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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Aderostock(m): 5:26pm On Nov 09, 2014
Timehin:


That is no excuse for defending the indefensible.

People in all areas of the state should feel the impact of good governance. Why support him blindly in the midst of glaring evidence that he ought to have done more/better.
You folks lack understanding. Are roads the only thing they do in your good governance? what about state agencies and institutions present there? Are they for ghosts?
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Aderostock(m): 5:28pm On Nov 09, 2014
manutdadex:
are u in Nigeria at all? Try and visit threads on nairaland concernin d president and see for urself!
Show us the threads you specifically criticized your president. thank you
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Orikinla(m): 5:30pm On Nov 09, 2014
[size=14pt]Only those who are intellectually challenged cannot commend the laudable achievements of governor Fashola, because they don't have the brains to understand the sociopolitical and socioeconomic dynamics of governance in the second fastest-growing city in Africa and the seventh in the world. And it is a waste of time to discuss with such intellectually re-tarted people online and offline. The irony of these intellectually challenged people is the fact that most of them fled the underdevelopment of their badly governed states to Lagos state where they will have more opportunities of success and welfare. There are more children out of school in the south east and south south with villages still looking like locations in the great Chinua Achebe's all time classic "Things Fall Apart". Forget all the so called mega projects in Akwa Ibom, because many of the villages are still very primitive and the last time I visited recently, I could not stay long in the village, where majority of the people have to bathe in the nearby streams and use latrines in the bush and only three big men in the village could afford generators[/size]. grin

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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aresa: 5:35pm On Nov 09, 2014
manutdadex:
dis is d same problem wit Nigerians! because he did wat no governor is doin or has done, so he is d messiah..our past leaders were criminals, our present are high class criminal do small tin steal d remainin! Also gej has performd beta dan our ex presidents but will dat stop us frm demandin for a beta service? No!


What's saint got to do with governance and delivery on behalf of your people? The is about what the leaders we elect are able to do on behalf of the people with resources at their disposal..

If you feel like comparing Fashola with GEJ which I found very absurd and ridiculous, compare him with Fashola when he was a governor just like Fashola, not with oil wealth and federal resources...




Jonathan’s primary school in a state of disrepair


With one of its illustrious sons as the nation’s president, Otuoke has etched itself on the world map. One place that stands on the right as you drive into the linear town is the President’s first alma mater, St. Stephen’s Primary School (now State School, Otuoke), Bayelsa State. A visit to the 77-year-old school, where President Goodluck Jonathan started his primary education, was a revealing experience. Senior Correspondent, EVELYN OSAGIE, who visited the school before they vacated penultimate week Thursday, reports


http://247nigerianewsupdate.co/jonathans-primary-school-in-a-state-of-disrepair/
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That's your own president's school back in Bayelsa even with all their oil wealth, derivation, allocations and NDDC backdoor slush fund...

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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aresa: 5:41pm On Nov 09, 2014
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But the state government is spending billions to build the largest state government lodge in Nigeria....

smh...
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Nobody: 5:45pm On Nov 09, 2014
Orikinla:
[size=14pt]Only those who are intellectually challenged cannot commend the laudable achievements of governor Fashola, because they don't have the brains to understand the sociopolitical and socioeconomic dynamics of governance in the second fastest-growing city in Africa and the seventh in the world . And it is a waste of time to discuss with such intellectually re-tarted people online and offline. The irony of these intellectually challenged people is the fact that most of them fled the underdevelopment of their badly governed states to Lagos state where they will have more opportunities of success and welfare. There are more children out of school in the south east and south south with villages still looking like locations in the great Chinua Achebe's all time classic "Things Fall Apart". Forget all the so called mega projects in Akwa Ibom, because many of the villages are still very primitive and the last time I visited recently, I could not stay long in the village, where majority of the people have to bathe in the nearby streams and use latrines in the bush and only three big men in the village could afford generators[/size]. grin

Dude, how can you claim all these accolades like "second fastest-growing city in Africa and seventh in the world" and not demand for the best.

A simple example things not done right is the Lighting on the Lekki toll road, sometimes you drive by and it's so dark because the lights are off making it dangerous for pedestrians. Really who wants to have to go through the ordeal of knocking down someone in Lagos with all the jungle justice shh around.

