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Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ: 5:27pm On Apr 09
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:58pm On Apr 09
Ken4Christ:
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.
Jehovah's Witnesses will never arrest anyone for speaking against us just as true disciples of Christ who believe that it's normal for critics to speak against us even lie against us just as Jesus has told us they will do! Matthew 5:11-12smiley

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12pm On Apr 09
They all know there is no Hellfire that is why they do the worst things you can ever imagine.
They are modern day Pharisees! undecided

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by APOPTOSIS: 7:30pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:

Jehovah's Witnesses will never arrest anyone for speaking against us just as true disciples of Christ who believe that it's normal for critics to speak against us even lie against us just as Jesus has told us they will do! Matthew 5:11-12smiley
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics


I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 8:58pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:

Jehovah's Witnesses will never arrest anyone for speaking against us just as true disciples of Christ who believe that it's normal for critics to speak against us even lie against us just as Jesus has told us they will do! Matthew 5:11-12smiley


Fraudulent words grin cheesy grin cheesy


Jehovah's witnesses vs Mcfee comes to front view. Go just type based on Jollywood served on JW broadcasting. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

How will you know they go against those who criticize them when na white washed version of your religious organization image come through jw broadcasting every month grin cheesy cheesy

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 9:00pm On Apr 09
APOPTOSIS:

Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics


I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

You are still far from reality about Jehovah's Witnesses. I can guarantee you are watching from afar paapaa.

The early you understand all these religious organization are using same template the better for you.

Their members will make good politicians 😂🤣😂🤣🤣. Totalitarianism form of government will make good politicians. Na corruption go full all the top places with nothing to check or balance their excesses. Just look at Russia and the government there you should understand how Jehovah's witnesses operate grin cheesy cheesy

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:03pm On Apr 09
What God has blessed no hater can curse! smiley

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 9:07pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:
They all know there is no Hellfire that is why they do the worst things you can ever imagine.
They are modern day Pharisees! undecided


Pharisees have the reputation of being holier than thou condemning everything across their path that don't dance to their self righteousness. Jehovah's witnesses always want every other Christian denomination to see them as holier than thou that's why Jehovah's Witnesses refer all others as false Christians in their self righteous state. grin cheesy cheesy

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 9:12pm On Apr 09
Ken4Christ:
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.


They are religious organization for a reason. Jesus did not set up religious organization to have followers. Those organization are set up by men and they have policies and procedures put in place to ensure the survival of whatever they set up. Any member that decides not to act accordingly will be killed by the policies and procedures. Na barracks, soldier go soldier come. Jesus did not ask anyone to follow men. The invitation Jesus gave is to be his followers. No go die on top another man set up. Those religious organization didn't die for anyone or the blood of the owners same as blood of Jesus Christ.

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 9:15pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:
What God has blessed no hater can curse! smiley

In your madness and insanities peddling brains you go cursing, abuse insult other Christian denomination because your lies and manipulations filled brains is the God that curse them

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:17pm On Apr 09
achorladey:

Pharisees have the reputation of being holier than thou. Jehovah's witnesses always want every other Christian denomination to see them as holier than thou that's why Jehovah's Witnesses refer all others as false Christians grin cheesy cheesy
Mumu!
Pharisees play holier than thou for their fellow worshipers inside the same temple just as your pastors act as if God loves them more than their followers.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't worship with anyone outside the Kingdom Hall just as Jesus will never worship with anyone outside the temple and Jesus never look down on anyone inside that temple like the Pharisees does to their own fellow Jews who are not of their class.

That's what the OP is saying as pastors are dealing with their own followers who speaks against them arresting them just as Pharisees arrested Jesus.

How many ex members have Jehovah's Witnesses arrested for speaking against them? smiley

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:30pm On Apr 09
A member of redeem said this about what Adeboye did to Iluyomade.
That's what the OP is saying!
See below screenshots:

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:42pm On Apr 09
Jehovah's Witnesses are not on the same page with your churches that's why we can't worship or pray with you but your pastors are fighting for money instead of Christ's kingdom.
If you all believe you're on the same page as Christians as each person is free to establish his own church then why are your pastors kicking against anyone starting his own church? smiley

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 9:45pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:

Mumu!
Pharisees play holier than thou for their fellow worshipers inside the same temple just as your pastors act as if God loves them more than their followers.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't worship with anyone outside the Kingdom Hall just as Jesus will never worship with anyone outside the temple and Jesus never look down on anyone inside that temple like the Pharisees does to their own fellow Jews who are not of their class.

That's what the OP is saying as pastors are dealing with their own followers who speaks against them arresting them just as Pharisees arrested Jesus.

How many ex members have Jehovah's Witnesses arrested for speaking against them? smiley


Madness and insanities peddling brains felt the impact of the post. He started with

Mumu

Mumu peddling na the trademark of your fellow brothers peddling lies and manipulations with their madness and insanities peddling brains.

Pharisees play holier than thou for their fellow worshipers inside the same temple just as your pastors act as if God loves them more than their followers.

