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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 11:34am On Oct 11
Omooloriredade:


Hopefully you understood my post.

Now, you mind showing me the fair share of taxes of your capital gains have been paying all along? cheesy You don't have to show the value the categories will do. wink

Sample below:

Is VAT on commission not a tax? Capital gains realized from selling stocks are subject to a flat 10% tax paid to the FIRS. So, have you been remitting the 10% capital gains tax to the FIRS? Please don't tell me you are a criminal. grin grin shocked shocked
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 11:35am On Oct 11
Omooloriredade:


Hopefully you understood my post.

Now, you mind showing me the fair share of taxes of your capital gains have been paying all along? cheesy You don't have to show the value the categories will do. wink

Sample below:

Is it not common knowledge that we don't pay tax of stock sale and purchase? But, only on dividend?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 11:38am On Oct 11
GeeKudi:


Is it not common knowledge that we don't pay tax of stock sale and purchase? But, only on dividend?

Another criminal!!! cheesy shocked
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 11:38am On Oct 11
ositadima1:


Is VAT on commission not a tax? Capital gains realized from selling stocks are subject to a flat 10% tax paid to the FIRS. So, have you been remitting the 10% capital gains tax to the FIRS? Please don't tell me you are a criminal. grin grin shocked shocked




You mean you have been paying capital gain tax of 10% to FIRS??

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Omooloriredade: 11:40am On Oct 11
ositadima1:


Is VAT on commission not a tax? Capital gains realized from selling stocks are subject to a flat 10% tax paid to the FIRS. So, have you been remitting the 10% capital gains tax to the FIRS? Please don't tell me you are a criminal. grin grin shocked shocked




Your mantra here is "facts only". You mind showing me the 10% tax from your capital gains you have been paying to the FIRS? If you can't seem to find proof, I'll understand.

VAT on commission is not tax paid by the investor but by your broker. Your broker is paying the govt tax on the commission he received from your trade.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 11:41am On Oct 11
ositadima1:


Is VAT on commission not a tax? Capital gains realized from selling stocks are subject to a flat 10% tax paid to the FIRS. So, have you been remitting the 10% capital gains tax to the FIRS? Please don't tell me you are a criminal. grin grin shocked shocked




What we pay is VAT on commission, not tax on capital gain from stock sale. Unless, they are just going to introduce it now, you are not required to pay tax on capital gain as an investor dealing in stock on the NSE.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 11:41am On Oct 11
pluto09:


You mean you have been paying capital gain tax of 10% to FIRS??

ositadima1:


You weren't paying taxes before? For every share of stock I buy or sell, I pay tax on it. Even dividends are subject to a roughly 10% tax. It seems like you've been enjoying tax-free benefits alone all along. Which broker do you use? shocked shocked shocked

grin grin shocked
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 11:43am On Oct 11
ositadima1:


Another criminal!!! cheesy shocked

You may need to check the info available to you very well. The stock market is exempted from paying tax on capital gain by investors.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Omooloriredade: 11:44am On Oct 11
GeeKudi:


Is it not common knowledge that we don't pay tax of stock sale and purchase? But, only on dividend?

It is but that is about to change if the bill passes which I expect it will.

BAT is trying to introduce tax reforms like he did in Lagos. Since he came into power, how many bank charges (taxes) have been muted so far already? cheesy
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 11:48am On Oct 11
Omooloriredade:


Your mantra here is "facts only". You mind showing me the 10% tax from your capital gains you have been paying to the FIRS? If you can't seem to find proof, I'll understand.

VAT on commission is not tax paid by the investor but by your broker. Your broker is paying the govt tax on the commission he received from your trade.

I don't need to disclose my personal information to substantiate a factual discussion. I can simply provide evidence that the 10% FIRS tax has been in place for a long time.

As for the VAT on commission, it's deducted directly from my account. I'm not familiar with how your broker handles it, though. cheesy cheesy grin shocked shocked
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 11:48am On Oct 11
Omooloriredade:


It is but that is about to change if the bill passes which I expect it will.