I know power is a Federal issue, but since the road is a tolled PPP project, I'd have expected that at the very least, they gave us constant lighting there given the speeds of the cars and the high rates at which pedestrians cross the road.

In this example alone, there seems to be no excuse not to deliver the best as I believe just 1 month revenue from that tolling both would be enough to either fit individual solar panels on each pole, have a solar farm just for the lights, of have a dedicated plant to service those lights.

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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Mogidi: 5:46pm On Nov 09, 2014
Fashola hides his finances for a reason, he should sign the FOI bill.

Obanikoro or Jimi Agbaje would have an uphill task balancing the books of Lagos treasury when they assume office.
The electorates would like to know how prudent Fashola is, sign the FOI bill jare.

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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Nobody: 5:46pm On Nov 09, 2014
Aderostock:

You folks lack understanding. Are roads the only thing they do in your good governance? what about state agencies and institutions present there? Are they for ghosts?

Am done with you. Continue in your fashola-worship. Peace!

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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by manutdadex(m): 5:49pm On Nov 09, 2014
aresa:



What's saint got to do with governance and delivery on behalf of your people? The is about what the leaders we elect are able to do on behalf of the people with resources at their disposal..

If you feel like comparing Fashola with GEJ which I found very absurd and ridiculous, compare him with Fashola when he was a governor just like Fashola, not with oil wealth and federal resources...


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That's your own president's school back in Bayelsa even with all their oil wealth, derivation, allocations and NDDC backdoor slush fund...
well drop ur emotions and re read wat i wrote..take ur time..den reply!
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by manutdadex(m): 5:51pm On Nov 09, 2014
Aderostock:

Show us the threads you specifically criticized your president. thank you
am nt sayin myself...and also nobody is critisizin Fashola but d way u guys praise him as if he has no blemish! And i wont critisze d president for my problems...i pray for him instead of critisim
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aresa: 6:04pm On Nov 09, 2014
UchihaMadara:



A simple example things not done right is the Lighting on the Lekki toll road, sometimes you drive by and it's so dark because the lights are off making it dangerous for pedestrians. Really who wants to have to go through the ordeal of knocking down someone in Lagos with all the jungle justice shh around.

I know power is a Federal issue, but since the road is a tolled PPP project, I'd have expected that at the very least, they gave us constant lighting there given the speeds of the cars and the high rates at which pedestrians cross the road.

In this example alone, there seems to be no excuse not to deliver the best as I believe just 1 month revenue from that tolling both would be enough to either fit individual solar panels on each pole, have a solar farm just for the lights, of have a dedicated plant to service those lights.






Are you talking about the best bridge in West Africa shinning like diamond in the sky at night or another bridge you manufactured in your head? grin


Like I said, we have facts in brilliant colors on our side to trash whatever bad bele and bogus noise you people come up with...

In fact, this is obviously the best lit bridge in Nigeria and if for whatever reason you can not see while driving on this bridge, the problem is obviously not the bridge, it's your eyes and you need to have your eyes checked...


The crazy things people spew on NL sef....smh
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Nobody: 6:13pm On Nov 09, 2014
aresa:






Are you talking about the best bridge in West Africa shinning like diamond in the sky at night or another bridge you manufactured in your head? grin


Like I said, we have facts in brilliant colors on our side to trash whatever bad bele and bogus noise you people come up with...

In fact, this is obviously the best lit bridge in Nigeria and if for whatever reason you can not see while driving on this bridge, the problem is obviously not the bridge, it's your eyes and you need to have your eyes checked...


The crazy things people spew on NL sef....smh

Nah dude, I'm not talking about the bridge, I am talking about the lekki express toll.

I actually like the fact that the new toll bridge is always lit and I would score that 100% by all standards.
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by OYAY(m): 6:14pm On Nov 09, 2014
The act of development in democratic system is gradual and consistence process, in as much as we can not give BRF 100% grade in performance because of his infracstural development tilting towards the elite areas at least we can see reasonable project that will live after him. On the issue of inflated contract hardly can one fault that because of individual variation in pricing but we can see the project on ground unlike ghost projects that cost billions of naira.
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Nobody: 6:17pm On Nov 09, 2014
@aresa, don't you think that sterling example you posted of a constantly lit toll bridge should be replicated on the lekki-ajah toll road?

