InvertedHammer:

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Are you talking about practicing or becoming a full-fledged MD? The apprentice fixing your brake pad is already practicing but is not considered a full-fledged mechanic. The value of a resident physician (still considered an apprentice/student under the auspices of an attending physician by the way) is attached to his salary which is peanuts compared to medical doctors. Residents are not qualified to write all orders especially controlled substances, invasive procedures AND their orders are usually double-checked through their attending. Now if s/he is a fellow, it is a different ball game.

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You are well Informed

But my point still stand - a resident is already practicing: but still under training to become an attending/ board certified

However, he is already practicing medicine

InvertedHammer:

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Ok.
Let's add it.
Residency is minimum of 3 years ( for those lucky to be placed on first attempt in low competitive specialties)
USMLE part 1
USMLE part 2
Intermediary logistics.

Minimum of 5 years is sacrosanct. Your friend is either an outlier or a liar. Take it to the bank. A story that starts with "my friend" (not personal experience) is not credible.

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STENON:
Hahahaha. I am married with kids. But I have friends and families who are still single incase you are a nice person

OChimex:


Are you living in the US or you are talking from hearsay?

WesleyPepper:

You are a clown
If not that it’s not fair , I would have dropped his name here and now .
Dude is balling big time . He’s an Esan guy and got married to the daughter of a former VC of UI earlier this year .
5 other guys from my class have also started residency in the same US and we left school just 5 years ago .
They started last year despite losing a year to
COVID .

The thing with Nigerians is that , they are too ignorant and unwilling to learn and take correction.
Imagine arguing with someone who is in the system .

Go to all medical schools in the country especially the private ones . Most of the kids there are already taking USMLE from 3rd year and they are not even willing to do house job or NYSC . It’s from medical school to the US.

If you were in residency as a Doctor, you are already practicing . It’s not until you become an attending or consultant .
So the nonsense 5 years you held on to like an autistic kid is a lie .
The same USMLE is written by everyone whether you trained as an undergraduate in the US or finished from Ekiti state university

This argument is even meaningless because all these things I’ve said are verifiable online .

US pathway is very competitive , expensive but transparent .

A lot of Doctors here already told all of you how it is done but you’ve decided to hold on to the lie .
Delusional clown 😂😂😂

Infotubia9ja:
I totally understand you chairman.
You are very correct.

Amalekki:
Living in the US. How about you? Hearsay?

dogo568:



Any names? If you don't mind

OChimex:

Check my profile.
Now tell me where you live in the US, and which company job was that, becasue I know for sure that no US company employs you with your Nigeria certificate if the job is strictly certificate based. Becasue nigeria has no database where anything can be verified. Besides, whatever knowledge you have from nigeria is outdated and archaic.
Although most jobs in the use don't need cert to get it, but if a job is strictly based on certificate no way you get that job with your nigeria certificate for sure.
By the way, I live in Superior, Colorado.

Amalekki:
I live in Frisco, Texas.

Why would you limit the conversation to "strictly certificate based", is that a smart cop out? Job market is not restricted to Apple, Tesla, Meta, Google, Microsoft, AWS etc lol. Most of the jobs requiring a college degree would read "Education requirement: Bachelor's" or "Education requirement: Master's" with additional specifics like "degree must be in computer science, engineering or related". I know this from personal experience and I know the HR process during and after offer of employment.

It is surprising that this is new to you for someone living in Colorado. At least 15 of my close circle of friends/family do not have a single additional degree apart from what they got in Nigeria, and yes many others do including myself via company funding. Most of them do have professional certifications but almost all are on jobs with clear requirement for bachelor's or master's level education.

In the USA, there are no specific laws that dictate how HR teams must verify college certificates. They are generally based on individual company policies and industry practices with credentials verification. Job market could be very tough in the USA but easier in some states, you not getting a job may have absolutely nothing to do with your Nigerian certificate. You are not the only applicant.

OChimex:

I do HVAC, and I had to obtain EPA license part 1,2,3 to be able to handle refrigerant.
Most American professional job require American licence, which your nigerian license won't get you the job,
Again, HR is not a skilled job that require license or degree. Anybody can be a HR without certificate. Most jobs in the US don't need certificate, even being a manager. Lol.
But once it's a professional skilled job, your nigerian cert or license wont get you that.
No nigerianurse or doctor or lawyer or engineer can practice with their nigerian license in America.

