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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:07pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
NighttWalker: It's an Aljazeera video. So, if you're in Nigeria or Africa, tune in at the top of the hour. That's how much I can help, I do not spread or support the spread of terrorist videos. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:13pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
agaugust: We are the only country in Africa that has a battle school where we experience and test weapons live. So our artillery battery does not need any experience at all. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:13pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
agaugust: Those numbers are straight up fraudulent Makopa can be fired at any distance up to 10km, the Army Cheif did not complain about the Makopa's use for us - he was referring to other underdeveloped countries Artillery generally fights at long range FH-77B has a maximum range of only 30,000 m when using advanced HEER Ammunition - which you do not have. Your actual maximum range with standard ammunition is 24km G5 and G6 have maximum ranged in excess of 55km Nigerian Army cannot encirlce a high-mobility army like the SANDF. They cannot even encircle towns held by Boko Haram. You do not need battle-experience to know how to fire your artillery peice - just training (nigeria has very little) 7 Killer blows to your entire post. NEXT! 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:21pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
mzilakazi:yeah, no longer a death sentence in normal civil situations. Not in a war arena where funds are being stretched to meet normal supplies and you have to cope with purchasing and supplying antiretroviral drugs and other stuffs. Believe me, a HIV ridden battalion is a morally and physically beaten army already. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:21pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
SA is the only country among ten nations in the world which has battle academy. Our forces do not need the so called experience since they are pre-programmed about what to do in a war zone. They are being trained about different tactics, offensive and defensive formations, planning and strategising, etc. We do everything practically and not abstractly like many militaries. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 12:23pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 12:28pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
BlackBaron:Yeah thank you very much wonderful post, they got a great design for free and yeah the copy won't be as good as the original. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:28pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz: That is not a problem at all. It does not say the whole of SANDF troops are positive and ARVs in the force are plenty enough and does not put strain on supply. Not even quota of members are HIV positive. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:32pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Patchesagain:sa army couldn't encircled rhino porchers , is it a terrorist group relatively unknown to africa and which the west are still studying that you would encircle ? Your conventional warfare history is written in controversies, please do not comment where you do not have prior experience or precedence. Globally southafrican army is not even rated 2nd on the continent. Go figure. Then come back with your tail behind your legs and you'll receive a pat on the head. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:36pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
agaugust: Nigeria has 130 000 army+air force+navy. You have 80 000 army personnel. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:40pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
mzilakazi:your defence ministry pointed it out as a problem. And antiretroviral drugs just don't cut it, living conditions, rest and little physical exertion is also required. It's a problem in any army. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:40pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz: Rhino poaching is not a security threat. The government had already established a strong force which will deal with poaching and is called anti-poaching squad without having to involve military. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NighttWalker(m): 12:41pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Henry120:I'm not in Africa neither I'm I in the Middle East, just love seeing stuff blow up don't really mind if its terrorism or anti-terrorism (love anti-terror most ie coalition airstrikes in Iraq and war in Syria) and I've seen the video thanks to multiple answers on Google 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:41pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:42pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
mzilakazi:your defence ministry pointed it out as a problem. And antiretroviral drugs just don't cut it, living conditions, rest and little physical exertion is also required. It's a problem in any army. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:42pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz: Nigerian military also has HIV positive soldiers. so, what? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:45pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
mzilakazi:sa had involved the military in dealing with rhino poaching in the past. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:49pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
