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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 6:18am |
FoolishBoy419: I do and I know those settling for ₦30k jobs are those who never prepared for life after the four walls of the so called University they went to. 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Cancri: 6:19am |
Appleyard:who told you? Africa is way bigger than Russia and Europe combined. |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 6:21am |
FoolishBoy419: Read na. I said entry level make a minimum of ₦350k within Nigeria Those that work remotely make minimum of $1000 in that occupation. What gave rise to this discussion? Thinking anyone is doing a cyber security professional a favor by offering $50 a month for such job is the highest joke known to man. |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 6:33am |
Procashtips: I think you're getting the whole thing mixed up. The pay at $50 is low, and we have already alluded to that. But did you noticed that some are already jumping at the offer? Why? Because it's still better than what some businesses in Nigeria pays monthly. So far, you're the only one that has directly jumped on the offer, and your reasons for that are valid. Citing my experience back in 2011 was just an example, and not a comparison to the status of Cyber Security. Brother, believe it, there are thousands of graduates in Nigeria with excellent qualifications that are working and getting paid peanuts. The private school issue was just one part of the example, and is not like all private schools does the same thing. The fact remains that his offer is low. 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkir: 6:38am |
Bro I understand you but cybersecurity is different to those profession, even banks that pays peanuts pay cybersecurity professionals heavy money. Just imagine putting your whole network-security in the hands of cybersecurity professionals and paying them peanut they can wipe out everything including your money. Cybersecurity It's not a joke Appleyard: 3 Likes |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 7:00am |
Procashtips: What do you expect people to do when there are no jobs out there to accommodate their qualifications? Maybe you should rephrase your questions to why should a BSc holder be riding Okada balance and take? Why should someone that graduated from the university been carrying blocks or clearing bushes for people just to survive? At the end of the day, the answer is the same; the Nigerian labour market is a destiny killer. Where there are no jobs to accommodate thousands of qualified graduates yearly, majority of the few ones available would only pay way below expectations. Some graduates settled for the poor pay because it's not everyone that is jobless that has the strength and physic to carry blocks and earn 5k daily. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 7:13am |
Alamkir: That is a fact. |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 7:38am |
Procashtips: You used two opposing words (expert and entry level) so I had to go with one. The guy said he was looking for low-skilled employees and favor or not, you can see people bidding for the job here already. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 7:46am |
Procashtips: The same could apply to the people seeking the job here. They learned the skills but they're not willing to invest time into finding fair jobs or maybe, like I've said, they want to use this opportunity to hone their skills. I totally get where you're coming from but even if he's offering to pay $1 per month, it's up to the applicants to decide whether the money is worth their services or not. |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 7:49am |
when you are done with All this unnecessary arguments lemme know, so we can bring the update 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 8:00am |
Appleyard: The problem of this country is simply demand and supply. Even the jobs that we consider lucrative in Nigeria actually pay low by international standards. This is why just as Ghost left EU to look for employees here, mega western companies prefer to outsource millions of jobs to developing countries. Nobody said he's doing anyone a favor. 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 8:02am |
Vic2023: Apologies. Things like this are bound to happen from time to time. Let it rain please! 4 Likes |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 8:05am |
Cancri: That's just an exaggeration. I mean, Russia could as well be its own continent. |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:08am |
FoolishBoy419: You can't be a Cyber security professional and collect $50 in a month, it's not possible bro, whoever is showing interest actually have no clue what the job entails. |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 8:10am |
FoolishBoy419: Exactly. Plus we have very poor labour laws here. |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:12am |
FoolishBoy419: There's nothing like low-skilled employees once you're a qualified cyber security professional. It's a professional job. How can low skill be associated with a professional job? Entry level doesn't mean low-skilled, it means fresh on the job, recently certified candidates. They're still called experts. An ICAN certified accountant is an expert with such a professional certification, experience is now what defines their pay if you'd be paid entry level pay or experienced level pay. Hence I quoted the entry level salary (minimum) to be ₦350k You got it now? Ask those truly bidding for the job if you are qualified or even understand what the job entails. I have tried recruiting people on NL before and I discovered that majority applied for what they have no clue of. It cost nothing to show interest in a post even if you don't have 0.5% requirements 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:14am |
FoolishBoy419: And it's also needed to expand the minds of some of our readers so they stop feeding on crumbs |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:16am |
Alamkir: Finally, someone that actually have knowledge of what the profession is all about. Thank you |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:18am |
Appleyard: Bro, I put it to you that none of those that showed interest are truly qualified cyber security professionals. I surely know jobs are scarce but not a specialised job like this. 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 8:20am |
Appleyard: And I put it to you that none of those that showed interest have an idea what they're talking about. NONE! You can't spend up to ₦2m to acquire a certificate just to work $50 a month when that same profession pays $50/hr (To some) Na joke bro. 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by NightCrawler1: 8:58am |
Procashtips: I mostly don't comment here, only read the updates. I give kudos to all the moderators on this page. Now to the issue on ground. Anyone applying like myself, it's more like a side hustle. At least you will have an experience, because his willing to teach you on day to day task. Everyone is right considering the situation in the country. Graduates are been paid peanut because they have no choice else they will sit at home. 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 9:02am |
Procashtips: People spend more than 10 million studying abroad and come back to do shitty jobs here. It's either you live outside Nigeria or you exclusively live among the upper class. |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 9:07am |
Procashtips: This is what the employer himself posted: Ghostagain: Let those that are okay with the amount bid for the job and let the employer decide whether they're qualified or not. Peace |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jovi10: 9:11am |
Nawa make una allow us see war updates na , you guys can create a new thread for all this business talk abeg. 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 9:11am |
Procashtips: Fair point. Let's not derail anymore please. 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 9:31am |
FoolishBoy419: No issue bro 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 9:32am |
FoolishBoy419: And I asked him what they intend doing for $50 and je said Cyber security and some other duties |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 9:33am |
FoolishBoy419: You know this aint true bro |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 9:34am |
NightCrawler1: Ok. Are you a certified cyber security professional? The above job can never be your side hustle, na big man job |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by NightCrawler1: 9:53am |
Procashtips: Don't misquote me. I am not, I said his willing to teach anyone who is not in that field, that is without experience. His not saying he wants to employ one with experience in cyber security 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Broveens42(m): 9:56am |
Kingsnairaland: Where did I abuse you? Own up your delusional gibberish and stop blaming the poor Anglo |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by nairaland94(m): 10:16am |
Procashtips:He said he wants to recruit low skilled workers, cyber security experts are not low skilled workers. I think what he's offering is for other support/office workers and not the cyber security experts. |
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