ayo4dworld:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn 'sacrifice' ....so you are to do the sacrifice every year. So what's d significance of Jesus coming and crucifixion if you still in indulge in this practice. God help us. 'The truth needs to be told' for freedom purposes...John 8:32

Tell me the significance of that brutal blood sacrifice.

maylisa:
is the old testament not a bible. I feel sorry for people like you, learn and know your religion don't just profess it.

evry1 truly has one problem or d oda...
as long as m not a muslim.......does not mean i shud waste dier food....
dats y Nigeria is falling......deres no love even among christians anymore....
m bery sure if jesus christ was on earth .he will eat d meat..

Sanchez01:

Lolz, you sure made light of the thread.

Back to the topic, OP, it is not right. As a matter of fact, sharing from the meat is the same as alluding to their deity and object of worship.

An example is seen in Daniel and the three Hebrew boys who refused to pollute themselves with the 'king's meat'. It is wrong to eat of the meat.

'their deity & object of worship'. who is their deity and what is muslim's object of worship? find answers to this yourself and you can judge yourself later, make research about Christianity and islam, the similarities, the differences, the meaning of the arabic word 'Allah' which muslims normally uses, and you can quote when you find d answer. Ignorance is what is killing most of you people, you dont know more than what you were spoon fed.

khadysaggs:
Yes can you imagine calling ileya idolatory like seriously yOu guys are not cristns because the origin is right there in the old tesmnt of the bible

when abraham sacrificed a ram at moriah, god never declared that you guys should continue killing meat but you guys just choose to do so out of utter gluttony!

[quote author=calaharry post=26872047]
...Do you know that theology is an amalgam of truth and philosophies? Go and research its evolution. The Bible is the only incorruptible book ever reliable.[/quote chai! Oniro buruku.the bible dey corrupt pass any book.last 2 years bible dey different from this year's bible.take your time and u'll see that some things have been changed.wetin I dey yarn sure me die,

Misogynist2014:
ållah was one of the several gods worshipped in Arabia, in Muhammad's time, he was the chief god.
1.There is absolutely no question that Allah was worshipped by the pagan Arabs as one of many polytheistic gods.
2.Allah was worshipped in the Kabah at Mecca before Muhammad was born. Muhammad merely proclaimed a god the Meccans were already familiar with. The pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped.
3.Many scholars say "Allah" is derived from a compound Arabic word, AL + ILAH = Allah. "Ilah" in Arabic is "God" and "Al" in Arabic is a definite article like our word "the". So from an English equivalent "Allah" comes from "The + God". Others, like Arthur Jeffery say, "The common theory is that it is formed from ilah, the common word for a god, and the article al-; thus al-ilah, the god," becomes Allah, "God." This theory, however, is untenable. In fact, the name is one of the words borrowed into the language in pre-Islamic times from Aramaic." ( Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85)
4.Although "Allah" has become known as the proper name for the Muslim god, Allah is not a name, but a descriptor that means literally, "the god". All pagan cultures have these generic terms that refer to their "top god" as "the god". In comparison to the perfect monotheism of Judaism and Christianity, "Allah" was originally no more a proper name for the Muslim God, than the word Hebrew "elohim" (god) or Greek "theos" (god) are proper names of the one true God of the Bible. "Jehovah" is the only revealed proper name for the "Elohim" of the Old Testament ( Ex 3:13; 6:3) and "Jesus" is the only revealed proper name of "Theos" in the New Testament. (Acts 4:12) Islam has no proper name for their god, but merely transformed, by universal use and confusion, the generic Allah into a proper name. So although today, Muslims use "Allah" as a proper name, it was never used this way originally. Allah, therefore is equivalent to "elohim" and "ho theos" but not "Jehovah" or "Jesus". Allah is not the name of the nameless Muslim God. However Muslims will claim that Allah is the name of God that corresponds to Jehovah. Both the Father and the Son are called "ho theos" (The God). Jesus is called "The God" many times in the New Testament: John 20:28; Heb 1:8. An important conclusion from this, is that the mere fact that "Allah" is equivalent to "elohim" and "ho theos" does not mean they are directly corresponded. It certainly doesn’t prove Allah is the same as the God of the Old or New Testament. It does not prove that Muslim’s worship the same God as Christians. If this correspondence proved the Muslim god was the same as the Christian God, then because pagan religions also have generics that correspond to "the god" (Allah), this correspondence would also prove that Allah is the same god as the Buddhist god, for Buddhists also refer to their god as "the god". http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Islamic%20Muslim/allah_is_a_fraud.htm