That's why I said your brains are filled with madness and insanities peddling. MaxInDHouse had said previously on this platform there are many hypocrites and hypocrisy in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses is synonymous with pharisees who always want everyone around them to feel and see their holier than thou attitude. Had your brains worked well you will see where your GODS of men housed in USA refer to themselves as Jesus brothers while you are just friends of Jesus. You think based on that distinction Jehovah loves you more than your religious leaders housed IN USA. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Jehovah's Witnesses don't worship with anyone outside the Kingdom Hall just as Jesus will never worship with anyone outside the temple and Jesus never look down on anyone inside that temple like the Pharisees does to their own fellow Jews who are not of their class.

The more you type and try to distant yourself from the attribute you share with pharisees, I bring evidence to nail your madness and insanities peddling brains filled with lies. Your publications are filled with many instances members counseled to be humble. That's where the origin of arrogance and looking down on fellow members starts from. Your brains hardly think when defending your lies and manipulations filled religious organization grin cheesy grin cheesy

That's what the OP is saying as pastors are dealing with their own followers who speaks against them arresting them just as Pharisees arrested Jesus.

I know Jehovah's witnesses chain of leaders don't deal with members who speaks against them. In fact apostates is an alien word in the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses. Madness and insanities peddling dey your brains. What will you do during your meetings when a member go against your leadership and was asked to leave and refuse based on instructions given to elders?

Just try answer make I see whether they will arrest the person or not. grin cheesy grin grin grin I just dey try reset that your mumu peddling brains grin cheesy cheesy

How many ex members have Jehovah's Witnesses arrested for speaking against them?

It is on JW broadcasting every month. Madness and insanities peddling brains asking me question after given you an example. grin cheesy grin

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 9:50pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah's Witnesses are not on the same page with your churches that's why we can't worship or pray with you but your pastors are fighting for money instead of Christ's kingdom.
If you all believe you're on the same page as Christians as each person is free to establish his own church then why are your pastors kicking against anyone starting his own church? smiley

What a load of delusion.

Jehovah's Witnesses are not on the same page with your churches

He invited you here in the first place to come and confess. grin cheesy grin

that's why we can't worship or pray with you but your pastors are fighting for money instead of Christ's kingdom.

Your not praying with them decrease their membership or is the cause of the fighting there. Looking for relevance where they are not invited. grin cheesy grin cheesy

If you all believe you're on the same page as Christians as each person is free to establish his own church then why are your pastors kicking against anyone starting his own church?

They don't seek your validation or standards regarding starting their own church based on your madness and insanities peddling brains

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ: 9:52pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:

Jehovah's Witnesses will never arrest anyone for speaking against us just as true disciples of Christ who believe that it's normal for critics to speak against us even lie against us just as Jesus has told us they will do! Matthew 5:11-12smiley

But keep malice with any member of JW who leaves. Don't you? The entire congregation will take him or her as an enemy. They won't greet that person or talk to him or her.

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ: 9:53pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:
They all know there is no Hellfire that is why they do the worst things you can ever imagine.
They are modern day Pharisees! undecided

You still believe the lies of Russell and Rutherford inspite of overwhelming Scripture evidence against it.

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ: 9:55pm On Apr 09
APOPTOSIS:

Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics


I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

You comment noted but they are not Christians. I have proven it time and time again.

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 9:55pm On Apr 09
Ken4Christ:


But keep malice with any member of JW who leaves. Don't you? The entire congregation will take him or her as an enemy. They won't greet that person or talk to him or her.


He wants to present his whitewashed religious organization as being better than others. cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:55pm On Apr 09
achorladey:

Madness and insanities peddling brains felt the impact of the post. He started with. Mumu peddling na the trademark of your fellow brothers peddling lies and manipulations with their madness and insanities peddling brains. That's why I said your brains are filled with madness and insanities peddling. MaxInDHouse had said previously on this platform there are many hypocrites and hypocrisy in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses is synonymous with pharisees who always want everyone around them to feel and see their holier than thou attitude. Had your brains worked well you will see where your GODS of men housed in USA refer to themselves as Jesus brothers while you are just friends of Jesus. You think based on that distinction Jehovah loves you more than your religious leaders housed IN USA. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy The more you type and try to distant yourself from the attribute you share with pharisees, I bring evidence to nail your madness and insanities peddling brains filled with lies. Your publications are filled with many instances members counseled to be humble. That's where the origin of arrogance and looking down on fellow members starts from. Your brains hardly think when defending your lies and manipulations filled religious organization grin cheesy grin cheesy I know Jehovah's witnesses chain of leaders don't deal with members who speaks against them. In fact apostates is an alien word in the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses. Madness and insanities peddling dey your brains. What will you do during your meetings when a member go against your leadership and was asked to leave and refuse based on instructions given to elders? Just try answer make I see whether they will arrest the person or not. grin cheesy grin grin grin I just dey try reset that your mumu peddling brains grin cheesy cheesy It is on JW broadcasting every month. Madness and insanities peddling brains asking me question after given you an example. grin cheesy grin

Stop yarning off point:

CJStarz:

Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

What the OP said is clear:

Pastors are dealing ruthlessly with their church members who speaks against them or decide to start his own church, they arrests their own fellow worshipers using the money the same people contributed to pay police and court in order to punish their own fellow worshipers.

