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Let's Talk About Love. by Kay17: 11:47am On Nov 03, 2014 |
@mizmycoli I have always wanted to settle this issue of love with you, because your posts have the strongest conviction in love as the viable way of life and most important "element" in the Universe. Although it is difficult to define love, but we can agree that we both know intuitively what love is and what is expected of it. Can we agree love is an emotion? 4 Likes |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by MizMyColi(f): 12:19pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Love is a variety of different feelings, states, and attitudes that ranges from interpersonal affection ("I love my mother" ![]() ![]() ^^^ Source: Wikipedia Our emphasis in this context would be the emboldened. You would agree with me that going by what we know to be true in our hearts and by the above submission, we would be doing love a great disservice by reducing it to “just an emotion”. As a matter of fact, love and fear is the basis for all emotions. Love and fear, in all their forms and compartments can never be entirely separated from the being of a human. Ancient Greeks distinguished four kinds of love:- 1. Kinship or familiarity (storge), 2. Friendship (philia), 3. Sexual and/or romantic desire (eros), and 4. Self-emptying or divine love (agape). Emphasis on the last emboldened. That is the kind of love I would that we all aspire to. 35 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Kay17: 1:38pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
yes, but lets find the basic nature of love which binds kinship, friendship, romantic desire and self emptying together as Love before we talk abut the action of Love. Since love comes from within man, and it is not primarily a function of our rationality, it has to be an emotion or an instinct. 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by OasisofRefuge(f): 1:38pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
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Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Kay17: 1:49pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
OasisofRefuge: The bolded is a beautiful example. This trait appears common in all mothers across a number of species, Mother Dogs and Pigs, and hens express this trait of absolute selflessness in order to protect their youngj that in the wild we find mothers placing their lives at risk by attacking predators in order to rescue their young. This proves that the trait must be an emotion/instinct which is exercised without rationality. 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by frank317: 1:59pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
MizMyColi: how do you intend to aspire and get to self emptying or divine love? how can a mortal been aspire to divine love? are u a divine being? 3 Likes |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by MizMyColi(f): 2:02pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Yes, I believe. My being alone is all the proof I need of my divinity. For in my humanity lies my divinity. frank317: 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by MizMyColi(f): 2:13pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
You can term it an innate predisposition in and among humans. Kay17: |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Kay17: 2:47pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
MizMyColi: That's more general, I will agree love is an innate predisposition in humans. Next, is love only in humans, or does it exist amongst other animals, atomic particles and Universe? |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by urheme: 2:51pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
MizMyColi: what about animals, are they excluded from loving? someone pls show me the complain thread. I ve a petition to make against antispanbot. he banned me in the health section, for no reason. where is the love there, so much hate even on the internet 6 Likes |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by plaetton: 3:58pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Kay17:I think the emotion itself is the outward or biochemical manifestation of harmony. In fact, Harmonic Resonance is the best way to describe love. When to atoms or atomic particles resonate in harmony or with a common frequency, they act in similar manner. At the biological level, love is the biological or physiological manifestation of Resonance. We can either tune into it, or in the case of parent and child, it comes as the default setting. In the case of the universe, we can say that love pervades the universe, since particles do seek and find resonance with other particles. As it is above, so it is below. I hope I have made a little sense. Lol. 5 Likes |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by MizMyColi(f): 4:35pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Kay17: From the little I know, I'd say it exists in animals. I haven't finished combing my street so I wouldn't know much about the universe. However I earnestly wanna believe that it does. Atomic Particles? ![]() |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by plaetton: 5:12pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
MizMyColi: Yes dear, since love is a strong emotion that shows physiological/biological characteristics, we cannot ignore what or how it is triggered at the cellular and atomic levels. |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by MizMyColi(f): 5:16pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
plaetton: That's interesting, thanks ![]() |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Mclick(m): 5:31pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
One could love a thing or a person. when one professes to love what you natural like or derives pleasure in, it may not be all true love, but when you love a thing or someone you have reason not to want to love, that's true love. There are always some reason attached to professed love; benefits, looks, and or beauty, personality, race and lineage some times out of selfishness. In most cases, a person or even animals you truely love will love you back in short and or long run as they will feel it, if its real true. For example God loves us his children differently. There are those who seem to have more access to God, his presence, power and authority because they have paid the sacrifice to be closer to him and so be reverence them for that. Therefore, Love some times is returns of a measure. So if I love a person who appreciate it, there are tendencies I will love more. In the other way however, I may still love but not more 4 Likes |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Image123(m): 5:49pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Kay17: God is Love. 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Nobody: 6:00pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Mclick: You are saying this to atheists? Modified. Front page things!!!! Seun I see your handwork oooo. Ku ise. |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Nobody: 6:00pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Image123:Bravo |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by plaetton: 7:05pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Dapo777: That god is love depends on whose god we are talking about. God and love are linked as ideals. A mind that resonates with love will undoubtably create a god with similar characteristics, and vise versa. Since god is imaginary, he can be anything, including love, as well as it's opposite. The god of the scriptures display qualities that are clearly the antithesis of love. Yahweh confesses to be the author and architect of evil ( chaos and disharmony ). 