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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:29pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
Come on now, guys. Are you serious right now? http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/boko-haram-leader-abubakar-shekau-warns-i-am-still-alive-latest-video-1468247 Leader of Nigerian terror group Boko Haram, Abubakar Shekau, has dismissed allegations that Nigerian troops killed him during clashes with the insurgents. In a video released on Thursday and obtained by news agency AFP, he confirms he is still alive and that his militants have implemented strict sharia laws in captured towns in northern Nigeria. "Here I am, alive. I will only die the day Allah takes my breath," Shekau said in the 36-minute-long video. Related Nigerian Girls' Mass Abduction: Who are Boko Haram Terrorists? Rumours of the leader's death spread after reports emerged that Boko Haram fighters were surrendering to Nigerian troops. Officials said that many Boko Haram members surrendered in Kodunga, Borno State, after days of fighting in which at least 60 insurgents were killed and another senior leader was captured. Unconfirmed reports also said that the group's leader, Abubakar Shekau, was killed during clashes in Kodunga. According to some, the man killed was Shekau's impersonator, not the leader himself. In the video, Shekau added that Boko Haram members were "running our... Islamic caliphate" and administering sharia punishments. Boko Haram declared an Islamic caliphate in Gwoza, along the Cameroon border, in August 2014. The group has been raiding several cities in the north of the country, in a bid to expand its caliphate. Borno, Yobe, and Adamawa states, where the militants usually carry out their attacks, have been under a state of emergency since May 2013. Human Rights Watch said Boko Haram has killed at least 2,053 people since the beginning of 2014. According to Western intelligence agencies, the militants are seeking to tighten their relationship with terror group Isis – now known as the Islamic State – which is giving them advice on strategy and tactics to expand the Islamic caliphate in north-eastern Nigeria. The group sparked worldwide outrage after it kidnapped 220 girls in Chibok, Borno State, in April 2014. After months of search operations conducted by both the Nigerian and foreign governments, the girls have not yet been found. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 2:32pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
Henry120:You mean this rubbish? Fact is,if you don't even know who's the leader of BH. Posting images of the dead doesn't change a thing. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:14pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
Henry120: Henry why post such rubbish, really? As a grown man, you should be ashamed. How on earth can they do DNA tests without an original specimen to compare with? Dental tests? Comparing what with what? This is not your finest hour. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:21pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
Job Masego, a member of the Native Military Corps during WW2, managed to blow up a cargo ship in the Tobruk docks. While captured by the Germans following Maj Gen Klopper’s surrender, Masego hid a tin of explosives in the fuel compartment of a cargo ship and was able to blow the vessel up. He was later awarded the Military Medal. He was recommended for a Victoria Cross, the highest honour for gallantry in combat, but in true backwards colonial fashion, this was denied because Masego was considered “just an African”. That he managed this feat solo, while imprisoned, appears to have been lost on his superior officers.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:23pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
SA Navy in the Mozambican channel
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:25pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
44 Parachute Battalion
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:15pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
Patchesagain: So the whole South African navy will be based at sea in West Africa with no harbours or air support? Who protects Mozambique channel and South Africa's massive 3,200 km ocean coastline that is now left unguarded and free for Indian ocean pirates to sail to Argentina without any challenge ! Fools, you sailed to West Africa to prove that pirates deserve free sailing in your own homeland oceans that have now been abandoned ! You Soweto guys are dumbos, your navy CANNOT abandon your entire nation and try to save West Africa that has anti-piracy power Nigeria operating with super cloud penetrating sea search satellites, coastal long range radar, massive air force of MPAs, massive fleet of deep sea fast interceptors, OPVs with stealth and long endurance cutters plus over ten other corvette sized ships all at the same time..... Then you carry your small navy of four frigates and a couple of OPV boats to labour in the farthest and best protected zone in Africa and expose your own country South Africa to become the new piracy route of lowest level of security in the world? You must be totally in.sane, your Soweto navy won't do that craaaaazy deployment and get your navy chief sacked by government. Angola and Namibia is as far as you will go ! Shattered dreams of Alice in wonderland ![]() ![]() . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:35pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