Amalekki:
You are mixing things up and creating a debate that does not exist. You are obviously confused with most of the things you mentioned.

- Professional licenses and certifications are typically governed by state licensing boards and professional associations. These are totally different from university degrees/certificates. You can't practice in America even with American degrees unless you have those licenses in those specific fields. This has nothing to do with Nigerian certificate being rejected or unrecognized.
- For your HVAC, you only need High School Diploma or GED for your licensing journey. We are discussing UNIVERSITY GRADUATES here.
- I never said HR is a skilled job, that's a misunderstanding on your part. I only mentioned HR process. HR department handles employee hiring, job issues, promotion, termination etc in organizations. You don't sound like someone that has worked in corporate environment in America, I guess you are mainly self-employed. HR shouldn't be confusing if you work corporate in America. I only wrote "In the USA, there are no specific laws that dictate how HR teams must verify college certificates." That shouldn't be confusing.
- Yes, you can't practice as a Nurse, Doctor, Engineer with Nigerian degree. You have to go through the licensing part but your Nigerian degree gets you qualified for the licensing process. Mind you, even with American degree, you can't practice in those fields. They just qualify you for the licensing process.

Again, don't be in a hurry to respond. Try to read and understand then learn more so you don't sound ignorant. This is knowledge sharing about what exists, and it's clear you don't know about some things here and this should be an opportunity to learn more. If you are discussing HVAC here, I will keep quiet since I don't know much about it. However, you can't tell me what I know 100% is not true simply because you know nothing about it. You can't wake up and say there is no place called Salvador in Brazil simply because you are not aware of its existence. That is exactly what you are doing here.

ABUPHARM:

Names of what? No professional examination for courses like Rad, Physio or Medlab, all they have to do is register for HCPC and start applying for a sponsorship job

Amalekki:
You are mixing things up and creating a debate that does not exist. You are obviously confused with most of the things you mentioned.

- Professional licenses and certifications are typically governed by state licensing boards and professional associations. These are totally different from university degrees/certificates. You can't practice in America even with American degrees unless you have those licenses in those specific fields. This has nothing to do with Nigerian certificate being rejected or unrecognized.
- For your HVAC, you only need High School Diploma or GED for your licensing journey. We are discussing UNIVERSITY GRADUATES here.
- I never said HR is a skilled job, that's a misunderstanding on your part. I only mentioned HR process. HR department handles employee hiring, job issues, promotion, termination etc in organizations. You don't sound like someone that has worked in corporate environment in America, I guess you are mainly self-employed. HR shouldn't be confusing if you work corporate in America. I only wrote "In the USA, there are no specific laws that dictate how HR teams must verify college certificates." That shouldn't be confusing.
- Yes, you can't practice as a Nurse, Doctor, Engineer with Nigerian degree. You have to go through the licensing part but your Nigerian degree gets you qualified for the licensing process. Mind you, even with American degree, you can't practice in those fields. They just qualify you for the licensing process.

Again, don't be in a hurry to respond. Try to read and understand then learn more so you don't sound ignorant. This is knowledge sharing about what exists, and it's clear you don't know about some things here and this should be an opportunity to learn more. If you are discussing HVAC here, I will keep quiet since I don't know much about it. However, you can't tell me what I know 100% is not true simply because you know nothing about it. You can't wake up and say there is no place called Salvador in Brazil simply because you are not aware of its existence. That is exactly what you are doing here.

IyaTola:
ONLY UK Canada and america does not recognize ICAN they recognize ACCA.

ndidibabe:
ICAN ACA is not an internationally accepted certification but ACCA is. However, if you can pass ACA, u need little effort to pass ACCA.

OChimex:

Okay oo, if you say so. I no go argue your experience.
I have worked for big companies and working for a big company now. I talk from experience, having been rejected because they see my nigeria Bsc as a joke from a joke country...

NwaliE01:


Stop spewing lies. I am a medical doctor from Nigeria, today practicing in Australia.
I only passed my licence examination and I didn't have or need to attend any additional school to practice.
Our Local Certifications are recognised 💯% abroad.

