Where did morality come from?

How will atheists answer this question?

https://answersingenesis.org/morality/where-did-morality-come-from/

From the article:

WELL, THOSE “INGRAINED VALUES” HAVE BEEN PRESENT IN HUMANS SINCE GOD CREATED OUR FIRST PARENTS ABOUT 6,000 YEARS AGO, BUT NOT BECAUSE MORALITY EVOLVED

You're a young earth creationist?
You believe humans are 6000 years old?

Apatheist:

From the article:

You're a young earth creationist?
You believe humans are 6000 years old?

Yes. Don't you?

OLAADEGBU:

Yes. Don't you?

You're kidding, right?
What do you make of archaeological artifacts older than that?
What do you make of fossils?

Apatheist:

You're kidding, right?
What do you make of archaeological artifacts older than that?
What do you make of fossils?

Do you have faith in the dating methods used in determining the age of the fossils?

OLAADEGBU:

Do you have faith in the dating methods used in determining the age of the fossils?

Do you have "faith" that 1 + 1 is two?
Your answer to my question is mine to yours.

Apatheist:

Do you have "faith" that 1 + 1 is two?
Your answer to my question is mine to yours.

It depends on what level of Mathematics you're using.

OLAADEGBU:

It depends on what level of Mathematics you're using.

"level" or operation?

Apatheist:

"level" or operation?

You can say operation if that makes you happy.

OLAADEGBU:

You can say operation if that makes you happy.

That's the same answer to your question.

Apatheist:

That's the same answer to your question.

Does that mean you also operate on a level of faith?

OLAADEGBU:

Does that mean you also operate on a level of faith?

Faith?

Apatheist:

Faith?

Yes.

OLAADEGBU:

Yes.

Explain?

Apatheist:

Explain?

Only if you can explain the different "operations" in Mathematics where 2 + 2 may not necessarily equal to 4.

OLAADEGBU:

Only if you can explain the different "operations" in Mathematics where 2 + 2 may not necessarily equal to 4.

It's the exact same "levels" in which 2 +2 is not 4.

Apatheist:

It's the exact same "levels" in which 2 +2 is not 4.

And what are those levels if I may ask? Do you mind giving us examples?

OLAADEGBU:

And what are those levels if I may ask? Do you mind giving us examples?

You mentioned it first, sir.
You're in a better position to know.

Apatheist:

You mentioned it first, sir.
You're in a better position to know.

I certainly know that we both operate on different levels of faith.

What a discussion

*Off to read the article*

OLAADEGBU:

I certainly know that we both operate on different levels of faith.

Later.

EnlightenedSoul:

What a discussion

*Off to read the article*

Good idea. That will give you a good starting point.

OLAADEGBU:

Where did morality come from?

How will atheists answer this question?

https://answersingenesis.org/morality/where-did-morality-come-from/

Excerpts from the link:

"God created Adam and Eve in His own image and therefore with both an understanding of what was good and the choice to obey their Creator or to rebel against Him. Humans have not lost that sense of right and wrong, and we usually call that sense a conscience. Romans (2) explains how the moral standards people tend to impose on others proves they have a concept of right and wrong for which they are responsible, and that moral standard comes from the law of God expressed in the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20 and written on every human heart (Romans 2:14–16). But our propensity to ignore our conscience and sin leaves our moral sense—our conscience—marred, sometimes even seared (1 Timothy 4:2). Romans 1:18–28 indicates how the process of sinful rebellion hardens people’s hearts against godly morality.

Our sinful natures and our marred perception of right and wrong make our conscience an imperfect guide to morality. Therefore, we need the Word of God to truly know God’s authoritative standard by which each of our consciences is judged. As our Creator, God alone has that moral authority."

Later.

Later as in....?

OLAADEGBU:


Yes. Don't you?

There is more evidence that supports that the earth is Flat than there is for the earth being 6000years old. Get your facts straight, the earth is 4.6 billion years old.

As for morality, I must admit, its a hard question and not easy to answer, and i am pretty sure that different people would have different opinions on this but i watched NatGeoWild on a given sunday and i was inspired by what i saw, a baby elephant fell into a ditch and was struggling to come out, its herd (comprised of two mature elephants) were trying so hard to bring this baby elephant out but no prevail, then i saw another herd of elephants rushing from the other side to help out (apparently they saw what was going on and decided to lend a helping hand). A mature elephant now got into the ditch and was using its trunk to caress the baby elephant as the others were trying to drag it out(a move i read as telling the baby elephant to not be worried, everything would be ok), I was touched and inspired, my respect for those creatures went off the roof at that moment.

So what am i trying to say, well maybe we get our morality from the same place those elephants get theirs from, From the innate desire to LIVE peacefully, and help others in LIVING peacefully as well, and in doing so,hope that the same kindness would be shown unto you and your offsprings

As species evolve,so f=do their morals evolve. Dolphins for example will never kill humans. Wolves may fight but will never kill themselves,but humans kill humans. Our laws evolve,so do our morals. 100 years ago it was OK to hang black people in the US,but today it is a crime to hang anyone unjustly(except Nigeria where jungle justice still take place) Morality evolve with time.

donnffd:


There is more evidence that supports that the earth is Flat than there is for the earth being 6000years old. Get your facts straight, the earth is 4.6 billion years old.

What evidence? How did life originate?

donnffd:


As for morality, I must admit, its a hard question and not easy to answer, and i am pretty sure that different people would have different opinions on this but i watched NatGeoWild on a given sunday and i was inspired by what i saw, a baby elephant fell into a ditch and was struggling to come out, its herd (comprised of two mature elephants) were trying so hard to bring this baby elephant out but no prevail, then i saw another herd of elephants rushing from the other side to help out (apparently they saw what was going on and decided to lend a helping hand). A mature elephant now got into the ditch and was using its trunk to caress the baby elephant as the others were trying to drag it out(a move i read as telling the baby elephant to not be worried, everything would be ok), I was touched and inspired, my respect for those creatures went off the roof at that moment.

So what am i trying to say, well maybe we get our morality from the same place those elephants get theirs from, From the innate desire to LIVE peacefully, and help others in LIVING peacefully as well, and in doing so,hope that the same kindness would be shown unto you and your offsprings

Why don't you simply say 'I don't know? not maybe. That is why evolutionary theory is full of conjectures, assumptions and baseless unscientific theories which I will call fairytales for adults.

ifenes:


As species evolve,so f=do their morals evolve. Dolphins for example will never kill humans. Wolves may fight but will never kill themselves,but humans kill humans. Our laws evolve,so do our morals. 100 years ago it was OK to hang black people in the US,but today it is a crime to hang anyone unjustly(except Nigeria where jungle justice still take place) Morality evolve with time.

Since in your 'evolutionary universe' where people are just animals and murder is not different from a tiger killing a goat. Why should your morals evolve?

OLAADEGBU:


What evidence? How did life originate?



Why don't you simply say 'I don't know? not maybe. That is why evolutionary theory is full of conjectures, assumptions and baseless unscientific theories which I will call fairytales for adults.

SMH...dont have your energy!!!

OLAADEGBU:


Since in your 'evolutionary universe' where people are just animals and murder is not different from a tiger killing a goat. Why should your morals evolve?

Morals evolve due to experience. After the World War 2, the UNITED NATIONS and other similar agencies were created to make sure such an uncontrolled war will no happen again. Back in the days it was Okay to marry a 13 year old girl but now its all changed and enforced. To preserve our human species,morality need to evolve. You and I learn everyday from experiences.Our old ways become unacceptable and so morality evolves.

donnffd:


SMH...dont have your energy!!!

You better don't get me started.