These are just questions everyday citizens ask.
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aresa: 6:20pm On Nov 09, 2014
manutdadex:
well drop ur emotions and re read wat i wrote..take ur time..den reply!



I state again that yes, fashola did a few good things but he skillfully used the media to overhype these few deeds in such a way that it almost covers up all the embezzlement he has done. most people don't know about the funds he has access to so they believe he has done so much. all his media hyping is just a cover up. if u notice from his deeds he doesn't seem to care for the common man at all

I read everything you posted and my reply was a reflection of that you posted.

1. You argued that he has few projects on the ground and he uses the media to hype them up which was just ignorant and absurd because facts remain that the media report what's on the ground and not what's not on the ground.

If the media is talking about lekkii bridge, it's because Fashola built it and the media report his work everyday because he commissions projects everyday.

If akpabio commissions project everyday, the'll report it everyday same way they reported the only stadium project he commissioned apart from the few roads after 8 nears in office.

Tell us what he commissioned last week, last month and even last year and even the year before. NOTHING.

So, exactly what do you want the media to report or hype? They hyped his few roads and stadium and that's all, nothign more to hyoe.

No new schools to hype

No new hospitals to hype

No nee clinics and maternity centers to hype

No skills centers to hype

No state institutions to hype

No visionary projects to hype

Also places like Enugu, Anambra, Aba and that entire region did not build anything or commissioned anything so there's nothing for the media to hype and the folks from that region on NL can not show us anything from that region because there is nothing to show hence latching on to Akwa Ibom as if Akwa Ibom is their's.


I have no problem with you spewing your pointless and illogical rubbish, just push it elsewhere with the unintelligent and ignorant folks on NL because I have facts and knowledge on my side to shut you down with...

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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by bashydemy(m): 6:25pm On Nov 09, 2014
Who the hell is Shaka Momodu?
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by ShegsDayo(m): 6:27pm On Nov 09, 2014
I have had cause to read a lot of comment but the truth be told- Gov. Fashola may be overrated but if you happen to live in lagos you suburbs you will appreciate whatever Lagos stands for now.
Lagos state is peculiar with little or resources yet with an overwhelming population. The only resource is money generated from tax and there are too many things to be done and; take it or leave it: no matter the amount of money generated you can never finish the work of Lagos in 8 years you can only try nd that's what Fashola has done.
Also note, Lagos have enjoyed continuity in government since Tinubu and we hope that wherever Fashola leaves it off, His predecessor will take over from there.
Lagos is not Dubai. Dubai has crude and Lagos has nothing, Dubai has a population that is less than their resource....
Men this article is harshly written without considering the Force of the environment.
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by poiZon: 6:37pm On Nov 09, 2014
Aderostock:

No! Fashola doesn't feed them but they make use of the roads, schools, hospitals, state institutions, environment etc hence they stretch the infrastructures.







free of charge abi?
let me educate will u rather hv a shop that is fully stocked with less customers than shop fully stocked with more customers n extremely stressful days cos everyday u will hv to go to market n restock the shop?
that explains lagos scenario, much population, much taxation but the govt is clueless!
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Ajibel(m): 6:48pm On Nov 09, 2014
Many times, people quote Lagos having over #20Billion in revenue and I wonder if such folks know the cost of governance or how a government is being run.
They sound as if BRF should just take a large chunk of the money and turn Lagos into a giant construction site. All bad roads cant be built at the same time. BRF isnt a saint, no doubt, but he is the best amongst all. He has his shortcomings that I greatly fault buh if he's to go for 3rd term, Imma vote for him...
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by poiZon: 6:49pm On Nov 09, 2014
aresa:


With all the exon crap you listed, what states work with at the end of the day after putting their taxes and allocation together is their yearly budgets.

Akwa Ibom's yearly Budgets are larger than Lagos state's budget by at least N100 billion.

In 2013 Lagos state's total IGR/year is 240 billion and fed allocation is 168 billion = 408 billion

The budget for 2013 is 497 billion.

