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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by laptopsforsale: 6:07pm On Jan 16
diordaves:


At current level, to deck a storey building of three bedrooms (about less than half a plot in size) will set you back on average about N8 million. How much is a full plot of land in the area?

If a plot of land is well above 8 million, a storey building is better value for money. When you deck a building, you are essentially creating at a cost more space in the air. So, if a plot of land is 25 million for example, it is more economical to create additional space in the air for 8million.

If a plot of land in the area is well under 8million at current value, a bungalow is a better value for money. What's the economic point of creating additional space in the air at a cost of 8million when you can buy additional land for example for 2 million.

All the above are purely on economic permutations. The situation takes a different twist if you are emotionally attached to the area and there are no additional land to buy. In this situation, you should have bought a minimum of two plots from inception or you weigh the cost of creating additional space in the air against your desire for additional compound space and go for whichever is greater.

The economics of buying a piece of land is if the land is relatively cheap, buy a minimum of two plots together. You never know.

Very deep and brilliant insight! Thanks so much!

A plot of land here is nearly 10million and i just need 2 units of 3 bedroom flats. I love the idea of having a spacious compound so that I can have a garden where my wife can plant some vegetables and teach my children the principles of sowing and reaping.

So, I think it will be better getting a plot of land and build a 1 storey building comprising of 1 unit of 3 bedroom flat upstairs and downstairs, then have ample space around.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kkonsults: 7:08pm On Jan 16
laptopsforsale:


Very deep and brilliant insight! Thanks so much!

A plot of land here is nearly 10million and i just need 2 units of 3 bedroom flats. I love the idea of having a spacious compound so that I can have a garden where my wife can plant some vegetables and teach my children the principles of sowing and reaping.

So, I think it will be better getting a plot of land and build a 1 storey building comprising of 1 unit of 3 bedroom flat upstairs and downstairs, then have ample space around.
Great idea
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kkonsults: 7:12pm On Jan 16
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Riosystem: 7:41pm On Jan 16
Chijiokefbn:


What is the cost of this set up?


To successfully run an air conditioner (AC) on a solar-powered system, it is essential you determine the number of hours you intend to operate the AC daily.

For this setup, you should plan for a minimum battery storage capacity of 60 kWh lithium batteries, which will ensure sufficient energy reserves for stable operation. The overall cost of the system, range between ₦25 million and ₦40 million, depending on the number of hours the AC is expected to run and the quality of components selected.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:14pm On Jan 16
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ELEVATIONVIEWDE(m): 9:41pm On Jan 16
Vert realistic and very easy to do because I do that often.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 10:15pm On Jan 16
laptopsforsale:


Very deep and brilliant insight! Thanks so much!

A plot of land here is nearly 10million and i just need 2 units of 3 bedroom flats. I love the idea of having a spacious compound so that I can have a garden where my wife can plant some vegetables and teach my children the principles of sowing and reaping.

So, I think it will be better getting a plot of land and build a 1 storey building comprising of 1 unit of 3 bedroom flat upstairs and downstairs, then have ample space around.

Spacious compound? Way to go. Nothing beats a specious compound.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 10:28pm On Jan 16
Riosystem:



To successfully run an air conditioner (AC) on a solar-powered system, it is essential you determine the number of hours you intend to operate the AC daily.

For this setup, you should plan for a minimum battery storage capacity of 60 kWh lithium batteries, which will ensure sufficient energy reserves for stable operation. The overall cost of the system, range between ₦25 million and ₦40 million, depending on the number of hours the AC is expected to run and the quality of components selected.

₦40 million kwanu? Just for the solar system to power possibly just one unit of AC. I've said it before on this forum and I will say it again. It makes no economic sense to spend close to 50 million on a Solar system just because you want it to power an AC unit.

It is better to have a budget of about ₦5 million on Solar. This will power lights, fan, fridge. Then get an Inverter generator to power AC for the few minutes one needs it and invest the remaining ₦35 million that will be yielding income to buy fuel to power the inverter generator.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Riosystem: 10:42pm On Jan 16
diordaves:


₦40 million kwanu? Just for the solar system to power possibly just one unit of AC. I've said it before on this forum and I will say it again. It makes no economic sense to spend close to 50 million on a Solar system just because you want it to power an AC unit.

It is better to have a budget of about ₦5 million on Solar. This will power lights, fan, fridge. Then get an Inverter generator to power AC for the few minutes one needs it and invest the remaining ₦35 million that will be yielding income to buy fuel to power the inverter generator.