Its funny how much your confusion has blinded you. the arabian pagan neva accused mohammed of preaching a different allah seriously u are delusional. do ur teachers reminded you he fought several wars with this people during his lifetime? that he was chased out of mecca to another town medina for several years? why? find out urself, this time read from a neutral source, not a biased one that will continue to push you to wilderness, they told u Allah means God, but are still manipulating u because it does not means d trinity, read more my dear friend, like i said earlier, from a neutral source.

CANTICLES:
.... Wow! U really talk sense, Our God is loving , He will never allow Abraham to sacrifice his only son ! dis so much Loving God will Neva allow Abraham to sacrifice his son .... Yet most churches have blasphem him by sayin he roast his own creatures ! His own creatures in a non-existing hell ! What a blasphemy, " somtin that neva come into his hearttttt" Jer 7:31; 19:5; 32:35 !!! Bro, about christmas ... I personaly agree with you and for your info I DONT DO IT

the bible speaks categorically about heaven and hell. Not some "pastors". Clear d sentiments from your eyes. Sin wont enter heaven.

Dos of u dat call islamic religion an idolatory religion er sumaw senseless, sowi 2 say cos let assume u r not senseless u won't say dat. Especially dos dat said d ram killed is 4 idols definitely d chicken killed 4 Xmas is d xam so u guys 2 in idolatory religion

Emmaomotob:
Dear Seun,
It is so sad that you allow moderators like maclatunji(or whatever his name is ) to exist on Nairaland. This sentimental moderator, that thinks he is doing the will of his god just banned one of my nairaland accounts.
Its so sad that when websites gain prominence, they begin to treat users with utter disdain. No one has the right to hide any post if the post has OBJECTIVE backing, just the way atheists attack God, because they can back their posts.
With due respect, considering the fact that you employed 'this' moderator, I hereby plead with you, as a law abiding Nairalander, that Misogynist2014, should be unblocked. I sincerely and eagerly wait for your much needed response.
Yours Sincerely,
Emmaomotob.

this plea was from your heart.
The sincere heart-felt begging of a nairander availeth much.

Angelou:
when abraham sacrificed a ram at moriah, god never declared that you guys should continue killing meat but you guys just choose to do so out of utter gluttony!

Your beleive dint teach you that you should be celebrating that moment annually in a similar way, i respect that, our religion taught us so, it shouldnt be difficult for you to respect also, nobody is forcing any of you to eat the meat, if u want to celebrate with us, enjoy ur piece of meat either fried or cooked, if you dont want, stay in your house and enjoy the holiday in peace, i celebrate Christmas with my christian friends, we eat the rice and chicken and hang out 2geda, some muslims dont and thats nobody's prob, btw if u want to know more about the celebratn read, read and read, from neutral sources.

realbee:


Your beleive dint teach you that you should be celebrating that moment annually in a similar way, i respect that, our religion taught us so, it shouldnt be difficult for you to respect also, nobody is forcing any of you to eat the meat, if u want to celebrate with us, enjoy ur piece of meat either fried or cooked, if you dont want, stay in your house and enjoy the holiday in peace, i celebrate Christmas with my christian friends, we eat the rice and chicken and hang out 2geda, some muslims dont and thats nobody's prob, btw if u want to know more about the celebratn read, read and read, from neutral sources.

now dats ma point!

Dicey ish.
But i thnk the line isnt set in stone.
Say one has a muslim friend who is drawg close to him. They ar friendly and buddy buddy, then 1 day the muslim offers him,his illeya meat.
He cud reject or accept. If he rejects,the friend mayb so hurt tht their friendship which was buddg dies off.
If he accepts,the friendship cud bloom to a stage where they cud talk to each other mor openly about their religions. And the christian may win a soul for christ.