1 Like |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Mclick(m): 7:43pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Dapo777:you mean my post has elements or religiousity? Its common sense that there is God, not talking about his powers. Atheism is born out of incomplete philosophy, lack of the knowledge of the true God. Atheism is born out of some philosophy. Philosophy is more and observation and theorization about physical nature. Note there is spiritual nature. Human mind will function in the direction it is committed to. Talking about knowledge as it relates to believe system. Knowledge is what you get through learning. Sometimes we also learn things wrongly either as a result of breakdown is communications between source, the person teaching it and the recipient of the knowledge. The breakdown in communication has course a lot to derail from the truth. God won't strive with man, as he has given man a free will to choose. From the forging therefore, until a man comes to the point of realisation of God's all powerful and self sufficient attributes. God will keep been unreal to the unreal man. Certainly, there will always be that point at every man's life, even if he tries to deny it, when he comes to the acknowledgments of the principle that underline the nature of cosmos, I mean God, the creator, the beginning and the end of everything. Its so glaring in nature that there is God. That we find it difficult to understand him sometimes is what makes him God 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Kay17: 7:48pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
plaetton: Ok, where/what is the connection between the mental state of emotion and the physical state of atomic particles? Because without proving that vital connection, it is impossible to sustain a theory that atomic particles exhibit love. |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Image123(m): 7:55pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 3 Likes |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Nobody: 7:57pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Mclick: The Op is. |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by plaetton: 8:06pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Kay17: What I am trying to say is that when when atomic particle, for example charges, or excites another particle to it's own resonate frequency, they establish a harmony that I think is the subatomic equivalence of love, resonating in the same frequency. The Earth, for example, has a harmonic frequency through which it bestows and sustains life among her children. Therefore, I t would be safe to say that the Earth communicates and spreads love to her children through harmonic resonance. When we do same, we feel the harmonic resonance as an emotion that we call love. Again, my 2 cents. |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Mclick(m): 8:24pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Dapo777:I see, I have modified it, she sure will see it |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Kay17: 8:46pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
@mizmycoli We have both agreed on the basics, the next step is acknowledging that love searches and attaches to a bond |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Nobody: 9:03pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Mclick: I have made up my mind to stop arguing about all these religion issues,it leads no Where. But take a look at this man,and tell me What you think about him. Be right back with the story. How would you describe a man that sits you down with very hot fire he created beside him,telling you: you know What? You see Dat fire over there? I created it,and It's very hot,But I don't wish you to go into the fire because I love you,But I still created the fire. Here is the deal,I know I gave u ur freewill But I don't want u to do ur will But mine. I want u to love me and do everything I say So I can be happy,But just incase you don't want to do my will,that fire over there is waiting to receive you(smiles) ,I am not forcing you to do my will ooo and I am not interfering with ur will at all ooo But I created that fire over there to torture you If u don't do my will,you see that i am not interferring at all,But I am not forcing u ooooo yet I created a very hot fire to BURN you for eternity,you see that I am not forcing you,don't think that fire is a threat against your will,see that fire as my anger for u not obeying my will because I love u and I love u enough to see you burn for eternity. Tell me who do you know loves as much as I do? Who else is as caring as to see his children burn in hell for eternity as me? You see that I am the Most caring? THAT'S my boy. Now the decision is yours, love me or burn in hell for eternity,Which one do you choose? 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by MizMyColi(f): 9:41pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Kay17: Okay, I really don't know where you're getting at, but I would that I no longer be a part of this discussion. For me, living "Love" trumps discussing it. I'll be humble enough to admit that I may never fully understand its workings - yet........I find in every human, despite their perfect imperfections, a solid expression of love - in varying degrees. That's simple and enough for me. **modified** @ 9:51pm 3/11/14 Please don't think of my reply as discourteous, it's just I don't like the toll discussions in this section take on my person. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by texanomaly(f): 9:59pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
plaetton: In this thread you sound more and more like a man who believes in a "oneness". Interesting. |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by plaetton: 10:07pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
texanomaly:Actually mam, I am with the school of thought that suggests that there is only one electron in the universe that just mirrors itself throughout the universe. |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by texanomaly(f): 10:22pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
plaetton: Interesting indeed. |
Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Mclick(m): 9:08am On Nov 04, 2014 |
Dapo777:its simple, I know you believe in the reason for laws and orderliness, and I also know you believe in reward system. That been said, how will this world have been, without governments or ruling system of any kind. Without law, you may not have come to being as some overbearing individual or group of people will have wipe out your lineage even before your great grand parent were born. Human being has tendencies to be greedy and selfish for ambition. Note that the law of God is not for us to love him alone, reverence him as the supreme being and creator, but for human being to live as peaceably as possible in a fairly harmonious co existence. Isn't the same thing our parent do to us, praise us when we do well and punish us when we behave badly, it takes a deeper and spiritual reasoning to come to the knowledge of God. That you love your children for example doesn't mean you won't give them guides and rules, in fact that is love and responsible parenting, that way they grow up to become responsible adults. If in the other way round, you refuse to train them because you love them, a shame and pain in the neck they become to you..... And the world. The world without laws, principles and rules will be a jungle, even among animals there are laws. God is so real, His power is so real and His knowledge is unsearchable. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
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