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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 4:48am On Oct 17, 2014 |
Mwenyi: If you've been to Igboland or have lived in Igboland before, those observations you made are normal things within Igbos! Igbo people's phenotype are a continuum from dark-skinned to light-skinned. In Nigeria, other tribes automatically refer to a light-skinned person as Igbo/'omo ibo' before even considering any other tribe they might actually be from. The dark-skinned ones tend to not be as dark as the Congolese or Sudanese people who are very dark in complexion. Could you expand more on 'with the caucasian body type, complexion and hair'?. I'm interested in knowing exactly the features of those people you met to have you qualify their characteristics as such. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by itstpia1: 5:29am On Oct 17, 2014 |
Mwenyi: its possible some are mixed, however this might be from far back. some capoids also appear mixed, so its a bit hard to tell where exactly the mixture might be from in the absence of any defined records. capoid: ![]() igbo: [img]http://1.bp..com/-vz5OgGqz-34/UuBTgn0JC4I/AAAAAAAAF4s/voiBMPBcHow/s500/IMG_2164_pp.jpg[/img] http://www.thatigbochick.com/2014_03_01_archive.html 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Mwenyi: 2:59pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
bigfrancis21: Mike Tyson body type is caught between west African and Caucasoid. Serena William has thick caucasoid body type with ripped african muscles. Shaq O'Neil got white body type yet he is dark. Jill Scott has thick white body too. Michael Jordan has typical west african body type. Tupac had africa body type so Oprah. Do Igbo women have big behinds typical of west african types or flat like ethiopians.^_^ Is this guy AA or igbo http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi989.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf18%2Foditous2%2FAfrica%2FOsi_Umenyiora.jpg&ei=6x1BVKW-JIW_ygO47IKACA&psig=AFQjCNFwmfAHrwOhMfzGV3ZTaI2zlQsmsw&ust=1413640043677669 http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi989.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf18%2Foditous2%2FAfrica%2F546-6S5ASOMUGHA_standalone_prod_aff.jpg&ei=ZB5BVLPUEOL_ywPknIG4Cg&psig=AFQjCNFMd4eLZWXbFJp3mHciPfqALox7zA&ust=1413640164361177 These light skinned people do not have features associated with west african types. They seem to have narrow noses and elongated Caucasoid heads. http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.pulse.ng%2Fimg%2Fincoming%2Forigs3060864%2F7195568819-w644-h429%2FChichi-Igbo-lesbian.jpg&ei=sx5BVIX5MqKCzAOBs4HoCA&psig=AFQjCNGfvepGowN1C2GlaZ6x_6FNLkwP7Q&ust=1413640243924748 http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw4Hw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi989.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf18%2Foditous2%2FAfrica%2FUtiNwachukwu.jpg&ei=Sh9BVNqhIoTlywOQuYGIDA&psig=AFQjCNFI-uDfuimGl1KMk7Ruzr2Vn4f16g&ust=1413640394660960 http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw4Hw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.southeastnigeria.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F02%2Fosi-umenyiora.jpg&ei=hR9BVOqjGaP5yQPWr4GwBA&psig=AFQjCNEsgtG8rsUJ3R9mjoNMhCMyCqML9w&ust=1413640453509196 Are these Fulani, who are mixed with berber, or supposed to be typical west africa types of igbo tribe? http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw4Xg&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffree-land.wikispaces.com%2Ffile%2Fview%2Figbo_bride.jpg%2F37761988%2Figbo_bride.jpg&ei=1h9BVLaNIKK_ygOi94HACg&psig=AFQjCNHSQcoUDV9kfvbPWBeuhSBOTQepIg&ust=1413640534642664 It is more than the color of the skin http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Frapgenius%2Ffilepicker%2FIUDnDMzITXOPaXMg9exk_Lemar.jpg&ei=ZSBBVMuwNqnlywP1x4GoAQ&psig=AFQjCNEpfb4or4dQFX3Cuu8YNFaZBlFwjg&ust=1413640677985768 http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw4Gg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fionenewsone.files.%2F2010%2F07%2Fblackparentswhitebaby1.jpg%3Fw%3D500%26h%3D301&ei=riBBVM3GLIr8ygOUm4DoBQ&psig=AFQjCNGYvORUToefSWPTcg_Kt5TXnevMnQ&ust=1413640750815891 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 7:23pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Mwenyi: Lemar Obika, Osi Umenyiora, Uti Nwachukwu, Chichi, Nnamdi Asomugha are all pure Igbo with Igbo parents on both sides and have no foreign admixture whatsoever. Some other Igbos that look like you just described are: Oguchi Chijioke, ![]() ![]() |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 7:31pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Nkemdiche brothers: Robert and Denzel ![]() ![]() |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 7:41pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Chuka Edozie aka Lynxxx ![]() ![]() Hugh Njemanze ![]() |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Mwenyi: 12:00pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