Jehovah's Witnesses never arrest anyone if you leave you're free to go and start your own church and just as we don't practice interfaith neither you or your church members can worship with us because it's wrong according to Christ's teachings! John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10

That's what we are saying so if you have something tangible to say stay on point! smiley

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:59pm On Apr 09
Ken4Christ:

But keep malice with any member of JW who leaves. Don't you? The entire congregation will take him or her as an enemy. They won't greet that person or talk to him or her.

That's what the scriptures teaches!

"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works" 2John 1:10-11

Because the person is no longer ready to continue in the same line of thought with the congregation of God! John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10

But why do your pastors treat you like that when you people claim you are all on the same page? smiley

Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:03pm On Apr 09
Ken4Christ:

You comment noted but they are not Christians. I have proven it time and time again.

So it's your people using police to arrest one another that are Christians! John 13:34-35 smiley

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:04pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:


Stop yarning off point:



What the OP said is clear:

Pastors are dealing ruthlessly with their church members who speaks against them or decide to start his own church, they arrests their own fellow worshipers using the money the same people contributed to pay police and court in order to punish their own fellow worshipers.

Jehovah's Witnesses never arrest anyone if you leave you're free to go and start your own church and just as we don't practice interfaith neither you or your church members can worship with us because it's wrong according to Christ's teachings! John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10

That's what we are saying so if you have something tangible to say stay on point! smiley


This is where your madness and insanities peddling brains started from on this thread.........

Jehovah's Witnesses will never arrest anyone for speaking against us just as true disciples of Christ who believe that it's normal for critics to speak against us even lie against us

I gave you an example your madness and insanities peddling brains returned with.......

What God has blessed no hater can curse

In your lies and manipulations filled brains you know Jehovah's witnesses will not tolerate any member going against the GODS of men housed in USA.

That's what we are saying so if you have something tangible to say stay on point

I am discussing trinity and hell fire like you now on this same thread. Madness and insanities peddling brains of yours no make you think clearly. Like the person you referenced said your case na MENTAL one
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:05pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:


That's what the scriptures teaches!

"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works" 2John 1:10-11

Because the person is no longer ready to continue in the same line of thought with the congregation of God! John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10

But why do your pastors treat you like that when you people claim you are all on the same page? smiley


Madness and insanities peddling brains looks for reason to deal with those who speaks against his GODS of men housed in USA grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:05pm On Apr 09
Ken4Christ:

You still believe the lies of Russell and Rutherford inspite of overwhelming Scripture evidence against it.

Scriptures you don't understand? grin

Oya mention any church that's free from what you are saying.

I mentioned Jehovah's Witnesses and instantly a neutral commentator attested to it.

I'm waiting Mr overwhelming scripture evidence to mention the name of any church that's not doing what you are complaining about here today! cheesy

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:07pm On Apr 09
achorladey:

Madness and insanities peddling brains looks for reason to deal with those who speaks against his GODS of men housed in USA grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Can you mention the name of your church where what OP said doesn't happen! smiley

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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:16pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:


Can you mention the name of your church where what OP said doesn't happen! smiley


When I told you your madness and insanities peddling brains started to refer myself and others who knows about it scoffers and sinners based on Psalms 1:1. Since then to say you are happy based on the same Psalms 1:1 na problem for your lies and manipulations filled madness and insanities peddling brains grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:18pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:


Scriptures you don't understand!

Oya mention any church that's free from what you are saying.

I mentioned Jehovah's Witnesses and instantly a neutral commentator attested to it.

I'm waiting Mr overwhelming scripture evidence to mention the name of any church that's not doing what you are complaining about here today! cheesy


At least your madness and insanities peddling brains knows your religious organization equally deals with those that speak against your GODS of men housed in USA and you jump into 1 John to defend the madness and insanities peddling of your brains grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:22pm On Apr 09
achorladey:

When I told you your madness and insanities peddling brains started to refer myself and others who knows about it scoffers and sinners based on Psalms 1:1. Since then to say you are happy based on the same Psalms 1:1 na problem for your lies and manipulations filled madness and insanities peddling brains grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

This has not come to continued insults. cheesy

OP complained about evil deeds happening in their churches and i told him it doesn't happen among Jehovah's Witnesses, instantly another commentator confirmed what i said.

Oya mention the name of your own church let us know if the same thing doesn't happen there. cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Truvelisback(m): 10:22pm On Apr 09
Ken4Christ:
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.
Mention them.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24pm On Apr 09
achorladey:

At least your madness and insanities peddling brains knows your religious organization equally deals with those that speak against your GODS of men housed in USA and you jump into 1 John to defend the madness and insanities peddling of your brains grin cheesy cheesy
Apart from our church all of you are unbelievers that's why it's only worshipers in our kingdom Halls we view as fellow believers! Matthew 10:6

But you people claim you're all Christians with all the contradictions among you so why the same thing nah? cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:25pm On Apr 09
Truvelisback:
Mention them.
God bless you! cheesy

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