NighttWalker:
Where can I watch video, I've searched on Google and YouTube but didn't see it, I lovee seeing videos of real life combat scene of stuffs blowing up

agaugust:


Stop all this rubbish of saying someone is lying and give this forum a little decency, try face an intelligent debate.

Nigerian army artillery guns are well over 700 units, check SIPRI, Wikipedia, Beegeagle and Defenceweb, count all the different artillery types and numbers then add them all up, D-30, OTO Melara and M-56 Yugo alone are 600 artillery guns in Nigeria without counting Bofors and Palmaria, then the M46, D-20 and D-74 artillery too.


Now to the real life battlefield.....

What gives you impression that armies at war are always over 20km apart and away from each other?

How do tanks and infantry fight at that range?

Even your SAAF chief complains that at too long a range like Mokopa 10km, an army will lose accuracy of fire.

Wars are not fought and won 20km distance away, armies have to close-in and engage.

50,000 SANDF will face 150,000 Nigerian army that will completely encircle you like a round ring of fire and crush SANDF into the centre.

Anyway, Nigerian Bofors FH-77B artillery has range 41km, superior to SANDF G-6 artillery range of 39km


Bofors 73

Palmaria 50

M-56 Yugo 200

D-30 and M-series 200

Oto Melara about 150

M-46, D-20, etc over 20

Over 660 units.

Current SANDF artillery corps have ZERO war experience in the last 20 years, Nigerian artillery has constant and regular war experience since 20 years ago up till today as we speak

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agaugust:


Stop all this rubbish of saying someone is lying and give this forum a little decency, try face an intelligent debate.

Nigerian army artillery guns are well over 700 units, check SIPRI, Wikipedia, Beegeagle and Defenceweb, count all the different artillery types and numbers then add them all up, D-30, OTO Melara and M-56 Yugo alone are 600 artillery guns in Nigeria without counting Bofors and Palmaria, then the M46, D-20 and D-74 artillery too.


Now to the real life battlefield.....

What gives you impression that armies at war are always over 20km apart and away from each other?

How do tanks and infantry fight at that range?

Even your SAAF chief complains that at too long a range like Mokopa 10km, an army will lose accuracy of fire.

Wars are not fought and won 20km distance away, armies have to close-in and engage.

50,000 SANDF will face 150,000 Nigerian army that will completely encircle you like a round ring of fire and crush SANDF into the centre.

Anyway, Nigerian Bofors FH-77B artillery has range 41km, superior to SANDF G-6 artillery range of 39km


Bofors 73

Palmaria 50

M-56 Yugo 200

D-30 and M-series 200

Oto Melara about 150

M-46, D-20, etc over 20

Over 660 units.

Current SANDF artillery corps have ZERO war experience in the last 20 years, Nigerian artillery has constant and regular war experience since 20 years ago up till today as we speak

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mzilakazi:



HIV in SA is no longer a death sentence, they all lead a healthy lifestyle.

Henry120:


So you have proof the chinese didn't steal specs from the other points where they are stored?

#the chinese are alleged to have also hacked into lockheed martin, Boeing and other top U.S aerospace and defence companies.


You cannot claim an Aircraft that is designed using "all" the specs of the F-35 is sh1t.

No, you do not know what a blueprint is.

If the J-31 is shiit, the F-35 is also shiit.

This is the fact.

BlackBaron:
The Chinese may have copied shapes and stolen 'blueprints' but most forget you also need to have an ability to craft your own super alloys, improve engine thrust, efficiency, torque and so much more. This is the reason why the F35 costs is spiralling out of control.

The Chinese quite alright have managed to piggyback on a successful design (which came after $billion trial and error by the Americans) but their aircraft would always play second fiddle to any design they steal.

lezz:
yeah, no longer a death sentence in normal civil situations. Not in a war arena where funds are being stretched to meet normal supplies and you have to cope with purchasing and supplying antiretroviral drugs and other stuffs.
Believe me, a HIV ridden battalion is a morally and physically beaten army already.

Patchesagain:


Those numbers are straight up fraudulent

Makopa can be fired at any distance up to 10km, the Army Cheif did not complain about the Makopa's use for us - he was referring to other underdeveloped countries

Artillery generally fights at long range

FH-77B has a maximum range of only 30,000 m when using advanced HEER Ammunition - which you do not have. Your actual maximum range with standard ammunition is 24km

G5 and G6 have maximum ranged in excess of 55km

Nigerian Army cannot encirlce a high-mobility army like the SANDF. They cannot even encircle towns held by Boko Haram.

You do not need battle-experience to know how to fire your artillery peice - just training (nigeria has very little)

7 Killer blows to your entire post.

NEXT!

agaugust:


Stop all this rubbish of saying someone is lying and give this forum a little decency, try face an intelligent debate.

Nigerian army artillery guns are well over 700 units, check SIPRI, Wikipedia, Beegeagle and Defenceweb, count all the different artillery types and numbers then add them all up, D-30, OTO Melara and M-56 Yugo alone are 600 artillery guns in Nigeria without counting Bofors and Palmaria, then the M46, D-20 and D-74 artillery too.


Now to the real life battlefield.....

What gives you impression that armies at war are always over 20km apart and away from each other?

How do tanks and infantry fight at that range?

Even your SAAF chief complains that at too long a range like Mokopa 10km, an army will lose accuracy of fire.

Wars are not fought and won 20km distance away, armies have to close-in and engage.

50,000 SANDF will face 150,000 Nigerian army that will completely encircle you like a round ring of fire and crush SANDF into the centre.

