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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 11:01pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
aderonila18: and its so annoying how so many abnormal people think these things are normal. |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 11:03pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: haha what's your problem with "smart" |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by aderonila18: 11:11pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
swaggzo: It's really annoying. That is why I try to preach to fellow women and men in our generation that the way to change the society is to change how we raise our children. My daughter will wash the car and my son will cook...etc no daughter of mine will be serving her brother or cleaning up after him, she's no ones maid and neither is he handicapped. Plus the children will see their dad cooking and pulling his weight around the house. 1 Like |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Misogynist2014(m): 11:21pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:There is nothing bad in wishing you goodluck. Which work do you do in Ger? 1 Like |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by TV01(m): 11:28pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
Shirley07:Death and sickness were also consequences of the fall no? Presumably you have never been to a funeral or don't understand the concept of a hospital or medicine. Or do they just affect unbelievers. Your theology is so flawed, it's not even fun rinsing you ! Shirley07:Preachers in the OT - The bible clearly states that it is a curse/ill sign when women and the young rule. Shirley07:Paul championed slavery? Really? Why don't you just reject the bible? Be honest with yourself, your a feminist first and foremost. You just covet the pious feeling that comes from being able to consider yourself spiritual . Shirley07:Man was first. Woman was always created first and foremost as a helpmeet to man Shirley07:Nope,Paul said the woman was "deceived". They both sinned, but it was the womans nature - and she never recieved the commandment direct from God, which is also saying something - . 1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.they made her more susceptible Shirley07:Be quiet woman. You are out of your depth and know not of what you speak. Does your statement above even make sense Shirley07:Child-bearing is salvific? And Paul preached this? Or are the following not from Pauls epistles? Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Colossians 3:11 - where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcised nor uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave nor free, but Christ is all and in all. Shirley07:You are not even funny. Pauls disciple? 1 Corinthians 12 Now I say this, that each of you says, "I am of Paul," or "I am of Apollos," or "I am of Cephas," or "I am of Christ." 13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? Shirley07:Say what you like. The epistles of Paul are inspired and very instructive parts of the biblical canon. You are confused. Badly. Shirley07:He didn't Shirley07:Now you are just ranting - people who accept the Pauline epistles believe women should have no role in society and champion women slavery? Do you think about what you believe or consider what you say? Do you hate being a woman so much? We know what your desire has been from Genesis 3 - but we rulin' over you - learn to live with it and be at peace ! Shirley07:Your grammar is quite painful too. "Treat each other like themselves" ! Shirley07:You are so blinkered. So everyone submits to everyone else? How often is that trotted out to try and obviate the clear "wives submit to husbands" instruction. First, was it not Paul who wrote both? Second, why take one out of context to render another null. Feminianity - because female emotions, lusts, desires and confusion like holy too . Shirley07, please for the sake of the easily impressionable drop the mic and vacate the pulpit. Not only is it wrong, you are not gifted ! TV 1 Like |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Misogynist2014(m): 11:45pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
bukatyne:Teaching boys this stuff will only make them independent of women. I think you guys don't know that men are better than women. My dad is a better cook than mom and seldom comes to kitchen. Swaggzo, 'moral suation' is the only hope. TRYING TO CHANGE NATURAL INSTINCT WILL BACKFIRE. TEACHING BOYS TO BE SOUND IN HOUSE CHORES DOESN'T MEAN HE'S GONNA ASSIST HIS WIVES. I THINK OBJECTIFICATION OF WOMEN IS A BETTER TOPIC. I THANK GOD THAT FEMINISM IS DORMANT IN NIG. 1 Like |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Shirley07: 1:21am On Oct 16, 2014 |