Jesus ate /dined with tax collectors (crooked dubious ppl),prostitutes , sinners so he cud win them.

Paul spoke to the greeks by quoting one of their heathen poets.
That got their attention.
Paul didnt just barge in screaming REPENT O! HELL FIRE HELL FIRE!
wisdom is required.

Am more confused now. i need scriptural reference.


1 cor 8 vs 4

asalimpo:


the bible speaks categorically about heaven and hell. Not some "pastors". Clear d sentiments from your eyes. Sin wont enter heaven.

...... I dont practice sin , and am not an advocate for sin !!! Yet anything that blasphem d loving qualities of my God must be rejected, dat devilish doctrine makes him cruel and worst dan Nebuchadnezzar and Adolf Hitler, wicked men who burn fellow humans in fiery fire .. , no wonda Atheists are growing everyday !! ... For ur info, the scriptures was written in Hebrew and Greek languages and the word " hell" or " hellfire" neva appears , it was a late invention by the apostate catholic church! As for siners their wages is this " the wages sin pays is Death" ! Rom 6:23 , no wonda Adam and Eve were sentenced to death ( Gen 2:17; 3:19) , can u pls show d bible verse dat says God throw Adam and Eve in hellfire ??

donroxy:
Hero Lagbara olorun ama ri ohun rere ba ara wa she and Pounded Yam of Sweet Potatoes is the dish of my town .... I would have love to roll 'em out for you !
No hating , Jesus Preach Love, Love and Love and Thanks to Hon. Chairman of Agege for representing the muslim Hummah through sharing Love .... May you continue to go higher IJN !!!

Amen and Amen !!
Thanks bro.. :-)
Jesus preached Love and showed examples through out.
Tis the deluded ignoramus faithfuls that created a favourably environment for the athiests to breed.

Have a good night rest.

[quote author=olaweey post=26889680][/quote]
ignorance

wow, this thread got up to fifteen pages. just....wow.

michaelwestern:
Am not really sure if its okay for christians to eat ileya meat. Some people will call it food offered to idols, but the bible permits us to eat any kind of meat. So is it okay to eat ileya meat?

am sooo proud to be a MUSLIM...if u dont eat it...who cares Its not as if it add values to we the muslims lives anyway...I bear witness that theres only one God and Muhammad is His messenger..

Your smelling

habiolah:

wish I have your time. claiming knowledgeable.
the simple question don turn religious argument.
btw, why muslims dey answer when d question was asked about christisns and their doctrines? and yet you guys wont even let them wish you barka de sallah without swearing allegiance to islam.
yeye de smell.

tbaba1234:


Tell me the significance of that brutal blood sacrifice.

For the remission of our sins. To reunite us with the Father. To mend our broken fellowship with God. To give us life abundantly. I can go on and on

na must say i go use laptop b4 i create topic 4 nairaland?

Abexgal:
Dos of u dat call islamic religion an idolatory religion er sumaw senseless, sowi 2 say cos let assume u r not senseless u won't say dat. Especially dos dat said d ram killed is 4 idols definitely d chicken killed 4 Xmas is d xam so u guys 2 in idolatory religion

You can use whatsoever you have to celebrate xmas not necessarily chicken, it's just that we have make it a norm in Africa. Many of the xmas chicken are even killed from the market so there is nothing to hide. But killing of rams is doctrinal to muslims and there are many funny things that occur on the ram even before its been killed. So why wont it be refferred as a meat to idols.

asalimpo:
Dicey ish.
But i thnk the line isnt set in stone.
Say one has a muslim friend who is drawg close to him. They ar friendly and buddy buddy, then 1 day the muslim offers him,his illeya meat.
He cud reject or accept. If he rejects,the friend mayb so hurt tht their friendship which was buddg dies off.
If he accepts,the friendship cud bloom to a stage where they cud talk to each other mor openly about their religions. And the christian may win a soul for christ.

Jesus ate /dined with tax collectors (crooked dubious ppl),prostitutes , sinners so he cud win them.

