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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by jumper524(m): 4:56pm On Oct 27, 2014
danaiks:
Hmm....he has said his own

What an old man sees sitting down, a young man cannot see standing up...even on a skyscraper!!
guy i no believe this proverb
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by frog12: 5:06pm On Oct 27, 2014
i see no problem with it, all that matters is their talents.
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by mandarin: 5:16pm On Oct 27, 2014
Obasajo was right as the reality of today is averse to single faith combination. There is always a time when the choice we make work for us and against us and that is what Fashola is experiencing, it worked for him to become Lagos Governor but may not work for him to become the Vice President, may be it will work for him later to become the president(go and need his interview when he turned 50 years)
Thant said, I think it is not wise to field muslim-muslim ticket at this period of islamic terrorism in Nigeria and with the kind of bad posture already given to the APC front runner it is better they step it down with a more serious, committed and sell-able christian deputy, may be Professor Osinbajo will do but preferably from the Eastern bloc of Yoruba country in order to claim that area from PDP.For GEJ to embark on a pilgrimage at this time its a serious political statement to the christian community especially the Middle Beltans who are still much into such beliefs.
Let the opposition party look for a credible christian with education and exposure and begin to market him seriously preferably from Ekiti or Ondo state who will be a technocrat that can be the minister for Economy and also manage BUHARI well.
Fielding any muslim -muslim ticket will create ill feeling among the christian though to be honest Fashola remains a world class presidential material.
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Suntzung: 5:33pm On Oct 27, 2014
OBJ is still a PDP Agent! APC be very careful with him, he is working against his fellow Yuruba man Fashola (Muslim) who in this calculation slated
to be the next president after THE Buhari's 4 years of cleaning, recovery and normalizing NIGERIA from the rascal criminal thugs that have infested, wounded and almost ground NIGERIA. BUHARI = TAFAWA BALEWA same philosophy and charisma vote 4 him NIGERIA'S GLORY WOULD BE RESTORED TO ATB era……………
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Nobody: 5:58pm On Oct 27, 2014
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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by abdulwastecx(m): 6:14pm On Oct 27, 2014
danaiks:
Hmm....he has said his own

What an old man sees sitting down, a young man cannot see standing up...even on a skyscraper!!

stupid old man....be warming up for a life imprisonment in kirkiri prison when buhari win the presidential election.
ELE BURUKU

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by abdulwastecx(m): 6:19pm On Oct 27, 2014
danaiks:
Hmm....he has said his own

What an old man sees sitting down, a young man cannot see standing up...even on a skyscraper!!

stupid old man....be warming up for a life imprisonment in kirkiri prison when buhari win the presidential election.
OLE BURUKU

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Suntzung: 6:28pm On Oct 27, 2014
abdulwastecx:


stupid old man....be warming up for a life imprisonment in kirkiri prison when buhari win the presidential election.
OLE BURUKU

Please don't scare him by now, Just allow him, he know his time is off already!
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by tochimajesty: 6:33pm On Oct 27, 2014
That buhari and fashola collaboration is too tempting to resist on a religious ground. I have not voted before but I will go out to cast my vote; an anti corruption crusader and a development driver. Who will resist this cos of religion, men bone religion

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Rexyl(m): 7:14pm On Oct 27, 2014
Obasajo shouldn't have bn concerned with apc things nao. They can go for whatever candidates they like. Both Buhari and el Rufai can contest as both President and vice Prsident. I woudnt know why obj is disturbed.

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by rhymz(m): 8:13pm On Oct 27, 2014
All I see in many of the comments amongst people that think religion does not matter is all wishful thinking that is a very far cry from the realities on ground.

Nigeria is not ready for any combination that will have any one religion, tribe or region dominate leadership positions at the top and next level. Talk all sophisticated as you like and want, the majority of Nigerians that will vote are the very religious ones you meet in the mosque and churches. You think religion is not an issue because in your family you have Christians and Muslims-and so what?

Which South western state has both her governor and Deputy come from the same religion? Abi una religious tolerance no reach that place ni. Is Aregbe's deputy a Muslim as well?

The most traumatic problem this country has faced and is still facing is religion. This has even wrecked way more havoc than tribalism. Just because you want to win by all means does not mean people's sensibilities should be ignored on the alter of pretense that it does not mean anything.