bigfrancis21: You wanna tell me that Hugh Njemanze with caucasoid features is of pure west African race? I think this partly explains the mixed looking Nigerians found in southern Nigeria. Nigeria was settled by a number of former slaves from the US, Brazil and in the 1800s. Am not sure most Nigerians are aware of this. Am doubting genetic studies out there on Nigeria. https://theses.ncl.ac.uk/dspace/handle/10443/883 Afro-Brazilian architecture in Lagos State : a case for conservation Authors: Alonge, Marjorie Moji Dolapo Issue Date: 1994 Publisher: Newcastle University Abstract: The immigrants of African descent who began arriving in Lagos and Badagry in the early nineteenth century included not only Afro-Brazilians, but also Afro-Cubans, Afro-Americans, Afro- Canadians (freed slaves from Nova Scotia) and Sierra Leonians (Saros). Of these the Afro-Brazilians and the Saros constituted the largest and most dominant groups. The Afro-Brazilians were the descendants of African slaves (mostly from West Africa and Angola) taken to Brazil. They returned to West Africa between the 1820s and 1890s. Collectively, in Nigeria the Afro-Brazilians and the Afro- Cubans were referred to as `Brazilians' or Aguda (Yoruba word for Catholics) probably because the majority of both these groups were Catholics. The Saros were the descendants of Yoruba slaves from southwestern Nigeria. Some of these slaves were on their way to the Americas to be sold but were rescued by the British anti-slavery squadron along the West African coast. They were then resettled in Freetown, Sierra Leone, which was founded in the eighteenth century by an Englishman named Granville Sharp. Other Saros were African slaves (mostly of Yoruba origin) who have been in England since the early seventeenth century. They were repatriated to Sierra Leone after the abolition of slavery in Great Britain. After Lagos was ceded to the British by Oba Dosunmu in 1861, many more Saros were encouraged to return to Yorubaland by the colonial administration. The Saro community lived in the Saro quarter alongside the Afro-Brazilian community in the Brazilian quarter of Lagos. Like the Afro-Brazilians, they also produced a significant genre of architecture and a distinctive creole culture during the nineteenth century. The Saro architectural style was largely based on a combination of the British colonial style and the Yoruba traditional spatial arrangement. Although the Saros contributed immensely to the development of architecture in Lagos, they were not nearly as renowned for their building design and construction skills as the Afro-Brazilians were. This study is concerned primarily with the architecture created by the Afro-Brazilians as distinct from the Saros, whose architecture undoubtedly merits study in its own right. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 1:44pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
Mwenyi: That's wholly untrue. Igbo people's complexion mix isn't related to any admixture whatsoever pre or after slavery. You're talking about slave returnees right? And this was after the abolishment of slavery in the 1800s right? How about we go back in time to way before during the 1600s and 1700s when Igbo slaves were being transported from Igboland to the Americas, a time when there were no foreign settlers (and still till now) and the entire trade exchange took place along the Niger Delta coastline. Ever heard of the phrase, 'red eboe' before? Are you aware that during the slave trade, Igbo slaves directly from West Africa were remarkably known to be 'yellowish' in color by other tribes and slave masters and were called 'red eboe'? These were slaves directly from West Africa with no admixture whatsoever. 'Red eboe' survived in America, Jamaica, Caribbean nations and other areas where Igbo slaves were sent to, and has been corrupted to 'red bone' which African Americans, Caribbean natives etc use to refer to any light-skinned person. Many sources and articles exist online on the yellowish nature of Igbo slaves. Simply google up 'red eboe' and read for yourself. The yellowish nature of the Igbo predates to pre-slavery and counters your opinion. Moreover, the ex-slave returnees were mostly Yoruba in ancestry and settled mostly in Lagos state (Yorubaland). Igbo ex-slave returnees were few and many avoided Igboland altogether (owing to their fear of being subjected to slave status for they understood Igbo traditions well) and headed for Equatorial Guinea where they settled instead. If so, why is there a much lower incidence of light-skinned folks in Yorubaland than Igboland that received fewer slave returnees? 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Mwenyi: 7:14pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
bigfrancis21: Either igbos are evolving into the caucasoids or they could be telling us people who brought E1b1a to west Africa were light skin north East Africans. Igbo retaining light skin from north east Africans while other E1b1a bearers lost it. That possibility bothers me to no end. LOL! There is another case of a Nigerian woman married to a white man giving to a 100% white kid. How is that possible? The woman must have some Eurasia admixture for that to happen. Where is the scientific explanation for this phenomenon? I still believe Igbs are mixed somewhere. A proud people just can't up and claim middle eastern origin without some truth to it. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 10:45pm On Nov 14, 2014 |
Mwenyi: No one can say for sure the actual cause of the light-skinned phenomenon of Igbo people. But one thing is for sure - the phenomenon has long existed in Igboland and predates initial contact with Europeans during the slave trade and colonization. It is well known that in some territories in Africa, especially along the sea coastline, European traders kept African concubines and sired interracial children with them but this was rare in Igboland, given that majority of Igboland is situated in the hinterlands of Southern Nigeria, and, by virtue of this fact, had very little direct contact with Europeans during the slave trade. Foreign slave traders at the Bight of Biafra restricted their purchases mostly at the coastline areas ie Opobo, Bonny, Calabar. Igbo slaves, which were sold en-masse during the slave trade, were mostly captured or kidnapped from the hinterkands by fellow Africans and transported down to the coastline to be sold