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Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by bigdammyj: 8:00pm On Dec 19 |
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Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by lexy2014: 8:01pm On Dec 19 |
Summary: The tipping point came when the crowd surged towards the distribution points for food and gifts. Witnesses described a scene of desperation as parents and children pushed forward, fearing they would leave empty-handed. Hunger, free food...recipe for disaster. this was better managed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYltMapDyIo |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Lanre1st(m): 8:01pm On Dec 19 |
Softmirror: When your father were still Gardner 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Zionmdde: 8:01pm On Dec 19 |
Angelfrost:So what safety measures could they have taken? Any safety measure that didn't involve stopping those children from leaving their homes "will fail" no matter what. Unless you expected them to rent the stadium. Of which tragedies were also bound to happen Perhaps the best safety measure in the hierarchy of control was "AVOIDANCE". meaning keep your gifts and palliative to yourself 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Rebelutionary: 8:01pm On Dec 19 |
Zionmdde:Can you please stop deflecting and face the issue that confronts us? How you forget so soon that something similar happened and not just in one state but multiple states where job seekers were killed in a stampedes when they went for immigration exams? Mr. when you organize even if it is a naming ceremony and you INVITE people to come, you take on the responsibility of their safety and security especially in this case where it is one for children! This didn't happen in a market but at a designated venue by the organisers who failed in the place of planning, so your line about government has no grounds! The issue is about PLANNING and not about poverty as a stampede could have happened in the recent Experience Music Concert. Let's ALL learn the lessons and let the authorities do their bid to forestall future occurrence of such 3 Likes |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Absuchat(m): 8:02pm On Dec 19 |
Softmirror:What he said it's true Any Yoruba state that begins with letter "O" That's "Ori e" (head)....fear them. Skull lovers |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by descarado: 8:02pm On Dec 19 |
This is not an excuse to justify what happened. |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Fiscus105(m): 8:03pm On Dec 19 |
Zionmdde: They still need to be blamed more, for not put adequate measures to forestall, stamped and others unforseen occurrence. |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by RenaissanceGuy: 8:04pm On Dec 19 |
Zionmdde:When the FG organised a recruitment exercise and tens of people died due to stampede, was the minister not tried in court for negligence and it's because Nigeria's judiciary is a failure that he did not later go to jail. It's because we're so used to anyhowness here in Nigeria that you think the organizers shouldn't be blamed. If people have previously been jailed in the past for this kind of negligence leading to stampede, the organizers would have hired security to prevent this. 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Zionmdde: 8:07pm On Dec 19 |
Rebelutionary:Planning? For children for all kinds of background? Mr planner give me a practical plan that could have prevented that situation. If not going to individual homes to distribute the food (a plan that may even turn chaos when people get to know what's happening) So who and who are in prison because of immigration stampede which involved a crowd immigration were supposed to have their population count Anything giving out free food in this country, especially when the giveaway is scheduled and publicized will turn chaotic 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Absuchat(m): 8:07pm On Dec 19 |
LegendHero: You and your A.I are birds of the same feather. Imagine asking a rhetorical question that even a mentally ill person will easily give you the accurate answer. To highlight how dumb your A.I is, he gave you Okija as a tribe E sure me say u go dey use this same A.I dey write jamb...reason why jamb already knows your full details as a regular customer 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Fiscus105(m): 8:07pm On Dec 19 |
Zionmdde: You people must say nonsense to proof that black is white. Were they blind wen they see incoming crowd were more than expected? Did they involve police or civil defence for assistance? What stop them, to send back the remaining children that came after the number expected have reached. Common sense is supposed to tell you that, anything that is free would be bombarded by poor people, not even event that also broadcast. 2 Likes |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Angelfrost(m): 8:08pm On Dec 19 |
Zionmdde: Nope....! 1. Using a stadium with strict security mounted to allow in specific numbers at a time, with alternate entries and exits. 2. Another option would be house to house sharing of the gifts. 3. A third option would be segmented sharing or distributing at local government and street level. 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by johannu(m): 8:08pm On Dec 19 |
This is just one incident. Most of the things we do in this country most times we don't put much thought. It would seem we don't have sense. This incident reminds me of the 20 or so people that died at the National Stadium Abuja during the evil Abba Moro Immigration recruitment years ago. |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Zionmdde: 8:11pm On Dec 19 |
