agaugust:


I didnt care about exact numbers, because its an old old argument I have posted before, there are many different sources and I dont care to waste my time on it after 2 years os repeating the same old story. UNITA had FNLA joined together with them, UNITA was not alone, I just didnt care to list names of all those in the war. I dont have time for trivial issues and repeating old stories like a stammerer.


All I proved is SANDF 4,000 men did not fight 150,000 MPLA and Cubans, or else the Cubans would have reached Cape Town in 7 days

You posted a big and unrealistic lie and I crushed it with one blow, now you are butt hurt.
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agaugust:



#Show me photo of Indian Bofors artillery gun on Himalayas mountain TOP

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Patchesagain:


Feel free to debunk them.

Patchesagain:


Feel free to debunk them.

agaugust:


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Lies ! Lies !! Lies !!!

No where in modern war has 4,000 men fought against 150,000 men and survived in heavy ratio 1:35

300 SANDF ran away from 1,500 Seleka rebels in C.A.R. in only ratio 1:5

Angolan bush war was 4,000 SADF frontline, 18,000 SADF rear-guard near home lines, and 120,000 UNITA army frontline beside the 4,000 SADF, shows that the war was actually the work of 120,000 UNITA rebels of Angola, SADF was NOT able to fight the war alone.

South African army NEVER fights war alone, always needs help from another better army

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mzilakazi:



We were 200 against approximately 3000 rebels. This is first hand information and not from newspapers. We defeated Selena on their own turf without taking to our heels like what your soldiers do.

Patchesagain:




Yes, because we did a complete overhaul of our submarine by ourselves - you cannot even overhaul the aradu

Because that is what we planned with the vessels, if you knew anything about naval vessels you would know the 1/3 rule of thumb (for every one at sea, two are in maintenance). We have one operational, one being "run up" or used for training, one undergoing maintenance and one undergoing re-fit. And every year, all 4 put to sea for the fleet reveiw - how do we sail ships without crew?

The fact that nigeria has ZERO operational frigates is what is pathetic.

14 Gripen fully operational, means a minimum of 18 Pilots. Air-force budgeted for 20 000 hours of fly time. 18 000 used. Meaning we have a fuel excess.

Augusta squadrons are fully operational. They were briefly grounded pending the outcome of a crash investigation (standard procedure). The man who said they were mothballed sayed they were mothballed in a Cape Town hanger, yet the squadron that operates them is in Pretoria (pic related -"mothballed" Augusta)

We didnt deploy soldiers, MRAP's or Navy seals. I have no idea where you get this nonsense from.

Yet again, you can stick to your imaginary machinations all you want.

But facts are facts. And factually speaking, you are wrong.

PS: you are the one who allways demands pictures, so here you go, Augusta operational, all 4 frigates at sea.

lezz:
world war 1 started in July 1914 to November 1918.
Nigeria was Amalgamated in 1914 when the southern and northern provinces where merged and Nigeria as we know it today was born.

World war 2 began began in 1939 to 45.

This is the most tactless troll of them all. A new hallmark for posting without a residue of facts.

agaugust:


SANDF mechanized division is a conventional, uniformed, identifiable army that can be easily targeted.

It would be time to test our world respected 660 gun massive artillery fire-power on your heads without restraint, free for all fight !

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Henry120:


You were "300" against 4 billion, not only 3000.

"This is sparta".

Good thing only you south-africans believe your own lies.

agaugust:



[size=14pt] Good to see you a South African soldier admit that your current military has ZERO war experience today 2014 and all you have is school training for testing weapons against stones, wood, trees and sand with NO SINGLE ENEMY to fire back at your SANDF.



Nigerian army and air force has current large scale war experience 2014, best and latest in Africa [/size]

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MikeCZAR:
There no nation called Nigeria during then.

You were British colony.

Do you know when your country gained independence?

Patchesagain:


I dont have to.

I have allready shown you one at high altitude.

Henry120:


You were "300" against 4 billion, not only 3000.

"This is sparta".

Good thing only you south-africans believe your own lies.

Patchesagain:


Now you post like a child?

First you say 120 000, and i point out that is completely wrong

Then you say "no no, I meant UNITA and FNLA"

I point out the number is still no where near 120 000

And now another killer blow: According to the same wiki page you posted, FNLA numbers in 1976 were only 7000

So, 60 000 + 7 000 = 67 000

So, you are still well short of your supposed 120 000

Now you say "hurr durr its impossible"

Well, its not. Fact of the matter is that 20 000 (averaging only 4000 year on year) SANDF personnel stopped 150 000 Cubans and MPLA dead for 25 years in a row. We never lost a single battle. No Cuban or MPLA ever stepped foot on Namibian territory.

This is a historical fact.

Deal with it.

Patchesagain:


4 000 men faced 150 000 men in Angola.... and yet the 4 000 came of tops year after year

Centrifude:
I was watching Aljazeera this afternoon, and they were talking about the situation in Nigeria, they interviewed some of the Villagers where the soldiers ran aways, and the girl they interviewed there said that when the N.A soldiers came they would act all confident and fearless while guarding the Check Points, but when they heard the sound of gunfire, they just ran to their trucks and left without even checking what was going on, they left Civilians to be slaughtered.