The irony of the combination is that if this were to be reversed, there is no how any Muslim person will see any justification in the leadership of a Christian_Christian combo, no matter how promising and wonderful it is. Yet some pretenders here think because they are from a region where Muslims and Christians come from the same family they are more tolerant than regions that are predominantly Christians. Yet history shows it did not get that way because of tolerance but through cultural amalgamation from both the marauding Arabs from the North who find it easy to force their religion on the people of that region than another.

It is not like there has ever been news about religious unrest of any kind in regions where Islam is not fancied, so what is the fuss about the St being religiously tolerant. Very stupid claim, I must say.

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Image123(m): 8:21pm On Oct 27, 2014
Abiola-Kingibe worked in Nigeria, it was Muslim-Muslim.

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by ruffDiamond: 9:02pm On Oct 27, 2014
okbaba obj we go see where all these political intrigues go end but me i no get any problem wit any arrangement sha so long the winnning team do the RIGHT THING smiley

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Solozzo(m): 9:16pm On Oct 27, 2014
OBJ should cease double-dipping PDP and APC. Does not Atiku, does not want Fashola and he is a PDP member. Shame!

And who says same religious creed cannot win election. The fairest election in this country was won by Muslim-Muslim team: Abiola and Kingibe! APC please respect competence and democracy, not demigods like obj.

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Idrismusty97(m): 10:28pm On Oct 27, 2014
deb:


So when will the nation grow beyond religious and ethnic bigotry to embrace excellence irrespective of the region or the practice of an excellent and competent candidate?

All these sentimental judgment in making decision has kept the national backward for years. So when will the nation (citizens) become wise on their own without being influenced by even their closest neighbour to take the rightful decision that their own conscience supports?
Until religion cease to exist in this world we have to accept the fact that it plays a major role in our politics around the world. Nigeria is not the only victim, Lebanon and any nation with considerable amounts of both Christians and muslims have to adjust.
[size=20]Lebanon[/size]

Seats in parliament were divided on a 6-to-5 ratio of Christians to Muslims , until 1990 when the ratio changed to half and half. Positions in the government bureaucracy are allocated on a similar basis. The pact also by custom allocated public offices along religious
lines, with the top three positions in the ruling "troika" distributed as follows:
-The President , a Maronite Christian;
-The Speaker of the Parliament, a Shi'a
Muslim, and
-The Prime Minister, a Sunni Muslim.
Efforts to alter or abolish the confessional
system of allocating power have been at the
centre of Lebanese politics for decades. Those
religious groups most favoured by the 1943
formula sought to preserve it, while those who
saw themselves at a disadvantage sought either
to revise it after updating key demographic data
or to abolish it entirely. Nonetheless, many of
the provisions of the national pact were codified
in the 1989 Ta'if Agreement , perpetuating
sectarianism as a key element of Lebanese
political life.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Lebanon
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Alubosa: 10:31pm On Oct 27, 2014
23 Years after the MKO Abiola and Kingibe ticket, we are here sweating over a muslim-muslim presidential aspirants....Except the meaning of society in regression eludes me

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Nobody: 11:30pm On Oct 27, 2014
Hmm
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by babestella: 11:52pm On Oct 27, 2014
danjumakolo:
You can now see that Nigeria can.never move forward.
Imagine an elder statesman saying.
Fact is,if the xtian_Xian ticket or Muslim_Muslim ticket can deliver Nigeria to the promised land,isn't that better?

The dual Muslim ticket cannot move NIGERIA forward. Nigeria and Nigerians being what they are can never leave religion out of politics or governance. You can see what hijab ban in LAGOS public schools is causing already. Are our children in school to wear hijab or to read? Or is hijab part of school uniform? You can see how religious things are trivialized in Nigeria. Even if the dual Muslim ticket works for APC, I bet you, it wouldn't be long Nigerians will start crying. In my opinion, NO retired army officer especially those who planned and executed coup in the past should aspire for any political office. Once a soldier, always a soldier. They can only be appointed as security advisers.
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Nobody: 1:19am On Oct 28, 2014
Thief Obasanjo better shut his rotten mouth!