RenaissanceGuy:Immigration had the data of the number of people they invited and they were dealing with adults. Now make the comparison again I was waiting for you to mention security. Where the security will position would have been a bottleneck, and disaster was still bound to happen, maybe not inside the venue but outside As long as the security will not go to homes to stop the children from coming out, stampede was always meant to happen You should be concerned about the multitude of parents that allowed their children go to scamper for freebies. That's widespread poverty. 3 Likes |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Ykc2(m): 8:11pm On Dec 19 |
If not that the children are hungry who will sleep over for tomorrow invent 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Zionmdde: 8:14pm On Dec 19 |
Fiscus105:Sending back the remaining children? You are far from reality, it's either that security is overpowered, or a stampede will happen at that gate. Children are erratic in their attitude Involve police, with guns? Hia na wa ooo. Stray bullet things Going house to house would have been the best but then organizing events to help the poor should be banned in Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by johannu(m): 8:16pm On Dec 19 |
Zionmdde:You are a typical Nigerian with very poor reasoning. |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by SavageResponse(m): 8:16pm On Dec 19 |
Forkthiefnubu: Stop making a public exhibit of your imbecility! 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Babangidapikin: 8:18pm On Dec 19 |
I guess they weren't expecting such crowd ... I am just looking Ednut expecting 100 people , only to be shock 5000 people are waiting by 5am , tell me how will he coordinate or plan for that . I pray the Good Lord Console the Families and Government of Oyo Compensate too, because naturally they are liable too. 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Zionmdde: 8:19pm On Dec 19 |
Angelfrost:1. This is not the first time the lady is organizing such event in that same state. So was it that there was a population explosion or poverty explosion? Imagine organizing an event this year with 1000 people in attendance. If you want to organize the same event next year, will you use a stadium? 2. House to house sharing of food. So they will carry trailers of freebies and people will not attack them? Hia 3. At local government level? What made you think that those children traveled from different LGAs to the venue? Max. There would be 3LGAs. Now divide that crowd into 3 and tell me how big ur LGA sectetariat is 2 Likes |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Zionmdde: 8:21pm On Dec 19 |
johannu:Counter what i wrote there with logic and don't result to insulting your country. If you and everyone around you have poor reasoning, that's not enough sampling to make a generalization |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by johannu(m): 8:22pm On Dec 19 |
RenaissanceGuy: You said it the way it is. We are ne'er-do-wells who do things anyhow. I hate us. 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Rebelutionary: 8:22pm On Dec 19 |
Zionmdde:Go back and read the article and stop putting a premium on folly abeg! The OP already did! Read: Enforce ticketing or registration to control attendance. How does a church like RCCG house millions for days and not once has there been a stampede?! Oh you think it is magical. See the question this one is asking that ties to the answer he is deflecting from! Common sense they say is not common and in Nigeria some of you make it an art! Immigration already knew their numbers because people registered and even paid a thousand Naira back then....common sense should consider staggering the days for the exam! What's so difficulty in that? Asking me about who is in prison is you running on empty but just want to say something to "fill your tank"! 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Dididrumz(m): 8:22pm On Dec 19 |
Space booked. |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Elidrisy20: 8:23pm On Dec 19 |
Do you think is easy to gather 5000 pupils/students? The organizers really fuk up |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by 3kay945(m): 8:24pm On Dec 19 |
Forkthiefnubu: There is nothing in your head. Perhaps, filthy water! |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Omoawoke(m): 8:24pm On Dec 19 |
A good lesson learnt |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by omoredia: 8:26pm On Dec 19 |
Blame tinubu poverty |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Zionmdde: 8:28pm On Dec 19 |
Rebelutionary:Ticketing? Registration? For children of the poor? Who probably don't have access to smart phones?. Ticketing? So how will the tickets be distributed? Your last paragraph shows you don't know how to read and understand. So let me bring it down to layman's terms I'd immigration that had everything and data they needed to organize a hitch free event failed and nobody was jailed, why are you hypocrites baring your fangs on a woman whose plans were overthrown by the poverty explosion in the country? 3 Likes |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by johannu(m): 8:33pm On Dec 19 |
F117nighthawk:How I wish that the poor people know that "nothing is ever done for the poor people with good intentions from those so called highly influential people." 1 Like |
Re: When Good Intention Is Not Enough: Lessons From Ibadan Children Stampede by Rebelutionary: 8:34pm On Dec 19 |
Zionmdde:Unfortunately, you just made your ignorance bare for all to see! So, because "nobody was jailed" then nobody should demand accountability from this ones (like there was no uproar at the time)! Some of you need to go back to the stone age because you don't belong in a society that seeks improvement! Keep your emotions in check cos body is baring fangs on any woman but simply saying they could have done better! You see where your education failed you? Just so you know this is not the first time she's organising such an event and if something like this happens in this instance it tells of a failure on their part and like I said in my initial mention they/we all should learn the lessons. 1 Like |
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