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As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 1:34pm On Feb 04 |
Recently I was discussing with a brother, who is a Winner, and he said to me that he's not one to attend the community church. That he likes attending service in Canaan Land. This got me thinking: because ever since I became a Winner, I have not deliberated attending service at Canaan Land. Though I have had the longing to go but I'd not really giving much effort to it. Recently, upon thinking about the words of that brother, that he's not one to attend the community church, I was like, is there something wrong about attending the community church? I looked around me and noticed that many around our community are like that brother. They don't like attending service at the community church. They rather go to Canaan Land to hear Bishop, which is good and fine. As that thought became preponderate on my mind, I realized that even some Winners who reside opposite the community church, on Sunday morning ,prepare to attend service at Canaan Land. Now don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad in going to Canaan Land if you're resident around Lagos-Ota and environs. However, the local community churches also need people to develop them. They need the strength of all and sundry to make the local church as aesthetic as what we have in Canaan Land today. Unfortunately, many who go to Canaan Land are, by my own submission, presumptuous that the local Pastors don't have the same anointing as Bishop, which is true: because the disciple cannot be greater than the master (Matthew 9:11). However, the same corporate anointing which flows from Canaan Land is the same in all the local community churches. But many don't believe this, and so many are not well established as a Winner in their local church communities. At one time, Bishop said, God showed him fire, as in the anointing, coming down and splitting into several splinters. This the Lord said to him that the same anointing that is resident in Canaan Land, is resident in all the local assemblies and Home Cells. Now why many don't believe this and attend services in their local assemblies, but would rather go to Canaan Land, I don't know. Many perhaps do not believe in the words of the Bishop in this aspect, or they would rather see Bishop than the local Pastor. 2 Chronicles 20:20 [20]And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper. Notice scripture says, "... Believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper." You see, many are not prospering in their local assemblies because they do not take heed to the words of the prophet concerning the fact the the same corporate anointing in Canaan Land is obtainable in all local assemblies. For the Bishop had said, the same corporate anointing which is resident in Canaan Land, resides in all the local community churches, and Home Cells. That statement is scriptural. And until many a Winner believe in it, they shall not be established amongst their brethren in their local assemblies. Now why did I say that statement by the Bishop is scriptural? In 1 Samuel the thirtieth chapter, David speaking by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost says: 1 Samuel 30:24 [24]For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike. Notice that text says, "... But as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike." Put somewhat differently in this context, 'But as the blessings and encounters of he that attend service in Canaan Land, so shall his blessings and encounters be that tarrieth in the local assembly: they both shall part alike.' When I got this revelation, I decided there is no need heading down to Canaan Land, when I can have the same blessings by walking a stone throw from my house to the local assembly. As a Winner, you are part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide, founded by Bishop David Oyedepo. While Canaan Land is the international headquarters of the church, attendance is not mandatory. The church encourages members to attend services at their local assemblies or community churches, which are usually closer and more convenient. These local assemblies are still part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide and provide opportunities for worship, teaching, and fellowship. However, attending services at Canaan Land can be a powerful and enriching experience, especially during special programs and events. Many Winners do travel to Canaan Land for these occasions, but it's not a requirement. Ultimately, as a Winner, you should seek to attend services at a location that feeds your spirit and helps you grow in your faith, whether that's at your local community church or Canaan Land. Don't hoard knowledge, propagate it! Jesus is Lord 8 Likes 1 Share
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Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by jom28gy(m): 1:51pm On Feb 04 |
Church causes division among each other, why 8 Likes |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 1:56pm On Feb 04 |
jom28gy: There is division amongst Christians because we have not matured in love. If all Christians can meditate in 1 Corinthians chapter 13 we would learn to walk in unity. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 1:58pm On Feb 04 |
jom28gy: Just for corrections, when I wrote Canaan Land and local assemblies, I don't mean other churches, I meant Living Faith Church local assemblies. These are the offshoot of the greater house, Canaan Land. 5 Likes |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by jom28gy(m): 1:59pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:where everybody is struggling to owned their own church, instead knowing God first 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by jom28gy(m): 2:01pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:still saying the same thing, church is church 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 2:12pm On Feb 04 |