A man that has undermined democracy in Nigeria and who has proclaimed himself a card carrying member of the ruling PDP party has no moral right to tell any opposition who can represent them.

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by scholes0(m): 2:09am On Oct 28, 2014
So what if the president and VP are both Muslims or both Christians? How does that change anything?

When Buhari and Babatunde Idiagbon both Muslims were in the no1 and no2 political offices in Nigeria, we saw a massive improvement in so many sectors of national life.

Fashola is a Muslim, but has he in any way discriminated against Christians in Lagos?
Why should competent people be overlooked, simply because they are of a certain religion?

Some of you guyz are somewhat immature in you thoughts.

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by rhymz(m): 4:53am On Oct 28, 2014
scholes0:
So what if the president and VP are both Muslims or both Christians? How does that change anything?

When Buhari and Babatunde Idiagbon both Muslims were in the no1 and no2 political offices in Nigeria, we saw a massive improvement in so many sectors of national life.

Fashola is a Muslim, but has he in any way discriminated against Christians in Lagos?
Why should competent people be overlooked, simply because they are of a certain religion?

Some of you guyz are somewhat immature in you thoughts.
many of you just like to write sentimental nonsense just because you want to support a stance. Which sector of Nigeria was improved during the Buhari and Idiagbon led regime. You call the very undemocratic and mafia style of leadership they use an improvement, many of you lots need to move to Iran and the likes where you are regulated and curtailed by the religious whims and caprice of some sheik or royal despot.

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by sarutobie(m): 7:19am On Oct 28, 2014
Blueboy0402:
Just because it is politics, some people will come to a faceless forum like this and type trash. For goodness sake Nigeria is not properly structured. You can see and even feel the injustice in our national life. Inasmuch as I prefer competence over any other thing, unfortunately it is not so in this country. To all those promoting muslim-muslim ticket, what will you say about quota system? what will you say about federal character? is it only now that you will remember competence? As a nation, we did not remember competence when a child scores 230 in an examination but was not given admission but another child scores 2 and was offered admission into our unity schools; we did not scream competence!

I am not a fan of Obasanjo but the old man said the biter truth. Some of us may not like what he said but that is the sad reality in Nigeria. If we are talking about competence, let it reflect in all our national life. Obasanjo has hit the nail on the head, let those who have ears hear!
you dey mind the political toddlers on this forum? what injustice surpasses that of the quota system that this contraption of a country has practiced for decades? where a boy in anambra scores 200 in an examination but is rejected because some boy from adamawa who cant even write his name has been offered his slot in a unity school! all these e-activists with a 1mb capacity brain sef..
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by abdulwastecx(m): 7:23am On Oct 28, 2014
rhymz:
many of you just like to write sentimental nonsense just because you want to support a stance. Which sector of Nigeria was improved during the Buhari and Idiagbon led regime. You call the very undemocratic and mafia style of leadership they use an improvement, many of you lots need to move to Iran and the likes where you are regulated and curtailed by the religious whims and caprice of some sheik or royal despot.

Democracy is seriously overrated and cannot really bring the needed change or development for Africans because our society and intellects can grasps the really understanding of good governers.

I will rather have a dictator like buhari or Mohammed surato of Indonesia whom greated employment, generate electricity, improve standard of living, stabilized the country than having clueless jonathan who cannot do anything

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by abdulwastecx(m): 7:37am On Oct 28, 2014
sarutobie:

you dey mind the political toddlers on this forum? what injustice surpasses that of the quota system that this contraption of a country has practiced for decades? where a boy in anambra scores 200 in an examination but is rejected because some boy from adamawa who cant even write his name has been offered his slot in a unity school! all these e-activists with a 1mb capacity brain sef..

typical arrogance from south easterner....
Nigeria is restructured in away where education opportunities is evenly spread aming the six geopolitical zones. Anambra boy wishing to go a unity school should do it in his region since a boy from ondo state with 300 will not be allowed to get a slot in enugu
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by sarutobie(m): 7:51am On Oct 28, 2014
abdulwastecx:


typical arrogance from south easterner....
Nigeria is restructured in away where education opportunities is evenly spread aming the six geopolitical zones. Anambra boy wishing to go a unity school should do it in his region since a boy from ondo state with 300 will not be allowed to get a slot in enugu
which boy from Ondo state? arrogance you say? it is a fact that is as clear as day..look at the " escaped" chibok girls for example, who were about to write their senior school certificate examination and NONE of them could make a sentence in English, they needed translators..Abdul you can feign ignorance of reality all you want, doesn't change the fact that quota system has favoured the northern child the most in this contraption of a country.