TV01:You really love that verse, don't you? But you should be striving to understand that verse instead of quoting it for the sake it. In that verse, Paul said once saved, we're one in Christ'. You're really a disgrace to the christendom. And At your age, if you don't know the death God implied is a spiritual death, then you're obviously twisted. The scripture says the soul that sinneth dies and that Christ came to give us life. Obviously, you aint smart enough to grasp that. Just like I've been teaching you thus far, the garden of Eden was meant to be Adam and Eve's everlasting haven and their souls were living souls which is in tune with God's spirit, until they sinned. After man sinned, the living soul died and they were driven out of the garden. However, through Christ's death, dead soul were renewed and a new earth was promised to us all. The new earth is synonymous to the garden of Eden, where God's spirit dwells and he will be the light for all, just like it was before man sinned. The truth is, this earth is a sinful world and therefore, not conducive for believers and that's why a new earth will be created for the believers. Let me also repeat it to you that Deborah wasn't only a judge and a preacher but also, she led the israelites in the right way of God. If you can't accept that, you can as well go and die. And no, I can't reject the bible. Infact, Christ's words in the scriptures are my watchward. Even Paul said believers should look unto Jesus, the authour and finisher of our faith and like I said earlier, there's nothing Christ didn't preach about. You know what? I know my heaven is sure as long as I adhere to Christ's commandments and accept him as my lord and saviour but you can't say the same for yourself since you follows Paul's bigotry doctrines. Lastly, Christ made it known that 'Except ye be like little children, ye shall not enter the kingdom of God..'. That answers your question on why all christian should submit to one another in love. Infact, love is a submissive act because without it, Christ wouldn't humble himself to come down to this sinful world and die. Without love, Christ won't stoop so low to wash his disciples' feet. Without love, there won't be salvation, my junior scholar! 2 Likes |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by pickabeau1: 3:49am On Oct 16, 2014 |
Anyone that imbibes Shirley doctrines has herself to blame 1 Like |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by babygirlfl: 7:41am On Oct 16, 2014 |
swaggzo: Abnormal families produce abnormal people. 1 Like |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by bukatyne(f): 10:42am On Oct 16, 2014 |
bukatyne: @pickabeau1, This was my first comments and thoughts. Was there something in particular you wanted my thoughts on? |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by bukatyne(f): 10:45am On Oct 16, 2014 |
Misogynist2014: Okaay |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by pickabeau1: 10:52am On Oct 16, 2014 |
bukatyne: Not on the thread per se But the points laid out by shirley on Paul endorsing slavery etc |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by bukatyne(f): 11:19am On Oct 16, 2014 |
pickabeau1: Of late, I just kind of comment and blank out a thread or un-follow Honestly, I did not even read their conversation. @Paul: He was one controversial apostle. I am sure it was one of his punishments as a result of his former life . He has been so misinterpreted and twisted to suit all sides of the divide... |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by pickabeau1: 11:42am On Oct 16, 2014 |
bukatyne: LOL.. i get he is controversial especially on the women not to talk in church bit but i dont see how he justified slavery at all What is your opinion on the debate so far between myself and Shirley |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by bukatyne(f): 11:45am On Oct 16, 2014 |
pickabeau1: I would have to read it up. I will do so and comment later Thanks |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by TV01(m): 11:47am On Oct 16, 2014 |
Shirley07:Are you going to answer any of the questions or actually quote any scripture? Or are you just going to spew your hallucinatory interpretations of the gospel Your claim - "Paul championed slavery and the slavery of women to men" Shirley07: Shirley07: Shirley07:Shirley07, it's clear that like CarefreeWannabe, you haven't actually read and understood the bible in context for yourself - even literally, let alone with deep spiritual insight. You probably learnt from the same "theologian" Look, here's an example of Paul telling husbands to make slaves of their wives - and treat them harshly - sacrificing them even Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her When Paul gave that exhortation it was ground-breaking. Over 2'000 years ago, women in most civilisations/communities were considered chattel. Property. Yes, in a way as slaves. Paul via the gospel exhorted Christians to something higher, honouring and loving women as equals. Even today, in many civilisations and communities this is still not the case. And for those were it is or it is more so, guess what? They have Judeo-Christian foundations. And they are probably the same ones that allow the freedon that spawned your virulant feminism . When people like yourself go around calling Paul a bigot and a champion of slavery generally and husband-wife slavery in particular you do a grave injustice and great damage to those that take this as truth - not just in the present, but for all eternity. And as this aspect of your theology is twisted, so your whole understanding is perverted. I rarely plead with people, but Shirley07, you need to seek help - of the spiritual kind. You are bound by a very strong spirit of delusion. God be with us all. TV 1 Like |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by pickabeau1: 11:48am On Oct 16, 2014 |