It means Lagos state still with 20 million people have to look elsewhere to make up the difference to get to the 489 billion budget...

Akwa Iboms budget for the same year was 469 billion + 70 billion supplemental = 539 billion


497 billion and 539 billion, please tell us who is richer and should be able to commission projects everyday?

Why is Fashola with less money than Akwa Ibom commissioning projects everyday while Akwa Ibom doesn't? Have you asked yourself the above question?

It's common sense and self explanatory, but you people for some weird reason just play dumb and clueless..










first who said lagos state has 20million people?
ok lets assumed thr r 20million persons n 40 percent pay tax to the state, that s huge money bros, hw u c am compare to 3million persons n assuming 40percent or less pay taxes, that is tip of ice berg compare to lagos revenue.


do u knw d meaning of propaganda, that is what fashola is doing..
akwaibom allocation is 100billion naira more than lagos state, lagos state internally generated revenue is 600 billion times bigger than akwaibom state, yet akwaibom state budget is bigger than lagos state, where are thr dumping the monies bros? diaris god oooooo
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Tonylyte(m): 6:53pm On Nov 09, 2014
OtunbaJega:
Crap...next!!!.
U are a clowwn and a gullible fellow. Why dont u bring out facts to counter his assertions?

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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aresa: 6:57pm On Nov 09, 2014
UchihaMadara:


Nah dude, I'm not talking about the bridge, I am talking about the lekki express toll.

I actually like the fact that the new toll bridge is always lit and I would score that 100% by all standards.



UchihaMadara:
@aresa, don't you think that sterling example you posted of a constantly lit toll bridge should be replicated on the lekki-ajah toll road?
These are just questions everyday citizens ask.


I'm guessing it's included in the new Peninsula Power project public lighting project, but you might want to forward your complaints to the state Electricity Board..

http://www.lseb.gov.ng/content/report-missingbroken-street-light


^^^^^

Enter your concern and report here...
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Tonylyte(m): 7:02pm On Nov 09, 2014
davitogreat:
I have always seen fashola's government as a bit overrated and elitist. The fact that he is being touted as the best leader Nigeria has to offer really shows you that Nigeria still has major mountains to climb. Hopefully the next governor of lagos whether (APC or PDP) governs the state better than fashola.

sidenote: One underrated governor in my opinion is Liyel Imoke. The work he has been doing in cross river state with the limited resources and the debt he inherited from his predecessor has been encouraging. I am especially impressed with the rural road and water projects, smart city initiative and the land reform project of his administration.
U are very intelligent person. This is one thing people dont knw about imoke's govt. The distance from ogoja(yala) to calabar the state capital is about 5hrs, but the dude never neglected them(ogoja) from his govt. He is not from ogoja, neither is any of his parents related there, but the dude work there(ogoja) as if it his home town. One would think since the distance from the state capital to those areas is far, development would hardly get there, but it is not like that with liyel. He is the only leader after gej, that i have seen that is not bias or tribalistic. I have never blamed liyel for ones, he doesnt even have enough fund, yet he has not done bad....

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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aresa: 7:08pm On Nov 09, 2014
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poiZon:








first who said lagos state has 20million people?
ok lets assumed thr r 20million persons n 40 percent pay tax to the state, that s huge money bros, hw u c am compare to 3million persons n assuming 40percent or less pay taxes, that is tip of ice berg compare to lagos revenue.


do u knw d meaning of propaganda, that is what fashola is doing..
akwaibom allocation is 100billion naira more than lagos state, lagos state internally generated revenue is 600 billion times bigger than akwaibom state, yet akwaibom state budget is bigger than lagos state, where are thr dumping the monies bros? diaris god oooooo
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I don't have time for senseless and illogical argument.

Budgets is what states work with at the end of the day regardless of your IGR and allocations and it determines what they can do and can not do in terms of infrastructure and service delivery.

Akwa Ibom has more budget money than Lagos state. Yes or No. Answer is YES.

How many major projects did Akwa Ibom finished with the largest budget in Nigeria? A few roads and 1 stadium. FACT or prove me wrong if you can, but I know you can not and wont even try...