BAT is trying to introduce tax reforms like he did in Lagos. Since he came into power, how many bank charges (taxes) have been muted so far already? cheesy

Yes. I am aware of this but at the moment, gains from stock trading on the NSE is exempted from income tax. Osita doesn't seem to know.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 11:51am On Oct 11
ositadima1:


I don't need to disclose my personal information to substantiate a factual discussion. I can simply provide evidence that the 10% FIRS tax has been in place for a long time.

As for the VAT on commission, it's deducted directly from my account. I'm not familiar with how your broker handles it, though. cheesy cheesy grin shocked shocked


From AI

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Sunrisepebble: 11:52am On Oct 11
Trading will stop today but hearing Thursday is likely listing date
KarlTom:
Received this mail today at 04:12 hrs...
Does this mean it is officially confirmed?

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 11:53am On Oct 11
GeeKudi:


Yes. I am aware of this but at the moment, gains from stock trading on the NSE is exempted from income tax. Osita doesn't seem to know.

Please, be informed, you are required to pay a 10% tax to the FIRS on all capital gains, including those from the sale of property or stocks. Even the sale of your old car join. shocked shocked shocked
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Omooloriredade: 11:54am On Oct 11
ositadima1:


I don't need to disclose my personal information to substantiate a factual discussion. I can simply provide evidence that the 10% FIRS tax has been in place for a long time.

As for the VAT on commission, it's deducted directly from my account. I'm not familiar with how your broker handles it, though. cheesy cheesy grin shocked shocked


Fair enough! However, 10% FIRS law is not sufficient evidence to disprove the fact that Nigerians have been getting away with paying their fair share of taxes on capital gains in the stock market which among others is what BAT is seeking to address. It's been a long time coming.

This is the reason for the reform. It won't be 10% flat rate and the new regime will ensure no one can escape it.

https://assets.kpmg.com/content/dam/kpmg/ng/pdf/clarifications-on-the-provisions-of-capital-gains-tax-act.pdf

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 11:56am On Oct 11
ositadima1:


Please, be informed, you are required to pay a 10% tax to the FIRS on all capital gains, including those from the sale of property or stocks. Even the sale of your old car join. shocked shocked shocked

NOT TRUE
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 11:56am On Oct 11
GeeKudi:


From AI

AI is prone to hallucination, Please provide a screenshot of the Capital Gains Tax Act. shocked
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Omooloriredade: 11:57am On Oct 11
ositadima1:


Please, be informed, you are required to pay a 10% tax to the FIRS on all capital gains, including those from the sale of property or stocks. Even the sale of your old car join. shocked shocked shocked

You see the loophole?

Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 11:57am On Oct 11
Sunrisepebble:
Trading will stop today but hearing Thursday is likely listing date

No longer Monday? Meaning we have more days to raise funds? grin grin grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 11:59am On Oct 11
Omooloriredade:


Fair enough! However, 10% FIRS law is not sufficient evidence to disprove the fact that Nigerians have been getting away with paying their fair share of taxes on capital gains in the stock market which among others is what BAT is seeking to address. It's been a long time coming.

This is the reason for the reform. It won't be 10% flat rate and the new regime will ensure no one can escape it.

https://assets.kpmg.com/content/dam/kpmg/ng/pdf/clarifications-on-the-provisions-of-capital-gains-tax-act.pdf

Alright.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 12:00pm On Oct 11
Omooloriredade:


Your mantra here is "facts only". You mind showing me the 10% tax from your capital gains you have been paying to the FIRS? If you can't seem to find proof, I'll understand.

VAT on commission is not tax paid by the investor but by your broker. Your broker is paying the govt tax on the commission he received from your trade.


We are charged VAT on the commission.

I got a loan from Orange One Finance on Wednesday, I paid management and processing fees which was 2% of the loan, I also paid VAT on the management and processing fees
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 12:01pm On Oct 11
As a shareholder you are part of owner of the business
1.You collect me 30% as cooperate tax plus,vat, educational tax etc
2.When my business makes profits and pay me dividend. You collect 10% WHT
3.When I make gain as appreciation for my business. You want to collect another 10%

Is this not like 50%.And at the end thr is no subsidy in anything. I provide my water,power via generator.state and local government will still collect from different way.I will still pay income tax to state government.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 12:06pm On Oct 11
Omooloriredade:


You see the loophole?