No problem Let me know when u do bukatyne: |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 11:49am On Oct 16, 2014 |
Misogynist2014: Have I said there is anything wrong with wishing me good luck? I am an urologist. |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 11:57am On Oct 16, 2014 |
swaggzo: I will. |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by bukatyne(f): 12:09pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
pickabeau1: No problem *Modified I have glanced through and I think it is a matter of interpretation. Paul did not endorse slavery, he only gave solutions to the issue of slavery around him. Jesus and the apostles after Him only modified what was existing in their societies to fit heavenly standards. There are some things she said I agree with though We are learning daily and with further study, she will see that Paul did not do so |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 2:13pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
What is gender inequality? This is 2014 people........ https://www.nairaland.com/1925181/branded-campaign-materials-2015-around |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Misogynist2014(m): 2:43pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:Cool . Let me give you a simple question in German 'Mein Man und ichh im Urlab sind.' Spot the mistakes in my sentence and then tell me the meaning. |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Misogynist2014(m): 2:53pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
In one word, they are not Christians. CONGRATS!!! It is very föölish to compare 2000 yrs ago, when little was known of Africa, when slaves were normal and Rome reigned supreme to 21st century. I think the bible was fair enough to instruct Christians to treat their slaves well. Did Jesus or his disciples own slaves? They want you to prove Christianity right, you are a loner. |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by TV01(m): 2:59pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by TV01(m): 3:01pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
Misogynist2014:I think you misunderstood my post. Carefrewannabe and Shirley07, both believe that Christianity condones slavery. Shirley07 additionally claims that Paul sees the husband/wife relationship as akin to a slave/master one. I solidly refuted both errors ! As to comparing Africa 2'000 years ago, I actually compared the Christian exhortatio of 2'000 years ago to most non-Judeo-Christian based countries of this present day. And am bold to declare that many of those countries, even now, do not match up to that ehortation. Am I clear, or are you of a different opinion? TV ...or perhaps I misunderstood you? |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Misogynist2014(m): 3:03pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
bukatyne:What does reading it change? |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Misogynist2014(m): 3:15pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
TV01:I deleted the msg. As for the Master/Slave, its very true that their stupidity is on all time high. Selectively quoting the Bible is what some people enjoy the most. I tripple-dog dear carefreewannabe to tell me if any marriage following the guideline of bible will ever fail or get sour? But for apostle Paul, carefreewannabe's husband will be preparing for his third wife. |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 4:10pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
Misogynist2014: First of all this is not a question but a positive statement. There are three mistakes in the sentence, two spelling mistakes and the sentence structure is wrong. Mein Mann und ich sind im Urlaub. My husband and I are on holiday. Try harder. 1 Like |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 4:16pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
TV01: self-deception 1 Like |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Misogynist2014(m): 5:47pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:Hmm!!! |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Misogynist2014(m): 6:02pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
swaggzo:U don't have to sound so rude, just to make friends with carefreewannabe and babygirlfl. Teaching a boy to be good domestically is not the same as helping his WIVES. In fact, I don't see a reason for this thread. Feminism is only active on Nairaland and even people like Mercy Johnson and most celebs who we think should be championing the cause are not feminists(since they've seen it all abroad and to them, it ain't worth practicing.) Active Nigerian feminists are on their own. Image a wife trying to punish her husband without serving him food and the man on getting home from work heard and enters the kitchen to cook a sumptuous meal. How does that sound to you? Equality kọ̀, ẹpọ̀nriti ni. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 6:55pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
Misogynist2014: You don't have to comment or post your trash on my thread just to show everyone that you're stupiid. 2 Likes |
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