mzilakazi:very insignificant and inconsequential number that won't raise a fleck of dust in the capability of the Nigerian army, which a sharp contrast to the numbers and prevalence in Southafrica army. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:51pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz: That's why poaching had decreased, but we are not animal rangers, we are soldiers. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:53pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz: Same as SA, HIV is no longer a problem in our land and instead it has changed its drive to Nigeria where it is ravaging the people. However, Nigeria does not have the official stats of HIV in their force as well as that of the public. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 1:03pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
mzilakazi: Are you quoting statistics? If your defence ministry would make an official report about the HIV prevalence rate in your army, then it is an issue also in your society. Nigeria's HIV rate is well documented with figures which shows a yearly decline consistently. That's why sa leads by ratio of percentage. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:06pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz: With regards to poaching, that is law enforcement and is not the concern of the military With regards to military history, unlike Nigeria, South Africa has fought real wars. And unlike Nigeria, South Africa has yet to lose a single battle. Unlike Nigeria, our COIN ops against PLAN were highly successful. With regards to African rankings, Nigeria is well behind South Africa. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:07pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz: Someone doesnt know how ARV's work Someone doesnt know SANDF policy with regards to HIV+ personnel 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:08pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz: In support, as SAPS and SANParks lacked adequate helicopter and Recon assets. The SANDF also had overlapping objectives in certain parts of Kruger parks with regards to border control. For the SANDF it was a secondary tasking 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 1:15pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Patchesagain:I shouldn't, no personal experience by God's grace. But it's a fact your DM didn't bother to hide and no personal opinion of patriotism or ego pushes that away. Fact's fact, wishes,wishes. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:17pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz: The UN has also noted that Nigeria's stats of HIV are unreliable. Nigeria's figures only apply to South Nigeria. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 1:26pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Patchesagain:what wars did southy fought. Spare us the rough road trips of going back to multi national campaigns and the cuban dabacle. If, your assertions are even half truths,Egypt and Ethiopia won't be rated above your army. Southafrica was good on paper, during the apartheid regimes of pik botha and co, when she feared her neighbours and worried about a revolution and black unrest spurning from within or without. As soon as that was sorted, her infrastructure decayed and her personel which was previously made of white army became mixed with coloured folks who were rebels and ragtag. This further deteriorated the army and promoted gross indesciplined and lack of professionalism. With a population of 55million and a considerable size of HIV prevalence (stats are from your DM) southafrica lack fighting soldiers and infrastructure. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by sirjerry(m): 1:43pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz:South africa has never fought any war by itself in history. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 1:51pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz: Normally I ignore your posts coz you're a factless troll BUT I just need to get this in order. - Nigeria has NO capacity to fight any enemy in any shape, BOKO Haram has and keeps demonstrating it a countless times. - Nigeria has NO capacity to fight any enemy of any shape, MEND demonstrated this in the Niger Delta. You had to negotiate them out The SANDF regular checks the health of its personnel, NO new recruit is taken in if they failed health tests including HIV tests.You keeep encircling the HIV non-factor as if its a factor.. While you are continually battling Boko Haram in Nigeria, South Africa has; - Slayed the infamous M23 out of existance - We have taken out the Mai-Mai to insignificance together with other related armed militia of the eastern Congo 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:07pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
mzilakazi: [size=14pt] Good to see you a South African soldier admit that your current military has ZERO war experience today 2014 and all you have is school training for testing weapons against stones, wood, trees and sand with NO SINGLE ENEMY to fire back at your SANDF. ![]() ![]() ![]() Nigerian army and air force has current large scale war experience 2014, best and latest in Africa [/size] .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 2:11pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz: We feared which neighbor? Why do you think the closest MK (ANC) base was in Tanzania and Zambia? Because the SA military could strike any of the neighboring states at any time. - Mozambique was bridged into a countless times and the SADF would go in and out as they pleased... Samora Machel was summoned by Botha to get rid of the ANC and he obliged. - Robert Mugabe feared Botha, he never confronted him despite the fact that he fought in Rhodesian Bush War - We operated in Angola unregulated for 25 years, Cuba and the Angolans couldnt break our defense lines....SADF killed almost 10 000 Cubans and in a real conventional war, the biggest one after WWII. Now compare how many lives were lost between these two countries, South Africa in the Angolan Bush War then Nigeria in the Baifra War 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 2:13pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
sirjerry: Proof please |
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