jom28gy: The Lord Jesus always knew their would be division amongst his followers when he prayed, in the gospel of John: John 17:11 [11]And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. And Paul writing by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, reiterated the same notion in a different manner Ephesians 4:13 [13]Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: The church needs to walk in the love of God that's in us to dam the tides of division amongst Christians |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 2:14pm On Feb 04 |
jom28gy: There's nothing wrong in bringing up your own congregation in the faith of Christ. We should encourage that: because it is pleasing to God. |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by jom28gy(m): 2:32pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:pleasing to God to commercialised the words of God or how? 1 Like |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 3:01pm On Feb 04 |
jom28gy: Have you not read the word of the LORD, "My cities through prosperity shall yet be spread abroad" (Zechariah 1:17). In another place scripture says, "I will hiss for them, and gather them; for I have redeemed them: and they shall increase as they have increased" (Zechariah 10:8-9). further more, "The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into harvest" (Luke 10:2) How come we are seeing the increase in labourers as we have in many churches today and you are against it? Brother, it is the will of God for churches to spring up upon the earth: for it is written, "For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea" (Habakkuk 2:14). 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by Truthseeker10: 3:38pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:So when and how will churches walk in unity? |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by Truthseeker10: 3:40pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:But how will all Christians be in doctrinal unity when they don't have a central source of information? Will churches with different pastors and contradictory doctrines ever become united? |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 4:30pm On Feb 04 |
Truthseeker10: That is a good question brother. You see, the church will not become united in doctrines. All Catholics will not become Pentecostal; all Celestial will not become Catholics; all Baptist will not become Pentecostal; neither will all Pentecostal agree in doctrine. However, amongst doctrinal tangents, the church, the body of Christ, will ultimately become one in the faith. Paul writing by the Spirit, did not say till we all come in the unity of doctrine, nor did he say, till we come in the unity of denomination, no. Rather, the Spirit signify through Paul's letter: "Till we all come in the unity of the faith..." (Eph. 4:13). You see, the churches strength is in the faith in Christ Jesus. Also, the lord Jesus corroborated that when he says, "But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren" (Luke 22:32). The just will come in the unity of the faith because the just shall leave by faith. And without faith it is impossible to please God. You see, good works is good, but that does not please God. Also, good Christian doctrines, theology, Christian denomination are good, but those cannot please God. It is faith that please God. It is the faith that the church will come into unity of, so to speak. 2 Likes |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 5:00pm On Feb 04 |
Truthseeker10: The question of when and how is a function of time and knowledge. Yet, the wisdom of God is not subject to time nor does the word of God contingent on our knowledge, intellect so to speak. The Bible did not say when we come in the unity of the faith. Rather the Bible says, "Till we all come in the unity of the faith." You see, the word "Till" Ephesian 4:13 is not a preposition but a conjunction. It joins what Paul just got through saying in verse Ephesians4:12 with what he's about to say in Ephesians 4:13. Ephesians 4:12-13 12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the son of God, unto- a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature... You see, mathematically the number 12 comes before the number 13. And as such, the church will come in the unity of the faith when Ephesian 4:12 is fulfilled. Now the question is: has the church come into perfection (maturity)? No. Is the church of Christ fully built up? No. You see, until Ephesians 4:12 is fulfilled, verse 13 will not be fulfilled. 1 Like |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by Truthseeker10: 5:04pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:Oga Ephesians 4:13 talks about "unity of faith and of the knowledge of the son of God". Are you saying that we don't need to be united in the knowledge of the son of God also? King James Bible Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: People who call themselves christians today do not even agree on who Jesus is. Some say Jesus is God and others say Jesus is not God. Is that allowed in the body of Christ? |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by Truthseeker10: 5:10pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:So according to your Ephesians 4:13, contradiction is allowed in the body of Christ? If yes, is there anything like a false doctrine? |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 5:28pm On Feb 04 |
Truthseeker10: Brother that is not what meant. Don't run off a tangent. Rather, read in between lines as the "Truthseeker" you call yourself. I said the church will come in the unity of faith when the church has come to full maturity and built up to the measure of the statue of Christ, as Ephesians 4:12-13 revealed. There are false doctrines in the world. And yet, amongst Christians, there are those who are not rightly dividing the word of God. But rest assured, even as Moses' rod swallowed up the rod of the Magicians, so will the rightly divided word of God swallow up every false teaching in the body of Christ. |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by Truthseeker10: 5:32pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:Oga kindly tell me one church that you know that has false doctrines. |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 6:23pm On Feb 04 |
