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Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by jonot: 9:12am On Apr 05, 2013 |
Asking someone to manage your biz in your absence, family or not, isn't a good idea. It would make economic sense to do it yourself. If you will get an experienced person to manage it, you have to be involved. Money can spoil the best of relationships, so be careful & wise. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by bebe2(f): 10:27am On Apr 05, 2013 |
donpata: Like really, most of the people talking here have no experience in baking things. Evryone is running his mouth based on the Nigerian thing we know - Dishonesty. But to the question; Yes, u can run dat bakery even without coming over yourself. Some businesses however require that the owner has a significant idea of how the business operates. I mean, like the bakery, u shouldnt just be a novice in bread production, u must know a bit of wat nd wat 2 mix to get diz or dat. Then all u need to do is to direct ur sister based on the information u are recieving from her. U would only suspect foul play if u dnt trust her in the first place or if she's not acting to ur dictates. Tnks for ur time. Am getting to increase our profit margin I need to go more specialise. At the moment it's mainly medium and super but my plans for that baery was that i ud be doing a lot of breads and cake dat we enjoy here. We we will get there I think I need to get more involved. Pls can u help me, I need a reliable printer that can print on nylon and also do some bright coloured labels. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by toasmart(m): 10:54am On Apr 05, 2013 |
its too risky for doing that cos no one is to be trusted in terms of money pls dont take any chance for runing any business in naija from abroad u can always do it when u are back in naija if u still intend to come back to naija |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by Rimbaldi: 10:58am On Apr 05, 2013 |
bebe2: Scour the internet for printers, there are many Nigerian printers online. Try Vconnect dot com to get a list of printers and their addresses. Tell them what u want and let them send u samples to ur email or send u links to view some of their samples. At this stage, watch how and who u ask for help. Many people can take advantage of ur situation if u are not careful enough. The internet is there but for some reason, Nigerians in diaspora seem to think u cant get online services in Naija. But just like everything else, do due diligence before releasing money for anything. Get ur sis to check out whoever u are dealing with so u know they are for real. U need to be VERY INVOLVED in the business, after all it is ur pet project. DONT leave anything to chance! While u specialize on the type of confectionery u want to be making, think of ur TARGET CLIENTELLE AND THEIR MINDSET and how to reach them. U cant be selling 'agege bread' in VGC unless ur target is the menial labour population like gatemen, house helps, e.t.c. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by Nobody: 2:40pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
If you want sincere advise on how to run a profitable bakery in Nigeria. Call: 08036880615 or email:yemisamson@live.com Thanks |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by Fhemmmy: 2:57pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
toasmart: its too risky for doing that cos no one is to be trusted in terms of money pls dont take any chance for runing any business in naija from abroad u can always do it when u are back in naija if u still intend to come back to naija That is always so easy to say but not that easy to do . . . Someone that reside outside of Nigeria already has a life there and wont be easy to just yank himself or herself out of that place and when someone has a job, not easy to just leave the job and come to Nigeria to come and do the business, so it is always easy and good to find someone that will be reliable and good enough to handle the business. Also, remember that to start a business, it is a process and not just a day's plan . . . a good business that would survive needs plan and a great one at that, so if the person have to come to Nigeria for all these, he or she would have to quit their daily living and come to Nigeria, let us just hope that one is able to find reliable people that could partner with those out of Nigeria . . . |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by kaiye007: 4:30pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
Okija_juju: Use Bromate..Irrelevant question!!! |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by everyday: 7:14pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
Its better you sell it and move on with your life |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by Nobody: 8:15pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
bebe2: Third time am posting on your topic. Your problem is likely not the bright colours of your label if you are going to specialise on premium bakery. I hope that's what you mean by specialise. If your clients recognise the quality of your bread, they will not mind even if your label is as dark as charcoal. Do not rush to spend your money, go back sit down and study the business before you decide what the problem is. Packaging may not be the problem. Be logical in your approach not intuitive. If you are producing average quality bread, your problem could be your distribution network, maybe it's too small. If you are producing above average quality breads: maybe you are targeting the wrong clientele. May be your bread needs to get to high end supermarkets and like. It is still possible that your label is too boring, but I doubt that. Am interested in how you solve this problem, do keep us posted when you do. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by biafranqueen: 8:44pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
5 years now amdman: I think we need to take into cognizance the profit margin in bakery business generally, as profitability is based on volume. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by bebe2(f): 12:02am On Apr 06, 2013 |
KenGali: Thank will def keep it updated ![]() |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by bebe2(f): 12:04am On Apr 06, 2013 |