I didn't take any of those "Run away Soldiers" stories when the S.A guys mention them on this Thread, until I watched Aljazeera and they showed the actual Village, the wasn't even a single Soldier stationed there to protect the people even though there had been an attack on the Village.

This is beyond disappointing

agaugust:



[size=14pt] Good to see you a South African soldier admit that your current military has ZERO war experience today 2014 and all you have is school training for testing weapons against stones, wood, trees and sand with NO SINGLE ENEMY to fire back at your SANDF.



Nigerian army and air force has current large scale war experience 2014, best and latest in Africa [/size]

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mzilakazi:


Firing at those woods, stones, etc is very important and always pays off. The superpowers do it most of the time.
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mzilakazi:


I was among 200 strong force which defeated approximately 3000 Seleka rebels in Bangui. I travelled many places in CAR, viz, Bangassou, Bambari, Bria and many villages around Bangui enforcing security for our instructors. The most memorable spot was along the banks of Ubangi river where our sappers used to fetch water for purification and around the vicinity of university of Bangui. Not to forget the screams from the locals greeting us in sango languages with great jubilance on our way to M'poko international. The warm greeting of the sango people screaming "Balao or Bonjour" is all that is engraved on my mind to date. However, I miss my comrades who fell in CAR.

agaugust:


Super powers fight real wars, Afghanistan, Iraq, Falklands, Bosnia etc.

All standard armies of this world fire at wood during training, even Togo Republic does it, so what's special if SANDF fires at wood in training, are you trying to impress the army of Lesotho ?

Nigeria fights real wars after real training at defence academy, and periodic exercises and shooting range competitions

SANDF is forever sleeping at home with wives and prostitutes that refresh their HIV viral load
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saengine:


The truth comes out.

agaugust:


Super powers fight real wars, Afghanistan, Iraq, Falklands, Bosnia etc.

All standard armies of this world fire at wood during training, even Togo Republic does it, so what's special if SANDF fires at wood in training, are you trying to impress the army of Lesotho ?

Nigeria fights real wars after real training at defence academy, and periodic exercises and shooting range competitions

SANDF is forever sleeping at home with wives and prostitutes that refresh their HIV viral load
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agaugust:


You say that you don't have to show me, and then you say you already showed me...Contradiction.

You did NOT show us any Indian Bofors artillery on top of Himalayas mountain that has slippery slope with snow....LAIR

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agaugust:



.....And the same Wiki source puts the South African army at 20,000 while you cut it down to 4,000

Same source puts MPLA and Cuba at 130,000 while you pushed it up to 150,000.

Then you now said 4,000 SADF defeated 150,000 MPLA and Cubans, you wiped out ALL UNITA and FLNA, then you say I am lying ?

You are the liar.....4,000 Vs 150,000

Deal with it below !

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agaugust:


Super powers fight real wars, Afghanistan, Iraq, Falklands, Bosnia etc.

All standard armies of this world fire at wood during training, even Togo Republic does it, so what's special if SANDF fires at wood in training, are you trying to impress the army of Lesotho ?

Nigeria fights real wars after real training at defence academy, and periodic exercises and shooting range competitions

SANDF is forever sleeping at home with wives and prostitutes that refresh their HIV viral load
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agaugust:



You are more like a comedian by profession, your story looks like those used by Boy Alinco trying to impress Miss Pepeye
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Patchesagain:


Why is a slippery slope with snow relevant?

Here you go again, Bofors in the Himalaya's at over 6000 meters above sea level... the top of mount kilimanjaro is only 5,800m

agaugust:


Your Bofors photo shows the artillery on flat ground level with grass on it, NOT on a mountain top

How will artillery climb up a steep mountain slope in Himalayas, see snow all over the mountain, slippery snow

Fool of Soweto
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Henry120:


We have carried out multiple over-hauls on NNS Aradu on many occasions in-country.

Nothing new.

“According to the Review the SANDF is in a critical state of decline, is unsustainable and prime mission equipment, especially in the landward force, faces block obsolescence. “Ammunition stocks are depleted, infrastructure is falling apart, skilled staff is leaving and the arms of the various services operate in silos and are unable to manage basic procurement, which is centralised and run by the deputy director-general in the Defence Secretariat.”


Nope unlike your brainless generals who have decided to chase pirates with subs, Nigeria doesn't buy, what Nigeria doesn't need.

2 long endurance ships from the U.S
2 corvettes/OPV's from china
2 additional ships from turkey and china
6 65 meters IPV's from the netherlands
Additional 2 Helicopters from china.

This is how you make procurements, based on the Nations needs, on a need to buy, not on a need to buy 26 jets with only 8 pilots to fly.

Posting photos of 4 Augusta LUH of 30 proves absolutely nothing.

Most of the SAAF’s 30-strong light helicopter fleet is grounded because of the “almost total lack of flying-hour allocation”, according to the Defenceweb site. Defenceweb writes that this “precarious financial and personnel situation” also led to the humiliation of the SAAF managing to keep its specialist maritime helicopters aloft for fewer than a dozen hours,".

Again, coming here to post flight hours of your presidential fleet, which is part of the SAAF is absolute balderdash.

You didn't deploy soldiers for anti-poaching ops.......
http://jacarandafm.com/post/the-sandf-and-rhino-poaching/
So, who are these guys, Opera singers?