Patchesagain: Fool ![]() ![]() Artillery is an AREA weapon, it is not looking for one single point only, it targets the whole wide area, and artillery doctrine calls it AREA DENIAL, it denies you access and presence in a whole wide area. Nigeria has 50 units of mobile and movable vehicle mounted Palmaria artillery with 24km range. 50 x 24 km = 1,200 km The whole Nigerian coastal line is only 850 km. Add 73 Mobile FH-77 artillery, we cover our coastline perimeter FOUR TIMES over ! Nigeria has excess artilley power for our small 850km coastline ! Every minute, Nigerian army area denial artillery will carpet cover and plaster the N, E, S, W four cardinal points of your helpless, defenseless, and terrified Valour Frigates with 1,000 artillery shells spread like an umbrella of death over your warships....Go ask @Andrewza why he said South African navy will sail 50km away from Nigerian coast, the man saw sudden d.eath by artillery and he ran away before he loses Mandela's shiny navy in one day ![]() ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 5:04pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
Patchesagain: Oh ! Beegeagle is now your source ? You just proved he is credible and knowledgeable. Thanks. The Hawk jets of South African air force delivered around 2005 are the same obsolete Hawk jets that entered service in Britain 1973....yes or no ? #Self Trap Again. Russia introduced Mi-171sh Terminator into world market around 2002 and that is very different from the ordinary Mi-17 or Mi-8 helicopters, those old birds are NOT Terminators. NAF is getting year 2014 Terminator combat-transport helicopters to add to the 2003 Terminators we got before. 30 current + 40 Russia mixed new bulk order + 12 Hind E + 12 Belarus Hinds new order = 94 combat helicopters for Nigeria by the time all arrive delivered. Soweto Air Force is stuck and fvcked with 10 weak Rooivalks till infinity o ! ![]() ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 5:11pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
DieVluit: SA Navy in the Mozambican channel.... Where your Frigates chased pirated and couldn't catch up with their speed ![]() South African navy caught Crabs and Fishes instead....and plenty Crayfish ![]() . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 5:19pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
Patchesagain: I can say better, not same ! Nigerian navy is 100 times superior to South African navy in patrol capacity. NNS Thunder or NNS Okpabana can each sail from Lagos to Cape Town to Cairo and back home to Lagos on one single fuel tank without stopping to beg for refuel like South Africa must do. That is a world class blue water navy patrol non-stop round trip ! Can you say the same for South African navy? . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:52pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: Area effect does not work on water Argument destroyed with a single sentence |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:54pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: But they don't do that Meanwhile we will patrol your waters Argument destroyed with 2 sentences 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:55pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: Piracy in the Mozambique channel dropped by 100% after we deployed there Argument destroyed with 1 sentence 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:57pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: Imaginary numbers for an imaginary Airforce What numbers does SIPRI record again? 2 sentences = argument destroyed This is too easy |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 7:28pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
patches689: Current SIPRI records end on December 31, 2013....you dummy ![]() All Nigerian weapons and equipment ordered or received from January 1, 2014 till today are NOT recorded by SIPRI, or you see Big Foot MRAP, Spartan APC, Mi-35M Hind E, etc on SIPRI outdated database? Keep ranting, it's fun to see you kolomental about Nigeria ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 7:32pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
patches689: "We will" ... that's future tense! You will wait until Jesus comes to see your dream boats patrol Nigerian waters!! I wonder what you take the NN for? Awe and Shock awaits you before you even go past Namibian and Angolan waters. Stop being a joker! It makes you look and sound worse than a circus clown. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 7:33pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
patches689: Go read war history and calculate how many British-American navy warships and vessels were sunk by German army coastal artillery during invasion of France at Normandy. You seem to be better on a Police Vs Robbers thread, we might soon create one for you....Domingo Durango ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 7:56pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