Thank you for your input. From the previous discussion, I recall he mentioned 12-14 AC units.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by cash1115(m): 10:47pm On Jan 16
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Gigaset: 1:07am On Jan 17
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by visaclick: 2:23am On Jan 17
Riosystem:

It was because of the type of equipment you got. People have been using AC with solar effectively.
no need arguing, it’s everywhere on tiktok those who spent millions and are regretting while solar guys are cashing out.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by JustCryptos: 2:43am On Jan 17
visaclick:
no need arguing, it’s everywhere on tiktok those who spent millions and are regretting while solar guys are cashing out.

Permit me to wade in here. This is what happens when people jump on the bandwagon without knowing the intricacies of a system.

Are there solar guys that don't know jack about the trade? Absolutely yes!
Does solar work effectively? Yes too.

I have been 100% off-grid for the past 3 years - no nepa light, no generator. My system is not very expensive but I haven't had a blackout of up to 10 days in the past 3 years.

What does my system carry - 2 deep freezers, iron, pumping machine, fans, virtually everything. People jump on the solar bandwagon, proceed to misuse the system, and them complain that solar is bad.

Start by calculating your load requirement, ask the right questions, and go for people that know their onions.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 3:45am On Jan 17
JustCryptos:


Permit me to wade in here. This is what happens when people jump on the bandwagon without knowing the intricacies of a system.

Are there solar guys that don't know jack about the trade? Absolutely yes!
Does solar work effectively? Yes too.

I have been 100% off-grid for the past 3 years - no nepa light, no generator. My system is not very expensive but I haven't had a blackout of up to 10 days in the past 3 years.

What does my system carry - 2 deep freezers, iron, pumping machine, fans, virtually everything. People jump on the solar bandwagon, proceed to misuse the system, and them complain that solar is bad.

Start by calculating your load requirement, ask the right questions, and go for people that know their onions.

I believe you 💯!
Have you not observed how the rooftop of most banks are covered with solar panels in recent times? They are known for their plenty "chilly" ACs and several computers. I believe the solar system must be serving them.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:41am On Jan 17
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Gigaset: 7:59am On Jan 17
I can call you a scammer with my full chest because I paid you for tower burglary pipes but you used a different product and if you are sure that the pipe you used was tower maybe you should upload the picture here and let people confirm it and like I said earlier just sit back and enjoy the ride, the upper picture is what he used while the one below is tower I never knew the difference till my new fabricator pointed it out to me.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Geekop: 8:46am On Jan 17
rotecch77:
Who can relate ?

Hmmm... The hiatus bah
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23(m): 9:00am On Jan 17
Riosystem:


Thank you for your input. From the previous discussion, I recall he mentioned 12-14 AC units.

The man said 12numbers 1.5hp AC, 2numbers 2hp AC and60pcsi of 6w LED light... Solar inverter is going to be more efficient compare the cost of diesel and electricity tariff now. The initial cost might be much but in the long run solar inverter will give you rest of mind if the properly calculated

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23(m): 9:09am On Jan 17
Beframia:


I believe you 💯!
Have you not observed how the rooftop of most banks are covered with solar panels in recent times? They are known for their plenty "chilly" ACs and several computers. I believe the solar system must be serving them.

Some filling stations are using solar for their operations. If you are familiar with Lagos city very well, there is total filling station along bank Anthony way ( Close to Sheraton Hotel), they are using solar for their operations. The roof is totally covered with panels..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Riosystem: 9:20am On Jan 17
visaclick:
no need arguing, it’s everywhere on tiktok those who spent millions and are regretting while solar guys are cashing out.

From the specifications of the product type, it is clear that this is a suboptimal installation. A 3KVA system is not suitable for running air conditioners without causing significant inefficiencies and operational issues. Another critical factor to consider is the type of battery used. For instance, using four tubular batteries for air conditioning is impractical and will not deliver effective results.

The solar market has become over saturated, with many claiming expertise in installation without fully understanding the fundamental principles of solar systems. Unfortunately, most customers tend to opt for electricians or general installers who lack the in-depth knowledge required to properly design and install solar systems. A true professional understands not only the system design but also the chemical composition, cycle life, and overall performance of the batteries.