Infotubia9ja:





You see you are a very stupid physiotherapist I must say..
Did you read what I wrote well you illiterate of a person..

Did they not write an exam to be given that certificate or did they just present their Nigerian degrees and got the job...
You be really idiot.
I no feel like insulting you so don't make me at all.

You dey UK dey make mouth. Lagos of abroad I bet na peckham u dey self dey make all this noise
My friend relocate to a much better country before you start talking rubbish or do you consider backdoor UK as abroad..
My friend you better read well before you come open you smelling mouth and talk rubbish with me. Small illiterate.

Infotubia9ja:
I totally understand you chairman.
You are very correct.

callmeRichie:


Hello brother, hope this message meets you well? I'm an aspiring immigrant to Australia, seeing you're based there is a relief. If like to ask and clarify one or two questions if you could kindly respond.

Between store/mall job or Hotel/agriculture job, which one could pay higher? And what's their stress level or job description like?

Hoping you could have better of these things than myself. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks

Infotubia9ja:


Good question..

I hope I try to explain this as much understandable as I can for you.

You see all those doctors here in Nigeria right, they are not doctors when the relocate abroad. They get jobs as home care aid to nursing sick people. That is a different occupation far far from practicing as a doctor in America or Canada or UK.
Infact you can as well apply to be a home care assistant as well with your university degree from Nigeria which is considered a normal equivalent to diploma here. You just have to pass the nursing exam which I know a 200level university student from Nigeria can read the Q&A and pass as well.
What you do is simply take care of old people or mentally unstable people and make sure they don't poop on their self or when they do you change them and also make sure they take their meds regularly and also monitor them so they don't harm their self.
Anybody can do that job infact that is equivalent to a factory job if you don't know only this time you be more careful because you handling a human life and can be arrested and you go to jail if you flop because it is stated there in your agreement you sign before you start working.

If you want to be a doctor in these countries, you have to apply for a medical or a nursing program/ degree where you undergo the process from the begining according to the countries teaching regulations and standards, pass the necessary exams, go for your training practice, write another exam if you fail you have to retake it which happens very often because I have friends who it has happened to. Then luckily you pass them you go under the process to be a certified nurse or doctor depending on the field you choose.

I hope you get the point now. Merry Xmas and season greetings.

Infotubia9ja:


First question for you :When you say doctor what field are you practicing so we know because inside MEDICINE them get mericin and inside DOCTOR practice dem get practice.

Secondly the license exam you write, without you passing that exam dem go allow you even think of to practice?
As far as I am concern
Before you are required to use a knife to insert or make a cut on any human to perform any kind of operation, you must undergo a medical school and secondly pass that exam
So tell me the medical profession you are practicing in America, do you open up any human.
Because those are the professions we consider Doctors not put me needle for body or look my eye infact even eye surgeon brain surgeon etc. den I die put.
So please enlighten us on your practicing in America so we understand more what part of doctoring you do.

Infotubia9ja:


Good question..

I hope I try to explain this as much understandable as I can for you.

You see all those doctors here in Nigeria right, they are not doctors when the relocate abroad. They get jobs as home care aid to nursing sick people. That is a different occupation far far from practicing as a doctor in America or Canada or UK.
Infact you can as well apply to be a home care assistant as well with your university degree from Nigeria which is considered a normal equivalent to diploma here. You just have to pass the nursing exam which I know a 200level university student from Nigeria can read the Q&A and pass as well.
What you do is simply take care of old people or mentally unstable people and make sure they don't poop on their self or when they do you change them and also make sure they take their meds regularly and also monitor them so they don't harm their self.
Anybody can do that job infact that is equivalent to a factory job if you don't know only this time you be more careful because you handling a human life and can be arrested and you go to jail if you flop because it is stated there in your agreement you sign before you start working.

If you want to be a doctor in these countries, you have to apply for a medical or a nursing program/ degree where you undergo the process from the begining according to the countries teaching regulations and standards, pass the necessary exams, go for your training practice, write another exam if you fail you have to retake it which happens very often because I have friends who it has happened to. Then luckily you pass them you go under the process to be a certified nurse or doctor depending on the field you choose.

I hope you get the point now. Merry Xmas and season greetings.