This news report aptly paints the sad picture of the poor capacity of SANDF, Park Rangers, and South African Police to tackle the poaching menace in your porous National Parks. This story confirms what we've always mentioned to you South Africans. Countries like Botswana have more disciplined and better trained Security and Defence personnel than your weak SANDF. That is why South Africa has begun the mass movement of Rhinos in planes to neighbouring Botswana. Ever wondered why poaching cannot happen in Botswana? The story below is self explanatory. Happy reading. =============================== [size=13pt]100 rhinos to be jetted by plane in life-saving mission[/size] (CNN) -- It's been a bad year for the African rhino, particularly for those that call South Africa home. In 2013, over 1,000 rhinos were poached in South Africa alone. It's a dangerously high number, when you consider there are only 5,000 black rhinos left on the continent (a 97.6% reduction since 1960). The white rhino story is a happier tale. Rescued from the brink of extinction, the species now numbers 20,000 -- though conservationists worry they too are in danger, as rhino horn continues to sell for a hefty sum on the black market. "A rhino is killed every seven hours, and when you mention rhinos to anyone, they tend to shake their head in desperation," says Dereck Joubert, who, along with his wife Beverly set up Rhinos Without Borders, a charity that has recently come up with a novel approach to saving one of Africa's most iconic creatures. In 2015, the charity will move 100 rhinos from South Africa -- which holds 80% of Africa's rhino population -- to Botswana, which has the lowest poaching rate in the continent. The rhinos are mainly donated from private sellers and the South African government. "It's a bad idea to keep all your high-value assets in one place. Ecologically and genetically, it makes a lot of sense to spread them around, so if there's a catastrophic event in one place, you don't lose everything," he explains. Botswana: 'Shoot to kill' One of the reason's Botswana's poaching levels are so low is that they have zero tolerance when it comes to poachers. Anti-poaching is handled by the Botswana Defense Force, who have a "shoot to kill" policy. "If poachers are apprehended, and don't immediately put down their weapons, the military basically treats them like an aggressive military threat," Joubert notes. "The risks are very high for poachers, and the rewards are very low." Botswana is also more remote and less populous -- two factors that he says helps keep poaching at a minimum. "A group of foreigners walking through with AK47s are very quickly identified," he explains. Making the move Rhinos Without Borders has partnered with tourism venture andBeyond, who moved rhinos from one of their private reserves to Botswana in 2011. Rhino candidates are sedated and their blood samples studied to make sure they're strong enough to make the trip. The rhinos then recover during a six-week quarantine before they're moved by plane to a secret location in Botswana. "They won't be going in reserves near the borders either, because the president and the Botswana Defense Force don't want to attract poachers," explains Beverly Joubert. Because rhinos' first instinct is to seek out other herds, and Botswana has a low density of the species, synthesized rhino dung is used to help the relocated animals establish their territory. The process costs about $45,000 per rhino. Busting the horn myth Rhinos are killed almost exclusively for their horn, which currently sells for $65,000 per kilo (2.2 pounds). The demand is driven primarily by buyers in East Asia, who (inaccurately) ascribe various medicinal cure-alls to the horn. In addition to running their charity, the Jouberts are also filmmakers and photojournalists for National Geographic. Together, they have made several films dispelling the myths concerning rhino horn's supposed medicinal properties, in the hopes of changing attitudes abroad. "It's been claimed that rhino horn cures cancer, reduces fevers and is an aphrodisiac, and it's been proven that none of those things are true," says Beverly. "Really, it's like chewing your own finger nail. It's carotene, that is all." The ivory link The history of the rhino horn trade is closely intertwined with that of the ivory trade. In 1989, the Contention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) succeeded in implementing an international ban on ivory. The price for the material crashed overnight and poaching of elephants mainly came to a halt. In 2002, trade opened back up when a handful of nations, including South Africa, were allowed to sell their ivory stockpiles. "The minute that happened, we saw an influx of poachers. At the same time, the market shifted straight across to include rhinos as well," says Dereck. Some conservationists have proposed farming elephants and rhinos to meet the global demand -- an idea the Jouberts view as hopelessly misguided. "If the strategy is to flood the market, the economics don't add up," he says. "Maybe you could produce 6kg of horn a month from farming, but the market is over a billion strong." ============ http://www.abc-7.com/story/26507673/100-rhinos-to-be-jetted-by-plane-in-life-saving-mission 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:13pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
SANDF cannot shoot to kill poachers talkless of Seleka rebels ... yet they want to project false power on the high waters of the Gulf of Guinea? #drowningInBlueBurialWaters 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:19pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
