

shocked shocked
Within this same Nigeria with such huge amount?
Baba...500k use to be huge.......but not now..


U can only get 4 bag of rice with that amount
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:05am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


It just doesn't make sense to me sha. I mean why sponsor a broke man to pilgrimage, he comes back as an Alhaji but a broke Alhaji.

I mean all my life I've seen middle class people going to hajj off their own pocket. I've also seen wealthy individuals sponsoring members of their family to Hajj; but before thinking of sponsoring them to Hajj they already set up businesses for them like bakery, transportation business etc. That makes more sense to me.
You are right, but that is in the west here
Even those who follow the government will drop almost half of the fee unlike north
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 10:05am On Oct 09
Segedinho:

I am seriously considering cng o...... it isn't funny anymore...




I have said it severally that I will be the first to convert to CNG once I have a place I can buy it here in PH. Infact, I don't mind driving the car to Benin or Lagos to do the conversion.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:06am On Oct 09
Segedinho:

I am seriously considering cng o...... it isn't funny anymore...




my generators have dual carburator - with these figures, using lpg is a no brainer - though lpg has also been climbing for reasons no one can pin point
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 10:07am On Oct 09
iamoyindamola:

Another gallon d'or contestant

Nah, that title is exclusively reserved for GloriousGbola
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 10:08am On Oct 09
GloriousGbola:


wrong.

if we have a war in the middle east, price of oil will go up. so will our income, but so will the price of petrol

That's true. Totally forgot the price of crude is also a major variable.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 10:08am On Oct 09
GloriousGbola:


my generators have dual carburator - with these figures, using lpg is a no brainer - though lpg has also been climbing for reasons no one can pin point

How does this work? Does the plant switch automatically or maybe manually depending on the fuel source?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:08am On Oct 09
nihilistjnr:


This is actually a harbinger of doom in my opinion. The only reason these subsidies exist in the first place is to go someway towards pacifying the masses.

If the government was broken but you were at least seeing cheap petrol, cheap school fees and subsidised Hajj, at least you go dey hold your side.

When the government is broken and you're seeing nothing....

We dey experience something similar for this side, and since the beginning of the year I've been seriously exploring opportunities to leave the UK for good. It's Japa time grin
People going for pilgrimage are hardly the masses, it's a nice move. Religion na very personal matter.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 10:09am On Oct 09
izzou:


This Nigeria.

Lagos to Benin (4 hours journey) was 19k..Iyare motors

I dey pay am, still dey cry internally
The situation of the country continues to decline everyday.
A friend of mine that usually travels from Ekiti to porthacourt (business)for 15k-18k before subsidy was removed, now that they’ve removed it, I just Dey pity the guy

The country is gone already💔
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:11am On Oct 09
GloriousGbola:


islam counts your sins against your good deeds. in the end it is the tally of your sins against your good deeds that determines if you enter hell or al jannah. if you do a pilgrimage and it is accepted, your slate is wiped clean. so from a purely religious standpoint, it is subsidized salvation
So doing the pilgrimage is guaranteed jannah, or if you sin post pilgrimage it counts?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:11am On Oct 09
Shegzdave:

The situation of the country continues to decline everyday.
A friend of mine that usually travels from Ekiti to porthacourt (business)for 15k-18k before subsidy was removed, now that they’ve removed it, I just Dey pity the guy

The country is gone already💔

Nigeria is never recovering from this anytime soon.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 10:12am On Oct 09
Segedinho:

Baba...500k use to be huge.......but not now..


U can only get 4 bag of rice with that amount
I know boss, I’m just trying to understand how the situation of the country is declining at a very fast rate.

NNPC sef start their own again, just increased everything
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:12am On Oct 09
nihilistjnr:


Completely understand your point but subsidy recipients don't all have to be on tbe same level - that's why I mentioned school, fuel etc in addition to Hajj and Jerusalem pilgrimage.

The government doesn't have enough to share to anybody again even the well connected like you mentioned, and that's a serious problem.

Omo with regards to UK, I don't even know where to start..I work as a contractor offering consultancy services to clients but the UK implemented some tax legislation 2 years potential penalising clients if their contractors don't declare taxes appropriately.

As a result a lot of the work that I used to get has now gone offshore, whilst my tax liability has gone through the roof (My business paid over £40k in taxes last year alone, excluding personal income tax), and the prime minister is rumoured to be looking to increase taxes even further up to a rumoured 45%

I ran one small contract on the side this year in a personal capacity rather than through my business and the tax legislation I spoke about led to a situation where my take home after tax and minimum pension contributions was 48%.

Talk about monkey dey work, baboon dey chop. Omo UK as a country is finished for now. It might recover later down the line, but I won't advise anyone to Japa here anytime soon if you want to do more than survive. If you want to earn 25-40k you can turn up - but the moment you decide you want more from life, this country will smack you in the face and dropkick you in the balls.

Omo! Where person wan come japa to if it's this tough already in the UK?

I spoke with a relative in the US over the weekend and he was telling me of how things are tough in Canada too at the moment. He shared the story of a family he's currently following up with in Canada.

The wife was supposed to study and work in Canada so she moved with 3 kids while the husband remained here in naija. He was supposed to join them after they had fully settled over there. Due to one reason or the other, the woman entered CA one week later than resumption date so the school said she couldn't register this September and will have to wait till January.

The issue now is she has been unable to get any job with 3 kids. One of the 3 kids knows how to braid hair so the girl is the one practically sustaining the family of four with the meagre income from the braiding of hairs she does. The father who is in Nigeria is a businessman and has been sending naira to them but his business is on the brink of collapse because the money he's sending is putting a hole in his business account. The current state of naija economy is not helping matters.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:13am On Oct 09
nihilistjnr:


How does this work? Does the plant switch automatically or maybe manually depending on the fuel source?


Basically you close the valve of your petrol tank or the valve of your gas cylinder. And your're good to go

If starting on lpg after running on petrol it will vibrate for 30 seconds or so and then run normally.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 10:14am On Oct 09
Shegzdave:

shocked shocked
Within this same Nigeria with such huge amount?

Lool...Lagos to Benin,that is here ooo...I sponsored a 14 seater bus and ambulance for a burial ceremony and the bill was returning 300k and 200k,this was July ending before the fuel hike to 1k, the drivers were complaining bitterly about bad roads plus fuel,I just dey wonder the price now.....Na why i personally wan fight obaseki and Apc
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:14am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


Omo! shocked

500k to charter a Sienna? How much Sienna drivers go dey deliver weekly?

I think the price is on the high side, but then when one thinks of PMS being sold for over 1k per liter u start think the driver's gain might not actually be much sef.
You go probably need full tank to run Lagos to East, deduct full tank money to and fro, roja and driver personal costs, the money wey dey on top fit no plenty like dat.

But then, full tank for 500K sounds crazy.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 10:14am On Oct 09
izzou:


Nigeria is never recovering from this anytime soon.
Sad truth, very pathetic

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