Additionally, many solar product manufacturers are capitalizing on the market demand by flooding it with lower-quality products. For example, 99% of the dry cell and tubular batteries available in the market today have a cycle life of less than 2000 cycles, which is far below the industry standard for longevity. Most installers are unaware of what cycle life entails or how it impacts system performance. For comparison, many banks’ server rooms, which rely on solar systems, use dry cell batteries with cycle lives exceeding 6000 cycles. There is critical need for expertise and high-quality components in designing and installing solar solutions.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:33am On Jan 17
Geekop:


Hmmm... The hiatus bah

You got it.. 7bags of cement gone, about 70k, that is the dubious character of the delivery guys
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Alliswell73: 10:39am On Jan 17
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 11:41am On Jan 17
DaBullIT:


Hi

I understand that this thread has been here for ages and I'm hopeful that your still active on NL

I just wanted to ask if you used tierod while installing this ceiling? Most people have asked insist on using tie rod and that will defeat the purpose of buying pop design ceiling
Hi
Yeh I'm still active as ever, well No rod was used, its just nailed to the nudging as you will do in the Old ceilings. However to make it look better instead of using batons to line the nudges after installation you use a jointing tape to mask off the joints and fill with pop mixture for smooth finish. I hope this helps
NB as per the description bellow U cannot use the for under decking cos it will now cost you too much.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 11:51am On Jan 17
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by floshady02: 1:43pm On Jan 17
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23(m): 1:59pm On Jan 17
Riosystem:


From the specifications of the product type, it is clear that this is a suboptimal installation. A 3KVA system is not suitable for running air conditioners without causing significant inefficiencies and operational issues. Another critical factor to consider is the type of battery used. For instance, using four tubular batteries for air conditioning is impractical and will not deliver effective results.

The solar market has become over saturated, with many claiming expertise in installation without fully understanding the fundamental principles of solar systems. Unfortunately, most customers tend to opt for electricians or general installers who lack the in-depth knowledge required to properly design and install solar systems. A true professional understands not only the system design but also the chemical composition, cycle life, and overall performance of the batteries.

Additionally, many solar product manufacturers are capitalizing on the market demand by flooding it with lower-quality products. For example, 99% of the dry cell and tubular batteries available in the market today have a cycle life of less than 2000 cycles, which is far below the industry standard for longevity. Most installers are unaware of what cycle life entails or how it impacts system performance. For comparison, many banks’ server rooms, which rely on solar systems, use dry cell batteries with cycle lives exceeding 6000 cycles. There is critical need for expertise and high-quality components in designing and installing solar solutions.


You are right with information above... How can you install 3KVA inverter to power AC plus other light, fridge etc and you are expecting a smooth running without any issue... Use your normal generator at home as an example.. Can you load your 3KVA generator with AC, light, and other equipment without any issue.. A lot of people design without considering sTARTING CURRENT and RUNNING CURRENT..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Free2Fly: 2:08pm On Jan 17
ceelog:
Half plot you mean ia 50 by 100ft right?
Great uae of the land space though.

Some day i will need you.


Who defined 50 x 100ft as a half plot?

This is the standard size of a plot in some parts of the country

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by visaclick: 3:36pm On Jan 17
diordaves:


₦40 million kwanu? Just for the solar system to power possibly just one unit of AC. I've said it before on this forum and I will say it again. It makes no economic sense to spend close to 50 million on a Solar system just because you want it to power an AC unit.

It is better to have a budget of about ₦5 million on Solar. This will power lights, fan, fridge. Then get an Inverter generator to power AC for the few minutes one needs it and invest the remaining ₦35 million that will be yielding income to buy fuel to power the inverter generator.
exactly my point. like i said it is a rat race but solar installers will intentionally hide that information and am yet to find a bank that runs their acs on solar, i ve been inside banks where power goes off and all acs turns of until they turn on their generator, only the lights remain on which is connected to the solar.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Geekop: 3:51pm On Jan 17
rotecch77:


You got it.. 7bags of cement gone, about 70k, that is the dubious character of the delivery guys

Chai
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23(m): 3:56pm On Jan 17
visaclick:
exactly my point. like i said it is a rat race but solar installers will intentionally hide that information and am yet to find a bank that runs their acs on solar, i ve been inside banks where power goes off and all acs turns of until they turn on their generator, only the lights remain on which is connected to the solar.

Banks connected all their ATM, AC in the ATM gallery and all their Extra low voltage(ELV) system to inverter. All the their teller counter socket points, mercury light and some selectected sockets within the banking Hall to inverter..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Port443: 5:27pm On Jan 17
visaclick:
exactly my point. like i said it is a rat race but solar installers will intentionally hide that information and am yet to find a bank that runs their acs on solar, i ve been inside banks where power goes off and all acs turns of until they turn on their generator, only the lights remain on which is connected to the solar.
The secret to enjoying your solar and inverter system is buying quality equipment and "fully" understanding your load. With proper calculation, you can perfectly get your load, and the type of inverter system that can power it. I am currently designing my house to be off grid. My sumo will be inverter sumo, i will be using central water heater which will be powered by sunlight. All my ac and fridges will be interver ac and fridge and I will be buying a quality battery pack and lots of panels to ensure they are well charged. Also my lighting will have max of 5watts each. I see people plugging industrial fan to their inverter and complaining that it doesn't last, some of that fan is rated 300watts grin grin

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