Please don't quote me again if you can not use your brain, be logical and articulate with facts..
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by chamboy(m): 7:11pm On Nov 09, 2014
Ders One major Thing I give Kudos to Fashola..... for Making a Benchmark for Transformation.

.trust me if Fashola went in d way of former governors of Nigeria "being stagnant" der wouldn't b form of development by new governors
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aresa: 7:11pm On Nov 09, 2014
Ajibel:
Many times, people quote Lagos having over #20Billion in revenue and I wonder if such folks know the cost of governance or how a government is being run.
They sound as if BRF should just take a large chunk of the money and turn Lagos into a giant construction site. All bad roads cant be built at the same time. BRF isnt a saint, no doubt, but he is the best amongst all. He has his shortcomings that I greatly fault buh if he's to go for 3rd term, Imma vote for him...


It's ignorance, bigotry and silly politics..


20 x 12 is 240. This is less than half of the yearly budget while IGR or no IGR, Akwa Ibom cleans out up front with allocations alone so Like I said, it's ignorance, bigotry and silly politics...
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aljharem(m): 7:13pm On Nov 09, 2014
aresa:
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I don't have time for senseless and illogical argument.
Budgets is what states work with at the end of the day regardless of your IGR and allocations and it determines what they can do and can not do in terms of infrastructure and service delivery.
Akwa Ibom has more budget money than Lagos state. Yes or No. Answer is YES.
How many major projects did Akwa Ibom finished with the largest budget in Nigeria? A few roads and 1 stadium. FACT or prove me wrong if you can, but I know you can not and wont even try...
Please don't quote me again if you can not use your brain, be logical and articulate with facts..

You are sooo dull you can even differentiate what the topic is about and what you are discussing.

The allocation akwa ibom is due to the fact that it is oil producing and the extra funds are used for community welfare of those oil producing areas. It is called compensation.

You are too emotional and full of lies and propaganda .

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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aljharem(m): 7:15pm On Nov 09, 2014
Ajibel:
Many times, people quote Lagos having over #20Billion in revenue and I wonder if such folks know the cost of governance or how a government is being run.
They sound as if BRF should just take a large chunk of the money and turn Lagos into a giant construction site. All bad roads cant be built at the same time. BRF isnt a saint, no doubt, but he is the best amongst all. He has his shortcomings that I greatly fault buh if he's to go for 3rd term, Imma vote for him...

What's the cost of governance ?

You are Too many re. Tarded

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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aresa: 7:17pm On Nov 09, 2014
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aljharem:


You are sooo dull you can even differentiate what the topic is about and what you are discussing.

The allocation akwa ibom is due to the fact that it is oil producing and the extra funds are used for community welfare of those oil producing areas. It is called compensation.

You are too emotional and full of lies and propaganda .

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Regardless of the ignorant and idiotic reason you claimed they get the money for, please tell us what it is for? Is it not to develop the state and deliver on behalf of the people?

Or is it just for a few roads in uyo and 1 football pitch?

Please STFU and keep your ignorant and unintelligent nonsense to yourself and your kind...
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aljharem(m): 7:17pm On Nov 09, 2014
aresa:



It's ignorance, bigotry and silly politics..


20 x 12 is 240. This is less than half of the yearly budget while IGR or no IGR, Akwa Ibom cleans out up front with allocations alone so Like I said, it's ignorance, bigotry and silly politics...

Shut up jare how much is the cost of governance

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Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by Ajibel(m): 7:18pm On Nov 09, 2014
aresa:



It's ignorance, bigotry and silly politics..


20 x 12 is 240. This is less than half of the yearly budget while IGR or no IGR, Akwa Ibom cleans out up front with allocations alone so Like I said, it's ignorance, bigotry and silly politics...


But it bothers a lot that such mis-information are being spread and people who you expect are educated enough to see thro' the falsehood buy into it.

The writer brought in Dubai into the mix. I'd have loved if he went further to tell us the budget, population and land mass of Dubai when their development started. Lagos is too congested and populated to be transformed in 8 years!!!
Re: Seven Years Of Fashola: My Take Away (1) by aljharem(m): 7:20pm On Nov 09, 2014
Arreessa and co are dull a.rds. 20 billion a month is the cost of governance .

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