biafranqueen: Thats what my family is doing a baker is paying rent for 5 years now Pls were is ur family's bakery, how much have u rented it out for? |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by pristine700yah: 12:54am On Apr 06, 2013 |
Bros. remember u are the owner of the VISION nobodi can realized it 4 u pple can only support u to realized it,so dont be deceived u are in UK because of money that money is here also, u have a laudable idea, if u can stay wt it 2 grow soonest UK will be like going to ur kitchen, it is just a matter of time. I deals in Bakery materials I have met wt me bakery owners they resume there as their staff are resuming. The CHOICE is urs. UK is good but the way u can make the money here is not easy there, if ur biz is genuine also wt prayer u will breakthru here, I was there last yr wt my family wt alot of expenses, but could u believe it when I came back and did one supply I made more what I spent on the trip just on one transaction, Is that possible over? U know very well IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by amdman: 6:02am On Apr 06, 2013 |
bebe2: You can either lease your bakery for a fixed or relative rate. Fixed rate is where the person pays you a specific sum monthly regardless of his/her profitability. This requires less supervision and input from you (you need to ensure the person is using your equipment well. Relative rate is where you charge the person per bag of flour used daily. This is more or less the practice in Lagos. It is more profitable in the long term as you can have up to three people using the bakery at the same time. It however requires you to have someone on site to monitor the rate of production. Another model you can use is the profit sharing model. Here you give the bakery to someone that will run it on profit sharing basis with or without a guaranteed percentage for you. GUARANTEED PACKAGE - your current profit + 20% (for example) is guaranteed to you monthly. The operator only earns something when this target is exceeded. NO GUARANTEES -operator runs the business and you split the profit based on agreed percentages. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by DaddyGngeess(m): 7:33pm On Apr 06, 2013 |
I have d same experience once b4, if u want I can help u by sending somebody to asist and show them how to make real money from bakary business. g.geess@yahoo.com. Contact me if u care |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by bebe2(f): 8:35pm On Apr 06, 2013 |
Daddy G n geess:tnks for the offer. i was wondering if there was a particular flour or ingredients that increases the bread quantity. but i have learnt there isnt much profit in 1 bag but wit higher quantity we will achieve higher profit. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by donpata(m): 9:39pm On Apr 06, 2013 |
bebe2: U c, u can increase production by improving on the quality of bread, quality of packaging and good distribution network. The most important thing is distribution network. U can produce quality bread but without a good distribution netwrk, its sham. Gone are the days customers rush to bakeries to buy bread; there are too many bakeries now so everyone is pursuing the vendors to their doorsteps. Anoda tin is the population around ur bakery and the class of the people. If they are mid class to low class, u may consider making other smaller brands that will sell faster thus increasing ur production scale. U cant imagine, i still produce N20 bread, and N30 bread. These two and d super D loaf actually take up much of the flour. So i can produce 8 bags at d beginning of the week and it wont still be sufficient to distribute to all my outside customers. The main disadvantage here is dat ur profit margin will b slim. But evn if na 1.5k per bag by say 7 bags, dats around 10k gain daily. Dats not sustainable though so am in d process of restructuring my productn. 1 thing ive noticd is dat some flour yield more dan odas. Its however still a mystry am tryin to figure out. The flour dat works for anoda bakery may not work well for anoda - but some flours are generally better than others. Some kick well and thus can increase yield, while oders simply dont. Again, u may use a particular flour nd after a while, it stops givn u results; maybe its 4rm d company. So u simply hav to switch flour. Among the ones are prefer are Golden Penny, Honey Well and Life. By d way if u are in d UK, u can meet or consult a bakery there. U knw, dey take tym to do research tins better. They could provide u wit info on d ingredients 2 use, dia proportn nd so. Then u may b able to produce dat kind of Quality Agege Bread Osofia ate in London. However, Consultancy there may b 2 xpensive. U may consider getting a consultant, pay him btw 100-150k and direct him to liase with ur sister on how to overhaul the bakery completely. Besides, if u want 2 standardize it, u will need modern machines wch are quite xpensive - and of course, A gigantic Generator. Now we are done with ansering ur questionss. Stop asking and Act. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by bebe2(f): 11:59am On Apr 07, 2013 |
donpata: Don't mind me am a learner ![]() I am getting bakers brought in from ondo as I can't find a responsible one in Benin. The bakers will be 2 will rent a room for them in Te area about 3k a month. So they can be near by. More later ![]() |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by amdman: 3:25am On Apr 08, 2013 |
donpata: Instead of phasing out the low priced bread that's making you 10k daily (though with a lot of work) why don't you expand your production? That way, you keep making your 10k daily while you create another market for your more expensively priced bread. That's what I would do. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by LabellaOne(f): 2:02pm On Jul 01, 2013 |
Bakery business is serious business o...as in there is profit if it is managed properly, employing the right people. Nonny Brown Bakery and Café, establishing locations in Festac Town, Lagos, is looking for ambitious persons to fit into various positions. Positions - Bakers - Retail Sales Clerks The good thing about this is that they are supported under the federal government of Nigeria's YouWin Programme. That means there is massive room for growth. You can call 08109409507 or visit www.nonnybrown. webs.com/vacancy My neighbor just made an application. Thought it might interest someone. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by syllang(m): 1:04pm On Jul 08, 2013 |