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Orunto: 8:41am On Oct 28, 2014
OBJ's ADVICE, IS VERY CORRECT AND TRUE! WHAT ABOUT GOWON's, IBB's, & AA's opinions on this Buhari's talk for the Growth, Progress and Unity(GPU) of Nigeria? As elder statemen and former Military Rulers of this great Country, Nigerians wish to know how much of DIRECTIVES ON GPU OF NIGERIA THEY ARE? GOD BLESS NIGERIA!
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by legendsilver(m): 8:49am On Oct 28, 2014
skyeboy98:
Is Baba now apc member?
google has the answer
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by BlissB(f): 9:02am On Oct 28, 2014
Muslim-muslim or christain-christain ticket does not matter,in as much d aspirants r eligible for the position and r working for d betterment of Nigeria but being dat we r a Nation sensitive about tribe and religion den Obasanjo is right
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by PreciousGem(f): 11:47am On Oct 28, 2014
True talk baba Iyabo! it helps to tackle religious crisis and mayhem. let's not be religious bias when it comes to politics because politicians are neither Muslim or Christian they just wear the garment to fool masses
Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by Nobody: 1:42pm On Oct 28, 2014
Acidosis:
I made this statement few days back in response to a nairalander who said religion is not important in electoral matters


"Religion is important, that's the point. If people could change political parties like "undies", why can't they do same with religion?

An Ibo man will never become the governor of Oyo state; it is not bigotry; but a fact. Nigerians will never accept a muslim-muslim or a Christian-Christian or a Hausa-Hausa or a Yoruba-Yoruba president/vice-president.

You can't tell me that a muslim-muslim combination like Buhari-Fashola is the best a country of 160million people can deliver?

Where are the over 80million Christians? Is Fashola better than All?

Fashola is Fashola because he has access to a state like Lagos with so many multinationals, productive people and of course, large resources. The fact that other governors in states like Ekiti, Jigawa, Kwara, Ogun, Katsina aren't making headlines in Lagos based TV channels do not signify failure in other states. We need to get these facts right.

There is little Fashola can do in Aso rock." Nigeria nor be Lagos; Aso rock nor be Alausa.
Yep....u dnt make headlines wit zero impact...b4 jonathan became d vice 4 yar' adua, he never recorded as much impact fashola has 4 lag.....so wats ur point really aimin at...jonathan started somewhr, n we can c hw well he has handled nigeria beta dan he did wen he handled his state as a gov...u all can sense hw real dis ppl wuld make nigeria beta....bt yet its left 4 u to turn on religion....I'm a christian so u shuld kno....if its 2 muslims dat can appear credible, fyn...y dnt we vote 4 d safety of our generations to come

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Re: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo Cautions APC About Muslim-muslim Ticket by rhymz(m): 1:52pm On Oct 28, 2014
abdulwastecx:


Democracy is seriously overrated and cannot really bring the needed change or development for Africans because our society and intellects can grasps the really understanding of good governers.

I will rather have a dictator like buhari or Mohammed surato of Indonesia whom greated employment, generate electricity, improve standard of living, stabilized the country than having clueless jonathan who cannot do anything
Obviously, from the way you write, it is clear you are still a kid that probably was too young to understand the political madness that greeted the Buhari government. Buhari has nothing of worth to offer leadership at any level in this country besides flaunting his self-cultivated piety and false messianic posture. In terms of intelligence, Jonathan is better, charisma, Jonathan is better. Qualifications , Jonathan is better. Tolerance and temperament, Jonathan is better. Achievements as leaders, Jonathan is better.
I challenge you to Point to one major project or initiative of the Buhari administration, you will be hard pressed to find anything he did that is worth mentioning besides stupefying and alarming rate if human rights abuses, despotic and mafia trial style of executing so-called dissidents and lining his pockets with our money.

Buhari is a lower and not fit for any leadership in a sane society.

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