Even rodents are posing a huge threat to South African security? Check out the latest headline on SA's war on rats ================ http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2014/09/30/johannesburg-sets-aside-r2.5-million-in-war-on-rats |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 8:54pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
NaijaPikinGidi: Butt-hurt What will your NN do? engage frigates? engage subs? There is nothing in the world you will ever do.... Nothing, just swallow your butt-hurt and go to sleep. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:54pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
South Africans ... they badmouth China yet they cannot do without the very same China. They badmouth France, yet almost everything "energy" in South Africa is French. They badmouth the Russians yet fail to do without Russian assistance to build Nuclear plant. Yet, when these countries complete each project ... they are quick to falsely own the finished work and call it 100% South African. ====== [...] Although the government does not officially use the phrase “geopolitical decision-making”, various insiders say that is the key to understanding the nuclear process. South Africa is intent on cementing partnerships with the Brics (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) countries; it has previously favoured Brazil for the mass roll-out of set-top boxes to make current television sets capable of handling digital broadcasts after the switch-over from analogue (although that deal went sour). Russia appears to be favoured for the nuclear build, and some say China can expect the lion’s share of the riches expected from shale gas extraction by fracking in the Karoo. Two ANC MPs who are senior party leaders said the same way the Russia deal was pre-agreed by political heads, South Africa has already entered into an agreement with China over shale gas. “We can’t be seen buying things from the West,” the one said, and the other pointed out that the ANC is loyal to those countries that supported it during the struggle. [...] ===== http://mg.co.za/article/2014-10-02-nuke-deal-russians-push-charm-button |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 8:55pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
NaijaPikinGidi: SANDF cannot shoot to kill poachers talkless of Seleka rebels ... yet they want to project false power on the high waters of the Gulf of Guinea? Blowing off steam on both your ends... Butt-hurt... |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:55pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
GreenandGold: Gibberish. Not my fault you have an empty skull. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:57pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
GreenandGold: Still searching for your brain? Not my fault you lost it. Try harder!! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 9:03pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
NaijaPikinGidi: Off course, there's nothing to say. You feel undermined that the SAN is about to patrol your neighborhood and the rest of the SANDF could deploy in conflict zones, possibly closer to Nigeria. We moving our troops closer to you and there is nothing you will ever do besides blowing off steam. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:08pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
GreenandGold: You already came twice, what did you do? You ran away on both occassions. First 2011 South African navy sailed SAS Drakensberg with combat helicopters and special forces to Ivory Coast while NAF jets were in Abidjan, we used one phone call to scare your big warship away in one day ![]() Second time South African army came to C.A.R. Bangui just beside Cameroon Nigeria's immediate neighbour, how did it end? Your fancy uniform army got bruised battered and chased to the nearest airport to catch the next available flight back home. Third time is next year, if you have enough diesel by then, we will hear another funny story again about why you fail on military mission. Born nation of cowards ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:11pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
NaijaPikinGidi: South Africans ... they badmouth China yet they cannot do without the very same China. They badmouth France, yet almost everything "energy" in South Africa is French. They badmouth the Russians yet fail to do without Russian assistance to build Nuclear plant. Yet, when these countries complete each project ... they are quick to falsely own the finished work and call it 100% South African. South African economy is no longer ruled by Boer-Whitemen alone, Russia-France-China are now joint rulers sucking South Africa's wealth dry ![]() . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 10:14pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
GreenandGold: Perpetual numbskull. Glad you accept you have nothing to say! Finito. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:15pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
NaijaPikinGidi: Even rodents are posing a huge threat to South African security? Check out the latest headline on SA's war on rats Rats invade South Africa? This is where they need poachers o! Rat poachers please go rescue South Africa and use their surplus rat meat to bake Rat-Meat-Burgers for the poor hungry blacks in Soweto ! ![]() . . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 10:17pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
agaugust: Na today? |
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