[/url] bebe2: I love ur disposition on juju issue but it doesn't mean what you don't believe doesn't exist. That is just by the way. I'm sorry I am coming into the chat now n I hope I can still be of help. Managing a manufacturing business requires more than one line of expertise i.e It is one thing to know how to manufacture ur product n it is another thing to know how to run your business especially now that you are not even on ground personally. Without all details on how u presently run the business, there is not much I can do for now but One thing I can advise is that don't even think of these two things. 1. Folding up 2. Outright sales of d business You can contact me for a better chat or view my blog post on hiring manage from www.akinsolajegede. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by caprisegao: 3:42am On Aug 29, 2013 |
Dear sir , We are supplier of bakery equipment from China, we can offer complete set of bakery equipment.Feel free to contact me and I will send you price list . My email : sales01@shmooha.com My tel: 0086-18001788503
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Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by caprisegao: 3:51am On Sep 16, 2013 |
bebe2: hi NL, i have a bakery in benin city nigeria. it was opened in january and its been run by my sister. Hell sir ,we are bakery equipment supplier from China,I have some suggestions for you: 1.Print some Advertising Leaflets with good picture and price , and hand out to people nearby ,if you can offer delivery service ,within a certain distance and the bread reaches how much , you can offer free delivery service. 2.Make membership card ,offer some discount for the shop's member ,and special gift or discount for member's birthday cake,this may be attractive. 3.If people are not quite know your shop much or have not taste your bread before , you can offer “free try to eat " activity to subway,station or some places there are many people there (the good time is about 5 to 6 pm, this time ,people just off work and very hungry,they would like to get a try of free bread) ,this may lost you a few money ,but if your bread or cake are good flavor ,after people have tasted it ,they would like to pay for it in the future ,it is a long term business. 4.Usually ,shop here in China will have a big discount for bread at afternoon, to ensure sell fresh bread next day. 5.Special discount at some special holiday ,the discount can be : buy one get two, reaches 50 decrease 5 ect. Hope this can help you.
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Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by omobabaon: 6:57am On Sep 16, 2013 |
Hello madam I'm oluwaseun odunbaku.d ceo of bos bakery and ase oluwa bakery here in lagos and a branch in ogun state.I've posted a free intro on how to start dis business on nairaland business forum just go and read and call me if you have any qustion.or if you need aNyone like bakers or manager pls call me on 07069745558.thks and god bless |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by Originalsly: 8:25am On Sep 16, 2013 |
bebe2:If you did research you should know that N1200 investment would bring you N1200....unless something is wrong somewhere. Is this a fact?...or what you aere told? You seem to believe in your sister and I think she is not only mismanaging the business but has an attitude problem. Changing bakers so often should tell you she has a problem. Like most think...if you not there you can't succeed. I think your best option is what Bigheart suggested ..... rent out the bakery instead of selling. Eventually you will get your money back minus the stress. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by bebe2(f): 8:03pm On Sep 16, 2013 |
Originalsly: If you did research you should know that N1200 investment would bring you N1200....unless something is wrong somewhere. Is this a fact?...or what you aere told? You seem to believe in your sister and I think she is not only mismanaging the business but has an attitude problem. Changing bakers so often should tell you she has a problem. Like most think...if you not there you can't succeed. I think your best option is what Bigheart suggested ..... rent out the bakery instead of selling. Eventually you will get your money back minus the stress. Yeah am trying to rent it out. No Luck yet. I have given up, it was a dumb idea. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by Larrystan(f): 11:41am On Sep 17, 2013 |
Dats what i do 4 a living,in which i start small bt now in big form. The name of my bakery is God'mercy at iyana iba, Lagos. So i can help you to manage it with ur sister. Call me or email. 08022688375,leyom4@gmail.com |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by bebe2(f): 4:30pm On Sep 17, 2013 |
Larrystan: Dats what i do 4 a living,in which i start small bt now in big form. The name of my bakery is God'mercy at iyana iba, Lagos. So i can help you to manage it with ur sister. Call me or email. 08022688375,leyom4@gmail.com the bakery is in benin city, think dats one of its problems. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by Larrystan(f): 9:52pm On Sep 17, 2013 |
Ok, but bakery biz moves in Lagos |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by bebe2(f): 10:27pm On Sep 17, 2013 |
Larrystan: Ok, but bakery biz moves in Lagosi know, benin matter tire me. i have spent somuch money, am now in a state of shock. |
Re: Advice needed : How do I successfully manage my bakery In Nigeria from the UK?. by samueloyibo: 10:19am On Sep 02, 2014 |
I Guess Lot of People are Looking for Some Specialist Who are going to teach them More about bakery,,, and tips on How to manage a bakery Successfully, am Samuel Oyibo i have manage a bakery before ,, i have 10 years bakery experience ,, in case you wanna open open a bakery, You can me On +2348068494509... Or +2349098226332... thanks.. |
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