Paul spoke to the greeks by quoting one of their heathen poets.
That got their attention.
Paul didnt just barge in screaming REPENT O! HELL FIRE HELL FIRE!
wisdom is required.

Because Jesus dined with Zaccheus does not mean He dined with all of the tax collectors and sinners. Don't forget that Zaccheus was the one who sought Jesus first by climbing a sycamore tree to see Jesus. Remember what Psalm 1 said in case you have forgotten. GBU!

realbee:


Its funny how much your confusion has blinded you. the arabian pagan neva accused mohammed of preaching a different allah seriously u are delusional. do ur teachers reminded you he fought several wars with this people during his lifetime? that he was chased out of mecca to another town medina for several years? why? find out urself, this time read from a neutral source, not a biased one that will continue to push you to wilderness, they told u Allah means God, but are still manipulating u because it does not means d trinity, read more my dear friend, like i said earlier, from a neutral source.

was jesus not chased away by his people? jesus was killed by his own people so u aint gat point

CANTICLES:
Anyway, this is a funny thread ... Back to business : u guyz need to answer this two questions .... 1. Will muslims celebrate 'ileya' if assuming Abraham sacrifice his firstborn ?? ( coz that would mean firstborns will b roasted for ileya festival) If NO, y do it bcoz its a ram ! 2. Did Abraham even eat the ram after offering the sacrifice ??

lol, brother you funny ooo. you said assuming stop assuming and face reality jare...does that means that assuming your jesus never died on the cross, you will remain a sinner till you die?? as for the 2nd question, abraham was a prophet, we are told to emulate him and that neither the blood or the meat of what we kill gets to Allah but our PIETY....

[quote author=olaweey post=26889680][/quote] abeg make una go read songs of solomon...unah go sabi how to toast girl weh weh...the whole songs of solomon can never be the word of God..

kolamilan:
God, forgive them coz they know not what they are posting.

this is wot i saw in my area yesterday

yinkusnoni:
lol, brother you funny ooo. you said assuming stop assuming and face reality jare...does that means that assuming your jesus never died on the cross, you will remain a sinner till you die?? as for the 2nd question, abraham was a prophet, we are told to emulate him and that neither the blood or the meat of what we kill gets to Allah but our PIETY....

dont mind dat guy,may be he should read mathew 5:17 where jesus said he did not come to abolish d law(old testerment)or d prophet but to fulfill it.i jesus can say that ,so y r dey blaming muslims for continuing what abraham did

Even if it has become a norm yet it is not scriptural that chicken was killed on the day Jesus Christ was born. People, I believe, began that tradition because it is a holiday. About the Ileya meat, the sacrifice of the ram is compulsory for Muslims to commemorate the feast involved. No matter how we beat around the bush, the Islam god is not the true God and Christians are not supposed to eat that meat cos it was offered to an idol. The early church admonished us on this so please do not be deceived.

khadysaggs:
Your smelling

lame response madam

Apostle Paul in 1Cor 8:1-13 tackled this issue head on. According to him, he didn't see anything wrong in eating meat offered to idols since there is only one God through his son Jesus Christ and so idols are nothing: However, he warned well grounded christians like him to be careful and cautious as their actions might cause weaker christians to sin or think less of their christian faith.
For example, if you see your well-annointed and spirit-filled church Pastor in a beer parlour cooling down with some bottles of beer, you'll agree with me that you may want to begin to question the genuineness of his christian belief considering his status but meanwhile taking alcohol in itself does not necessarily amount to sin.
This is what Apostle Paul was trying to point out that though we have this freedom in Christ, we should nevertheless be careful and restrain ourselves less our weaker christian brothers and sisters think less of their faith and thereby commit sin through us.
Hence, from Apostle Paul explanation, it is quite clear that eating ileya meat MAY or MAY NOT be sin depending on the situation. In fact, in verse 13 of that chapter, Apostle paul summarised his own decision.

ayo4dworld:
For the remission of our sins. To reunite us with the Father. To mend our broken fellowship with God. To give us life abundantly. I can go on and on

You mean God can not just forgive... He needs a blood sacrifice of an innocent man.. Does that make sense to you

If I want to forgive you, I do.. no one has to die for me to forgive you..