Anyway, there will always be loopholes in tax laws. Robert Kiyosaki, author of 'Rich Dad Poor Dad,' has written a whole book on legal tax evasion strategies in the US. shocked shocked

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Shalom428: 12:06pm On Oct 11
Taxing capital gain on a market that is already fragile will only lead to the collapse of the market. Investors will leave in drones and take their money elsewhere.

Q2 capital importation is nothing to write home about , we are canvassing for investors to come, yet we want to introduce stringent policies that will chase them away.

It is well
emmanuelewumi:



We are charged VAT on the commission.

I got a loan from Orange One Finance on Wednesday, I paid management and processing fees which was 2% of the loan, I also paid VAT on the management and processing fees
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 12:08pm On Oct 11
Streetinvestor2:
As a shareholder you are part of owner of the business
1.You collect me 30% as cooperate tax plus,vat, educational tax etc
2.When my business makes profits and pay me dividend. You collect 10% WHT
3.When I make gain as appreciation for my business. You want to collect another 10%

Is this not like 50%.And at the end thr is no subsidy in anything. I provide my water,power via generator.state and local government will still collect from different way.I will still pay income tax to state government.

The matter chocke oo.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Omooloriredade: 12:08pm On Oct 11
GeeKudi:


NOT TRUE

Actually, because a lot of Nigerians have taxes remitted to the government from their salaries, they are not too familiar with their tax obligations.

The govt also can't be bothered chasing individuals for their fair share of taxes of income because of lack of sufficient data. The new bill will be addressing this loophole. You cash out from an investment, the NGX, CSCS, banks etc will share data amongst themselves and disclose this to the tax office. At the end of the financial year, the tax office will expect you to declare your ALL your income AND Capital gains and they will apply the correct tax rate.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 12:12pm On Oct 11
Omooloriredade:


Actually, because a lot of Nigerians have taxes remitted to the government from their salaries, they are not too familiar with their tax obligations.

The govt also can't be bothered chasing individuals for their fair share of taxes of income because of lack of sufficient data. The new bill will be addressing this loophole. You cash out from an investment, the NGX, CSCS, banks etc will share data amongst themselves and disclose this to the tax office. At the end of the financial year, the tax office will expect you to declare your ALL your income AND Capital gains and they will apply the correct tax rate.


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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 12:13pm On Oct 11
Shalom428:
Taxing capital gain on a market that is already fragile will only lead to the collapse of the market. Investors will leave in drones and take their money elsewhere.

Q2 capital importation is nothing to write home about , we are canvassing for investors to come, yet we want to introduce stringent policies that will chase them away.

It is well

I've observed that many of these policies are being proposed or implemented independently by different ministries, rather than being coordinated centrally. This lack of cohesion is concerning sha. Too much chaos. sad

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 12:16pm On Oct 11
Omooloriredade:


Actually, because a lot of Nigerians have taxes remitted to the government from their salaries, they are not too familiar with their tax obligations.

The govt also can't be bothered chasing individuals for their fair share of taxes of income because of lack of sufficient data. The new bill will be addressing this loophole. You cash out from an investment, the NGX, CSCS, banks etc will share data amongst themselves and disclose this to the tax office. At the end of the financial year, the tax office will expect you to declare your ALL your income AND Capital gains and they will apply the correct tax rate.


I receive email every year to declare my income and pat tax on taxable incomes earned in my second home. I said taxable income because not all incomes are taxable. As far as Nigeria is concerned, capital gains on the nse is not taxable.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 12:36pm On Oct 11
GeeKudi:


I receive email every year to declare my income and pat tax on taxable incomes earned in my second home. I said taxable income because not all incomes are taxable. As far as Nigeria is concerned, capital gains on the nse is not taxable.

Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 12:38pm On Oct 11
Shalom428:
Taxing capital gain on a market that is already fragile will only lead to the collapse of the market. Investors will leave in drones and take their money elsewhere.

Q2 capital importation is nothing to write home about , we are canvassing for investors to come, yet we want to introduce stringent policies that will chase them away.

It is well


Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

It will affect JIjoists not investors,

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Bbbwings: 12:41pm On Oct 11
Wetin dey sup for Access today
Dem don do 1billion.

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