off. A best example of this journey would be the slave narrative of Olaudah Equiano on his harrowing but interesting slave experience from Igboland to the Americas. I've seen a light-skinned Igbo woman married to a man of middle-eastern origin with babies looking exactly like her husband in complexion, with not the slightest indicaation whatsoever of being a biracial. There are 2 recorded cases of 2 dark-skinned Igbo couples giving birth to what seemed like caucasian babies. First case: ![]() http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-genes-pale-skin/comment-page-1/ Second case: ![]() Another case by an African couple from Congo. ![]() The Igbo population is obviously interesting, with a lot of genetic manifestations showing up here and there. What's more interesting is that the stark light-skinned phenomenon is much less present in its neighbouring tribes. However, no official studies have been carried out into the investigation of this phenomenon among the Igbo people of Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Deney90: 10:29pm On Dec 24, 2014 |
bigfrancis21: Seconded. The striking resemblance between Igbos and African Americans cannot be denied. Here are more Igbos with AA features. Ebuka Uchendu Alex Ekubo
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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by suyu: 9:46pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
Mwenyi: I heard about that lady to who had a white child, she is igbo and her husband white british. she has some european ancestry down the line. I believe to that igbo's, not all but many of them are mixed with white down the line. even ones that are recent mix they claim as full igbo as well, like this actress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Madekwe , this actress is only 1/4 igbo but I remeber a guy a few years back was claiming she was pure igbo until I checked her history and found out she was mixed. Many igbo's claim being connected to jewish people and etc so maybe theres some truth to it I guess |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 10:35pm On Dec 28, 2014 |
Deney90: How do you mean Igbos with AA features? Or AAs with Igbo features? Who came from the other? Igbo or AAs? Igbos are 'originally' black and thus, the model stereotype because without any admixture whatsoever, they have physical traits which AAs have to have with partial admixture from other non-african ancestries. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by darkskingoddess(f): 2:28am On Oct 23, 2015 |
So did it work out with him? ![]() |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by tpiander: 2:54am On Oct 23, 2015 |
yes, Igbos and AAs have a strong resemblance. |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 3:56am On Oct 23, 2015 |
tpiander: Southeastern Nigeria as a whole has a strong resemblance with African Americans. |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 4:45pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
aim5: You're right but I prefer to think of it the other way round because African Americans partially came from Igbo and so it is proper to say they have resemblance with the Igbos, their partial ancestors, than the Igbos have resemblance with them because we did not come from them, we partially gave birth to them. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 7:18pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: I meant it that way, it just came out different. I wasn't trying to insinuate that African Americans gave birth to Igbos and Southeastern Nigeria as a whole. |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by essa9davies4(f): 4:03pm On May 04, 2016 |
Where I come from in igboland, most of my relations look like whites(not talking about albinism) and we are not mixed either#and attimes some of my friends from other africans country ask if I'm an AA |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 5:03am On May 05, 2016 |
essa9davies4: Where are you from? |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by BlackKenichi(m): 4:02pm On Jul 25, 2016 |
Mwenyi: Mwenyi: Man, shut your dumbarse up. You know nothing of genetics or history. |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by shamiraaa(m): 5:08am On Sep 29, 2016 |
bigfrancis21: where are all these AA of Nigerian descent? in the bottom od the sea for sure. Danny Glover, yes Igbo descent. but about Wesley Snipes, that was LIE. Wesley Snipes as Eddy Murphy are all done in Cameroon and the dust had long ago settled down on that. then how is that every time we watch the ancestry ceremonies the Tikar / Bamileke in Cameroon follow by Mende in Sierra Leone steal the show in result in many cases.? in Churches you name it!! I heard most of Nigerian slaves finished in the bottom of Ocean. the were shoot. hang, ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Iamlordgee(m): 4:20pm On Nov 21, 2016 |
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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by shamiraaa(m): 12:10am On Jul 14, 2017 |
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Jayvarley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqNN-M9kcpQ 2 Likes |
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bigfrancis21: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIoHjXNuxAs 2 Likes |
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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by shamiraaa(m): 3:59am On Aug 30, 2017 |
kwametut: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTs_32MddI44hxn2ppaQre5zUzqesnhTvRVzg229lH589LWs4Rz Cameroon root makom na mbia mwèssè wènguè mu linganè wa éssè lambo bobé 1 Like |
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