Anyway, Nigerian Bofors FH-77B artillery has range 41km, superior to SANDF G-6 artillery range of 39km


Bofors 73

Palmaria 50

M-56 Yugo 200

D-30 and M-series 200

Oto Melara about 150

M-46, D-20, etc over 20

Over 660 units.

Current SANDF artillery corps have ZERO war experience in the last 20 years, Nigerian artillery has constant and regular war experience since 20 years ago up till today as we speak

.

mzilakazi:




That is not a problem at all. It does not say the whole of SANDF troops are positive and ARVs in the force are plenty enough and does not put strain on supply.


Not even quota of members are HIV positive.

lezz:
sa army couldn't encircled rhino porchers , is it a terrorist group relatively unknown to africa and which the west are still studying that you would encircle ?
Your conventional warfare history is written in controversies, please do not comment where you do not have prior experience or precedence.

Globally southafrican army is not even rated 2nd on the continent. Go figure.
Then come back with your tail behind your legs and you'll receive a pat on the head.

Henry120:


It's an Aljazeera video. So, if you're in Nigeria or Africa, tune in at the top of the hour. That's how much I can help, I do not spread or support the spread of terrorist videos.

mzilakazi:




That is not a problem at all. It does not say the whole of SANDF troops are positive and ARVs in the force are plenty enough and does not put strain on supply.


Not even quota of members are HIV positive.

mzilakazi:




That is not a problem at all. It does not say the whole of SANDF troops are positive and ARVs in the force are plenty enough and does not put strain on supply.


Not even quota of members are HIV positive.

lezz:
your defence ministry pointed it out as a problem. And antiretroviral drugs just don't cut it, living conditions, rest and little physical exertion is also required.

It's a problem in any army.

mzilakazi:



Rhino poaching is not a security threat. The government had already established a strong force which will deal with poaching and is called anti-poaching squad without having to involve military.

mzilakazi:



Nigerian military also has HIV positive soldiers. so, what?

lezz:
sa had involved the military in dealing with rhino poaching in the past.

lezz:
very insignificant and inconsequential number that won't raise a fleck of dust in the capability of the Nigerian army, which a sharp contrast to the numbers and prevalence in Southafrica army.

mzilakazi:



Same as SA, HIV is no longer a problem in our land and instead it has changed its drive to Nigeria where it is ravaging the people.

However, Nigeria does not have the official stats of HIV in their force as well as that of the public.

lezz:
sa army couldn't encircled rhino porchers , is it a terrorist group relatively unknown to africa and which the west are still studying that you would encircle ?
Your conventional warfare history is written in controversies, please do not comment where you do not have prior experience or precedence.

Globally southafrican army is not even rated 2nd on the continent. Go figure.
Then come back with your tail behind your legs and you'll receive a pat on the head.

lezz:
your defence ministry pointed it out as a problem. And antiretroviral drugs just don't cut it, living conditions, rest and little physical exertion is also required.

It's a problem in any army.

lezz:
sa had involved the military in dealing with rhino poaching in the past.

Patchesagain:


Someone doesnt know how ARV's work

Someone doesnt know SANDF policy with regards to HIV+ personnel

lezz:


Are you quoting statistics? If your defence ministry would make an official report about the HIV prevalence rate in your army, then it is an issue also in your society.

Nigeria's HIV rate is well documented with figures which shows a yearly decline consistently.
That's why sa leads by ratio of percentage.

Patchesagain:


With regards to poaching, that is law enforcement and is not the concern of the military

With regards to military history, unlike Nigeria, South Africa has fought real wars. And unlike Nigeria, South Africa has yet to lose a single battle. Unlike Nigeria, our COIN ops against PLAN were highly successful.

With regards to African rankings, Nigeria is well behind South Africa.

lezz:
what wars did southy fought. Spare us the rough road trips of going back to multi national campaigns and the cuban dabacle.

If, your assertions are even half truths,Egypt and Ethiopia won't be rated above your army.

Southafrica was good on paper, during the apartheid regimes of pik botha and co, when she feared her neighbours and worried about a revolution and black unrest spurning from within or without.

As soon as that was sorted, her infrastructure decayed and her personel which was previously made of white army became mixed with coloured folks who were rebels and ragtag. This further deteriorated the army and promoted gross indesciplined and lack of professionalism.



With a population of 55million and a considerable size of HIV prevalence (stats are from your DM) southafrica lack fighting soldiers and infrastructure.

lezz:
very insignificant and inconsequential number that won't raise a fleck of dust in[b] the capability of the Nigerian army[/b], which a sharp contrast to the numbers and prevalence in Southafrica army.

mzilakazi:


We are the only country in Africa that has a battle school where we experience and test weapons live.

So our artillery battery does not need any experience at all.

lezz:
what wars did southy fought. Spare us the rough road trips of going back to multi national campaigns and the cuban dabacle.

If, your assertions are even half truths,Egypt and Ethiopia won't be rated above your army.

Southafrica was good on paper, during the apartheid regimes of pik botha and co, when she feared her neighbours and worried about a revolution and black unrest spurning from within or without.

As soon as that was sorted, her infrastructure decayed and her personel which was previously made of white army became mixed with coloured folks who were rebels and ragtag. This further deteriorated the army and promoted gross indesciplined and lack of professionalism.



With a population of 55million and a considerable size of HIV prevalence (stats are from your DM) southafrica lack fighting soldiers and infrastructure.

sirjerry:
South africa has never fought any war by itself in history.