Truthseeker10: I said in the world, there are false doctrines. And yet in the church, there are those who are not rightly dividing the word of God. |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by Truthseeker10: 6:26pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:Tell me one false doctrine in the church. |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 6:44pm On Feb 04 |
Truthseeker10: The Bible says fools are dull of hearing (Matthew 13:15). Don't be a fool. Let me for the third time repeat what I just got through saying,"in the world there are false doctrines, And yet, in the church there are those who are not rightly dividing the word of God. |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by Truthseeker10: 6:45pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:Give examples of those not rightly dividing the word of God. |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 7:33pm On Feb 04 |
Truthseeker10: Paul wrote to Timothy, a young minister, saying: 2 Timothy 2:15 [15]Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. If a workman, that is, a minister of the word, can rightly divide the word of God, then that means the word can be wrongly divided. For instance, I once told an elder in a certain denomination, whose wife is suffering from cataract to act on James 5:14. This text says, is there any sick among you, let him call for the elders of the church, and let them anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord, and the prayer of faith shall save the sick. And if he has committed sins, the Lord shall raise him up. After I had explain with scriptures that the Lord will heal his wife if he act on James 5:14. Yet, that elder told me if it is the will of God, she will be healed. You see, that elder is not rightly dividing the word of God as touching healing, because In Exodus 23:25, God had already said I will take sickness a way from the mist of thee. And in Matthew 8:17 the Bible says, himself took our infirmities and bare our sickness. So it is the will of God to heal this wife. But the elder is still not settled as touching the will of God to heal his wife. When we think wrong, we would speak and believe wrong. |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by Truthseeker10: 7:47pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:So according to your explanation of James 5:14, people who are physically sick should go to elders of the church to get well and not the hospital? Do you know any church where this practice is done? If yes, can you mention? |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 8:17pm On Feb 04 |
Truthseeker10: Brother, the Bible says in James 5:14 James 5:14 [14]Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: James writing under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost says, the prayer of faith shall heal the sick when the sick is prayed for and anointed with oil in the name of Jesus Christ. |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by Truthseeker10: 8:23pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:So anyone going to the hospital when he or she is physically sick has no faith? Do you know any church that practice this teaching? If yes, can you mention? |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 8:42pm On Feb 04 |
Truthseeker10: In Proverbs the fourth chapter and the twentieth through the twenty-second verses, the Bible says, Proverbs 4:20-22 [20]My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. [21]Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. [22]For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh. Notice God says his words are life and health or medicine to all their flesh. If you will go to hospital, that's fine and good. But God says, attend to his words. That is, put his words first. There nothing wrong going to the hospital. In fact, I'd admonish any one who is willing to see a doctor to do so. However, one should endeavour to attend to God's word first. You see, concerning king Asa, the Bible says: 1 Kings 15:11 [11]And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. However, when Asa was sick, the Bible says: 2 Chronicles 16:12-13 [12]And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians. [13]And Asa slept with his fathers, and died in the one and fortieth year of his reign. That text says, Asa did not sought the Lord concerning his sickness but to the physicians and he died. You see, consulting physicians when one is sick is good and fine, but before seeking their advice, seek God's word. Jesus told the Samaritan woman that it is not good to take the children's bread and give it to the dogs. The children's bread here is physical healing. It is the will of God to take sickness away from his children. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 8:51pm On Feb 04 |
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Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by Truthseeker10: 9:06pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:So is going to the hospital a sign of lack of faith in God? |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 9:11pm On Feb 04 |
Truthseeker10: Brother, I just got through telling you that going to see a doctor is good and fine, but before you do, endeavour to put God's word first. King Asa did not sought the LORD, and he died of his sickness. 2 Chronicles 16:12-13 [12]And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians. [13]And Asa slept with his fathers, and died in the one and fortieth year of his reign. |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by Truthseeker10: 9:50pm On Feb 04 |
ocnovakmichael:So if I put God first, why should I still go to the hospital? Is going to the hospital not a sign of lack of faith in God? |
Re: As A Winner Must I Attend Service In Canaan Land? by ocnovakmichael(m): 10:09pm On Feb 04 |
Truthseeker10: Brother, the Bible says, King Asa did not sought the LORD concerning his sickness, and he died. 2 Chronicles 16:12-13 [12]And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians. [13]And Asa slept with his fathers, and died in the one and fortieth year of his reign. |
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